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  1. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Video: Roshni ka Safar (islami jamiat talba)

    Roshni ka Safar (islami jamiat talba) Part 1/4
    Roshni ka Safar (islami jamiat talba) Part 2/4
    Roshni ka Safar (islami jamiat talba) Part 3/4
    Roshni ka Safar (islami jamiat talba) Part 4/4

    I advise everyone to watch this video series for themselves, to come to their own conclusions, to make your own opinion rather than depend on others for it.

    Youtube channels;

    (1) zeshanadeel
    (2) pakjamaat

    Use of ‘suggest’ (proposition) is certainly better than ‘advice’ (counsel-recommend). A ‘request’ an even better choice.

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 7:31 #
  2. RajputPuttar

    Harris

    Who are u to make an advice? At the most u can suggest.

    Be out of this arrogance.

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 11:00 #
  3. theimrannasir

    sorry to say Islami Jammiat Tulba is not on the Islamic track. Islami Jammiat Tulba belives in terrorism, they torture their rivals, they insult their teachers. I liked Islami Jammiat Tulba but when they they tortured and detained Imaran Khan, I despised eversince. Please follow the right track of Muhammad (PBUH). Respect your teachers, you VC, your elders.

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 13:38 #
  4. justapakistani

    The other side of coin.... ;)
    Naam nihad Islami Jamait ki giran kadar kidmat(few samples) :)

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=221025

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 14:10 #
  5. netengr

    @hariskhan

    I am clicking the link but its not working its going back to the same page where i click ,Like JI .

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 14:15 #
  6. to Admin(s)/Moderators:
    Agree with you for using right grammars, such as preposition, adjectives, etc. However, for most established forum it is usually compromised. And for being a neutral moderator, you should rectify the broken links as well.
    My suggestion, if the content is violating the forum than you should not allow such content. Thanks.

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 15:02 #
  7. Sweettruth

    IJT is very dangerous student group with bullying and ghundagardi as their trademark. I have witnessed many times their acts of badmashi/ghundagardi in Karachi University. Punjab University is their current centre of badmashi and ghundagardi. I feel sorry for students of Punjab University.

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 15:11 #
  8. Salam

    apmso is very dangerous student group with bullying and ghundagardi as their trademark... array bhai apni MQM ka haal bhi to bayaan karo naa :)

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 16:12 #
  9. RajputPuttar

    Salam bahi

    APMSO 'farhista' honey kaa dawa bhi tu nahi kartey.

    Unfortunately/fortunately i have been student of both PU (Hailey college / Dept of CS ) and KU (iba) and know both these very well.

    Both of these never demanded bhatta and at the same time never tolerated any difference. In my oponion , PU mein haalat ziada kharab haain.

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 16:40 #
  10. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @netengr: I'm regret the inconvenience. Here are the links;

    Video: Roshni ka Safar (islami jamiat talba)

    Part #1: Roshni ka Safar (islami jamiat talba)
    Part #2: Roshni ka Safar (islami jamiat talba)
    Part #3: Roshni ka Safar (islami jamiat talba)
    Part #4: Roshni ka Safar (islami jamiat talba)

    P.S. Whoever from Admin/Moderators modified my original message, messed up the links, in the process. I told them to take care.

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 18:18 #
  11. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Checkout the nick;

    -> Sweettruth
    -> justapakistani (proxyman)

    dono nick dekhne main sheera, aur kaam main saamp ki tarhan :-)

    RajputPuttar was talking with justapakistani earlier in the morning, all alone on another thread. One RajputPuttar and one justapakistani, the proxyman. Looks like RajputPuttar uses proxy and a second ID.

    Both! should be banned for it.

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 18:21 #
  12. KHAN_Sahib

    Forgive my ignorance about IT but does anyone with Proxyman under their name are either fake or using double ID's? Am I right to assume that or can some one elaborate on this please?

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 18:35 #
  13. skunk

    Terrorists!

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 19:33 #
  14. Fahim23

    Terrorists like MQM ... the only reason JI/IJT get away and are not grilled and blamed as MQM is becausae after every cold blooded murder, rape, bully, extortion they chant ALLAH-O-AKBER!

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 19:44 #
  15. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Again, the links have been messed up :|

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 19:48 #
  16. skunk

    @ Fahim: so true!

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 20:37 #
  17. RajputPuttar

    Gentlemen,

    AT the moment i only have this ID.

    Harris BAhi,

    Abb pindi kaay awam lakhoon kii taadad mein aap kay khilaf haain , tu woh bhi double id haai kiya :)

    Yaar , logic say baat karo. here no one has time to make double/triple id's to prove his point. If i have point, i can argue it with a single id , if i don't have , i can't make it even with 10 id's.

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 20:52 #
  18. Justapakistani

    lolz jamaiti thaa.........seems Mr jamaiti lost his mind and now accusing me of using proxy.....i m on this forum before u join this forum......bhahiyaa jaab har jagaa ganday hoo rahay hain tu aab inkooo din main bhi multiple/proxy aur ids kay khoub aray hain......... lolzzzz

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Feb 2010 21:56 #
  19. Ismlami Jamiat kay larkay ghunday hain .
    and APMSO kay larky bhi ghunday hain .
    mujh ko lagta hay kay in subko ban kar dena chahiye ...

    Talibah tanzeemein band karo ...
    college ,university ki ghunda gardi nahin chalay gi ...
    nahin chalay gi ...

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Mar 2010 5:11 #
  20. hkbajwa

    the IJT are no more than a bunch of theologically sanctioned crooked thugs.

    They have the same modus operandi as your regular garden variety ghunda student organization.

    the reason they are worse however is because they hide they ghunda gardi behind a cloak of "islam". That makes them hypocritical thugs.. the absolute worst kind.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 5:35 #
  21. LalBichoo

    Jamiat should be given credit for introducing fire-arms in educational institutions :)))

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 5:37 #
  22. @choosy

    I had a terrible fight with the boys in my college age. They are 5 and i am one. I knock them down, They were very terrified of me. Whenever i passed before them they always salute me

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 5:40 #
  23. @Jackal ,
    university aur colleges mein APMSO aur jamaat e Talbah ki bari khufnak larayan hoti thein...
    mein tu chup jata tha ...:):):)

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 5:42 #
  24. @Choosy

    U are with me, don't afraid, I am a gang leader.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 5:44 #
  25. thanks Jackal Boss ...:):):)

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 5:45 #
  26. @Choosy

    Choosy thanks for favoring me, if any low paid thug distrub u plz tell me, u r my man now

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 5:49 #
  27. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @hkbajwa: Theological means;

    based upon the nature and will of God as revealed to humans.

    Yes, that is exactly what Muslims are guided by i.e., Islam sent by ALLAH ALMIGHTY. They may be poor with it in the past, but they will improve on it, with time, INSHALLAH. They will learn.

    Those ruling over us go against it, they reject it. If those who rule over us, implemented justice, the problem you underscore would have been solved within a month. Why didn't they ? Why did they allow it to go on for decades ? Why are they still allowing it to go on ?

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 6:09 #
  28. aristotle

    IJT is always involved in humiliation of respected teachers, threatening, strikes and classes boycott.

    This is their profile which i had seen in KU.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 12:21 #
  29. azzmat

    what is the talaba part of this terrorist organization?
    Yeh jo talaba aur taliban haie yah kisse library paie kabza kar lita haie, koie chinese agwa kar leta haie, yah goliyan chala rehay hotay hain, yeh buumb phar rehay hotay hain. In ki extra circular activities itnie zaida hain yeh parthay kiss waqat hain?

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 12:25 #
  30. Jamat e Talibah should be banned all over the city .:(:(:(

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 12:34 #
  31. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @aristotle: azzmat: The point is, the situation will remain as it is until justice is served.

    It is the people who are responsible for imparting justice, who are not curbing these activities.

    Once the state ensures the common man that justice will be served, IJT and ALL others will automatically come into line.

    At that time, IJT will be the best of organizations, known to Pakistani people.

    Without justice, there's no hope of ever redeeming anything.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 12:37 #
  32. azzmat

    hariskhan
    any hand the breaks the law should be broken with an iron hand? do you agree or do you support injustice?

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 12:54 #
  33. theimrannasir

    Above mentioned opinions are enough to show Jammiat its repute among the people. If Jammiat had adopted islamic way to guide students they would never have faced such criticism.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 13:43 #
  34. NNL

    Above mentioned opinions are enough to show Jammiat its repute among the people. If Jammiat had adopted islamic way to guide students they would never have faced such criticism. .

    finally some sense

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 13:48 #
  35. Anonymous

    Let me be very clear about IJT. Having watched them for years in my College and university life, my college and university both had IJT all over...
    What I saw the participants of the IJT were mostly students from rural background who probably were deprived, once given powers of union they use to think they can rule over urban educated families students. They use to humiliate them, beat them without challenge. Such layout has made IJT outlook so bad.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 13:50 #
  36. RajputPuttar

    supercreature

    very right. MOstly these guys come from rural background ,who need a place to stay , hostel and secondly they have a wish to become 'chauhdry'. This is what jamiat provides them in the name of islam. One interesting thing is that most of these guys are in subjects which are no more popular with urban guys like humanities.They can't make to depts like iba or computer science etc.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 15:02 #
  37. hkbajwa

    @ hariskhan

    Well done.. you have successfully found the meaning of the word "theological".. Perhaps you can also tell me what "thug" mean.

    Thug, a criminal, who treats others violently and roughly, especially for hire. Often a member of a gang, as an enforcer in organized crime.

    So my point was that the IJT are criminals who treat others violently and roughly in the name of God.

    Now i don't know what tribe of barbarian muslims you belong to, but my god is Al rahman and Al raheem.. he doesn't need criminals engaging in violence to support him. Indeed by their very actions they work AGAINST him.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 19:46 #
  38. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @hkbajwa: I'm sorry. I'v mentioned my point too many times. I'm not going to repeat it again.

    You are either unable or don't want to comprehend my words. In either case, I will not repeat that which I have repeated over and over again.

    Good day/evening.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 20:00 #
  39. hkbajwa

    @ Haris

    hahahahaha.. got your panties in a twist again i see.
    you have indeed said a great many things... however i have yet to see a POINT emanating from your quarter.

    Now instead of storming out of the discussion like a hormonal teenager, how about you actually calm yourself down and try to express yourself a little more clearly.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 20:08 #
  40. Anonymous

    @RajputPuttar

    Yes you have rightly pointed out their presence in the few departments. I tell you that I had one of my class fellow who was lone member of IJT in University department and even use to feel a bit shame when we use to point out him about this. Ofcourse that department was technology department.

    You will see people in IJT from law department, arts, humanity etc... those will come from BA background... mostly from rural areas. They are abused under chaudaries for ages and when they see get chance under IJT, weapons, power etc, they use this on peaceful boy and girls of univ ...

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Mar 2010 21:24 #
  41. aristotle

    Two wrong cannot make a right
    ur justification is absolutely unacceptable.

    and my dear , injustice which is happening in our society, political-**** –gunda political parties and their students organization is playing a major role in this social crime.

    Parties who r using our respectable religion name for polishing their politics, their students and other sub organizations must be more civilized and should play a role model for others. However, unfortunately, these reps r more violent, cruel, uncivilized and crook like others.

    abt Roshni Ka Safar... suggestion to all IJT, plz start ur journey towards Roshni. Thanks

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 7:35 #
  42. @Aristotle ,
    he he he ...
    Jamat te talibah ulta gayer laga kay chalti hay .dont u know that ?
    roshni se andheraon ka safar ...:):):)

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 7:51 #
  43. aristotle

    batameez choosy

    buri baat,Haris bhai bura maan jay gey aur apna squad bhijwa dey **** :)
    tumhey bhi roshnai kay safar ki zaroorat hay:)

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 9:12 #
  44. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    We have some initiatives for spreading education in Pakistan, even if they are from private sector. But, education is a secondary problem.

    The primary problem(s) we face is;

    (1) Loyalty
    (2) Justice

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 9:23 #
  45. @Aristotle,
    mein koi badtameez waghaira nahin hon.
    yahan sirf aik badtameez hay aur wohh hay ...:):):)

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 10:37 #
  46. aristotle

    Bhai Haris
    kehna kia chahtey ho???????

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 10:56 #
  47. yeh sirf lambi lambi batein karta hay .
    kam ka hal nahin batata ...iska sirf yeh masla hay ..:):):)

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 11:13 #
  48. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    IF justice is served, IJT will itself surface as one of the best organizations this country/nation will ever produce.

    Untill justice is denied, this nation won't ever be able to make progress, no matter what.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 13:16 #
  49. LalBichoo

    hariskhan,

    I totally agree with you that Jamiat should be given credit for introducing Kalashinkov culture in educational institutions !

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 13:18 #
  50. Anonymous

    @hariskhan

    I believe that political organizations/unions like IJT should not be allowed in the educational institutes and terrorist groups like MQM should also be banned.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 13:28 #
  51. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @supercreature: The decision has to be, of this nation, its people. I don't mind what the decisions is. ALL I want is, that the decision be an informed one.

    This needs to be discussed.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 13:31 #
  52. A political organization/union should be banned for ever from an educational institute, once it is realized they resort to violence and use of arms.
    BTW do we need organizations/unions in our educational institutes at all?

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 13:36 #
  53. فارغ جذباتی


    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 13:44 #
  54. Anonymous

    @semirza

    You are right. There should be no govt political influence in Institute, no political appointment, etc. There should be just tranparent funding to them. There should be no political unions presense in Institutions. Institutions are not for political activists.

    @hariskhan

    What decision are you talking about? What I am saying is its not logical to have political unions in accadamic Institutions. How can you assert yourself here?

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 14:39 #
  55. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @supercreature: I am a common man of this nation.

    However, in this instance, I am not asserting myself. I'm just saying, the decision this nation takes, should be an informed one. Why ? Because Govt. has not taken charge of imparting education related services, just yet.

    If private welfare organizations are quashed before Govt. takes charge, it will bring about a gap in services to the poor of this nation.

    So far, the people running Govt. haven't shown any vision or effort towards bringing improvement in education sector.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 14:41 #
  56. Anonymous

    @HarisKhan

    I understand what you mean, it may apply for the private schools, private health care, private NGO to provide ambulance services, etc, etc. What IJT is providing here ?? bahi ji I could not see the purpose in my 8 years of College and university life. Same for MSF or any unions like MQM's APMSO? and what gap will come?

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 15:03 #
  57. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @supercreature: I don't know.

    I would have to agree, for the most part.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 15:10 #
  58. Anonymous

    @HarisKhan

    Thanks for understanding my stand point on political unions in institutes. All of these present political base and they have their own political agenda. Institutes should not have any room for them.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 15:22 #
  59. hamara pakistan

    @Hariskhan
    These student parties like IJT, MSF or others are nothing but a bunch of criminals. I remember when I was studyig in Murray College Sialkot and these groups were fighting to each others and pulling the guns at each others and murdering the other groups of students. Whoever joins them and can kill a person he is a big hero for them and enjoys the support of political parties. They don't come to college/university for study. They come there to get the training to be a bloody politician in future.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Mar 2010 15:40 #
  60. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    What I want is rule of law, justice.

    Unless the common man of Pakistan has complete! confidence in Pakistan's justice system, people of this nation should not expect Jamiat to disarm or to allow for Jamiat to be dismantled.

    Posted 4 years ago on 05 Mar 2010 5:04 #

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