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Is Syria To Be Attacked Shortly?

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  1. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    The U.S.A. seems to be planning an invasion over Syria. The American citizens have been advised to leave Syria and move to other places. Similarly, Turkey has advised the Turkish citizens to avoid road travelling in Syria.

    The time of Alwaite regime seems to be over. Massive deaths like of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya are feared. Bashar Al Asad must choose to flee instead of causing massive deaths to innocent people and his own. Iran will be the best place for his asylum. Irani government had been in good terms with the Syrian Asad family since the revolution of Iran.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 7:36 #
  2. OK, HF, I wasn't going to reply to this, but since no one else is coming forward, let me briefly give my take on the Syria situation. No mention was made above of the Russian warship(s) in Syrian ports. All right. So that means the situation has gone beyond Syria itself.

    Also, how often are we going to be taken in by zionist propaganda? We saw the effect of it on Libya. Now it's Syria. We carry on being taken in, soon it will be Pakistan's turn. Wake up, Muslims, and think things over again instead of accepting all the deadly stuff we are being fed on a daily basis.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:33 #
  3. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    MG

    Most of the members on this forum are engaged in political fights. They are not much interested on other issues related to international affairs and internal affairs.

    The disintegrated form of the Muslim World into more than 56 states has made us 'Tar Niwala' of the Western powers.

    Now there are indications that the Soviets and the Chinese are no more in a mood of being silent spectators. They are also preparing to take up their arms.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:52 #
  4. Abdul Rahman
    Member

    How many times do I have to explain that US, Israel, Iran, Lebanon are on same side here. They may invade at the very end only to block the Sunni majority from assuming power. Right now everyone of those countries are working towards a Shia crescent as per Muslim Brotherhood thread by KHAN_Sahib.

    Israel has made it very clear that it wants to deal with Alawites Baathist thugs rather than the future Sunni led government. Also please note that these Alawites thugs were elevated to power not by people not by Alawites but by the French colonialists for their long term interests.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 13:16 #
  5. bsobaid
    Member

    An attack on syria may or may not be imminent.

    There is no chance whatsoever of Russia or China getting involved in all this.

    Syria did distance itself from Iran in past 2 years so I am not sure if Syria still is part of the Iranian influenced country in the region and Syria did deviate from Iranian aimbitions a little....

    There is 50/50 chance of international military interference..Talking of which, MMA (mulla Military allaince) is already in works in Egypt...Everything is soo predictable that it amazes me...

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 13:48 #
  6. Everything is soo predictable that it amazes me...

    Because everything is according to a certain plan.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 14:04 #
  7. I am surprised and pleased. The comments were better than I expected. And now, AR, if you would be so good. Could you perhaps explain Egypt to us in light of what Sheikh Imran Hossein predicted not so long ago? We seem to talk of Shia crescent and Sunni circle or whatever and never a mention of Eretz Israel? Or Neo-colonialism or the descent of the west into bankruptcy. Or the latest mainstream media hype: The start of a new Cold War. So once again, where does Egypt figure in all this?

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 16:25 #
  8. bsobaid
    Member

    Behavior of different social class remain the same no matter the country or region.

    The religious parties in Pakistan have always formed alliances with power circle. The religious parties in Egypt are doing the exact same with military.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 17:42 #
  9. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    bsobaid

    Religious elements in politics are also more materialistic than spiritual. It is because of this weakness that they also become the tools of powers.

    Posted 6 months ago on 26 Nov 2011 5:50 #
  10. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    America's dramatic policies towards Syria is not comprehensible. Some deep rooted drama is going on.

    Posted 2 months ago on 15 Mar 2012 12:14 #
  11. bsobaid
    Member

    Yeah, looks like it.

    Some countries announce embassy closures last week.

    Will be interesting to see Putin's reaction.

    Posted 2 months ago on 15 Mar 2012 13:14 #
  12. expakistani
    Member

    America is not in mood to do any thing in syria; Election year and economic situation is not favoring Mr Obama to take military action in Syria or even in Iran.

    Here is an opportunity for Muslim/Arab league to show their power and help out poor syrian people; Assad and his thugs are committing crime against humanity.... why not Muslim forces take action again Assad's froces, why always they have to wait for west or UNO to do something and then get blame for such act.

    Posted 2 months ago on 15 Mar 2012 13:15 #
  13. EasyGo
    Member

    @bsobaid

    There is no chance whatsoever of Russia or China getting involved in all this.

    ========

    Then there is a question, why they are on the other side? They might not be against the US/West in love of Syrian people.

    Secondly, is the situation on ground in Syria is as bad as portrayed through international media which we have seen, has its own way of reporting things.

    Posted 2 months ago on 15 Mar 2012 13:38 #
  14. bsobaid
    Member

    It is possible Easy.
    China and Russia dont go beyond a certain point.

    Putin is seen in Russia as a future west-conqueror and west kay samnay naa jhuknay wala naa biknay wala. Russia and China have shown their opposition. Now if west does go ahead, it will be a little embarassing for both these countries if they dont do anything. Unless, Arab League gets involved in the army action, then both these two countries can say Arab people themselves dont want Assad.

    Posted 2 months ago on 15 Mar 2012 13:45 #
  15. Abdul Rahman
    Member

    Israel has made it clear that it will rather deal with Assad than sunni Muslims that may assume power and change the balance of power all over the region. Assad and his Alawite clan have always been supporting Zionist agenda. The reknown Muslim scholar Ibn Taymiyyah called them the worst enemy than Jews. And said Jihad against them in obligatory.

    Please read 2 articles below:

    http://www.muslimhope.com/Alawites.htm

    The Alawites and Israel

    The ruling group in Syria, the Alawites – a highly distinctive non-Muslim sect with no theological or territorial objections to a Jewish state – believe that
    two of God’s incarnations were Joshua Ben-Nun, the original Jewish conqueror of the Land of Israel, and the fourth Caliph, Ali, who was murdered by the Sunnis.
    They do not fast during Ramadan or make pilgrimage to Mecca, have no mosques or indeed any public worship, and traditionally wear crosses like Christians.

    The Alawites are outnumbered in Syria by 70 to 12 percent. Thus, in order to legitimize their rule among the Sunni majority, they must publicly project an image of championing Arabism by unrelentingly rejecting Israel and flirting with Israel’s avowed enemies. Syria will not accept a peace treaty with Israel, no matter what the conditions are, because it would delegitimize the Alawite
    regime.

    The Alawites are a purely ancestral religious group and like other groups of this type – Jews, Maronites, Armenians and Druze – their basic loyalty is to
    their own particular group rather than any larger unit they may seem to be part of. Even if they happen to speak Arabic, they do not necessarily understand
    themselves as being “Arabs.” Alawites in Syria find it indispensable to publicly claim to be Arabs, but this does not reflect their real loyalties.

    From Israel’s perspective, it is better for the Alawites to maintain power in Syria than for a Sunni regime to take control there. These Muslims are particularly dangerous to Israel because they are of the same ethnicity as the
    Palestinians. For a Sunni regime in Syria, any wide-scale Israeli-Palestinian clash, such as the Gaza operation, would likely trigger an emotional response,
    pulling Syria into a war with Israel, regardless of the consequences. This represents a much more serious danger to Israel than the fall of the Mubarak regime in Egypt, where popular attachment to the Palestinians is much
    more superficial.

    The West is Complicit in Assad’s Massacres

    Jonathan Tobin, This guy comes regularly on CNN

    For months we have been hearing prominent Americans from media pundits to President Obama promising that Bashar Assad’s Syrian tyranny was on its way out. Most of this optimism was based on a faulty understanding of the grip that the Assad ...clan and its Alawite allies have on the Syrian military and security services as well as a misapprehension about what constitutes the tipping point in toppling despotic regimes.

    But as Assad’s forces expand their bloodthirsty crackdowns to other cities in the country after squelching the opposition in the north, it is also fair to point out that he is only getting away with this because neither President Obama and the European Union nor the Arab League which professes to be horrified by these atrocities is willing to lift a finger to stop him. Thousands have already been slaughtered and thousands more thrust into Syrian dungeons where they are being tortured by the regime. But all these people have gotten from the West are empty words such as those uttered by the president on the subject.

    It needs to be re-emphasized that the difference between what is going on in Syria and what happened in Tunisia and Egypt last year is that unlike the heads of those regimes, the ruler of Damascus hasn’t lost his willingness to kill in order to hold onto power. It is an iron rule of history that such governments only fall when, as in the French Revolution, the collapse of the Shah’s regime in Iran or the end of the Soviet Union, the elites in power are no longer able to summon the will to violently suppress dissent. So long as Assad hasn’t lost his taste for blood — and he obviously hasn’t — he won’t be heading for the exits.

    That means if the West really cares about the wholesale slaughter going on in Syria, it is going to have to do something whether it means arming and/or training the rebels or authorizing some sort of international intervention.

    Getting into a conflict, even a limited one, in Syria is something that any administration, let alone one facing re-election would be reluctant to do. But given the scale of the suffering in Syria, President Obama needs to understand that if he wants his rhetoric about human rights to have any credibility, he’s going to have show some real leadership. But given the Obama administration’s predilection for “leading from behind” as well as its obvious lack of interest in doing anything more than talk about Syria and its Iranian ally, Assad’s victims shouldn’t expect help from America anytime in the foreseeable future.
    For months we have been hearing prominent Americans from media pundits to President Obama promising that Bashar Assad’s Syrian tyranny was on its way out. Most of this optimism was based on a faulty understanding of the grip that the Assad clan and its Alawite allies have on the Syrian military and security services as well as a misapprehension about what constitutes the tipping point in toppling despotic regimes.

    But as Assad’s forces expand their bloodthirsty crackdowns to other cities in the country after squelching the opposition in the north, it is also fair to point out that he is only getting away with this because neither President Obama and the European Union nor the Arab League which professes to be horrified by these atrocities is willing to lift a finger to stop him. Thousands have already been slaughtered and thousands more thrust into Syrian dungeons where they are being tortured by the regime. But all these people have gotten from the West are empty words such as those uttered by the president on the subject.

    It needs to be re-emphasized that the difference between what is going on in Syria and what happened in Tunisia and Egypt last year is that unlike the heads of those regimes, the ruler of Damascus hasn’t lost his willingness to kill in order to hold onto power. It is an iron rule of history that such governments only fall when, as in the French Revolution, the collapse of the Shah’s regime in Iran or the end of the Soviet Union, the elites in power are no longer able to summon the will to violently suppress dissent. So long as Assad hasn’t lost his taste for blood — and he obviously hasn’t — he won’t be heading for the exits.

    That means if the West really cares about the wholesale slaughter going on in Syria, it is going to have to do something whether it means arming and/or training the rebels or authorizing some sort of international intervention.

    Getting into a conflict, even a limited one, in Syria is something that any administration, let alone one facing re-election would be reluctant to do. But given the scale of the suffering in Syria, President Obama needs to understand that if he wants his rhetoric about human rights to have any credibility, he’s going to have show some real leadership. But given the Obama administration’s predilection for “leading from behind” as well as its obvious lack of interest in doing anything more than talk about Syria and its Iranian ally, Assad’s victims shouldn’t expect help from America anytime in the foreseeable future.

    Posted 2 months ago on 15 Mar 2012 22:16 #
  16. sipahi
    Member

    How long we as muslims keep ourself divided based on ethnicity and sects? This allows enemies of muslims to exploit sitituation for their benefits.

    After Syria, what's next, is it Balochistan Province of Pakistan?

    Balochistan has also a majority ethnic population on war footings with non-Balochi forces.

    Posted 2 months ago on 16 Mar 2012 1:45 #

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