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Maya Khan is fired, and I'm not happy

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  1. http://newsexcuse.blogspot.com/2012/01/maya-khan-is-fired-and-i-am-not-happy.html

    Maya Khan is fired, along with entire team of the programme, and here goes my promise of not writing anything on her again. (for background on the matter, you can click this, and this)
    I don't know why, but I am not happy about it ending this way. It is reported that Maya Khan refused to offer 'unconditional apology', and it cost entire team their jobs. I fail to understand why she was so stubborn about it. Talking to Express Tribune she blamed “a vicious media campaign by rival groups” for the outcome of the fiasco. (Maya Khan, please stop being so inflexible, making mistakes is just human)
    This episode has proved one more thing, social media has emerged as a vigilant watchdog of conventional media. Now news channels and anchors would have to be more careful about their programmes.

    This is what the CEO of Samaa TV, Zafar Siddiqi had to say about the firing

    Dear All
    Your feedback is appreciated. As a responsible corporate citizen, Samaa TV did what was required under the circumstances. We do not and have not in the past or intend to in the future to take our viewership or reporting requirements without the seriousness that they deserve.
    You would appreciate that as an organisation with a functioning management team, we had to conduct certain legal requirements over the past week and internal review processes (which are operational in nature) before procedding further.
    As a result of which I can inform you:
    We asked Maya to apologise unconditionally which she did not.
    The CEO asked her to do that on Friday which she refused.
    As a result of which the following will be put in place on Monday, Jan 30th.
    Maya and her team will receive termination notices.
    Her show is being stopped from Monday morning.
    Our deeds and actions taken since this episode occured are there for the record and hope this will settle issues as far as the station is concerned.
    A lot has been written about the race for ratings. Well, we do absolve such behaviour irrespective of ratings that the show was getting.
    With best regards and thank you for your understanding.
    Zafar Siddiqi

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Jan 2012 13:58 #
  2. Well bro why would anyone care about one or two persons not happy with this decision :D...majority has apprectiated the good act done by the Management at Sama Tv....this will be a lesson for others also indulge in this sorta dirty business!

    Some ppl are never happy in whatsoever situation...always complaining! always critisizing!

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Jan 2012 14:06 #
  3. hypocrite

    a) Was this lady ever told by management of her channel, about its media policy, expectations, norms and boundaries within which the lady could work?

    b) If the lady went beyond the communicated boundaries, then why the management didn’t took immediate action and waited until there was an outcry from viewers

    c) Does the management supports / tolerates or even encourages its media personnel going to extreme to rake in hiring ratings / viewership.

    Looking at what media airs these days, the level of programs, the level of professionalism in the anchors, the mind boggling high salaries and the cut throat competition to get more ads, things are going to go out of control.

    While taking this action seems appropriate but the root cause of this entire problem still remains as it is.

    I wish if the root cause of this behaviour by the lady is eliminated

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Jan 2012 14:25 #
  4. agree with you hypocrite

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Jan 2012 16:21 #
  5. bsobaid

    Goood decision.

    People,s power.

    Does,nt matter the team was made aware of channel,s expectation or not. Her and her team,s behavior was blatantly non.sense and unethical from all standards and nneds not be conveyed explicitly.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Jan 2012 16:22 #
  6. expakistani

    I am glad TV is taking responsible action, that was stupid publicity trick by lady Maya,,, why not she go an look around her own house whats cooking there.

    Next time aap bhai log... apni apni gharwalion or honey wali gharwalion ko Burqa pehna ker le jana.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Jan 2012 16:55 #
  7. zalaan

    کچھ لوگ ایک بنیادی نکتے کو نہیں سمجھ رہے ہیں ، پارک میں جوڑوں کا ملنا اچھا ہے یا برا ایک الگ بات ہے اصل نکتہ یہ ہے کہ کسی کی بغیر اجازت تصویر اتارنا اور ویڈیو بنانا اس کے بنیادی حقوق کی خلاف ورزی ہے ، اگر وہ پپلک فگر نا ہو اور اگر ہو تو بھی اس کی پرائویٹ زندگی میں ایک حد سے زیادہ جانا غلط ہے ، آج کل کیمرہ فون سے یہ کام بہت ہو رہا ہے اور اسے برا بھی نہیں سمجھا جا رہا ہے

    ہمارے معاشرے میں کسی بیچاری لڑکی کو اس طرح دکھانا اس کی زندگی تباہ کردینا ہے بلکہ ان کی جان کا خطرہ بھی ہو سکتا ہے

    میرے نزدیک اگر یہ برائی ہے تو میں کسی کو بدنام کرنے سے بہتر نظرانداز کرنے کو ترجیح دونگا

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Jan 2012 17:44 #
  8. azizi

    Good to read this news. Even though the objects were ordinary citizens in this case, SAMAA TV has stood by its viewers and sent a strong message that Paparazzi-ism and Morality Mutaween have no place in our society. It is a confirmation of compelling evidences that General Zia is dead and so will fade his followers.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Jan 2012 19:02 #
  9. Qaiser Nadeem

    Finally, sanity prevails. She refused to apologize un-conditionality and got the boot.

    http://teeth.com.pk/blog/2012/01/28/samaa-tv-terminates-maya-khan-show

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Jan 2012 19:08 #
  10. EasyGo

    Hypocrite Sahib,

    You said it all very rightly. I think, all our problems have overlapping root cause.

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    میرے نزدیک اگر یہ برائی ہے تو میں کسی کو بدنام کرنے سے بہتر نظرانداز کرنے کو ترجیح دونگ
    Zalaan Sahib,
    A good course of action in my opinion. Another option could be private counseling and let go.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Jan 2012 19:10 #
  11. Rizwan Qaimkhani

    Omair sahab, kiya aap shasdi kay khwaishmund hain is TV anchor kay saath:) Kisi pal sukoon nahi hai:)

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Jan 2012 20:28 #
  12. bsobaid

    I was wondering if some morning host had approached a husband and a burqa clad wife on the street and had asked the woman if she was wearing her burqa with her own choice or under husband,s pressure, What would the channel have done?

    Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2012 4:45 #
  13. SultanAliKhan

    Finally a right decision was made....If Maya Khan is so stubborn as not to realize her flagrant mistake then let her be so on her own peril.....

    The mentality that she has shown should stay away from public domain, more so if one is given such a powerful tool as a live show on a TV channel...

    Sama TV management have done the right thing and we all must appreciate that!!!!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2012 5:26 #
  14. Sweettruth

    Great News!

    We and our society do not need such a moron in media and with huge powers of media. She should start looking for work somewhere else other than media. She has no place in media.

    Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2012 8:33 #
  15. jabalultariq

    I disagree , its not people power its a MOB....and a very emotional uneducated frenzied mob , very dangerous and very uneducated, like they say in punjabi - baandar huth khedona , people power is a stupid notion...and you can see the result !!

    Now if a father wants to bring back home his daughter whom he found doing "rung-rullian" , can he bring her back NO !! baecause these pseudo liberals are going to protect her rights !!

    say goodbye to sharafat.........what ever it means to all pseudo liberals !!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2012 23:02 #
  16. Sharif Aadmi

    I agree with the title.

    In my humble oponion , it was the responsiblity of channel 'SAMAA' that what was being aired.

    Regulatory authority should have taken action against the chanel.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 1:21 #
  17. bsobaid

    I actually saw an ngo ugly woman on tv saying even parents should not stop their children, let alone a tv anchor because children needs space and once they are adults they have their own rights.

    I seriously wondered why this creature is let loose in pakistan and even get to appear on tv. I have seen big jaahils but that ugly woman definitely set new standards

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 2:19 #
  18. hypocrite

    Obaid sahib

    You mean she is ugly or her specific program which was unwarranted is an ugly example of lack of profeesionalism?

    I will be bit surprised if we start commenting on how a person looks

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 2:48 #
  19. BlackSheep

    I actually saw an ngo ugly woman on tv saying even parents should not stop their children, let alone a tv anchor because children needs space and once they are adults they have their own rights.

    میرے خیال میں اس فورم کے کافی لوگ مغربی ممالک میں رہائش پذیر ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ اور جو لوگ پاکستان میں ہیں میرے خیال میں وہ بھی ان ہی مغربی ممالک میں رہنے کی خواہش رکھتے ہوں گے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    دلچسپ بات یہ ہے کہ ان تمام مغربی ممالک میں کسی شخص کے بالغ ہونے کے بعد اس کے اپنے حقوق ہوتے ہیں اور اس شخص کی اپنی مرضی اہمیت رکھتی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    آج سے چالیس پچاس سال پہلے لڑکیوں کیلئے دو چوٹیاں بنا کر اسکول جانا انتہائی ضروری تھا لیکن آج ایسا کچھ نہیں ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ وقت(زمانہ) یا معاشرہ ہمیشہ کسی نہ کسی سمت میں چلتے رہتے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ ان کو کبھی روکا نہیں جاسکتا۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ آج ہوسکتا ہے اس این جی او زدہ بدصورت عورت کی باتیں آپ کو بری لگیں لیکن بیس تیس پچاس سال بعد ہوسکتا ہے پاکستان میں شخصی آزادی کے معاملے میں یورپ جیسے ہی قوانین ہوجائیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ یہ ایک الگ بحث ہے کہ کیا صحیح ہے اور کیا غلط۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ مگر ناسٹلجیا بڑی بری بَلا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ کہیں پڑھا تھا کہ میرے بچپن میں آم زیادہ میٹھے ہوتے تھے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    ;-) :-) ;-)
    برٹرینڈ رَسل نے بڑی اچھی بات کہی تھی۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

    Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.
    -Bertrand Russell

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 2:51 #
  20. hypocrite

    Another example of our emotional nature. We are only after rolling a head, rather than looking at what causes such behaviour in our society and then changing that behaviour.

    One head will roll, people will be happy, things will work out for a little while and then it could go back to the same situation. Dont know why we are not interested in bringing structural improvements.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 2:51 #
  21. Sweettruth

    I do not care about what she looks like and what she wears and what she does; my criticism was on her inappropriate approach to invade privacy of ordinary public in public places. Calling someone ugly is inappropriate; Imran calls Babar Ghouri an African which is also wrong

    She does not have a place in media.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 2:59 #
  22. bsobaid

    Good example of our extremist natures. We tend to swing between extremes.

    For example, if you oppose mayan khan,s harkatein thenyou should also condone dating culture and "youth rights".
    Being right or wrong is not a separate discussion, this is the discussion.

    Yes, human and social behavior evolve but they dont always have to evolve in a certain direction.
    For example, Liquor consumption has always been a part of western culture, so from your logic, babies should be fed with liquor today rather than milk but on the contrary, current trend in west is to raise age limit of alcohol consumption.

    In west, there were two impetus behind providing human rights; one was because it was the right thing to do and second was "compromise". The compromise was made because a perceived evil in society had spread to a level where it was impossible to control. As a result, in order to streamline and regulate it and minimise the damage, it was recognised as a right. The so called youth rights fall in the same category.these human rights are not an inherent and desired goal for a society but they only become so when a certain environment exist.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 3:11 #
  23. jabalultariq

    Again I will again ignore Sharif Admi , cause he is not sharif at all, and I really wonder who did his brought that he talks about other persons family. May allah fix our rotten mind...

    As for topic, which is very dear to me , is Morality and the way it has deteriorated so rapidly.

    In US, i heard in the news a few years ago, that when back in 60's Tom Johns wanted to do a concert in one of the states he was banned because he used to shake and dance (may be obscenely) while singing , and yet the same state is allowing Brittany Spears to sing who is light years ahead in dressing and performing in a very vulgar way.

    They said, that morality is what is acceptable to the public . So the media keeps pushing the boundaries of morality and pseudo liberals keeps accepting these boundries until one day cows come home in the shape of their own son or duaghter getting raped / drunk or involved in a serious car accident and in coma for rest of the lives.

    I refuse to accept standards of morality which keeps changing with times , I dont call this liberalism.....its madness

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 3:12 #
  24. bsobaid

    I asked a question in another thread on similar topic.

    If same maya kha had approached a husband and a burqa clad wife on street and asked qthe woman if her husband beats her or had asked if she was wearing burqa on her husband pressure or her own choice, what would be our reaction...
    What would be those ugly ngo women were saying on tv then...

    From what i have noticed from numerous discussions and actions, it os not other human,s rights we are concened of, we are mostly concerned of making a point that bolsters one,s school of thought.

    I feel this is an extremely selfish and inhuman tendency.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 3:18 #
  25. jabalultariq

    it all depends on the sense of humor of the interviewee, I this was asked of me, I would

    a) say no thanks
    b) if i really want to truly portray a good picture of islam, would let the wife answer the question

    or c) would say that the question is too personal or offensive and perhaps give my views about burqa or violence against females

    if NGOs aim is dignity of female I am with them , but this dignity also applies where she is portrayed as an object , where these NGO see it as "her free will"

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 3:26 #
  26. BlackSheep

    For example, if you oppose mayan khan,s harkatein thenyou should also condone dating culture and "youth rights".

    میں نے قطعاً یہ بات نہیں کہی کہ اگر مایا خان صاحبہ کی کسی دوسرے کی پرائیویسی میں دخل اندازی اگر غلط ہے تو نوجوان لڑکے لڑکیوں کے یوں ملنے کو سند دے دینی چاہئے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ میں نے صرف آپ کی این جی او زدہ عورت پر کمنٹ پر اپنے کمنٹس دئے تھے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ جہاں تک لڑکے لڑکیوں کا یوں ملنا ہے تو اس پر میرا کچھ مختلف موقف ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

    Being right or wrong is not a separate discussion, this is the discussion.

    میرے دوست صحیح غلط کی بحث ایک بالکل دوسرا موضوع ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ اگر آپ چاہیں تو اس پر بات کی جاسکتی ہے لیکن مجھے نہیں لگتا آپ یا آپ سے زیادہ یہاں کے کچھ اور دوست اس کی تپش کو برداشت کرپائیں گے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    کیوں کہ مسئلہ ہی یہیں سے پیدا ہوجاتا ہے کہ کیا صحیح اور کیا غلط ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ میں جہاں تک سمجھ پایا ہوں اس معاملے میں صرف دو اپروچ استعمال ہوتی ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ صحیح غلط کیا آسمان سے نازل ہوئے ہیں یا انسانی اجتماعی شعور کا نتیجہ ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ ان دونوں کے علاوہ مجھے کوئی تیسرا رُخ نظر نہیں آتا۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ لیکن اگر آپ اس پر بات کریں گے تو پھر لازماً مذہب پر بات آئے گی۔۔۔۔۔۔ جس کی یہاں پابندی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

    Yes, human and social behavior evolve but they dont always have to evolve in a certain direction.

    جنابِ محترم میں نے اپنی پوسٹ میں واضح لکھا تھا کہ وقت اور معاشرہ کسی نہ کسی سمت میں چلتا رہتا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ میں نے قطعاً یہ نہیں کہا تھا کہ معاشرہ ہمیشہ اچھائی کی طرف جاتا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ یہاں وہی بات آجاتی ہے کہ کونسی سمت صحیح ہے اور کون سی غلط ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ یہ فیصلہ کیسے ہوتا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ اس کا فیصلہ صرف وقت کرتا ہے کہ کون صحیح تھا اور کون غلط تھا۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

    For example, Liquor consumption has always been a part of western culture, so from your logic, babies should be fed with liquor today rather than milk but on the contrary, current trend in west is to raise age limit of alcohol consumption.

    اب یورپ کے لوگوں نے شراب پینے پر مختلف قسم کی پابندیاں کیوں لگائی ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ میں خود برطانیہ میں پچھلے کئی سالوں سے رہائش پذیر ہوں اور یہاں اس معاملے میں بہت قانون سازی ہوچکی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ لیکن یہی تو سوال ہے کہ یہ قانون سازی آخر کیوں ہورہی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ کیا انسانی اجتماعی شعور کا نتیجہ ہے یا آسمان سے نازل احکامات ان کی وجہ ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 3:35 #
  27. bsobaid

    Secondly, people want to migrate to developed nations for economic reason, this does not oblige them to agree with or condone their moral values. Their only obligation is to follow the law of land without ifs and buts and if law of the land is forcing them to act in contrast with their moral or ethical values they can migrate elsewhere or use legal means to register their concerns.

    At the moment, i dont know of any law of land that forces a typical pakistani to compromise his/her values.

    However, this logic that majority of awam wants to migrate to amreeka and canada and wilayat therefore they should also become angraiz in their social life or otherwise be prepared to be called hypocrates is a flawed thinking.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 3:36 #
  28. Respect

    @jabalultariq

    well said!

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 3:39 #
  29. bsobaid

    Ok sheep, we are talking about different things, so lets leave it for some other time.

    I will only make one point here. The fact that we recongnise the notion of right and wrong itself indicates its existance which in my opinion makes their genesis irrelevant. This point of view is further strengthened by the fact thatdefinition of right and wrong on major social questions is consistent across all cultures. Yes, their handling and treatment of right and wrong might be different but that is a secondary issue.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 3:44 #
  30. BlackSheep

    عبید صاحب۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    بے شک پاکستانی دوسرے ممالک میں جاتے ہیں تو اس کی سب سے بڑی وجہ معاشی حالات ہوتے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ لیکن اس بات پر آپ نے غور کیا کہ یہ مغربی ممالک اتنے اچھے کیسے ہوگئے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ میری نظر میں ان ممالک کی سب سے اچھی بات ان ممالک میں افراد کو حاصل شخصی، معاشی، مذہبی اور معاشرتی آزادی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    ایک امیریکن نفسیات دان تھا ابراہم موسلو۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ اس کی ایک بڑی اچھی تھیوری ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Maslow's_Hierarchy_of_Needs.svg/450px-Maslow's_Hierarchy_of_Needs.svg.png

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 3:48 #
  31. BlackSheep

    میں خلافتی حضرات کو ایک بات کہا کرتا تھا کہ صحیح غلط کچھ نہیں ہوتا اپنا اپنا نقطہِ نظر ہوتا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    ;-) :-) ;-)

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 3:52 #
  32. bsobaid

    Hmmm...china kee economy kay baray kia kaheay gaa?

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 3:59 #
  33. bsobaid

    But the point is really migrating to a country, which mostly happens due to economic reason does not make a person hypocrate neither does it oblige a person to abondon his/her values as long as they dont conflict with the law of land.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 4:04 #
  34. BlackSheep

    اس میں کوئی شک نہیں کہ چائنا ایک بڑی معاشی طاقت بنتا جارہا ہے لیکن جہاں تک بات ہے اس ملک میں شخصی و مذہبی آزادی کی تو صورتحال کافی خراب ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ چائنا میں تو ابھی تک لوگوں کو یہ حق تک حاصل نہیں ہے کہ اپنی مرضی کے حکمران چن سکیں باقی باتیں تو دور کی بات ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    :-( ;-) :-(

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 4:07 #
  35. bsobaid

    Tou phirr inn kee ma,ashi taraqqi freedoms kay bina kaisay hogaein?
    South africa mein bhi liberties hein magar wahan sirf mqm kar mafroor jaatay hein..

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 4:17 #
  36. BlackSheep

    Tou phirr inn kee ma,ashi taraqqi freedoms kay bina kaisay hogaein

    یہ ضروری نہیں کہ معاشی ترقی شخصی یا مذہبی آزادیوں کے بغیر نہیں ہوسکتی۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ میرا یہ کہنا ہے کہ امیریکہ کینیڈا یا مغربی یورپ کے ممالک کی سب سے اچھی بات وہاں پر میَسر آزادی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ چاہے وہ شخصی ہو یا مذہبی ہو یا معاشرتی ہو۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ لیکن یہ بہرحال میرا اپنا ذاتی نقطہِ نظر ہے کہ میں مغربی ممالک میں حاصل آزادی کو بہت اہمیت دیتا ہوں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ ہوسکتا ہے کہ آپ کے نزدیک مغربی ممالک میں حاصل یہ آزادی کوئی اہمیت نہ رکھتی ہو اور آپ کے نزدیک کچھ اور معاملات زیادہ اہمیت کے متقاضی ہو۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ بہرحال اپنا اپنا نقطہِ نظر ہوتا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    ابھی کچھ دنوں پہلے ایک فارورڈ ای میل بہت گردش کررہی تھی کہ لیبیا میں وہاں کے شہریوں کو معمر قذافی کی طرف سے معاشی طور پر کس قدر سہولتیں حاصل تھیں لیکن اس کے باوجود قذافی کے ساتھ کیا ہوا۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    ابراہم موسلو کے پائرامڈ آف نیڈز کو دیکھیں تو یہی بات سامنے آتی ہے کہ جب بنیادی سہولتیں پوری ہوجاتی ہیں تو کچھ اور نفسیاتی ضرورتیں پیدا ہوجاتی ہیں جیسا کہ عزتِ نفس۔۔۔۔۔۔ اعتماد۔۔۔۔۔۔ احترام پانے کی خواہش۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ شخصی آزادی۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 4:30 #
  37. Sharif Aadmi

    JT

    First things first , i never intended to bring your family into discussion , if u felt it that way , i apologize.

    what i wrote was in response to your
    '
    Now if a father wants to bring back home his daughter whom he found doing "rung-rullian"
    '

    Anyhow , if it offended u , i again apologize.

    Now , coming to discussion,

    Please tell the forum fellow members
    'What badmashi i have done with u " ?

    '
    I refuse to accept standards of morality which keeps changing with times , I dont call this liberalism.....its madness
    '
    Go on refusing it. Actually not accepting the change is 'MADNESS'

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 4:57 #
  38. Dusky

    Two wrongs don't make a right.
    From Pakistan's social standards perspective dating is wrong, but what Maya did was worst than that. Our media and media personalities does not know their limits and responsibilities which comes with their position in media.

    God forbid, if some nut job go crazy and kill one of the people exposed on her program on the name of "honor", who will held accountable for that person murder?

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 5:29 #
  39. Sharif Aadmi

    There are two basic questions.

    a) What is moral or immoral , who had given this authority to decide to some TV anchor.

    b) Even if moral , under what authority she was acting ?

    TV Channel is responsible which approved this idea and then supplied with instruments and personnel to conduct this exercise. Now , anchor has been made escape goat. How she could do all this without prior approval ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 5:35 #
  40. Sweettruth

    Now public should chase Maya Khan everysay (from morning to night, better 24 hour) with video cameras to shoot her video (of her daily activities) and then post on You Tube.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 15:18 #
  41. jabalultariq

    SA - "Go on refusing it. Actually not accepting the change is 'MADNESS'

    Please give me a sane answer , we are not here to win brownie points

    Are you saying whatever norms , the media or society keeps shoving to you , you keep accepting them.

    Which means, if soon , these dating couples start "kissing" in the public , we should accept it.

    And then when they get more promiscous , we accept that as well.

    So when and where does society puts a stops , who decides it , can you not atleast have your own opinion or you keep bouncing from one level of moral degradation to another, just because society accepts it ? If you dont call it madness then what is madness !!! I am sure in a familiy if the pareants will say " OK lets switch on the TV and see how they are dressing up and interacting with others and lets start following them" that's going to spell disaster.

    In my opinion , since we're lucky to be muslims , fortunately our moral standards are SET IN STONE , so we dont have to be overwhelmed or ashamed of why we are

    a) supposed to dress conservativley
    b) minimize haram male-female interaction
    c) avoid alcohol

    thoough we are weak and unable to observe the above , atleast the guidelines are clear and no practising muslim looks at them as something CHANGING WITH TIMES , just becuase Brittany Spears decided to do so.......

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 19:50 #
  42. Sharif Aadmi

    JT

    If u r going to decide whats a sane and whats not , then i conceed right here.

    I don't have anything sane for u gentleman.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Jan 2012 23:30 #
  43. jaypk

    yeh cheez..!

    warhh gaee maya khan...lush..i hope and wish the something more worse will happen to her ...saalay elite burgers...whd they do in kopper cattles or zamzama is jayaz...thts not date...thts part of their life...or ghareeb karay to muashraa yaad aa jata hay in ko...double faced hypocrite silly stupid elite burgers....my appeal to all the middle class and lower middle class dating couples ...k jahan bhee yeh burgers date martay huway nazar aein...joootay maaro in ko..yeh waisay bhee pha**u hotay hein..:P

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Jan 2012 1:06 #
  44. jabalultariq

    SA- By sane I mean , a meaningful dialogue

    I mean are we so weak that we keep changing our moral standards ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Jan 2012 2:18 #
  45. Anwer Kamal

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Jan 2012 8:00 #
  46. SultanAliKhan

    News item...Maya & Company fired by SAMAA TV....

    Khas Kum, Jehan Paak.....

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Jan 2012 8:27 #
  47. justhuman

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Jan 2012 8:58 #
  48. Sweettruth

    @Anwer Kamal

    Awesome cartoon; you have given image to my views. What they say, a picture speaks for 1000 words.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Jan 2012 11:37 #
  49. SultanAliKhan

    @justhuman.......awesome and absolutely relevant video by Social Media.....

    I hope Maya saga ends right there and we don't find any other stupid resuming the very shameful vigilante role that Maya had been dislodged from....

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Jan 2012 13:28 #
  50. jabalultariq

    "shameful vigilante role"

    hmmmmmm !!! so its a shameful role

    but west has many shows which go much farther than Maya khan , are they not more liberal ??? than what we are trying to prove ourselves here in this whole saga....

    something is wrong in this picture.......

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Jan 2012 20:54 #
  51. Sharif Aadmi

    JT

    Its definately shamful and disgusting. Because

    She is acting without a legal and moral authority. Who has given her this autority to chase & interfere in someone's personal.

    Just to remind u that Hazrat Umar RA , when he was a caliph, jumped into a house in the night suspecting something illegal happening and he not had to apologize for that but also didn' intiate the legal procedings because he had trespassed someone's priviate life without moral & legal authority.

    Btw , u remind me of uni days when JI badmash were all around to enforce their islamic moral code.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Jan 2012 23:11 #
  52. jabalultariq

    SA - call me anything BUT jammatiya

    My point is simple - people who call themselves liberals , maya has called there bluff , if you are liberal , there is'nt anyhting wrong with what Maya did !!!!

    But no one wants to answer the questions I have repeatedly asked,

    doesnt westeren, liberal media allows such shows , YES !!

    is'nt our media liberal , YES !

    so why Maya was fired ????

    Your example doesnt fit in this sittuation

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Feb 2012 3:36 #
  53. Sharif Aadmi

    JT

    Interfering in someone's personals is not liberalism.

    She was acting without any legitimate authority in personals . What it has to do with liberalism ?????? It was simply criminal.

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Feb 2012 4:06 #
  54. BlackSheep

    جبل الطارق صاحب۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    کیا مغرب میں اس بات کی آزادی ہے کہ کوئی ٹی وی کیمرہ کریو کسی بھی پبلک پلیس میں جاکر کسی بھی شخص کی فلم اس کی مرضی پوچھے بغیر بناسکتا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    ;-) :-) ;-)

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Feb 2012 4:12 #
  55. Qaiser Nadeem

    Maulana Maya Khan

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Feb 2012 4:19 #
  56. jabalultariq

    Dear ????

    there are several TV shows in the west who pounce on people in public , without asking for permission. Cheaters is one of them , which spies on cheating spouses then expose them to the other spouse and then they fight....I already posted a you-tube link

    Dear SA

    "Interfering in someone's personals is not liberalism"

    are you saying haram-kari in public parks is private act ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Feb 2012 20:01 #
  57. Dusky

    @jabalultariq:
    "My point is simple - people who call themselves liberals , maya has called there bluff , if you are liberal , there is'nt anyhting wrong with what Maya did !!!!"

    Seriously, liberals or conservative who give them the right to intervene in anyone private life? What she did has nothing to do with any ism, that's down right invasion of someone private life. Being in public does not mean you lose your rights as a private citizen. It does not mean any tom, d!ck or harry has a right to film you and interrogate you on tv without your permission.

    TV officials were smart to realize their mistake, they save there **** by firing her, they know very well if anyone decide to take them to the court they will be in trouble. They fired Maya and hit multiple birds with one stone.

    "there are several TV shows in the west who pounce on people in public , without asking for permission. Cheaters is one of them"

    Next time you watch cheaters, watch the disclaimer at the end of show as well. What they show on tv is with the permission of the involved parties, hence they blur faces of strangers and those who refuse to give them the permission. otherwise that will have a filed day at courts.

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Feb 2012 20:28 #
  58. BlackSheep

    جبل الطارق صاحب۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    میں یو کے میں رہائش پذیر ہوں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ میں نے بہت پہلے کسی میگزین میں پڑھا تھا کہ دنیا کے کُل کیمروں کا بیس فیصد صرف یو کے میں ہے یا پھر یو کے میں اتنے لوگ نہیں ہیں جتنے کیمرے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ یہاں اتنی بڑی تعداد میں کیمرے لگے ہوئے ہونے کے باوجود جہاں پر بھی کوئی کیمرہ آتا ہے پہلے سے بتادیا جاتا ہے کہ آگے کوئی کیمرہ ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ اسی کی دھائی میں جب یو کے کی سڑکوں پر کیمرے لگانے کی بات شروع ہوئی تھی تو اس موضوع پر پارلیمنٹ میں بہت لمبی بحث چلی تھی۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ حکومت کو مطلوبہ تعداد میں ووٹ نہیں مل رہے تھے کہ اس بل کو منظور کرواسکیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ آخر کار کافی بحث مباحثہ کے بعد یہ طے ہوا کہ اگر کہیں بھی کوئی کیمرا لگے گا تو پہلے مطلع کیا جائے گا کہ آگے کیمرا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ اسی طرح یہاں کسی عوامی جگہ میں بھی اگر کوئی آپ کی تصویر کھینچنے کی کوشش کرے تو آپ کے پاس یہ حق حاصل ہے کہ آپ اس کو منع کردیں اگر پھر وہ آپ کی تصویر لینے کی کوشش کرے تو یہ حرکت ہراسمنٹ کے درجے میں آتی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    میں نے یہاں بھی ایسے واقعات بھی دیکھے ہیں کہ کسی روڈ کیمرہ کے ساتھ بورڈ لگا ہوا ہوتا ہے جس پر لکھا ہوتا ہے کہ یہ کیمرہ کام نہیں کر رہا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    خیر امیریکہ کا چیٹرز پروگرام ہو یا مایا خان کا یوں لڑکے لڑکیوں کی ان کی مرضی کے بغیر فلم بنانا میری نظر میں انتہائی برا اقدام ہے اور ان کی پرائیویسی میں دخل اندازی ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    ویسے برسبیلِ تذکرہ لبرل ازم کا ایک ترجمہ یہ بھی کیا جاسکتا ہے کہ جیو اور جینے دو۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

    پسِ تحریر۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    میں نے ڈسکی صاحب کی یہ تحریر بعد میں دیکھی۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

    Next time you watch cheaters, watch the disclaimer at the end of show as well. What they show on tv is with the permission of the involved parties, hence they blur faces of strangers and those who refuse to give them the permission. otherwise that will have a filed day at courts.

    اگر چیٹرز پروگرام میں وہ کوئی ڈسکلیمر جاری کرتے ہیں جس کے مطابق پروگرام کی انتظامیہ تمام متعلقہ فریقین کی رضامندی سے فلم بندی کرتی ہے تو میرے خیال میں یہ کوئی غلط کام نہیں ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    ویسے مجھے حیرت اس بات پر ہے کہ یہاں کے کچھ مذہبی اور لیگی مجاہد بھی پاکستان میں بھی مورل انسپکٹر چاہتے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    ;-) :-( ;-)

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Feb 2012 20:57 #
  59. فارغ جذباتی

    Ji haan UK main to sab kuch awam se pooch ker aur bata ker kia jata hai

    TC ki bhi koi had hoti hai

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10888985

    and to broaden some people's knowledge

    http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/8388267.Fears_over_CCTV_use_in_York_schools/

    FJ

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Feb 2012 21:07 #
  60. BlackSheep

    فارغ دماغوں سے گذارش ہے کہ جن آرٹیکلز کو لگایا گیا ہے اس کو پڑھ بھی لیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
    ;-)

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Feb 2012 21:15 #

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