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Jamaat-e-Islami ka Maqsad - Qazi Hussain Ahmad

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hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Topic: Jamaat-e-Islami ka Maqsad
Speaker: Qazi Hussain Ahmad

Part #1:

Part #2:

Part #3:

Part #4:

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Qazi sb. explains a great many things in this video including;

(a) the purpose of JI
(b) Does JI call people towards JI or Personalities or Maulana Maududi or Qazi Hussain Ahmad or Munawwar Hassan ? NO!
(c) JI was made to call people towards ALLAH ALMIGHTY, towards Muhammad (SAW)
(d) Politics
(e) Can religious people come into politics ?
(f) Politics in Mosques ?
(g) etc etc

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Mar 2010 19:17 #
azizi
Member

عالم اسلام کی بےلوث ٹھیکیداری
قوم کی بیٹیوں کی عصمت کی رکھوالی
قوم کے بیٹوں کے اخلاق کی پہرےداری
پاکستانیوں کی نظریاتی سرحدوں کی حفاظت
یہ ثابت کرنا کہ جماعت اسلامی ميں اسلام ہے
پاکستان کی کافر تاریخ کو مشرف بہ اسلام کرنا
چلو امریکا چلو یعنی گو امریکا گو کا نعرہ لگانا
داڑھی کو مہندی سے نہیں ٹماٹو کیچپ سے رنگنا
دہلی کے لال قلعہ پر اور وائٹ ہاؤس پر اسلام کا جھنڈا لگانا
جو مذکور بالا مقاصد سے اتفاق نہ کریں ان سب پاکستانیوں کا کام تمام کرنا

بشکریہ بی بی سی ڈاٹ کام

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Mar 2010 20:06 #
yahya
Member

تحريک پاکستان کی مخالفت کرنا
پاکستان کو ناپاکستان کہنا
جہاد کشمير کو حرام کہنا، جب تک ڈالر نہ مليں
تعليمی اداروں کا بيڑا غرق کرنا
ڈکٹيٹر کو سب سے پہلے گلے لگانا
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غرض پاکستان کے ہر بنيادی مسئلہ ميں حصہ ڈالنا

Posted 2 years ago on 09 Mar 2010 22:48 #
LalBichoo
Blocked

Qazi ka maazi

..... ......

Munafiqoon kee shaan
Munafiqoon kee aan
Qazi Khan Qazi Khan

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 4:55 #
choosy
Member

Jammat e islami ka maqasad boycott karna ...:):):)
Kisi Din ghalati se Jamat walay Qazi ka apna boycott na kar dalien ...
Go Qazi Go...he he he

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 5:17 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@choosy: Qazi sb. has achieved far more than boycotts. Only you are not aware of it.

You know very little about Qazi sb.'s life, his work, his achievements.

When did you ever learn about how Qazi sb. spends his days, weeks, months, years ?

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 6:24 #
choosy
Member

@Haris bhai sahib,
haan ,mein nahin jaanta ...
plz do char points mujh ko bhi bata do jo Qazi ne boycott se achieve kiye hon,takay meri malomaat mein izafa ho sakay.

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 8:42 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@choosy: I have put more than 'do char' points in previous threads on this forum.

(1) It was protests of JI under Qazi sb. which stopped Pak Govt. from signing NPT and CTBT treaties

That is why you still have a nuclear arsenal in Pakistan.

If Pakistan would have signed these treaties, Pakistan's nuclear capability would have gone down the drain.

Muslims ALL over the world would have been subjugated to the worst! of atrocities.

(2) It was protests of JI under Qazi sb. which stopped Benazir Govt. in early 1990s from corruption in large scale Pakistani companies

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 9:31 #
choosy
Member

Haris bhai ,
aap buaht jaldi jaldi khafa hotay hain.
meri yaad dashat kamzor hay mauf kar dein.

Qazi ne CTBT aur NPT pe sign rukawaye yah tou karnama ho gaya ,mein nahin janta tha bhai .

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 9:36 #
LalBichoo
Blocked

Bhagooo Zalimo Qazi hath may Gandaasa lay kar aaa raha hay :))

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 9:38 #
pakti
Blocked

Indian Agent

when you all see Bichoo is playing wrong game

just past this link in your messanger

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 10:12 #
LalBichoo
Blocked

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 10:29 #
hamarapakistan
Member

Jamaat-e-Islami ka Maqsad
1 - Napakistan ka nara buland kar ke Quaid-e-Azam ko kafir karar dena.
2 - Hakoomton ko black mail kar ke apne shaitani kaam karwana
3 - Dictators ke saath mil ke Musalmano ko so called Afghan Jihad mein jhonkna aur Pakistan ke liey Tabahi ko yakeeni banana.
4 - Sarhad mein hukumat bana ke Taliban Terrorists ko mazboot karna.
5 - Terrorist suicide bombing pe bahane bana kar pakistanies ko batana ke ye to reaction hai.
6 - "Zalmo Kazi aa raha hai" ka nara laga kar government ko drana dhamkana :):)
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.
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and the list goes on

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 12:30 #
sweettruth
Member

Qazi has done ore damage to JI than anyone else. JI now stands alone in political map of Pakistan. Only Right wing groups like PTI and Talibans share Jamat's ideology which in fact has been completely rejected by majority of people in Pakistan. I see a dark future for Jamat Islami and they are alive mainly because of their support for extremist groups worldwide.

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 12:34 #
sweettruth
Member

@hamara pakistan
You are absolutely right about Jamat Islami's past, current and future and this extremist pressure group will continue to do negative politics using name of religion as a pretext. Jamat/Jamiat members are badmash and I have seen myslef their badmashi/goondagardi many times in Karachi University. In my opinion, no one is worst than JI in our politics.

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 12:40 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@hamara pakistan: @Sweettruth: Are these allegations based on documented proof or on the basis of 'doubts', 'possibilities', etc etc ?

@Sweettruth: JI's future is bright, MASHALLAH.

Unfortunately, aap dono'n ne abhi kafi thokrain khani hain asliyat tak pohanchte pohanchte.

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 13:16 #
RajputPuttar
Member

hariskhan

U have reached 'asliyat' ?

Can u show other brothers , 'The Certificate' u have got ?

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 13:35 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@RajputPuttar: I leave that to time, to prove.

I don't want to waste my time on you.

ALL your talk is based on circumstantial evidence. Which is not evidence. Its all here-say and calculations based on 'doubts', 'possibilities'.

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 16:28 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Topic: Jamaat-e-Islami ka Maqsad
Speaker: Qazi Hussain Ahmad

Part #5:

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 18:38 #
netengr
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افغانستان‘ طالبان اور حزب اسلامی میں جھڑپ
کابل (خبرایجنسیاں)افغان صوبے بغلان میں طالبان اور حزب اسلامی کے درمیان تصادم میں 80 افراد جاں بحق ہوگئے۔ میڈیا رپورٹس کے مطابق طالبان اور حزب اسلامی کے درمیان متعدد قصبوں کا کنٹرول حاصل کرنے کے لیے لڑائی جاری ہے۔ فریقین بھاری ہتھیاروں اور راکٹ لانچروں کا استعمال کررہے ہیں۔پولیس کے مطابق لڑائی میں 20 طالبان اور حزب اسلامی کے 40 ارکان جبکہ19 شہری بھی مارے گئے ۔ صوبہ بغلان میں افغان حکومت کی عملداری نہ ہونے کے برابر ہے۔ صوبائی کمشنر محمد امین منگل کے مطابق جھڑپوں کا آغاز صوبے کے صدر مقام ضلع بغلان میں طالبان کی جانب سے حزب اسلامی کے ارکان کو غیر مسلح کرنے پر ہوا۔ لڑائی کی وجہ سے بڑے پیمانے پر لوگوں نے علاقے سے نقل مکانی بھی شروع کردی ہے ۔صوبائی کمشنر کے مطابق ضلع بغلان پر افغان حکومت کا کنٹرول نہیں ہے اس لئے لڑائی رکوانے کیلئے حکومت کوئی کارروائی نہیں کر سکتی۔ ادھر نجی ٹی وی کے مطابق افغان صدر حامد کرزئی نے مرجہ کا غیر اعلانیہ دورہ کیا‘ اس موقع پر افغان صوبہ ہلمند کے گورنر کے ترجمان داﺅد احمدی کے مطابق صدر کرزئی کو جس راستے سے گزرنا تھا اس کے قریب ہی ایک راکٹ آ گرا جو خوش قسمتی سے پھٹ نہیں سکا ۔مزیدبرآں افغانستان میں ناٹو کے نمائندے مارک سیڈویل نے کہا ہے کہ افغانستان میں کامیابی کی کنجی افغان عوام کی سیکورٹی اور انصاف کی فراہمی سے ہے۔

http://www.jasarat.com/unicode/detail.php?category=1&newsid=32578&date=2010-03-08

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 18:53 #
theimrannasir
Member

Haris Bhai! Nodoubt, JI used to be a representative of Islam but sorry to say Qazi Hussain Ahmmad promoted a lot no. of oppertunist in Jammat. In Karachi whatever Namat ullah did or Siraj ul haque did in NWFP ( I mean they are true muslims), Can Liaqat Baloach, Ameer ul Azeem, Hafiz Suleman Butt,Zahoor Watoo, Fareed Pracha give any such example? Are these personalities have any such quality because of which we can expect exsisting JI promulgate Islam in Pakistan. They are, put it mildly, dishonest and hypocrate. Who created such character in JI? Answer is very simple "Qazi Hussain Ahmmad". There are so many questions which insinuate that Qazi is far cry from a muslim who is sincere to Islam and country. For your kind knowledge I'm an Ex-Jammati and still, unfortunately, my rest of family is dancing to the tune of Qazi. But I have seen these people from arm's length and have found them very materilistic.

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 19:01 #
achtung
Member

jamaat-a-islami ka maqsad = fasad aur tafarqa peida karo

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 19:03 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@theimrannasir: I see no reason to doubt, no problems with any responsible members of JI, including those which you mentioned.

I have never found anyone of them to be materialistic.

I trust them all.

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 19:13 #
skunkk
Member

Jamaat = Terrorism = killings = violence = iss quom ka sab se bara naasoor ki parchaar bund kerdou haris, bohat meherbani hogi. Werna doori party ke log bhi yehi kerna shuru kerdein ge.

Munafiq-e-Azam Qazi sahab aur Taliban-e-Azam Munawar Hassan ko Pindi aur Lahore mein logon ne ibrat ka nishan bunadiya, zara bhi ghairat hoti tou chullu bhar pani he kafi tha, lekin kya karen taqat ki hawas itni hai ke dil hai ke maant nahi.

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 19:49 #
skunkk
Member

**** ke peechhe Munaaafiq likha thha

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 19:50 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@skunk: A lot goes on, that either you don't know, or don't want to acknowledge or you are hiding.

JI will INSHALLAH continue their struggle for betterment.

Posted 2 years ago on 10 Mar 2010 19:55 #
RajputPuttar
Member

BHiya Harris

I just wanted u to show the certigicate that u have reached 'asliyAt'

Iss Tarah Kay dawaey tu nabi bhi nahi kartey joo aak kal ji waley kartey haain.

BAhi

before making such false claims just read the 'ikhtamimiya' of tafeehim ul Quran by moulana moodoodi. How humble he is there and how arrogant u are.

Just a shame

Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 2:10 #
junaid
Member

Jamaat has given a clear vision to pakistanis that is not be a slave of oppressors. greetings for jammat for they have always raised their voices against cruel govts and estmnts.

Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 4:10 #
choosy
Member

jamat awaz utha kay ,khud beth jati hay ..hukumat kay sath.:):):)

Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 5:08 #
junaid
Member

nahi yaar choosy. abhi bhi tau parliament mai nahi hain.warna tau wo saray election lar rahay thay...despite of judges illegal custodies

Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 5:15 #
choosy
Member

bhai pehli pehli baar jamat bahar hay warna tu assembly kay andar hi hoti hay .
hatta kay dictator ki banai hoee 2 number assembly kay andar bhi thi .

Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 5:24 #
RajputPuttar
Member

Junaid bahi

kiya pco 2000 mein nahi aayaa tha?

Agar pco judges kaa maslaa tha tu 2002 ka election kiyon contest kiya tha?

Bahi , baat woh karo jiss ko aap on the principle defend kar sakoo

Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 5:27 #
theimrannasir
Member

Again it is to be said if we really want Islam's promulgation in Pakistan then we have to look for the persons like our prophet or khulfa i rashadeen.Who cansacrifice, who can stand against their own worldly desires, who can lead a very simple and austere life like them, who can remind us of our ancestors by their character but unfortunately whome we are expecting are not even the patch on our ancestors. They are the people who arn hankering after allurments and temptations of this immortal world. Now we need to recognize their actual faces by seeing whatever they have done so far.

Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 5:35 #
RajputPuttar
Member

theimrannasir

Almost 75% of popluation of current pakistan is son of the soil who belong to sub-continent. Their ancestors (like mine) leads us to Ashoka the great , chundargupt moriya and others not to deserts of arabia.

Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 9:41 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@RajputPuttar: O, I see, now. You want us to return to Hindu culture, the injustice level in the past ?

I have found yet another reason to re-double our efforts for betterment. For what you propose represents injustice, division, fight, death and destruction.

Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:21 #
RajputPuttar
Member

hariskhan

SAwal gandum , jawab chanaa.

Subhanallah bahi .

ITs a historical fact that we are son of the soil , koi dakoo lateereon kii ulaad tu nahi haain who came here in search of wealth.

Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:26 #
yahya
Member

Maududi termed Pakistan as Napakistan, reference here (last para);
http://www.aajkal.com.pk/news/2010/3/12/2.jpg

Posted 2 years ago on 12 Mar 2010 0:25 #
skunkk
Member

Maloon abu munafiqat maududi (Lanat ho Allah ki us per) ka zikr hua tou haris bhai woh tou Quaid e Azam ko bhi Kafir e Azam kehte thay aur Gandhi ji ki talway chaat tay thay.

Yeh hai JI aur uss ke baniyon ka kirdar, aur aap jo chahay kerlo, insaan apna mazhab badl sakta hai waldiyat nahi. Islam qubool kerne se Muhammad bin Qasim ka khoon nahi dauray ga aap ki rago mein, hum Ashok-e-Azam, Porus, Kabir and Chankya ki nasal se hain isko Zia ul Haq course ki kitabein tandeel ker ke badal nahi sakta.

Posted 2 years ago on 12 Mar 2010 4:54 #
skunkk
Member

For the record:
JI is a terrorist organization
Munawar Hasan is the biggest terrorist of all!

Posted 2 years ago on 12 Mar 2010 4:56 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@skunk: For the record, you'r a hypocrite.

You can go to court of law, file cases against JI or IJT JI's other sister organizations. Yet you don't. When you don't do that, it tells me you yourself know JI is innocent. You'r just engaging in mud-slinging against JI for some devious purpose.

Who cares ? Only 'zillat' (in urdu) is your destiny, as a result.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Mar 2010 8:54 #
aristotle
Member

JI ka maqsad:

awam ko strikes par lagana aur karobar ka berre gark karana

go america go k narey lagana aur qazi hussain ki son ko with family USA me settle karana

Jehad Kashmir k naam par chanda jama karna aur is fund se apna aur apne jesey dosrey poor jamties ka cholha jalana

Dictators ki har illegal /ger aayene tarmeem ko manzoor karana

Har dictator ko support karna

har democratic party ki mukhalfiat karna

hatr policy se ikhtelaaf karna

sarey pakistanis ko daira islam se kharij karna (part time job)

Kufr aur indian agent honey k fatwey jari karna

har baat ko bidaat qarar dena

general elections ka boycott karna aur bye election me harna

Universities me gunda gardi karna, classes ka boycott karna, teachers ki insult karna, exams me naqal karna aur karana

Imran Khan ki university me pitayee karana

kisi dosri jaamt ko bardasht na karna

apne mufaad k ley har party se allaince karlena

Munafiqat ki tamam aala qadro ki pasdari karna

double standard maintain rakhna

etc, etc

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Mar 2010 11:25 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Itne sare ilzam lagane wale ka apna;

(1) kirdar kya hai ?
(2) chalan kya hai ?

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Mar 2010 11:42 #
aristotle
Member

ha ha ha

khisyani billi khamba nochay

kia ayenay me nazar ane wali soorat pasand nahi ayee:::::::::))))))))))))))))))

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Mar 2010 7:51 #
aristotle
Member

Eik aur baat batao in me se eik bhi baat ilzaam nahi

sab fact based info hay:)

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Mar 2010 7:54 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Accusations, allegations are only accepted or reviewed when the credibility of the one who is making those accusations, those allegations has been established. Not otherwise.

This is standard procedure. It is a measure to stop those miscreants who's intention is to make fun of justice system or those who implement justice system.

You are welcome to run from answering my questions. It will only cost you your credibility, your reputation. That's all.

Keep on with it.

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Mar 2010 8:45 #
skunkk
Member

haris bhai, Khudai ilhaam na hone ke bais main aap ki kirdaar kashi kerne se kaasir hun aur apna kirdaar aur chalan aap ko saabit kernay mein main koi dilchaspi nahi rakhta, raha sawaal ke mera muqaddar zillat hoga ya nahi, tou aap ka aur mera muqadar ik shair ne kya khoob kaha hai, mukhtasarn:

...

Aik Taraf Sachal aur Bahu
Aik Taraf Mulah Aur Maslak

Aik Taraf Thay Heer Aur Ranja
Aik Taraf Kazi Aur Jojhak

Aik Taraf Amlat Kay Dharay
Aik Taraf Thay Dharay Phiskay

Sari Dunya Pooch Rahi Thi
Bolo Ab Tum Saath Ho Kis Kay

..

Jeet Hamara Mustaqbil Hai
Jeet Hamara Mustaqbil Hai

Nazm ko kaatnay keliye maazrat, beherhaal mullah, maslak, qazi (aur munawar), chuchak aur aap jaisay bhish ke dhaaron ka anjaam taareeki se atta hua nazar aata hai. Niwishta deewar aap parh lete lekin shayad Khuda ne aap ke dilon per muharein laga dee hain, tou aapko samajh nahi aati.

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Mar 2010 16:06 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@skunk: Why do you talk in riddles ?

Why don't you come out with the point, with what's on your mind ?

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Mar 2010 18:10 #
skunkk
Member

@ haris:

why do you pretend that people are talking in riddles?

why do you so blatantly lie that people are not sticking to the topic being discussed when they are?

why do you accuse others of not answering the questions when you never bother them?

why is it that you will quote a newspaper and claim it to be a proof, and when we quote the same news paper it is not sufficient?

why do you wreak with double standards?

Do not bother, I know the answer to the above posed questions,
you do this because you hail from the most disgusting party there is in Pakistan, the party that traces its roots to those who built masjid e zarar and caused the first and second fitna.

ps: Since you do not understand plain poetry, I shall explain it to you, aap ka khyal ke zillat mera muqadar hai aap ka haq hai per mera ya mere hum soch logo ka muqaddar fatah hai, aap uss taraf hai jehan mullah, maslak, qazi, chochak aur bhish yaani zehar ki nadi hai, yani ke taqseem, nafratain,jang, zulm o jabr,

aur main jis nazariyay ka pairokar hu wahan amrit yaani shafaf aasmani pani hai, heer aur ranjha yani muhabbatain hain, aur sachal aur bahu yani deen ka baahimi mohabbat se farogh hai. Aur yehi woh quat hai jis ki fatah yaqeeni hai.

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Mar 2010 20:35 #
Shaheen-e-Iqbal
Member

@all and haris bhai specially for you.
Allow me to post this as I have noticed this on a thread and think it as a very good example to follow.

Rule number 1: You can criticize or appreciate any public figure, a political party or an institution meant for common good but absolutely no racist and ethnic hate comments.

I urge above should be remembered as a guide before commenting ...Like this we may be able to understand and respect each other more better as friends on this forum.

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Mar 2010 20:53 #
aristotle
Member

Bhai haris

kia Ji ki students tanzeem k larko ne university of Punjab me Imran Khan ko mara peeta nahi tha?

Kia qzai ne IK se maafi nahi mangee the is batameezi par?

kia ye sab bhi ilzaam hay ya haqeeqat ?????

Posted 2 years ago on 18 Mar 2010 6:33 #

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