"The ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen." - Winston Churchill (quality of a politician)
Zoab Khan
Asma Sherazi had this guy on the show. I was so surprised that every guest and every person sitting in the crowd were all of the views that spot fixing was a sazish against Pakistan....
But what really annoyed me and showed this guys true character was, when a person from the crowd started praising Afridi, Razzaq, UAkmal...as soon as the guy started praising Afridi, you can hear Salman Butt say "Pathan hai" in his microphone. As to imply that this is why Afridi is being praised.
What a jack@ss, Salman Butt should be ashamed of himself. Sazish hai my @ss, the other day I read on a forum that ICC deliberately holds WC in March as a "Sazish" against Pakistani students because exams for metric etc are held in these months so that students either don't watch the matches or watch the matches and don't study hence failing the exams. Can you effing believe this??
WTF would ICC gain by conjuring "sazhishes" against Pakistan?
GOOGLE
Yasser6
"As to imply that this is why Afridi is being praised."
I think probably implying that the guy praising Afridi was a "pathan".
This is exactly what is wrong with Pakistan. Rather than shunning such individuals who have brought nothing but shame for the country (Like Rahat Fateh Ali Khan), they are given tv spots so that they insult our intelligence. These guys should never be allowed to play even domestic cricket and that is the only way they would realise (I hope) what they have done.
Anwer Kamal
پھر میرا وہی سوال مگر اب ذرا اضافہ ہے -
یہ کرکٹر اتنے لالچی اور گھٹیا کیوں ہوتے ہیں ؟
oneUp
laanti salman butt...why the heck is our media(especially that scvmbag mubashar lickman) invite these lowlives? afridi has got integrity he isn't a sell-out like these ppl. seriously the anchor should have snubbed that d@g
Salam
Thanks Google for pointing it out, I just watched it myself and heard that pathetic comment from Salman Butt
"Pathaan Hey" is what he said, that tells the mind set of our cricketers, I would just say two words to Salman Butt in return "Jaahil Hey"..
msohail83
ullu ka patha.
zenith
@ all
Salman butt should be severely criticized for his wrong doings, but what is the problem in saying if someone is a pathan.
Afridi is no angel. He is too proud, and how can we forget the ball chewing incident.
Salman butt would have been much better than Afridi had this spot fixing scandle not happened. Afridi has no humility.
Salam
"What is the problem"
Let us take your comment above as an example and in response to it some one says "You are punjabi that is why you are favoring Salman Butt"
Meaning your comment is racially driven, get it?
msohail83
mujhay samajh nahi aati ke ye jahil media walon ko itni aqal nahi ke kis ko tv par bulana hai aur kisko nahi. Ye log kya sabit/promote karna chah rahay hain? hud ho gayee
Zoab Khan
You guys are right on. After shaming the country. Ruining life of a young-innocent-up-and-comer. This guy still believes he is innocent. Asma Sherazi even implying this "saazish." Like Mrs. Asma has a revelation from god. Come on idiots, this guy is crooked enough to be friend of Gilani's son. This guy was caught on tape, he had personal contacts with him, had money in his hotel(from opening ice cream parlors, ha ha ha...).
Asma Sherazi keeps pointing out that a nation stands by its people. She doesn't mention that a nations takes a stand for not an individual but what he stands for. Salman Butt stands for mighty dollar over honor. He is the def'n of sellout.
While people in the streets of Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Bahrain, Jordan, Morocco, Algeria will fight for what is right. Pakistani's will be happy with the status quo, and point to leaders like Salman Butt-ocks.
msohail83
right on the money Khan sahib.
shirazi
'He who is without sin, let him throw the first stone'
All Salman Butt said the guy who was praising Shahid Afridi sounds like a Pathan. He was implying talent aside there is additional Pathan factor that bonds them together. Everybody jumped on him as if he is the first one to instigate province level nationalism?
We have a long history of Karachi vs Lahore in our cricket. Wasn't that based on nationalism? MQM is Karachi based, ANP Pushtoon based, PPP revolves around Sindh card and PMLN jag Punjabi Jag.
I always applauded Shahaib Akhter beside talent because he was from Pindi. If I still find any new comer from Pindi I get excited. If players talk like Salman did it's because that's what they get from us, the fans.
I absolutely condemn what Salman, Asif and Aamir did but unfortunately focus of this thread is what we all practice. We jump on eachother on pkp mostly on ethical lines and yet we are casting stones on Salman Butt for using the word "Pathan Hai"
:)
GOOGLE
@shirazi
Did Salman butt also think that the other audience in the show praising Salman Butt and calling him innocent and all the episode of match fixing a sazish against Pakistan are doing so because they are Punjabis?
msohail83
You guys have to understand the background of this. Afridi was hated by Salman's gang including Mazhar Majeed cuz he wasn't cooperative in their nefarious activities.
Salman mentioned his ethnicity to try to play down any praise for Afridi as a bias from a fellow Pathan.
shirazi
I didn't watch the whole show but just that comment. And all I said Salman Butt is not the only one who brings up ethnicity where he didn't need to unfortunately we all do.
Zoab Khan
Shirazi,
Salman Butt is the former Kaptaaan. Not your normal citizen. Supposedly he is educated.
Sohail, yeah. You are right on about some players in the cricket team that were ticked off when Afridi wouldn't play along with these cheats.
shirazi
@Zoab Khan
Most of us are educated here and perhaps more than Salman Butt. We couldn't overcome our ethnic barriers. What right do we have to single him out?
iamsowise
Salman Butt is trying to catch cockroaches with his b....s.
Pehlay Meera nay sexual scene keye dollars k leyee, later iss ko green signal mil gaya.
Veena Malik nay easy money k leyee sexuality and nudity dikhayee. baad mein "bachi" ko samjhanay k leyee Syeed Noor Tv per agaye.
Rahat Ali Khan .........
Aur ab Salman Butt nay Punjabi Pathan card khailna shoro kardya hay.
oor kitna gand hay?
GOOGLE
@Shirazi your comments implies :
Because corruptions is widespread in Pakistan. So there is no need to criticize Zardari for his corruption? There is no need to single out Abdulah Gilani or Alama Syed Kazmi or Nawaz Shareef etc for their corruption.
shirazi
My point is:
'He who is without sin, let him throw the first stone'
Pkp is full of comments on ethnic lines what right we have to point out 'Pathan hai' comment.
bsobaid
It is a shame this guy is given TV time and some people actually defending him.
PCB must not spend a dime on these and actually charge them whatever money PCB had to spend on them.
Some psychologist should explain why we tend to side with criminals, be it Salman Butt and co., Qadri etc.
oneUp
@ shirazi
'Pkp is full of comments on ethnic lines what right we have to point out 'Pathan hai' comment.'
two wrongs don't make a right
Yasser6
@Shirazi
Zoab Khan's post consisted of two parts. Below is the first part.
"Asma Sherazi had this guy on the show. I was so surprised that every guest and every person sitting in the crowd were all of the views that spot fixing was a sazish against Pakistan...."
This is the most important part. Not only the player who brought shame to Pakistan was given airtime but the host of the programme aided and abetted in promotion of conspiracy theory. Do you feel that this should be condemned? If so, please do with all the power you possess and if not then I would suggest that you should refrain from making any further comments on any thing concerning Pakistan because if you cannot condemn corrupt individual then you cannot see any corruption througout the country.
bsobaid
@yasser, yes this should be condemned 100%.
Anyone allowing him to come on TV is an idiot. The guy is a criminal period. He should go in the corner and hide his face rather than shamelessly appearing on the TV.
shirazi
@Yasser6
Absolutely. I think ICC punishment is not enough, they should have been baned for life, even though I liked all of them especially Aamir. But to set an example PCB/ICC should have absolutely crushed them, they didn't and I am afraid two years from now we will have similar scandal.
I am also afraid if Pakistan made it to semi finals or final they will again throw the game. They play good to bump up their rates and once they are in big game where they are expected to do well they just throw the game. Remember what happened in Zulqarnain's case where Pakistan forced decider and then before match Zulqarnain opted out as he was under the gun to throw the match. The present lot of players and management not just at national but domestic level is very corrupt thanks to lineant ICC policies and punishments. I must add India is no different perhaps they are worse.
The issue I had here was 'pathan hai' comment. We all think on ethnic lines not just Salman Butt. On other issues why he is getting air time or why we are offering excuses I have absolutely no difference in opinion with those who are condemning that.
bsobaid
@shirazi, why do you care about Salman Butt's comments? this man is an animal and does not deserve the daylight.
Yasser6
@Shirazi
Your response is very gratifying. I thank you with all my heart.
As far throwing the game is concerned, firstly I do not buy Zulqarnain's story. A wicket-keeper can never fix a game on his own unless he has 8 other players in the scheme. If one player can fix a game, it can only be the Captain as only he can bring on a bad bowler, have poor field placing and change the batting order. If you look at the people who have been convicted of match fixing have always been captains, Hans Cron of South Africa, Azhar uddin of India and Salim Malik of Pakistan. Zuqarnain planned his departure with only and one objective, ie getting political asylam in the UK. By his own statements, he had visited the UK many times, was aware of the rules and knew that the authrotiies will be very sympathetic.
The current team is not a strong team. Shoab Akhtar is a spent force and Afridi does not possess a cricketing brain. I am of the view that he should not be even in the team for what he did to the pitch in Rawalpindi and the cricket ball recently but that is another story.
Ethenticity was never a problem in sports or otherwise. Sadly, our politicians do not and have not set good examples for the general public to follow and result is that the problem has infected the sports as well.
Thank you Shirazi once again.
shirazi
@bsobaid
I don't and that's why I didn't watch this show. I just watched 'pathan hai' comment around 37th min.
:)
@Yasser6
You are most welcome.
As far as Zulqarnain saga is concerned I don't think he said he was the only one approached by bookie. He just said he wasn't ready to sell out. That implies others were and perhaps they did. From present lot I don't trust anyone including players players, coach and management. May be few of them are clean but I can't say for sure.
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