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Kalabagh Dam a need of Citizens of Karachi.

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  1. Kalabagh Dam a need of Citizens of Karachi.

    Karachi a city where life has become miserable and painful due to shortage of electricity.

    Karachi is the largest city of Pakistan; but from last few years it has been the victim of chronic LOAD Shedding and shortage of electricity. As Karachi is known as the city of lights but due to shortage of electricity the city does not has that feature any more. We call ourselves as the Nuclear power but even then we don’t have Electricity.
    Disease of Provincialism in Politicians of MQM, Pukhtoon Khwa and Sindh is mainly responsible for power shortage mayhem and the resultant chaos in the society due to tormenting blackouts and long power outrages.

    Kalabagh and other dams versus other sources of Electricity.

    Kalabagh Dam:
    • Kalabagh and other dams are the only source of cheap electricity in Pakistan. Environment friendly Kalabagh will not only store water for the cultivation of land , but also will produce clean energy without carbon emission, by that electricity it will be possible to pump out under ground water which will also increase water resources and will store water for cultivation of land, Kalabagh Dam will increase wet land for fisheries, will increase green land which will be helpful in decreasing environmental carbon dioxide produce by coal and other fuels and will control flooding and erosion of land and will save lives and lands of people.

    Gas and Oil are not available.
    Because there is acute shortage of oil and gas in the country and due to high prices in the international markets it is not feasible to use these fuels for production of cheap electricity.

    Coal a source of Death.
    While it is very dangerous to use coal for generating electricity due to polluting effects of coal on atmosphere air, water and land resources, as it causes respiratory diseases including asthma and bronchitis, heart diseases and is the main source of global warming, and environmental pollution. It is also very costly from mining to processing and mining of even 10 Kg of hard stone like coal from earth is very energy and labor consuming, and is responsible for deaths of thousands of miners and common people due to environmental pollution in the world each year.
    Solar Energy and Wind Energy are not reliable and dependable sources of Electricity.
    It is also not possible to make electricity in sufficient amount through sunlight as in night and in early in the evening and morning the sunlight is not available, similarly through Wind energy it is also not possible to produce energy in sufficient amount as it continuously changes its direction and speed and some time there is totally no flow of air.
    Therefore Kalabagh and other dams are the only source of cheap electricity in Pakistan

    Importance of Electricity versus Wastage of Water for Feudals.
    Why opposition on generation of electricity by Kalabagh Dam in which no water is wasted but provides option of safe storage of water for future use. Electricity is the need of each and every minute and moment of human life, people can not tolerate outage of electricity for one hour while agriculture land can tolerate need of water even many weeks, but why importance to agriculture of few feudals and no importance to electricity which is the need of each and every citizens of Pakistan generally and Karachi specially, because life of all citizens of Karachi (city of lights and Industry) revolves around provision of cheap electricity.

    The Problems:
    As Electricity has become major source of energy and has very great effect on human life, life is almost impossible without it in the city like Karachi, as Karachi is the major source of Pakistan’s stock exchange, without electricity we not only can progress but also it would be reason of our downfall.
    The Karachi markets are now using generators, batteries and UPS, when there is no electricity in the markets people find it very uncomfortable and difficult even to breathe. And people sit there in the burning and harming environment. One can easily imagine how much it is harmful for physical and mental health of people.

    • Children weeps in the night due to high temperature in absence of electricity and mosquitoes bite due to outage of electricity, and deaths due to cases of malaria and **** fever are now common and so many people have died due to such cases, but ethnic and cruel politicians of Sindh, Pukhtoon Khwa and MQM do not have any mercy for them.

    • Students can not study in night due to outage of electricity and their performance is very much affected by the load shedding, but ethnic and cruel politicians of Sind, Pukhtoonkhwa and MQM do not have any mercy for them.

    • Industry can not run without electricity.
    • Machinery can not run without electricity.
    • Surgeons can not operate without electricity.
    • A patient on life machine can not survive without electricity.
    • Even in agriculture we can not use Tube well without electricity.
    • Fertilizer can not be manufactured without electricity.
    • Pesticide can not be manufactured without electricity.
    • Sugar Mills, Cotton Mills, Textiles Mills. Flour Mills, Rice Mills can not run without electricity.
    Above points clearly indicates that use of water for generation of electricity is 1000 times better than wastage of water on land or in sea for few feudals, because water wasted in land or sea is not recoverable but water use for generation of electricity in Kalabagh Dam will be available for use for agriculture and Industry as it was suitable before generation of electricity and there will be no wastage of water.

    The Promises:
    The people of Karachi are given dates on dates by different politicians. Our politicians come before seventeen crores public of Pakistan and there these people with loud voices make new promises. We people wait for that promise but at last promises don’t be any more and few days later another politician comes and a new promise is made. We people of Karachi just can do one thing and that is just listen to their promises and that is what we are doing for few years.
    Now recently the President of Pakistan said that we people would not have load shedding any more from the last December , that December and almost half year have gone, the people of Karachi are facing the same problem but infact load shedding has become worst.
    Sindh,Balochistan and Frontier are against Kalabagh.
    Because as per Sindh LOGIC Thar Coal is better than Kalabagh as Kalabagh will emit BLACK SMOKE and Thar Coal will emit fresh air full of Oxygen.
    And as per Balouchistan Vision GAS and coal extracted from Balouchistan are one of the most clean source of energy and Kalabagh will pollute air and land resources and people will drown in Kalabagh and no one is dying in the coal mines of Balochistan.
    And as per Pukhtoon Khwa wisdom, Royalty of Tarbella is so important that Pakistan can be broken for that and three rivers of Punjab can be sold to India by General Ayoub belonging from frontier for Construction of Tarbella in Frontier but Kalabgh dam is not good looking as it is in Punjab.
    All provinces want Provincial autonomy but Punjab should open or close its canals, IIRIGATE ITS LAND AND construct Dams as per desire of other provinces and after asking from other provinces Because it is necessary for unity and prosperity of Pakistan as when there will be no agriculture, no electricity and no water then Pakistan will be more united and more prosperous.
    From all above points it is clear that Puktoon Khwa , Sindh and MQM who are opposing the generation of electricity and preservation and safe storage of water in Kalabagh dam are criminals of humanity as well as of World and politicians of these provinces are mainly responsible for shortage of electricity in the country and cities.
    Written By:M.AKRAM.
    Karachi,Pakistan

    Posted 7 months ago on 03 Oct 2011 14:09 #
  2. Denial of cheap electricity to people of Karachi which is only possible from dams on rivers is unfair and will lead to destruction of Industry and loss of sources of income for people of Karachi.

    Posted 7 months ago on 04 Oct 2011 15:52 #
  3. spruce
    Member

    @m.Akram

    thank u for propaganda..against sindh and karachi and provoking people.

    Dams are need of time but make small dams no one have objection then why kala bag dam? where ppl have reservation.

    Posted 7 months ago on 04 Oct 2011 16:10 #
  4. expakistani
    Member

    Sorry Akram bhai.... people of karachi can live without electicity in karachi but people in ruler sindh cant live without indus water.

    So no to Kalabagh Dam.

    Posted 7 months ago on 04 Oct 2011 18:39 #
  5. Kala Bagh Dam and Karachi Electricity requirement are not Related in any point......The person who initiated this Thread should first check the Geography of Pakistan......Kala Bagh Dam was Suppose to built in KPK region Bordering Punjab and are miles away from Sindh or Karachi.....May be if Initiator of this thread change Karachi to Lahore, Faisalabad, Gujranwala and last but not least Sialkot then this thread looks Ok to me cause these above mentioned Cities are Industrial Hub of Pakistan and they required such Project Desperately in order to Fulfill their Demands around the World.....

    For Karachi the best OPTIONS available is from Baluchistan Region and especially Thar Coal project in Sindh.....Kala Bagh Dam is Controversial project by 3 Provinces in Pakistan while Thar Coal Project has no Controversy from any one but their are some Environmental issues that are needed to addressed but in Current scenario Thar Coal Project is the most IDEAL option for Pakistan to fulfill its requirement while keeping all Options open......

    Posted 7 months ago on 04 Oct 2011 18:56 #
  6. Cheap energy from Kalabagh Dam will be available to each and every citizen of Pakistan.

    Posted 7 months ago on 05 Oct 2011 7:00 #
  7. Thar coal smoke will cause heart diseases,respiratory diseases,and bronchitis and eye diseases in whole population of Pakistan.
    Thar coal will cause pollution of air by emmission of sulphur dioxide and carbon monooxide.
    Thar coal will deteriorate rivers,seas and land resources by emmission of lead and other heavy metals.

    Posted 7 months ago on 05 Oct 2011 12:14 #
  8. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    Anything done good at any part of Pakistan benefits all the citizens of Pakistan. Similarly, anything done bad at any part of Pakistan damages the interests of all the citizens of Pakistan.

    Posted 7 months ago on 05 Oct 2011 13:03 #
  9. Pakistan is not just a need of Karachiets only

    But

    It's need of the hour...!

    Only the Clueless may resist it

    Posted 7 months ago on 05 Oct 2011 13:06 #
  10. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    Aay Khokar

    Pakistan is the need of all the Pakistanis indeed! You are absolutely right!

    Posted 7 months ago on 05 Oct 2011 13:54 #
  11. If we will remain sitting by keeping hand on hand then in future we should remain ready for more floods, draughts and black out.Blocking any clean project of energy versus any dirty coal project is infact enemity with humanity.

    Posted 7 months ago on 07 Oct 2011 13:17 #
  12. But what I wrote was;

    Kalbagh dam is not just a need of Karachiets only

    It's need of the hour...!

    Only the Clueless may resist it

    Posted 7 months ago on 08 Oct 2011 0:03 #
  13. Enemies of Pakistan are against each and every project such as
    Wali khan was opponent of Silk Route a link between China and Pakistan.
    Jeay Sindh is opposed to Kokhrapar link road between India and Pakistan.
    Insugents in Balouchistan are opposed to Gas Pilpelines even from Iran and are against development of Guwadour ports.
    All above facts indicates that enemies of Pakistan are united on single point agenda and that is not to allow any project in Pakistan which lead towards development and progress and that is the reason they oppose Kalabagh dam.

    Posted 7 months ago on 08 Oct 2011 5:44 #
  14. The Energy Crisis

    Economic prosperity and population growth over the last half century have been sustained in large part by the access to relatively cheap energy and by an elevated capacity to produce food. But, the age of cheap energy is about to end, and this basic source of economic growth will disappear, unless some untapped cheap oil discoveries come to the rescue.

    If the age of cheap energy is coming to an end, can the Pakistan and Karachi economy continue to support a fast rate of population growth? This is unlikely.

    Already, we observe a reemergence of hegemonic wars for oil and resources in some parts of the world that can be explained, at least partly, by the looming energy crisis.

    Not surprisingly, the city of Karachi, with less than Ten percent of the Pakistan population while consuming about 25 percent of the daily energy output, is at the center of this crisis and projects like Basha and Kalabagh Dam can counter such crises.

    Posted 7 months ago on 10 Oct 2011 8:49 #
  15. The Energy Crisis

    Economic prosperity and population growth over the last half century have been sustained in large part by the access to relatively cheap energy and by an elevated capacity to produce food. But, the age of cheap energy is about to end, and this basic source of economic growth will disappear, unless some untapped cheap oil discoveries come to the rescue.

    If the age of cheap energy is coming to an end, can the Pakistan and Karachi economy continue to support a fast rate of population growth? This is unlikely.

    Already, we observe a reemergence of hegemonic wars for oil and resources in some parts of the world that can be explained, at least partly, by the looming energy crisis.

    Nobody can deny that oil access under American control played an important role in the Bush-Cheney decision to launch an unprovoked war against Iraq in the spring of 2003. Similarly, the recent Anglo-French involvement in Libya, under the cover of NATO, had something to do with Libyan oil riches.
    Not surprisingly, the city of Karachi, with less than Ten percent of the Pakistan population while consuming about 25 percent of the daily energy output, is at the center of this crisis and projects like Basha and Kalabagh Dam can counter such crises.

    Posted 7 months ago on 10 Oct 2011 8:52 #
  16. Kalabagh has become a symbol of victimization of people of Punjab and Karachi by politicians of three provinces.

    Posted 7 months ago on 10 Oct 2011 14:10 #
  17. With dams we achieve multiple advantages like electricity. water and promotion of agriculture while oil ,petrol,coal, and wind energy on one side give electricity and other side shower pollution and diseases.

    Posted 7 months ago on 14 Oct 2011 7:29 #
  18. Due to non availability of water and electricity in Karachi,Industrial Progress of Karachi and social progress of its citizens is in geopardy and its every citizen just want to go any other country.

    Posted 7 months ago on 15 Oct 2011 13:32 #
  19. The chief of ANP discuss a private gathering that we as party didn't opposed Kalabagh Dam and we know the important of it but if we agree to construct of Kalabagh Dam then its means that we replicate our bags and go back to our home.

    Posted 7 months ago on 15 Oct 2011 13:52 #
  20. If its an disputed issue which we all know very well that it is,then i say leave it and find any other alternative rather then fighting over it for another 64 years....

    Posted 7 months ago on 15 Oct 2011 14:01 #
  21. Kalabagh Dam infact will be a source of clean energy, specially for urban population of Pakistan.

    Posted 6 months ago on 29 Oct 2011 12:12 #
  22. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    Gulfs of trust among our Pakistani brethren belonging to different provinces have gone very wide. Only a competent national leader can solve these problems. Unfortunately, we don't have any leader of the national level. All our politicians are ethnic, provincial, linguistic and sectarian based. The superficial leaders can't solve even minor problems let alone major problems.

    Posted 6 months ago on 29 Oct 2011 12:17 #
  23. Only cheap and abundance of electricity can make Karachi a prosperous city.

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 12:53 #
  24. expakistani
    Member

    Karachi needs power plant so do other parts of Pakistan but not by dividing sindh in two.

    How about Nuke power plant near Thatta or Badin or Hub? or re building KANUP ( or what ever we have near karachi)

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 13:15 #
  25. Is thar coal electricity not cheaper than KB dam provided we include construction cost as well? Why our Ex.PM stopped project in 1998? Why not we are investing in Nuclear power? Why some people are insisting on a contraversial project??

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 13:23 #
  26. PAKISTANI 47
    Dirty Coal as a source of Death.
    While it is very dangerous to use coal for generating electricity due to polluting effects of coal on atmosphere air, water and land resources, as it causes respiratory diseases including asthma and bronchitis, heart diseases and is the main source of global warming, and environmental pollution. It is also very costly from mining to processing and mining of even 10 Kg of hard stone like coal from earth is very energy and labor consuming, and is responsible for deaths of thousands of miners and common people due to environmental pollution in the world each year,DEATH of coal miners is a routine phenomena and even yesterday several miners about 40 have died in China.

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 13:51 #
  27. Then why our great scientist Samar sahib insisting on its usefulness.

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 13:53 #
  28. Nuclear power may be a very good source of energy but it can cause serious radiation leakage, More over world will never ever help us in nuclear energy, there fore energy from dams is the most cheaper and feasible source of energy and this thing has proved in past by energy generation from Tarbella and Mangla.

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 13:55 #
  29. I am sorry you do not know about it. Samar sahib is working on Thar coal project and he is very active advocate of it.

    ISLAMABAD: Scientist Dr. Samar Mubarakmand has said that only Thar Coal can provide guaranteed long term energy security to Pakistan’s industrial competitiveness, due to its cost effectiveness.

    He stated this while briefing the National Assembly Standing Committee on Inter Provincial Coordination, which met held here on Friday under the chairmanship of Mir Ahmedan Khan Bugti.

    Dr. Samar Mubarakmand informed the Committee that the current energy crisis was causing Rs 230 billion loss and making 400,000 people jobless.

    According to PEPCO “our energy demand by the year 2030 will be more than 100,000 MW “.

    He said that the total power generation capacity of the country on coal based was 2.27 per cent while India had 64.6 per cent . In this situation, Thar Coal would play a pivotal role in meeting this energy crisis both in long and short term. The Coal should be declared a matter of national security of strategic important so that donors and multilateral invest more, he added.

    He said that Thar lignite coal reserves were 175 billion tons spread over 9600 Sq.Km, having generation potential of 100,000 MW consuming 536 million tones / year. These reserves are equivalent to 50 billion tone of oil, which are more than Iran and Saudi Arabia combined oil reserves or over 2000 TCF of gas (42 times greater than total gas reserves discovered in Pakistan so far).

    http://www.dawn.com/2011/10/02/thar-coal-guarantees-energy-security-dr-samar.html

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 14:00 #
  30. Pakistani 47.
    Mr.Samar Mubarak is doing only experimental work and his success could not be forcasted, because it is mission impossible to contain contamination of atmosphere from gases of coal, he doen not know the pros and cons and deadly effects becuse he is working on engineering side of the problem while the medical side is totally ignored.

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 14:02 #
  31. Dr.Samar Mubarak has not obtained medical education, they also used to show exagerrated advantages of nuclear energy in 70,s but where those advantages in today life.

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 14:06 #
  32. To protect our homeland and people from adverse effects of coal and its poisioneous gases it will be better to keep safe these reserves for the future when any very extra-ordinary technology will be available for such reserve. first of all we should use clean water resources like Kalabagh and Basha.

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 14:09 #
  33. bsobaid
    Member

    Dam is needed not only for electricity purposes but also to stop floods as weather in this part of the world has dramatically changed for good due to global warming.

    Kalabagh is a sensitive issue but now that weather have changed and and there is no shortage of water all the way downstream, why dont build a dam downstream in Sindh rather than Punjab?

    Diamir Bhasha dam was once again inaugarated by nesti mara Gilani. I hope this time it sees completion.

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 14:20 #
  34. Mr.bsobaid.
    Why Kalabagh Dam is best?
    Because this is the only point in the Indus River basin where river Indus enters from Hilly land to Plain land of Indus basin.

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 14:25 #
  35. expakistani
    Member

    @M.AKRAM
    by putting Kalabagh Dam, Sindh going to be dependent on Punjab. Trust is the issue here.... people in sindh dont want to have dam just bcz they cant trust on Punjab.

    Am i wrong with my logic...?

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 14:38 #
  36. Expakistani
    Politicians who are dependent on ethnic politics have always damaged Pakistan

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 14:40 #
  37. bsobaid
    Member

    So if kala bagh is this important and Sindh cant trust Punjab then there is no problem getting United Nations to broker it and get guarantees.

    We have hit a deadlock and it is hurting us. We should not shy from taking any step to resolve this issue, even if it causes us an emabarrasement.

    Posted 6 months ago on 01 Nov 2011 14:46 #
  38. Politicians of Sindh do not have any right to comment or dictate or veto any project in any other province,it is violation of authority of Punjab.

    Posted 6 months ago on 02 Nov 2011 6:09 #
  39. This discussion seems to be KB vs Thar coal, the reality whereas is that although there are advantages & disadvantages for both, both of them alongwith other energy projects are essential for the economy (lifeline) of Pakistan. Every single project capable of cheap energy MUST be completed on war footings.
    Everyone of us needs to be thinking above provincial spectrum (both Punjab & other provinces)to solve these issues.

    World is moving very fast & energy requirements are multiplying with it. With IPP, RPP & other such energy solutions we are simply doomed. No business can run without being cost effective (look at the public sector organizations like railway, PIA, steel mills, FBR, Pepco) their corrupt & incompetent management is responsible as well as our corrupt & selfish polititians for the situation we are in. Soon, our private sector will also bear the same burden due to their incompetence & failure to plan & implement proper solutions. What we can expect from our polititians & corrupt beuraucracy is solutions like RPPs.

    So, bottomline is that we "THE PPL OF PAKISTAN" have to stop being puppets of polititians as we are the ones who are ultimate losers. We have to think as a nation & force our polititians to stop being selfish.
    Neither beuraucracy not polititians will be found in this country once the economy fails, they all will flee before we even know. Time is reaching fast when our economy will be doomed unless we take protective measures immediately.

    Think!

    Posted 6 months ago on 02 Nov 2011 11:43 #
  40. Rizwan Qaimkhani
    Member

    I am seeing this useless propaganda going on for long where Mr.Akram is trying to make KalaBagh Dam Karachi's problem. Kalabagh Dam if there ever will be will profit Punjab dearly and probably NWFP but not Karachi. First the proximity second different administration count. It will come under WAPDA and correct me if I am wrong WAPDA does not supply electricity in Karachi, it is KESC. It generates and transmit its own electricity to consumers and industries alike within the confines of Karachi.
    http://www.kesc.com.pk/en/section/futurekarachi/energyinpakistan

    So Mr. Akram, best advise to you is: do research first before posting some propaganda that has no merit. To heell with Kalabagh dam thats all if I care.

    Posted 6 months ago on 02 Nov 2011 12:08 #
  41. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Now a punjabi niazi is telling the karahchities that whats in their favour :)

    Posted 6 months ago on 02 Nov 2011 12:49 #
  42. Rizwan Qaimkhani
    Member

    I did not mean any disrespect to anyone. It is like maligning a good cause. If Kalabagh dam is built, it would profit the agglomeration of economies such as Faisalabad, Gujranwala and Sialkot, those are industrial hubs of Pakistan and to compete on international level the need is undeniable. But painting it as Karachi's problem, I mean C'mon, how stupic you think I am.

    Niazis are very hardworking folks, in fact, one of my excellent friend is Niazi, so my response to you was not in lieu of some racial hatred:)

    Posted 6 months ago on 02 Nov 2011 12:57 #
  43. @M.AKRAM

    Who you trying to fool here?

    Posted 6 months ago on 02 Nov 2011 13:48 #
  44. This is sad that despite high costs & huge power shortages, we as a nation are not able to foresee our future. I have a question for all my brothers who oppose KB.

    Have we really been able to take one proper step forward in eliminating power shortages in last five years?

    The answer is a big NO.

    By making cheap energy projects like KB & thar coal we may survive (economy) as our demands are increasing fast as compared to production capacities (including new projects). However, by failing to do such projects what will be aour future beyond 2015??

    This is a big question & we as a nation have to look for an answer. Dont make KB but do we have a workable solution to our power & water needs??
    Also keep in mid that KB can be operational in less than five years & is the earliest possible project to be completed.

    THINK again & again.

    Posted 6 months ago on 03 Nov 2011 14:14 #
  45. Rizwan and sweet truth I think you dont know that Karachi is connected with national grid and electricity produced by KESC from gas and oil is not sufficient and very very costly and environment polluting,and like other areas of Pakistan load shedding in Karachi is very painful,Chronic load shedding is going on in Karcahi specially in Korangi Industrial area,S.I.T.E, and North Karcahi Industrial area, and Hub Chowki.
    Citizens of Karachi depends more vitally on electricty than other areas of Pakistan,There fore dams are must and like oxygen for people of Karachi, while representatives of Karachi like MQM is showing criminal negligence in this regard.

    Posted 6 months ago on 03 Nov 2011 14:35 #
  46. Please keep in mind that it's not only about producing electricity rather producing it cheaply too.

    Although thar coal can fulfil our energy requirements (ignoring pollution & other factors), it will take at least a decade to utilise it effectively considering "no delays". This timeline is based on good law & order situation in the area & non stop funding. On the other hand if we start KB & thar coal, we can see improvement in two to three years. Besides, that coal cannot store water. Water shortage is also a serious problem for ppl of Pakistan. Almost 80% increase in water charges for Karachi should be an eye opener.

    Posted 6 months ago on 03 Nov 2011 14:48 #
  47. Rizwan Qaimkhani
    Member

    @M.Akram
    Sir, point duly noted that electricity is the necessity regardless where you look. You need to understand the cost involve in transmitting electricity from KalaBagh is enormous if compared to electricity produced at those Nuclear Site close to Hawks Bay or using Thar Coal though coal is no longer considered green energy source but that should be left for another debate. You are right that everything is connected somehow but economy does not allow it due to its efficiency and the associate cost. Because WAPDA would not charge only for power generation, it would also table the bill for transmission charges. That will render it not very feasible

    Posted 6 months ago on 03 Nov 2011 15:40 #
  48. @TruePakistani and Rizwan Qaimkhani,
    Agreed 100% with you brothers.

    Posted 6 months ago on 03 Nov 2011 17:48 #
  49. Mr. Rizwan electricity is transmitted very easily from one place to another without any significant loss and cost,it does not requires trucks or railways or pressure as in case of coal,oil and gas.

    Posted 6 months ago on 04 Nov 2011 12:53 #
  50. @M.AKRAM

    Why didn't your favourite leader Gen Zia build Kalabagh dam?

    Posted 6 months ago on 04 Nov 2011 14:32 #

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