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Mid term election is the only way:PTI

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  1. wantinsaf
    Member

    Imran Khan sticking to his principled stance asks for mid term election.Khan has been demanding mid term election since early 2009 and was the first one to predict that this Govt is bound to fail and in no way can complete its tenure.

    Imran Khan clarifies he is against martial law and only constitutional and appropriate way is to hold mid term election.
    http://thenews.com.pk/26-08-2010/ethenews/t-171.htm
    Altaf’s statement cannot be condoned: Imran
    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan on Wednesday said that MQM Quaid Altaf Hussain’s statement to incite the Army to take over could in no way be condoned.
    In a statement here, the PTI chairman, however, said that the MQM leader’s statement was a clear admission of the failure of the ruling coalition. He contended that instead of seeking the Army’s intervention, the MQM should have left the government and pressed for the mid-term polls.
    He was of the view that it was time to go for fresh elections under the aegis of the judiciary. Imran noted that it was not the military’s mandate to interfere in politics and their meddling had already cost the nation dearly.
    Imran lauded the Army’s role in the ongoing flood relief operations and said there was no logic in dragging it into political mopping up operations.
    http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/26-Aug-2010/Imran-reacts-to-Altafs-remarks

    ISLAMABAD – PTI Chairman Imran Khan has categorically stated that he in no way condones the statement made by MQM Chief Altaf Hussain inciting the military for another Martial Law.
    In a statement issued here on Wednesday, Imran said that he feels that since the MQM is part of the ruling coalition, Altaf Hussain’s statement is a clear admission of failure by this ruling coalition. However, instead of calling for the Army to intervene again, with all the chaos that implies, the MQM should have chosen to leave the coalition and demanded mid-term elections.
    Imran said, “It is a standard procedure in a democratic dispensation that whenever a government fails to deliver, it becomes mandatory on it to seek a fresh mandate from the people. The time has certainly come when a transparent election under the aegis of the judiciary are held immediately to bring the country out of the present crisis of confidence and the prevailing trust deficit that exists between the government and people of Pakistan.”
    He said that as for the military, it is not its place to intervene in the political process and our past history reflects the costs we have paid for these interventions.
    “At present the Army is doing a remarkable job of flood relief and it should not be dragged in to do political mopping operations, which turn into prolonged and costly political holding operations,” he maintained.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 7:27 #
  2. bhai ,
    i m a supporter of Imran Bhai , big time supporter .
    but i just dont like his stance on mid term elections .

    aik baat tou batao.
    mid term election se konsa Cheeta ajaye ga iqtedaar mein ???

    yahi PPP ,PMLN,PMLQ ,JI ,JUP ,JUI ,MQM,ANP ki khichri pakkay gi na jo iss waqat pakki howe hay .

    tou kharcha kion karana chahtay ho ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 7:51 #
  3. wantinsaf
    Member

    5 years ke failure se behter nai hai 2 and half years ka failure?
    Jab hamain pata hai is Govt se mulk ko nuqsan hi paunchna hai to hum kaise 5 years de sakte hain?

    Had this Govt bee only incomptent,it perhaps would have been acceptable.But the problem is this Govt is acting like traitors who are selling this country to Americans and Indians.This very fear is making people demand for mid term election.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 7:56 #
  4. bhai mera sawal samjho .
    mein kehta hoon.
    agay kiya hay ?

    kon se farishatay mid term election mein aanay walay hain ?
    jo mulk ko sudhar dein gaye ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 8:01 #
  5. Revivalist
    member

    Seeking solution in mid-term election is like treating the cancer patient with paracetamol. Don’t you think the same thugs will come into power again? Is elections in Pakistan transparent, that would allow PTI to come into power? If suppose PTI comes into power will they be free to do whatever they want? And most importantly if they come into power won’t they be ruling by the same secular constitution and a judiciary that is made by British Raj? Being a man made system, Democracy is always controlled by elites and you cannot stop them.

    Let’s not fool ourselves, Pakistan has a great opportunity to shift its paradigm, we need to replace the corrupt elitocratic system and establish Islamic khilafah, that will take the country of from miseries and will exploit the abundant resources Pakistan has for the wellbeing of Pakistan, as well as will re-unify the Ummah, its resources and its armies to protect its people rather then the enemies.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 8:24 #
  6. wantinsaf
    Member

    @choosy

    ab Pakistan main koi party bhi 70 se ziada seats nai jeet paye gi to Govt kissi aik party ki jageer nai bane gi...
    jis ke baad comparatively corruption kerna aasan nai ho ga ....
    agle mid term mai to farishte nai ayain ge laiken us se agle election mai zaroor insan ayain ge

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 8:37 #
  7. siddiqi73
    Member

    @revivalist,

    Bro, you are advocating a theocracy in Pakistan. No way in the world we are gonna tolerate the likes of Mulla Diesel running the affairs of our country.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 8:40 #
  8. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @siddiqi73: Keeping Mr. Fazl-ur-Rahman aside, what does 'theocracy' mean ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 8:45 #
  9. Revivalist
    member

    Dear siddiqi,

    I would like you to please explain what theocracy is and how khilafah fix in your definition of theocracy? FYI, Molana sahib can well become the PM in the democratic system but can’t become the caliph due to his character :).

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 8:49 #
  10. @wantinsaaf bhai ,
    yani kay baar baar awam kay kharchay pe election hoon .
    tou sahi log ayein gaye, yeh thoery hay tumhari .

    acha magar yeh batao , abhi tak 88 ,90 ,93, 95 ,05 aur 09 kay elections mein konse change aagaye hay ?

    1988 mein jeetnay walay chehray aaj 2010 mein bhi bethay loot rahay hain ...

    22 years ...and we are still there .
    from where we started off with .

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 8:50 #
  11. Revivalist
    member

    well said choosy!!!

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 8:53 #
  12. siddiqi73
    Member

    @revivalist,

    Character? Now where the heck are we gonna find a person of sound character in the whole of god forsaken Pakistan?

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 8:54 #
  13. siddiqi73
    Member

    @choosy,

    Corrections my friend, change has taken place.....now we also have the likes of Faisal Raza Abidi, Fouzia Azab, Asma Barbad Alamgir, Mardana Raja etc. etc. in our Parliament as well ;)

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 8:56 #
  14. Revivalist
    member

    Mr. Siddiqi,

    You mean to say we don’t have anyone to rule us? It’s extremely weird!!!! For instance, HT being a global political party offers its leadership to the people of Pakistan and to the Ummah in general. We believe Muslims Ummah has khair in it till the Day of Judgment, because Allah (swt) said in Quran “you are the best Ummah".

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 9:07 #
  15. gv
    Member

    Mid Terms & accountability - again and again and again - until our politicians realise that being slippery is a one way ticket to political limbo.....

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 9:36 #
  16. Jaatt
    Member

    And when the election come khan saab will tear apart the nomination papers n boycott the election just like the 2008 election n the recent by elections in which they were certain of defeat so they boycotted, it can't be the fear of rigging coz and ind won against ppp n n league in sargodha, no rigging there

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 9:36 #
  17. @Revivalist bhai ,
    shukria meri post appreciate karnay ka .
    warna yahan sub mujh se chirtay rehtay hain.

    @Siddiqi ,
    bhai yahan tou Farzanaooo aur Fouziayoon ne mulk ka baira paar lagana hay , issi liye tou doob raha hay mulk .

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 9:45 #
  18. siddiqi73
    Member

    @Jaatt,

    LOL!

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 9:45 #
  19. Revivalist
    member

    choosy,

    jasay siyasatdan media se chirtay hai aisa he kuch loog ap say chirtay hongay khunkay ap unke dukti rag par hath rakhtay hongay :), Chirtay hai to chiray, app apna kam jari rakhay....

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 10:24 #
  20. salaudin
    Member

    I think the mid-term election demand is based on the theory that after the azad-adliya, which would make the election commission independent inshallah, the new elections would not yield similar thugs and criminals that we have had before. In other words, truly free and fair elections would not give us in such incompetent and corrupt rulers.
    About why not wait till they finish, I think we all agree that it is better to cut this crap now; sooner the better.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 10:24 #
  21. Revivalist
    member

    Salaudin,

    Agree to cut this crap ASAP, but only cutting them in not the solution. If we conduct elections on monthly bases, even then you would see capitalist ruling us, so expecting democracy in Pakistan to deliver is nothing but self deception, according to me. Please look at the reality, history of Pakistan and the nature of democracy; I am sure you would reach to the same conclusion.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 10:30 #
  22. @Revivalist bhai ,
    shukriya ...yahan mujh se sub nahi chirtay .
    kuch meray dost bhi hain jiasay aap...:):):)

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 10:33 #
  23. Revivalist
    member

    blikul, main ne kaha kuch log :)

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 10:37 #
  24. gv
    Member

    @salaudin

    It would be naive to think that mid term elections will usher in virtuous and forward thinking politicans in a single swoop... rest assured we will still have a lot time to spend with a large proportion of "similar thugs and criminals that we have had before"

    However there should be less of them than before as the public realises the inherent flaws in our biradri/feudal electoral process and begins to elect real leaders to office.

    Over time politicans will also realise that they will not be allowed to get away with bloody murder and complete incompetence and that their sole purpose is to serve the country not rule it... This will itself weed out a majority of the crooks and thugs who will look for different paths to attain wealth and power and leave the field open for qualified,educated and visionary leaders who are genuinely motivated to serve the people and their country..

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 10:44 #
  25. @Rivalalist bhai ,
    he he he
    thanks i got it .:):):)

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 10:45 #
  26. shirazi
    Member

    How many votes did pti got yesterday in Pindi?

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 11:26 #
  27. Shirzi bhai ,
    Aah ko chahiye aik omar asar honay tak
    kon jeeta hay teri zulf kay sar honay tak

    yani kay abhi PTI pe anay aur loser partiyon ko chornay ko aik arsa aur darkar hay .

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 11:34 #
  28. wantinsaf
    Member

    @Shirazi

    It did not take part in election.

    As PTI is about to start a compaign for mid term election so it doesn't make any sense to take part in By election.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 11:45 #
  29. siddiqi73
    Member

    @wantinsaf,

    Bro, that's one helluva a sweeping statement you have made upstairs; mind telling me as to how y'all have discerned that mid-terms are gonna take place anytime soon?

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 11:55 #
  30. siddiqi73
    Member

    @shirazi,

    BTW, Imran Khan's new ally Sheikh Rasheed and his party APML secured a total of 741 votes from that Pindi election yesterday.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 11:57 #
  31. jazitum
    Blocked

    I will only say that imran khan little bit mad person kyuk jab zardari ki hakumat abi khatam hogai to wo mazloom ban jaye ga phir log kahen gay ppp kay sath zayati hue Imran pagal na ban or 5 saal pury karny dai zardari ko is ka hameesha kay pata saf hojaye ga jahil imran khan dafer unsuond man bewaquf Altaf to khud killer hai wo karachi par qabza chahta hai isliye usny army ko bulaya Aqal kay andhay imran khan pata tujy kab aqal aye gi gawar Imran khan yad rakhna jab Guth banta hai usmain bury log bi hotain hain or achay bi isliye ap yeh nh keh skty kay ap ki party Angels ki hai gawar Imran khan little mad person

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 12:02 #
  32. salaudin
    Member

    Let me be clear about PTI's mid-term elections stance (as I have watched it on various TV programs ), IK said that mid-term elections are the only "peaceful" way out of this mess otherwise the only option left is a bloody revolution.
    Do any of you any other solution, apart from bloody revolution, to come out of this mess (it is an honest question)? I personally do not that's why I agree with his demand of mid-term elections.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 12:27 #
  33. shirazi
    Member

    @wantinsaf

    I remember statement from Imran in very recent past that from now on we will take part in every election including by elections. So there is again a slight shift in policy. PTI will not take part in elections until mid term?

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 13:31 #
  34. wantinsaf
    Member

    @shirazi

    yeap.
    If the Govt manages to survive and looks stable as it was in 2008,then PTi might review its policy.If the same goes on,it won't take part and rather advocate mid term as solution to current political crises.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 13:35 #
  35. siddiqi73
    Member

    @wantinsaf,

    Lol, that's a rather face saving policy of loosing one by-election after another.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 13:37 #
  36. aftab arif
    Member

    Imran has really got this all wrong, he needs to throw his weight behind the government finishing it's 5 year tenure, no matter how bad things get. Imran is playing into the hands of corrupt politicians and they will only use this as an excuse in future arguments that they were not allowed to finish they time in government.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 13:52 #
  37. Agree with gv

    Chosy

    Kharchay ki fikar na karo, Pakistan K election ka kharcha "Bahir Walay" kartay hein.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 13:54 #
  38. shirazi
    Member

    Mid term elections demand by who ever is a huge favor to Sharifs. They are the one who can win unless establishment keeps them out altogether. The way gulf is establishing between IK and PMLN I have serious doubts Imran himself will be able to reach to parliament.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 14:20 #
  39. @shirazi
    "I have serious doubts Imran himself will be able to reach to parliament."

    Certainly not from Lahore or Rawalpindi. As IK himself states about by-elections, all state machinery will be used to defeat him from these two places. But I think he will still be allowed to get in from some other place because that will serve the interests of PML-N better -- easier to sideline him if he is part of the parliament that you completely control...

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 14:26 #
  40. toamin
    member

    no mid-term elections.. let the people see the failure of PML-N, PPP, MQM, JUI, ANP

    let the people see failure of democracy once for all!

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Aug 2010 14:29 #
  41. coolbema
    Member

    Well mid term elections only lead PML-N in Parliament.

    Posted 1 year ago on 27 Aug 2010 22:22 #
  42. azeem20
    Member

    Mid term election might be the way out of this situation, but can anyone tell when 32 districtss have been affected extremely by flood, people are dislocated, all infrastructure is damaged, all government offices are evacuated and destroyed by flood, data is lost. how come election will be held in such situation.

    Posted 1 year ago on 28 Aug 2010 9:23 #

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