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Massive protests rock Kashmir Valley

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  1. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/140160.html

    (Why does this not make news here? It is just baffling!!!)

    Related:
    India has cancelled defense exchanges with communist China after Beijing denied a visa to an Indian army general from the Jammu and Kashmir state.
    (I know our leaders would welcome him...and so would our 'Amn ki Asha' media)

    Posted 1 year ago on 28 Aug 2010 22:24 #
  2. Thank you, nota, for not forgetting Kashmir and the tragic occurrences there. China has a heart for their tribulations. Acts like a country with principles. I can't even begin to express my gratitude to them. Just as I can't even find the words to give vent to my anger against our own who stand by silent and idle while Kashmir burns.

    Posted 1 year ago on 28 Aug 2010 22:34 #
  3. @MG
    Maybe the answer lies here...

    BTW: here is a curious news item:
    NYT: Islamabad is handing over de facto control of the strategic Gilgit-Baltistan region in the northwest corner of disputed Kashmir to China

    Posted 1 year ago on 28 Aug 2010 22:47 #
  4. Nota, I found considerable food for thought in both your two links. The second one, in particular, although I don't trust the source in the least, was an eye-opener. One thing that did strike me though: no mention whatsoever of the flooding in Gilgit and Baltistan and the help being given them perhaps by the Chinese.

    Posted 1 year ago on 28 Aug 2010 23:23 #
  5. Haven't you ppl noticed one thing that the way our media some years back used to highlight kashmir issue/news,has been changed?

    prolly less importance to this issue is our own current catastrophic situation which has badly haunted all of us countrymen...

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 2:02 #
  6. d0ct0r
    Member

    I have noticed one thing consistently,whenever things heat up in Kashmir,or there is a bomb blast in India,things simultaneously go wrong here in Karachi and 100-150 karachiites die.

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 2:09 #
  7. @d0ct0r

    oh what an island of truth...You have finally EXPOSED another MQM's link in creating the situation in Karachi...Oh my God how will MQM gonna answer to that???Yes MQM you are responsible for everything you are agent of RAW, MOSAD, Blacwater, CIA, MI5, FSB, ABCD etc...It is you MQM who has taken 20 million people hostage, It is you MQM who got his hands dirty in Sialkot incident as well...Oh my its looks like I need to start another thread for that but anyways MQM need to be exposed cause every problems in Pakistan and now in Kashmir directly linked with MQM...

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 2:58 #
  8. d0ct0r
    Member

    gazi23

    Its amusing that I haven't even used the "M" word in my comment and you are all exasperated.. whats that saying in urdu, "chor ki dari main tinka"

    Good thing,Finally you have realized and are acknowledging that root cause of all troubles is indeed MQM ;) (and it was indeed MQM which was responsible for the 140+ deaths in latest mayhem)

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 3:38 #
  9. @d0ct0r

    If you didnt use MQM in your post so what???Is that difficult to assume whom you were pointing out when you said that whatever happens in Kashmir soon after that something happens in Karachi as well...Sir jee its not hard to conclude whom you are pointing finger on as your posts are speaking for itself that your next suspicion would go after MQM...

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 3:42 #
  10. Indian police arrest Kashmiri woman separatist leader

    NEW DELHI, Aug. 28 (Xinhua) -- Indian police Saturday arrested a woman separatist leader in India-controlled Kashmir who was on wanted list of police for agitating protests, reported the Indo- Asian News Service.

    Asiya Andrabi was arrested from a house in Zakura area of summer capital Srinagar, said the report quoting police sources.

    Andrabi's group, the Dukhtaran-e-Millat, is a constituent of the hardline Hurriyat group headed by Syed Ali Geelani.

    The group has been issuing shutdown and protest schedules in India-controlled Kashmir over the past two months which have seen violent conflicts between local Muslim youth and Indian paramilitary forces.

    At least 64 civilians have been killed by paramilitary forces over the past two months in India-controlled Kashmir.

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-08/28/c_13467216.htm

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 14:42 #
  11. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    That's a good question to ask nota.

    In the last 30 years, I have seen a consistent, slow retraction of Pakistan from Kashmir issue. People have Pakistan have chosen leaders, who have slowly but surely committed treason with Muslims/people of Pakistan, and also with Muslims/people of Kashmir.

    The question is, who has been in power all this time, who has been making decisions, taking actions ?

    Mostly those who claim to be 'liberal', 'secular', 'modernists', 'feudals', as well as those who have supported them. These are people who live within our ranks, yet they pledge loyalty to foreign entities.

    These people look for their financial, political, social, judicial welfare to foreign entities. They collude with foreign entities for 'benefiting' 'personally' at the expense of interests, as well as well-being of millions of people of this nation.

    How long will people of Pakistan, people of Kashmir allow this treachery, this charade to go on ?

    The problem is on Pakistan's side. The problem is;

    (1) the system
    (2) 'the people' who hold 'power' and all those who support them for attaining power

    (3) uncontrollable greed
    (4) out of control lust of land, money, resources, power, women, designations, self-interest of these people over every other consideration, including national interests, including interests as well as well-being of ALL of this UMMAH

    How do we get back to Kashmir issue ? We have to resolve this 'power' related dispute inside Pakistan, to get back to Kashmir issue.

    The need of the time is to;

    (1) return to Islam
    (2) become just
    (3) become honest
    (4) become brave
    (5) become self reliant / live within our means
    (6) differentiate between right and wrong
    (7) stop supporting injustice, crime, opportunists, looters/plunderers
    (8) stop running after luxuries of life
    (9) struggle
    (10) struggle for self revival
    (11) struggle for justice
    (12) struggle for changing the current system, replacing it with Khilafat / Islami Nizam

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 17:33 #
  12. mylove-Pakistan
    Member

    I think we are loosing Kashmir (80% lost - in my opinion).

    No reaction of the Govt. on what is happening in Kashmir

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 1:46 #
  13. quaidkamazaar
    Member

    Pakistanis have lost the Kashmir cause pretty much... present govt has no balls. Atleast Musharraf had guts to take the issue headon as far as I think.

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 5:35 #
  14. I beg to differ. I'm probably the eternal optimist, I know, but I believe the Kashmir cause is not lost in anyway. Kashmir will struggle away from Indian hegemony. Whether it links up with Pakistan then or not, I can't say. But tell me: would any of you, if you were a country, join up with Pakistan in its present state, and by that I don't mean the floods? That would be like going from bad to worse.

    HK, you wrote a very moving appeal to your countrymen above. I wish they'd wake up and pay a bit more attention to the needs of the hour. Struggle, you so rightly say. Well, the Kashimiris at least are doing exactly that.

    P.S. For all Musharraf supporters, we are told he'll be re-entering the fray in September. That's just round the corner. Rejoice!

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 7:44 #
  15. @quaidqamazaar
    "Atleast Musharraf had guts to take the issue headon as far as I think."

    And I though Mush is the one who built the track Zardari/this govt is riding on. If that is considered "guts" I don't know what lack of them is...

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 10:40 #
  16. Not sure if defacto control of Gilgit Baltistan to China will act as a deterrent, in favour of Pakistan but one thing is clear. India is not happy about all what is going on.

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 11:23 #
  17. We lost Kashmir through Shimla agreement a condition to free more than 90,000 army taken as war prisoners by India.

    Musharraf is a key role player in the murder of BB. He was quick to make sure all evidence was washed off or destroyed from the crime scene. Rest proved a breeze for Zardari to come to power. Since then we have been subjected to a strange and special type of revenge. Through him we are facing BB's vision and her version of best revenge that is democracy itself. Jiey Bhutto while all others can go to hell.

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 11:41 #

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