We the people of Pakistan what r doing if we are united with Nawaz sharif for recovering Justice then why we don't work together for Islamic system in Pakistan. We are weeping and sad on the death of BB and destroying the property of our country and why not sad on the insult by denmark news paper of Our beloved prophet (pbuh)
The matter is that we are living a hypocritical life and the hypocrites like us can't stay in true Islamic system we love songs we love chatting with girls we love enjoying the world.for true Muslims this world is hell. And we are living in heavenly earth. Soon in the next world we will see what we r doing we r living in imagination
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Its time for practical
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kingsalah
BlockedPosted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 6:17 # -
quaidkamazaar
Memberyou can not force people to not love the world, not chat with girls, and not enjoy the world.
if you want that, go live in some village ruled by Taliban.
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 6:23 # -
amin1924
memberKingSalah,
What is you advice for people on what should they be doing to get Islamic System in Pakistan?
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 6:24 # -
kingsalah
Blockedmy advise is clear i want to like people to get out the world of imagination we have built a religion of our own mind we have to follow true religion for practice
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 6:27 # -
quaidkamazaar
Memberkingsalah,
should we all prepare for jihad against USA?
what kind of Islamic System do we need then?
would all women be required to cover there heads with force?
what is it that you want?
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 6:30 # -
kingsalah
BlockedQuid qamar
what i can tell u look like a tradional muslim I have no guidline for it is better for u to become fundamentalist for living a traditional lifePosted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 6:38 # -
NNL
memberKingsalah
how do you advocate Unity when we have 2 major forces opposing each other in every aspect.
Shias and Sunnis ?
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 6:42 # -
@kingsaleh
What is the real purpose of this thread? You call every Muslim a hypocryite! What is this fuss of traditional Muslim and the fundamentalist Muslim way of living a traditional life?Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 6:46 # -
khurram Zaman
Membermy advise is clear i want to like people to get out the world of imagination we have built a religion of our own mind we have to follow true religion for practice .....
This is reasonable....
we shud avoid concepts like DIL KA PARDA.....
or PARDA was the arab tradition as hijab is a clear order in Quran....Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 6:54 # -
kingsalah
BlockedThe reality is in the thread we are living the life of our own desires and not following what the Allah has given to us we are not preaching his religion this is true whether u argue or not what r u doing for Islam and sunat of Propthet
think. I know every one oppose me when i put this threadPosted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 6:57 # -
quaidkamazaar
Memberits not the matter or opposing or agreeing kingsalah,
but just saying Its time to get practical does not mean it will happen. we all know Islam is the only true path.
but are you suggesting we should use force to make people religious?
I watch Indian and American movies, how will you take me away from this? Its my right... see not the whole nation will not change themselves at your uttering.
at the end of the day, its between me and my allah. you can warn but not force.
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:05 # -
khurram Zaman
MemberMost of the muslims living like this,
Parda dil ka hotha hy,short sleeve is must.
Shalwar ooper kerny se kuch nahi hotha....
Beard or not dont matters in Islam......
Jumma prayer is must...These are the combined acts of Munafiqeen and totally against the Islamic orders of quran and sunnah..
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:10 # -
khurram Zaman
MemberQaid,
If govt under secularism can implement a law to allow ahomosexuality by force(as a law from govt).than why we shud just warn ppl to go with Islamic Orders and why we shud just not implement the rules and regulations...????
Only law inforcement is needed here..Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:12 # -
quaidkamazaar
Memberjust having a beard and ooonchi shalwaar does not mean you are a religious good person?
it used to mean like that in the old days but nowadays, even people with beards cheat like its their job.
your eeimaan comes from within you, and it reflects in your behaviour.
just because you look western does not mean you are munafiqeen, QuaidEAzam wore Suits and made this country.
so if being practical means being a typical Taliban, then im against it. otherwise, I agree with this topic that we are getting away from our deen and losing.
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:15 # -
khurram Zaman
Memberjust having a beard and ooonchi shalwaar does not mean you are a religious good person???
So this is ur justification against sunnah orders abt oonchi shalwar or beared......
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:21 # -
khurram Zaman
Memberjust because you look western does not mean you are munafiqeen, QuaidEAzam wore Suits and made this country.???
and this is ur justification in favour of westren look???
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:22 # -
khurram Zaman
MemberPls dont just play with words and accept that u dont like hijab,dont like oonchi shalwar,beard...
Why play with the words.Such diplomatic statements never prove you real or acting muslim but you are still muslim by name no beared and not having oonchi shalwar...that all and fair enough and straight forward facts abt u...may be its good for you.,,but dont preach such things abt islam or excuses of such type abt Islam..be fair and straight either you are or not a practical muslim...thats the end..Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:26 # -
quaidkamazaar
MemberI am not justifying, I am just saying sometimes, more important than looks is sincere belief.
There is no way I can preach against sunnah if I am true muslim.
My justification is in favour of spreading our deen more through good actions. not through looks which can be deceiving.
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:28 # -
quaidkamazaar
Memberhahaha Khurram Zaman, i am laughing at our conversation here.
there is no choice,
If growing beard is sunnah in Islam, I have to LIKE it there is no choice. but it does not mean I have to force myself to grow beard.
Since when was growing a beard a farz?
Why do you always get the opposite of the point i am trying to make? I am not going against Islam.
There is room in Islam and you just have to see it.
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:30 # -
khurram Zaman
Memberbut you know what Islam says.......
UDKHOLU FISSILMY KAFFAH...(al-quran)
din me pooray k poory dakhil ho jawo...
If some thing not mentioned in sunnah as must than quran is the first order to go with....
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:33 # -
quaidkamazaar
Memberahan, so because I dont have a beard I am not totally into Islam?
how do you even know how much i am into Islam? Its between Allah and me... same with the rest of the AWaam. you cannot force but you can do daawah in the best of ways that dont scare people but attract people to this religion.
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:36 # -
khurram Zaman
MemberIf oyu are army officer and you go their without proper dress they will kick you out .......the same if you claim to be muslim here than u shud proper observe things and orders by Islam....no excuse but acceptance of one failure not to comply with proper code of Islam.....
We shud not satisfy with that i am going right abt islam,,but shud feel ashame all the time ,not following proper code of Islam...this is my final wordings here to you..i am sorry if i say some thing hurted you here....Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:38 # -
quaidkamazaar
Memberokay brother, I will take your advice,
Ramadan KAreem brother.i actually agree with your point.
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:39 # -
khurram Zaman
MemberRamazan Mubarak...thank you..
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Aug 2009 7:39 #
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