Pakistan shaken by fresh attacks Gunmen have attacked law enforcement buildings in Pakistan, with at least 18 people reported killed in Lahore and eight in a suicide bombing elsewhere.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8308166.stm
At what time the Govt. of Pakistan is going to deal with these Shitan molvies running around freely all over the country killing people at will. How many innocent people have to die before this meance is taken on seriously and this virus is eradicated.
gv
Member
@lota
i don't think arresting all the maulvies in pakistan is the answer.
how do you prevent such attacks from taking place? its not easy...
if you picked up a gun and 'barged in to' your local police station i'm pretty sure that you'd do some damage before they took you out. In a society where weapons and ammunition are easily available its next to impossible to monitor and prevent every single attack in a country of 170m people
shriq
Member
Terrorism does not have anything to do with religion and maulvis. Its strings are not being pulled here. The puppet master is somewhere else.
Dont get befooled by the claims of being muslim of the terrorists. The beard does not mean Muslim.
gv
Member
@shriq
i thinks its about time we took collective responsibility for our actions.
Fact 1: The terrorists are home grown
Fact 2: They believe (maybe wrongly) that they are doing this for the greater good of the muslim ummah
Fact 3: the terrorists have support because the state of pakistan has failed to provide good governance to its people
Possibility 1: Yes they may be recieving financing from external (international) parties Although i believe it is more likely extremist groups as opposed to any state actors
So lets 'jhanko' inside our own 'ghareban' before we start screaming and yelling about zionist/catholic/hindu/aetheist/cubist/disneyist conspiracies.
gv
Everyone knows who these shitan killer molvies are. These terrorist have been arrested in GHQ and the law enforcement needs to catch them before they strike. They have a support network that needs to be taken down.
70 Murders, Yet Close to Going Free in Pakistan http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/world/asia/06justice.html?fta=y
More of this needs to be done
shriq
Member
@gv,
Have you heard the story of the wolf and lamb?
This is the present day story of the wolf and lamb in which Islam is being blamed for all this trouble and the wolf US and allies are getting their benefit of controlling important resources one by one. US is sitting in all the sources of power. Arabs are already in its pocket. Every Arab state has their military base. The others which are not helping them are helping terrorism and hence this gives US an excuse to attack these places and control these areas.
fight against terror has got us nothing but to go deeper in the problem. now
We are the Victims.
just because our political leaders never played their cards well ..if they were catch in a situation,where they have to support USA on war on terror ...they would have play their cards tactfully ....they should have used their role and ideal geography as a tool to bargain ...but they never did that and rather adapted a slave role and apologetic behavior all through the war ...
civilian Govt has following the foot steps of a loser general ...so is going to lose any way ...
as rules of the game are already has been decided ...
we have to lose at the end.
its given.
shahzad1924
member
deja vu!
the american intelligence agencies in Pakistan have once again became active to create public opinion in favor of an operation in south waziristan.
this drive is running on the same lines as 3-4 months ago when they carried out attacks and bomb blasts throughout Pakistan to create public opinion in favor of the swat operation. they even picked the same places as before - manawaan police training facility
gv
Member
@shriq
i don't think anybody with any common sense is blaming 'islam' per se.
Intelligent people blame the perpretrators who have manipulated and distorted a religion to their advantage -
This is why secularists argue for separation for church and state because history has proven that religion is easily and frequently hijacked for political advantage usually resulting in violence, bloodshed and social chaos.
gv
Member
@shahzad
this is exactly what i am saying - why can't we as a nation simply suck it up and say 'we have f***d up!' It is nobody's fault but ours but lets see what we can do now to resolve it!
why is that so hard !
Shitan Molvies are on the payroll of America. They fought jihad in Afghanistan with 2 Billion us dollars per year. The guns and the mules that transported them came from Israel. They are working on foreign agenda when they kill innocent Pakistanis.
shriq
Member
@lota6177
"are on the payroll of America" Correct!
@gv
Check it out:
http://jancarlo.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/north-korean-nukes-sb0701d.jpg
Says much about what our enlightened west is all about.
gv
Member
@shriq
i'm not saying that the US et al do not follow their own self interest - what i'm saying is that the onus to improve our lot is on our shoulders and there's not point in blaming our ills on outsiders
Govt should do more than condemning the attacks .
at least can claim india for the Lahore attacks.
gv
Member
@beenai
that's really statesmanlike and mature
shriq
Member
@gv,
Yes that is correct! Onus is on our own shoulders. They have done their part. Now it is our turn to do something. In this effort all of us have to take part, government alone can not do it.
All of us!!!
and what we can do?
onus is still on Govt ...as it was not us ...who has decided to go for the war on terror .
gv
Member
@beenai
1) you can vote
2) you can get involved in social work in alleviating poverty and illiteracy
3) you can donate to social workers involved in alleviating poverty and illiteracy
4) you can write articles in the press highlighting important social issues and discussing solutions for them
5) you can set up a blog (like pk politics) to discuss socio-political issues
6) you can set up a pressure group to voice concerns of the citizenry
7) you can get involved in environmental work (i.e. improving pollution levels etc)
the list is endless
NNL
member
Again come in the children taught by a School Peon blaming everything on Islam and movlis and what they can conjure up with twisted pea sized brains.
Do yall actually think Army is really that dumb enuf to let happen whats been happening ?
Do you not see the bastardized Nationalists imitators screaming for change in the Constitution.
Do you not see a mass level of campaign to change the public opinion to start doubting its own soldiers and their capabilities
DO you not see the end game is to show a weak Pakistan
Do you not see the end game is to remove Pakistan Nukes and its capabilities.
For years our nuclear research hasnt been even given a chance to work on the public sector by so called b-hangis within our govt who act as nationalists.
Did you not hear the newstory that Vicky Mallu's country didnt have a nuke test blast it was more liek a tini winnies far-t after eating masala doosa which they termed as nuke.
They are losing their best people to espionage and our boys are sitting fine.
It did be really dumb to not see the role of Pakistan and its army in the international scene.
Bloody hell have you ever seen US Marines being rescued by someone else. well go to Mogadishu Somalia they will all tell u some bearded men had come in and saved Uncle Sam's roasted buns.
Fools will be us if we follow the same pattern of thinking and logic of the nations who are now in social depravity.
@gv,
for long term and dreamy plans ...there are endless options indeed ...
i m talking about Right Now and practical steps.
one can take on emergency basis to take the motherland out of this crisis.
NNL
member
Oh and didnt LHC just drop all charges against Hafiz Saeed.
so either the adaliya is corrupt and in on it thereby making the lawyer movement a complete farce
Or
they did actually do their jobs and gave the public a big hint.
shriq
Member
@gv,
I agree that these are the things that we can do (general public).
@Beenai,
The urgent steps are the ones that can be taken by (you are right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) government.
But hopeless lot sitting there!
Pakistan is in deep dilemma because of Shitan Molvies and their paid indoctrained delusional symphatizers. The usual conspiracy theorists have been frothing at the mouth with conspiracy theories. The Shitan molvies killing Pakistani civilians and the military were "misguided" and were only doing so because the Americans were in Afghanistan. It all starts with "if the Americans were not in Afghanistan…" to give the impression that these are peace-loving people who are only killing and maiming Pakistani citizens because they are "misguided." "Misguided" adults do not kill innocent people. The shitan molvies have executed four high-impact attacks in the past ten days, which have taken a total of 170 lives. This is not the work of "misguided" people. These are cold-blooded killers who have no hesitation in carrying out what they have been indoctrinated to believe is a "higher cause." Pakistan needs to be cleansed by this Shitan molvie virus if we are to live in peace. The shitan molvie virus is more dangerous than swine flu virus because it kills on impact.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1100738239&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20091014
shahzad1924
member
Operation launched in Waziristan
http://geo.tv/10-15-2009/50988.htm
there you have it. its official!
this whole propaganda of bomb blasts and attacks have come to an end and now the operation has started. well done Americans, you have fooled us once again!
linkwheel
Member
And Now Peshwar. TTP is on fire, Peshwar Blast was Planted in a Car and it was a Remote Controlled Blast so far 1 Casualty (A Kid) and 5 Injured
shehzad1924
It is about time I wonder what took them so long! This is really good news.
shriq
Member
Do they spare anyone, these MUSLIM terrorists!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2009/10/091015_lahore_eyewitness_zs.shtml
Revivalist
member
lota and co,
“This is why secularists argue for separation for church and state because history has proven that religion is easily and frequently hijacked for political advantage usually resulting in violence, bloodshed and social chaos” biggest joke of the century. Cant you see “secular west” led by United Snakes killing an looting millions, is that what you are talking about????
The track record of these security companies like Black water in Iraq is dirty and is known for creating all this mess we see these days in pakistan, hence blaming the so called TTP for this is nothing but utter naivety.
linkwheel
Member
There is no END to this story, Zia started it and only Allah knw's when and how this will End.
shriq
Did you see the pictures of the little girl that was killed in the Peshawar bomb blast? These barbarian animals do not value human life.
REv
The terrorist that have been arrested are all Shitan molvies. If you have any doubts about who they are than pay them a visit and inform us about your findings. All of them have the same physical appearance like you but I think that is just a coincidence. The Osama look is very popular with black water employees.
Revivalist
member
LOTA,
The problem with you is that you have been deceived by Zia ul haq and now by the appearance. Get the truth before it gets you!!!!
"All of them have the same physical appearance like you" Do you know how do i look like???
Let me take a wild guess! Another Osama Bin laden look alike?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed_image_widely_published_in_September_2009_-a.jpg
Tell me I am wrong.
shahzad1924
member
thanks for publishing your picture sheeday. BTW do you perm your beard often?
shahzad1924
yes I spend 50$ a day on butter to keep the perm in. Dharie h o tu Osama jasie hou warna na hou.
Asif
Blocked
This double game of the heads of states of USA, KSA & Pakistan in Afghanistan since 1975 (when bhutto laid the foundation of interference in internal matters of Afghanistan by helping hikmatyar & rabbani in ousting Dauds govt) have resulted in the total destruction of Afghanistan, Iraq & now Pakistan.
The real culprit is Double Game by same characters.
And you people for fun either justifying first half of the game or second half of the game while truth of the matter is that both halves of the game are brutal & cruel.
zjshami
Member
Why some persons like and prefer to deface their beautiful face, Allah gave them?
" Allah is beautiful and appreciates beauty",
but the man in picture looks horrible enough to make young children scary.
Does he represent a true image of a Muslim?
After looking at the picture, it is easy to understand that "Face is the index of mind".
amin1924
member
Don't focus so much on face that you forget the character.
If you want to be beautiful per Allah's definition, then also see what message/guidance Allah swt has on how to keep face. Don't attribute your own definitions to Allah swt without proof.
Thx
shahzad1924
member
Asif, please forgive the non-serious comments. yeh do bhaiyon ka pyar hai. i hope you understand :)
anyway, i am not justifying any "half". all im saying is that this is a propaganda to create public opinion in favor of the south waziristan operation on the same lines as the swat operation.
the presence of CIA/blackwater/marines in Pakistan is a reality and they are not there without any reason. i dont buy the argument that they are here so that the aid money does not fall in the wrong hands. israel receives 3 billion dollars each year and yet none of those agencies have such a big presence there.
so one is compelled to think that there must be a greater reason for them being here. and frankly its easy to connect the dots.
A members wrote:
"Don't attribute your own definitions to Allah swt without proof."
I read this at the face of a Mosque near Lahore Railway Station what zjshami has quoted.
"allah-ul-jameel-o-wa--yohibbal-jamal"
(God (Allah) is beatiful and loves beauty)
Come at a public forum with proper home work, please.
amin1924
member
Sheikh & Co,
Rest assured about home work, tell us your definition and work will be shown :-)
latentry
Member
we need to clean up the whole mess we have created. It will be very cruel unhuman but thats the only way left. Bomb everything in FATA, kill everyone who comes in your way, kill the famililies of terrorist. Bomb whatver comes in your way be more cruel than terrorists teach them such a lesson that there next 1000 generations will not go near terrosisam again. Thats the only solution we have left with now. Kill ever mullah who preach hatred. Ban shia, suni, wahabi , bravli etc every sect in Pakistan. Either you muslim or you shia suni, wahabi, bravli etc crap
NNL
member
Why describe Allah with words that arent chosen by Allah.
Now if i started describing someone with my own usage of adjectives doesnt mean the one i m describing would like them.
Again misguided and ignorance go hand in hand.
Hey maybe there might be a truth to it, it would be a good piece of info if one gets suitable proofs.
Asif
Blocked
latentry
"Kill ever mullah who preach hatred. Ban shia, suni, wahabi , bravli etc every sect in Pakistan."
Traditional madrassah & mullah was preaching something that was not so effective to create that kinna hatered which leads to mass killings.
So the heads of states of US, Saudia & Pakistan took the responsibilty on their own shoulders & launched a stimulus plan. Built thousands of shelters to house hundreds of thousands warriors & named these shelters as madrassahs to legalise them, named these warriors as jihadiest, brain-washed them thru paid mullahs & launched an assault on Afghanistan.
these were the heroes of reagan, zia & shiekh.
then again things started diluting.
And this time again the heads of states of US, Saudia & Pakistan introduced another stimulus plan but this time for the militaries of these states to kill their predecessors heroes, declared them terrorists & jihad as terrorism.
These stimulus packages by the heads of states of US, Saudia & Pakistan worked perfectly well to create hatered up to the extant that ensured mass killings.
Job well done.
And last but not least thanks to bhutto for showing the world a way to exploit the internal leadership crisis of Afghanistan to create hatered for mass killings. Bhutto was the first Pakistani head of state who laid the foundation of interferring in Afghanistans internal matters by helping hikmatyar & rabbani to oust dauds govt.
Pakistani Govt is hand bound.
its doing ,what has been ordered .
can not go for a single step at its own will.
Asif
Blocked
Beenai
we should not be apologetic,
have anyone forced bhutto to help out hikmatyar & rabbani?
has anyone forced zia to shelter thousand of warriors under the label of madrassah & jihadi?
has anyone forced bb & ns to continue interferrence in leadership crisis in Afghanistan?
Why we become apologetic on behalf of the blunders of these heads of state?
@Asif
thats what i was saying.
they should do something with their won will...
that should be according to the national interest too.
rather just following the US agenda .
all actions ,u have mentioned in your posts ,are off those ,has been done by different Pakistani leaders on the orders of USA .
linkwheel
Member
Another BLAST in Peshawar
shahzad1924
member
this wont end unless we expel America from Pakistan and this region. its simple as that
@shahzad,
but expelling US from the region is not as simple as u r saying.
Asif
Blocked
Beenai,
"all actions ,u have mentioned in your posts ,are off those ,has been done by different Pakistani leaders on the orders of USA ."
Did USA force bhutto to interfer in Afghanistan internal matters?
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