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Kashmala Tariq VS Hanif Abassi

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  1. iamsowise

    PMLN member Hanif Abassi should resigned for using abusive language

    &

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 14:04 #
  2. netengr

    Bohat hi ghatiay zaban hay ,Zaleel Aadmi ....

    Decent use of language is advised

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 14:09 #
  3. kq

    Firdous Ashiq Awan didn't resign, why would Hanif Abbasi bother doing that. Though i have to say Kashmala was interrupting him to much, the host should have stopped her, but still Abbasi should have kept his cool.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 14:11 #
  4. netengr

    Hanif Abbasi is also Ex Jamatia

    http://www.pakistanileaders.com.pk/profile/Muhammad_Hanif_Abbasi

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 14:18 #
  5. netengr

    The topic was terrorism and Hanif Abbasi trying to change this and started personal attack and cheap languages

    Well trained by JI ,PML-N should eliminate these kind of people who has hidden agendas of JI

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=11668

    Tuesday, December 11, 2007

    By Muhammad Anis

    ISLAMABAD: In a major change in Rawalpindi's politics, Hanif Abbasi, a local leader of the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) is all set to join the Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) today (Tuesday).

    Hanif Abbasi who is also a member of the Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) would contest general elections for the National Assembly on ticket of the PML-N against Sheikh Rashid Ahmad from NA-56. Abbasi was elected to the National Assembly in bye-election from the same constituency with convincing majority against Sheikh Rashid Shafique.

    The sources said the central parliamentary board of PML-N meeting in Islamabad today (Tuesday) would formally announce award of party ticket from NA-56 to Hanif Abbasi. It has been learnt that JI central leadership in a last-ditch effort tried to convince Hanif Abbasi to change his decision but his response was not encouraging. A JI delegation also failed to convince Abbasi to reverse his decision of changing loyalties.

    JI Amir Punjab and MMA deputy secretary general Liaquat Baloch when contacted by 'The News' said he himself talked to Hanif Abbasi asking him to follow the decision of the Jamaat. Baloch said Hanif Abbasi was of the view that the Jamaat-e-Islami should not boycott elections. "I told him the JI decision to boycott the elections is final," Baloch said.

    Meanwhile, divisional parliamentary board of PML-N Monday announced issuing of party tickets to its candidates for national and provincial assemblies for general elections 2008 except from NA-54 and NA-56.

    Talking to a group of journalists at the PML-N Secretariat on Monday, PML-N leader Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan said that from NA 55 Makhdoom Javed Hashmi, PP-11 Zia Ullah Shah, PP-12 Shahriyar Riaz, NA-51 Chaudhry Riaz, NA 52-53 Chaudhry Nisar, NA-50 Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, NA 60-61 Faiz Taman, NA-59 Malik Aftab, NA 58 Malik Sohail will contest elections on PML-N ticket.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 14:23 #
  6. Right, if abbasi has to resign for this, then firdaus ashiq should probably be hanged for what she said.

    And kashmala was interrupting him, but even then he should have refrained from such remarks. People have been repeating it for years 'amirr ki ghod main palnay walay' so maybe in the frustration he said that without realizing that he is talking to a woman.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 14:25 #
  7. Anyway, what is the story behind how she got PML Q's ticket?

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 14:27 #
  8. netengr

    aisay logon ka "Islam " pata chal jata hay jab yeh aurat ki "Respect " kertay hain .

    Mukhtara mai case bhi aisay hi paindo mentality ki aik example hay

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 14:57 #
  9. Salam

    There is something about this lady that two MNAs have spoken about it so confidently in public.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 15:12 #
  10. @ netengr

    Remember what the great secular leader musharaf said about mukhtara mai?

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 15:25 #
  11. netengr

    How about is some one says some thing about Tehmina doltana ,baigam najma hameed or Qazi hussain's Daughter ??

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 16:00 #
  12. zingaro

    I am agreed with netengr ..just one thing that ..netengr should answer the question of UmeR that how did this lady got ticket of Q-league. Although I hate PML-N but know the fact that Tehmina, Najma Hameed are well known political workers.

    netengr ...don't mind .. be specific to the question ...

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 16:07 #
  13. netengr

    @zingaro

    Personally I do not really care about how she got PML-Q ticket again this is her personal mater .

    going directly some one's character is very cheap tactics ,Specially disrespect a women and using bazari language on Media should be discourage .
    Hanif Abbasi paindo Jihadi say yehi cheez expect ki ja sakti hay

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 16:55 #
  14. GOOGLE

    Hanif Abbasi shouldn't use such remarks and should apologize for his abusive words.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 17:25 #
  15. This 5 Minutes episode is enough to understand the direction, Pakistan is heading towards.

    Parliamentarians lack etiquette and aptitude to discuss an issue at a Public Forum, in a decent way.

    Common sense guides to feel, that at this particular show, Mr. Hanif Abbasi was guilty.

    There was no reason to get personal where he had more impressive arguments to make his case.

    At the Pkpolitics Forum, at this stage, it is irrelevant to investigate, how Kaskmala Tariq got the Ticket to contest the Election.
    This could be the repetition of what Mr. Hanif Abbasi did.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 17:57 #
  16. SufiSoul

    Democratic system is expected to result the same calibar's leadership...
    And why ppl should critise kash mush.
    The system requires the same type of ppl to run..
    How can we expect democracy for good leadership to be produced...

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 19:36 #
  17. zia m

    It is not the fault of the democratic system if we don't have any regard for decency.
    I remember George Allen was a Virginia governor and senator who was supposed to be a leadng contender for presidential elections untill he used a racial slur on an Indian guy.That incident ruined his career.
    I'm not a fan of Kashmala but this shows the mindset of our educated class.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 20:21 #
  18. Anonymous

    Whatever the reasons may be, no one can justify how Hanif Abbasi behaved with a woman.

    Hanif Abbasi ne apna hee munh kala kia hai.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 20:29 #
  19. msohail83

    Ridiculous behavior in live talk shows broadcast nationwide. Rgardless of her background, viewers deserve respect.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Jan 2010 1:48 #
  20. mariabashir

    faujion ki god lol
    well she shouldnot kave interrupted the imbecile: she did and she reaped!
    anyway can anybody tell me wats the relationship of hers with Humayon akhter ?????

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Jan 2010 3:01 #
  21. zingaro

    Gusy .. You should always remember that whoever becomes in politics and claims to be a public representative, must be ready for complete postmortem of his/her personality, life and every thing. There is no space available to say that something is personal and something official. Even people of Pakistan have right to ask any public rep any question as it is public's money which is spent on such reps.

    Secondly we don't need any person whose character can not be justified or he/she lacks moral values. This is as per constitution and not merely my own wish.

    This lady Kish has no political background and she was "brought" in assembly by the "selection committee" of Musharraf. She was part of the glamorous wave which Mush introduced in the then Assemblies.

    I think such an episode is good for public to know the real character of the people sitting in assemblies. Remember we need reps having high moral character and not of loose characters, corrupt in any sense. Otherwise things will never change.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Jan 2010 16:08 #
  22. zingaro

    And if someone thinks that there should be some concession for these people, then there is a verse:

    Jis ko ho jaan-o-dil azeez uski gali mein jaaey kion ???

    :)

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Jan 2010 16:09 #
  23. iffisaghar

    although kashmala was interupting him too much during his turn....kashmala's behaviour also was not encouraging but still i agree that hanif abbasi used a bad language.
    he should appologize from kashmala at earliest.
    abbasi would be more honoured if he does so.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Jan 2010 16:43 #
  24. expakistani

    Kashmala tariq is good for some PTV darma... how the hell she got in NA of Pakistan...
    nothing wrong what Abbasi said about her....

    eventhough i dont like this Abbasi guy....kesi sharif urat ke lieay esi zaban use kerna achi baat nhi but its OK
    for kashmala type urat

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Jan 2010 20:03 #
  25. azeem20

    i was not expectig this from hanif abbasi. he was behaving like munda from dhok ratta. is this what he has learnt being a parlimentarian?
    i wonder every politician in pakistan think he is representing people of pakistan and awami numaenda. if they are awami numaenda, then why they are using bullet proof jackets. why they are in bunkers.
    rubbish.
    samsam was enjoying first and then tried to be a decent by advicing both of them. if he is such a thorough gentleman why he a member of cabinat whose member firdous ashiq showed her jahalat in another live show. samsam should resign from that cabinat coz there is some fat cow sittting who doesnt know how to speak in live shows. and then should advice the co parlimentarians.
    hanif abbasi learn to behave and talk to ladies please.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Jan 2010 20:21 #
  26. jaypk

    faujion ki godh main is nuthin...ashiq awan said tht..bedroom or sumthin....anyways...the thing is..i think kashmala is being guilty of all tht..and thts y she nevr showed any reaction on all tht..besides i dn know the story but thts whd it looks like...it coud be rong...if thrs is nuthin thn she has to show a reaction..waisay bhee aj kal ADALATEIN AZAAD HEIN.and on the other hand even if she was introduced by the glamorous wave and doesnt know much abt politics..deos tht justufy all the other illiterates and angootha chaaps and ppl who slaps journalists in public and other jahil paindu ganwaars...they are all the same..if doltanas and arbabs can slap others and misbehave thn whds rong with kashmala...imran khan was a play boy...most of the moulvis had a blur past..most of the MNAs characters are dodgy..sheikh rasheed was notorious for reema....so deos tht mean you can come on a public show and ripping off sumones clothes..especially a lady..?

    Posted 4 years ago on 04 Jan 2010 9:57 #
  27. Raza76

    I dont think anyone on this site has means to prove anything about Kashmala. So, from the outset I can say, Abbasi has used wrong language, and should be sorry for that.

    At the same time I agree with Zingaro, If someone has proof ie video tape, etc. Than there is nothing personal left, these guys who are presenting our nation must be model. And we have to inqurie all aspects of their lives.

    Remember guys, things done in private do have bearing on our action in public, eg Yahya Khan, which runing the country while sleeping in the beds with diffrent ladies..

    Posted 4 years ago on 04 Jan 2010 10:55 #
  28. anyway the whole conversation was pathetic and it gives the impression what is the caliber of people who are making policies for us. Look at their language and manners how to talk but the fun part in all this thread is that even in this situation netengr have found some link with JI. lolz keep it up.

    Posted 4 years ago on 05 Jan 2010 13:19 #
  29. New Dawn

    all those people who keep using the refrain "paindu" show their ignorance and low calibre as well lack of intellectual maturity.

    just because someone comes from the countryside doesn't mean he is rude or backward. historically some of our greatest thinkers poets and intellectuals have been "paindus".

    Posted 4 years ago on 05 Jan 2010 21:00 #
  30. KHAN_Sahib

    I disagree with any one who thinks that Abbassi was wrong. Kashmala is a very irritating woman politician who never STOPS intrrepting in any programme she usually participates. She has no sense and have shown lack of maturity and self respect. Why won't u let other person finish his point rather then interfering in every sentence.

    How did she got her ticket? People who thinks that a good character is not required for politicians are the responsible people of our political prostitution. Isn't it sad that President of United states lost his job for a sexual scandal and he was name and shamed on every channel but our learned scholar don't want the same rule applied to our politicians. If you have a Governor who has been involved in Murder and kidnapping, a CM who is involved in drinking, Prostitution and raping, an SHO who is involved in protecting the criminals, then my dear friends.... the Problem is not the system but its you and your way of thinking which is bringing us down... I am surprised with the dual standards noticed on this forum.

    Saying that, i have not seen or listened to any decent politician these days who knows the art of debate.... I would say, some bunch of losers we have in our politics.

    Posted 4 years ago on 05 Jan 2010 22:16 #
  31. mariabashir

    what about the news that she splashed a glass full of water on to abbasi during recordings?

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 4:41 #
  32. i think kashmala got what she deserved.

    what Hanif abbassi said shouldn't be taken literally rather that was a proverb.

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 5:52 #
  33. Beenai

    koi kisi se kam nahin,,,
    when it comes to word brawls.

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 6:07 #
  34. netengr

    Those who are supporting Hanif abbasi can watch this program with their families ?

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 6:11 #
  35. Beenai

    a wrong practice has been started up after the popularity of these kinda talk shows ...they are live ..so anybody can say anything and director cant help it .
    unfortunately ,most of our political leaders are simply illiterate or ignorant ...
    they only know ,how to talk to the subordinates ...
    so they talk in the same tone.

    no excuse for Abbasi to be insulting with a lady .
    whatever her repu is ...

    anchors can play a major role in controlling this Toofan e Badtameezi .

    but unfortunately ,most of them ,have seen enjoying the word brawls while smiling to the camera ,terming it the hot episode of their show .

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 6:58 #
  36. zingaro

    Well actually the problem is that Hanib Abbasi used some proverbs in response of Kish. It was not Hanif Abbasi but Kish's own reputation that people took it in the wrong way otherwise if for example there was Mr. Kamil Agha sitting in the show and Hanif Abbasi had said:

    "Kaun Faujion ko god mein jaa betha"
    "Aap apnay greban mein jhank kay dekhein..."

    I believe none of above would have objected on the show.But as Kish was already labeled with such things by PPP insane Dr. Firdous, hence now every body looks Kish with the same binoculars.

    @netengr ..really if you are talking about the normal families they will also not take it wrong unless someone actually knows about Kish and her last episode with Firdous Ashiq.

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 7:09 #
  37. KHAN_Sahib

    @Netgrr..

    I thought u were urdu speaking or atleast know urdu better! If you can't understand the difference between a proverb and an insult then I suggest that you to consult someone who knows urdu.

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 15:48 #
  38. netengr

    @Khan_Sahib

    Why Wasi Zafer was criticized ?,He also used some "proverbs " and performed "ball tempering" in front of Camera :)

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 16:58 #
  39. jaypk

    i think if i have to give a proverb..i ll better think if i m giving it to a gentlemen or a lady....!! anyways..mr abbasi aaj kal kuch ziyada he jaldee OFF ho jaatay hain...chek his attitude...in every program...i think he had enuff defendin NS and criticizing PPP...!! and plz dnt talk abt firdous ashiq awan....she is the most pathetic workers PP has ever nominated...even farzana raja is way better then her..!!

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 21:32 #
  40. Gujjar Talwar

    Hanif Abbasi got carried away. His choice of words was not appropriate when he was making a point against PMLQ, while his counterpart was a Lady Parliamentarian. I think he should apologize.

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 21:33 #
  41. netengr
    '
    Why Wasi Zafer was criticized ?,He also used some "proverbs " and performed "ball tempering" in front of Camera :)
    '

    Wasi zafar didn't use any proverb rather misunderstood the english phrase 'Big Arm of the Law' used by Ansar Abbasi and threatened him on air.

    I think some of my dear fellows here are behaving like wasi zafar :)

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 22:07 #
  42. New Dawn

    Kashmala Tariq is notorius in the press for her police cases against a man, Mian Wahidudin, who is more than seventy years of age, with whom she had a relationship which lead to her getting nomination for the reserved seats in 2002. First case involved a piece of land which was given to her for some reason and then taken back. The second case involved a land cruiser, which also was given to her by the same man, and to claim which, he burst into her home with armed guards to take back. Despite being a married mother, she is nowadays linked to another failed politician, Humayun Akhtar who was instrumental in getting her nominated into parliament in 2008 on reserved seats again, however since the politician’s own clout has diminished due to his defeat in the 2008 elections, he was unable to save her from being expelled from PML-Q, the party on whose ticket she made her backdoor entry into parliament. Her expulsion from PML-Q also means the ticket on which she is in parliament will become vacant in order for PML-Q to nominate a fresh candidate in Kashmala’s place.

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 22:25 #
  43. New Dawn

    Kashmala tarik came into politics on a reserved seat for women. she is not elected. she came into politics through her “friendship” with humuyun akhtar.
    that’s why she has to put up with these allegations that she came into politics via the bedroom.

    she was a bigtime mouth piece for musharraf in his campaign against the judges. she is a political low life.

    listen to her attacking the judges on a platform in the usa where she had gone to promote musharraf’s actions against the judiciary.

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 22:26 #
  44. Gujjar Talwar

    I am not a Q- or N-leaguer and do not support any particular party at the moment. Just trying to say that political discourse should be civil. If Wasi Zafar slipped or Dr Awan used an uncivil phrase, it does not justify that it is now ok for everyone to do that.

    Our politics is not that great but I don't buy the idea that Kashmala became a Parliamentarian just because of some underhand influence. There is a lot of competition for these prized places and it is especially hard when the electorate is limited to the elected members of Parliament.

    Kashmala seems to be well educated and presentable. She has worked at S.M. Zafar's law firm and I would assume she has some genuine political pull.

    But all this is besides the point. No matter what skeletons are there in Kashmala's closet, Hanif is not justified for his crude words. I give credit to Kashmala for being smart about her protest. She left the show but did not retaliate with ****-for-tat uncivil language.

    I don't think apology should be looked at as a weakness or defeat. Hanif will look better if he takes responsibility for his slip and go for an apology.

    Posted 4 years ago on 06 Jan 2010 23:57 #
  45. gujjartalwar
    whats about the uncivilized behaviour of kahsmala where she was consistently interrupting Mr.Abbasi ?

    Whats her political background ? Whats her constitunecy ?

    She got elected on reserved seat on Q-Leauge ticket and now sitting in Ham-Khiyal and accuses others like Dr.Firdous or Hanif Abbasssi of being lotta who changed party prior to elections ?

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 0:41 #
  46. KHAN_Sahib

    lol @ netgrrr aka wasi zafar
    Agree with Asif...
    Wasey, Ball tempering is illegal! LOL
    or atleast in front of every one!

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 0:49 #
  47. expakistani

    @netengr

    "ball tempering" in front of Camera :)
    now this time make me LOL.

    good one dude!!!
    ---------------------------------------------

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 1:53 #
  48. Beenai

    i agree with Zingaro ...
    its most of repu of her character ...
    and less of Hanif Abbasi ...

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 5:17 #
  49. netengr

    Then Imran Khan's private life should also be discussed

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 5:59 #
  50. NetEngr,

    I think u entirely missed the point. What Mr.Abbassi said was about her political life not personal.

    Although , in principal , all public figures are always under public scruitny.

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 6:31 #
  51. netengr

    Hanif Abbasi ki Maan , behnon aur bachon nay jab yeh programe daikha hoga tou Hafiz abbsi say bari khush hue hongay aur Mubarak baad di hogi ...

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 6:34 #
  52. Salam

    hanif abbasi is becoming like another sheikh rashid... there was a time when sheeda talli used to make these kinds of controversial remarks...

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 6:38 #
  53. zingaro

    I was reading in today's paper and someone wrote that Kish threw the glass full of water on Hanif Abbasi and then left the show ...

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 9:18 #
  54. hahah itni sharam Kashmala ko nahin aayi jitni netengr ko aayi hai..

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 10:06 #
  55. zjshami

    A male, holding a responsible position, should be careful about his language, even if he is facing a prostitute in front of a public camera.
    I am surprised to read some of the comments at this topic justifying the behavior of Mr. Abbasi, what should have been unanimously condemned.

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 11:42 #
  56. Adonis

    The lap "sitting in dictator's lap" has been used dozens of time against Q leaguers in TV programs, including both male and female Q leaguers like Marvi memon. All of them took it as a general phrase and not as attack on personal character.

    Seems like Kashmala Tariq took the phrase too literally. Perhaps a case of "chor ki darhi main tinka"?

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 12:38 #
  57. Very right Adonis.

    She wants to be in headlines.

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 14:04 #
  58. Very well said. Chor ki darhi main tinka!

    A pros knows who she is and what she has become regardless of circumstances, favourable or not. During this process she has lost all that is except being 'an object for sale'. Even being one and aware of reality she will not bear to be addressed as one, But Kashmala Tariq is not one of them, or shall we say 'God knows' and not members like you and me.

    However Kashmala Tariq should have been treated as a respectable woman, even though she is provocative, interruptive, than what! Hanif Abbasi could have kept his cool, that he did not and therefore not worth as a man but less than a woman as per his behaviour.

    Posted 4 years ago on 07 Jan 2010 18:15 #

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