MQM's Altaf whines that FIA, IB sent reports against MQM's terror wing to UK

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MQM's Altaf whines that FIA, IB sent reports against MQM's terror wing to UK

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d0ct0r
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FIA, IB sent reports against MQM to UK: Altaf

http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=8252&Cat=13

MQM's absconding British leader Altaf whines that FIA,IB have sent reports to UK about MQM's involvement in target killing, violent terrorist activities and extortion and about MQM's south African unit terror cell (comprising of hardened absconding criminals) which is involved in majority of target killings and violent bloodshed and conveniently moves in and out of Karachi after carrying out the voilent tasks assigned to them by MQM's absconding British leadership operating out of their hideout in London.

Joint Interrogation Reports 2010 – Karachi Target Killers Exposed!

Senate's standing committee on interior concerned about MQM's south african assassins activities in Karachi

Violence: Suspects from an African country involved,Interpol contacted says Rehman Malik

MQM's South Africa unit's target killers operating in Karachi : Even Rehman Malik Agrees

Interior Ministry's official report blames MQM militants for target killings

Killer alleges MQM has militant wing

26 target killers shook Karachi

http://pkpolitics.com/2011/04/14/karachi-target-killers-1-to-5/

http://pkpolitics.com/2011/04/16/karachi-target-killers-6-to-10/

http://pkpolitics.com/2011/04/20/karachi-target-killers-11-to-15/

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 4:25 #
msyedh
Member

If this is true, then it will be real test for UK authorities to prove that they are serious about terrorism. Because MQM is ruthless terrorist mafia, posing as political party. MQM leadership is controlling all their criminals from London headquarter.

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 8:28 #
2011pakistan
Member

UK has been backing MQM since 1992.

Zardari, FIA, IB can not be successful to convince UK against Altaf Hussain,
its useless effort.

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 8:56 #
faheemshah
Member

I agree with all three comments, its test for UK authorities if they are serious about terrorism. But I dont think they are, as 2011pakistan said they are backing MQM. I dont event have confidence in their ability. d0ct0r easily found MQM "absconding” behaviour but they didn’t. Some found Imran Farooq murder linked to rows within MQM but they didn’t. JIT also very easily got evidence that MQM members are trained in India, not sure if they'll agree to this either. (Do we have any formal protest to India though?)

Hey d0ct0r, your post is well engineered. Hate would only eat you.

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 14:49 #
Sharif Aadmi
Member

If there were any proofs at all , UK would definately take notice but if these are proofs which can't even stand pakistani judiciary , then they are defainately bound to go into trash bin.

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 14:51 #
msyedh
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Sharif Aadmi
There are millions of proofs against MQM terrorism. But western governments never want to take action against MQM, because they are using MQM as pressure and terror group to force and control Pakistan authorities for war on terror.

In past, Pakistani government never contacted UK government for MQM terrorism. This is first time, that government is providing evidences against terror mafia. we have to see, how uk government can ignore these evidences against MQM.

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 16:56 #
Anwer Kamal
Member

I am surprised.
How can they send such reports in presence of Rehman Malik.

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 17:04 #
msyedh
Member

Anwer Kamal
Yes, i am doubtful too. it is almost impossible for Zardari and Rehman Malik.

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 17:09 #
Anwer Kamal
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And no one can do it without approval of establishment

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 17:58 #
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Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 18:09 #
Sharif Aadmi
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msyedh
"
There are millions of proofs against MQM terrorism.
"

In which courts these proofs were presented and accepted ? just few example.

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 18:55 #
spruce
Member

uk is tool but actual behind the scene total involvement found from israil via india

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 20:58 #
msyedh
Member

@Sharif Aadmi
This is main issue here, that MQM is ruthless criminal Mafia. Nobody is showing courage to bring these proofs in court. even courts are afraid from this criminal mafia. Everybody knows, what happened to that police officers, whom took action in 1996 operation against MQM criminals. Later they were killed by MQM criminal mafia with approval of @Nawaz Sharif.

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 21:06 #
semirza
Moderator

@irshad
Yes, UK is using 'asylum' as a tool and so are other countries.

Posted 9 months ago on 20 Aug 2011 21:07 #
Sharif Aadmi
Member

msyedh

SC of Pakistan held that operation in Karachi 94-96 was extra-judicical killings.

NOw , if people were martyered by those criminal police officers and afterwards surviviors of those martyers took their revenge , how can MQM or NS be held responsible ?

Posted 9 months ago on 21 Aug 2011 1:52 #
spruce
Member

There is lobby in establishment, who is supporting MQM for their personal aim, there is possibility to eliminate such mafia party if those elements in establishment play neutral rule for the sake of Pakistan and support any govt to kick out such killers from their hide-outs to save the lives of innocence families.

There is no doubt that a lot of mobsters busy in killings but they are reacting for their survival against MQM Mafia, if MQM remain composed all will keep on at their peaceful atmosphere.

The question rose in the mind of every core that, if all the ethnics in the city are against word muhajirs or MQM then why they not made criminal activities to destabilize MQM power with mushraf.

My answer will be:
1. Establishment controlled the city during Mushraf tenure with the help of other parties, if so then why same establishment not taking part to calm down the situation. This means those elements of establishment who were always anti ppp using MQM for their dirty purpose and killing the innocence people in the city.
2. All which shows that all ethnics are peaceful except MQM who are not accepting other to govern the city.

If all the above are valid reasons then I appeal all families who took the dead bodies of their lovers on their shoulders must revenge and kill the contract killers because their silence will encourage the killers.

Posted 9 months ago on 21 Aug 2011 2:15 #
Sharif Aadmi
Member

Irshad

MQM was there long before birth of mushraf on national scene.

First election MQM won was 87 local bodies and before mush it won in 87,88,90,93,97.

And about establishment , what about army operation in 92 to 96/7 and creation of haqiqi by establishment ?

Posted 9 months ago on 21 Aug 2011 2:37 #
scindian
Member

MQM has full support of Britishers and American intelligence agencies. no need to give reports to them.

Posted 9 months ago on 21 Aug 2011 10:55 #
d0ct0r
Member

Riot footage shows shots fired at police and helicopter

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/20/riot-footage-shots-fired-police

CCTV footage of the riots in Birmingham UK shows police officers and a force helicopter being shot at by masked rioters.

Police there desperately wants public's help to identify these masked criminals so that they could be nabbed and busted

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Now here we have MQMized terrorists ambushing and shooting at bus full of policemen,killing and injuring almost 30 of them.

Britain needs to do away with double standard and stop giving sanctuary and safe haven to these notorious MQMized criminals. Just imagine if Pakistan gives asylum and refuge to all these criminal rioters from Tottenham and Birmingham,all hell would broke loose,Pakistan would be declared as terrorist state for 'giving refuge to terrorists and arsonist'.

So Britain needs to grow up and revoke the nationality of these MQM's criminal leadership,MQMized apologists and sympathizer and hand them over to Karachiites so that we can deal with them ourselves..

Posted 9 months ago on 21 Aug 2011 21:24 #
Sharif Aadmi
Member

doctor

Your circular references to your own posts don't constitute any proof.

And in all the references , where it proves that MQM hijacked the bus or was burning the buses.

U quoted incidents of 14th jul , 2011. Btw, it was wedding on that very day and i myself witness to all what was happening. My wedding hall was at 5star chowrangi where 9 busess of 2k route were burnt. But where does it prove that it was mqm who was doing it ?

Mate, your hatred doesn't constitute any proof. Come up with something which could stand in a court of law .

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 2:41 #
msyedh
Member

@Sharif Aadmi
which sc or courts you are talking? whom declare that 1996 operation as extra-judicial killing?
I am sure those are same courts whom were making decisions and punishments on order of @Nawaz Sharif and @Shabaz Sharif. These orders were caughts on taps.
Of course those court will declare that operation as extra-judicial killing, on the order of @Nawaz Sharif, because that operation was done in Benazir bhutto government.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 2:51 #
Sharif Aadmi
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msyedh

I don't know which court u believe in. I was refering to SC of pakistan whose CJ was Sajjad Ali Shah at that time and verdict was given before the 97 elections.

If u believe in courts headed by HAMID KHAN or xyz i can't help u then . Sorry mate.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 2:56 #
msyedh
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@Sharif Aadmi
After dismissal of Benazir government, all system were cooperating with @Nawaz sharif and MQM, against Benazir bhutto. Courts, establishment, media and agencies were attacking and blaming to Benazir Bhutto, for everything, to defeat PPP. In those circumstances, this extra-judicial killing decision has zero credibility. Many neutral peoples are praising now that operation which killed many criminals and brought peace in Karachi.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 3:14 #
Sharif Aadmi
Member

msyedh

Since when u have become an authority to assign credibility?

May i see your gazette notification :)

Hatred has no argument.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 3:16 #
msyedh
Member

@Sharif Aadmi
I am not authority, peoples of Pakistan are authority to decide our past history. peoples are praising now that 1996 operation, which made Karachi as peaceful city. Even @Nawaz sharif don't dare to criticize that operation now.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 3:22 #
Sharif Aadmi
Member

msyedh

People of pakistan passed a decision in 97 by giving 10 out of 13 seats to MQM ( just after the operation).

They had done the same thing in 93 when MQM swept karachi even when its leadership was underground.

Then which people of pakistan u r speaking off ?

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 3:24 #
msyedh
Member

@Sharif Aadmi
Most elections in last 30 years were manipulated by agencies. These agencies even gave 2/3 majority to @Nawaz Sharif in 97 election.
But MQM needed little help from these agencies, because they have enough armed gang mafia, to control and manipulate these elections. Only one thing they were needed, to have open and free hand to activate their criminal wings. They were given full freedom to do anything they want. In result, MQM were able to have full occupancy of Karachi.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 3:45 #
Sharif Aadmi
Member

msyedh.

then hold your BRAVE ARMY responsible for fuss. Why MQM ?

Btw , how come MQM managed a vicotry in 93 when everyone was underground ?

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 3:49 #
msyedh
Member

Does not matter which election, agencies always playing roles in elections. MQM was underground in 1993 but still working with agencies.
Your Alataf Bhai have 100s criminal cases in Pakistan, He is running away from these cases, hiding in London. But Altaf Hussain has close connection with Pakistan agencies. Even both side have open meetings between Altaf Hussain and representatives of agencies.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 4:07 #
Sharif Aadmi
Member

msyedh

Having a case doesn't matter.

Basic principle of justice is " NOT GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE"

Btw, Altaf Bahi is not "My" phuppi kaa puttar.

Come up with logic & proofs. Spitting hatred and repeating unproved baseless allegations doesn't amount for anything.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 16:23 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

msyedh.

then hold your BRAVE ARMY responsible for fuss. Why MQM ?

Btw , how come MQM managed a vicotry in 93 when everyone was underground ?

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@ SharifAadmi

you are legend. hahahahahahha, completely devastated these guys with this one question. hats off. only a blind man would say that MQM does not have majority peoples support in Khi.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 18:37 #
siddiqi73
Member

@quaid,

Bro, MQM has seriously eroded its strength in Karachi by flipping back and forth to the tunes of a corrupt and an uneducated leech like Zardari; all for a few freaking meaningless ministries and governorship.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 18:49 #
semirza
Moderator

Agreed that MQM has seriously eroded its strength...as a credible political party..dancing to the tunes of Zardari. True! But this also applies to all who have allied with him and as a result have lost considerable favour from their supporters.

However, as long as Rehman Malik is present FIA or IB's report to British authourities remains doubtful.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 19:10 #
scandinavian
Member

It depends on what has been the goal of MQM. Off course they don't want to loose their "vote bank" and I think that their way of doing it is to have a little army, which can force their will on people. To achieve this goal they need to be a part of any ruling party. through ministries (power) they ensure their end goal i.e. acquiring arms is intact!

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 19:19 #
banjarbayabaan
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Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 23:46 #
Sharif Aadmi
Member

Scandinavian
"
. To achieve this goal they need to be a part of any ruling party
"
MQM was in opposition for most of decade of 90's
barring

Oct 90 to Jun 92 --( 20 months)
Feb 97 to Oct 98 -- (18 months)

total 38 months..

Not specific to my brother Scandinavian

Unfortunately , our youth(especially post march 07) are obsessed with propoganda . They haven't studied history and just go on repeating sterotype allegations.

Posted 9 months ago on 22 Aug 2011 23:51 #
Rizwan Qaimkhani
Member

Government propaganda! According to this idiot, he considers MI, ISI and IB are authentic. All these institutions are highly politicized and they have strong connections with underground Don Dawood Ibrahim. With their grand approval, he is involved in a large number of target killings. Too much for the authenticity of ISI report.

Posted 9 months ago on 23 Aug 2011 0:25 #
spruce
Member

@RQK

((((All these institutions are highly politicized and they have strong connections with underground Don Dawood Ibrahim. With their grand approval, he is involved in a large number of target killings. Too much for the authenticity of ISI report>>)))

oh::: u are talking behalf of inidan RAW who always blamed ISI for presence of Don daud ibrahim in karachi..
is it not true big don is altaf hiding and dancing at tune of foriegn agancies.

Posted 9 months ago on 23 Aug 2011 2:26 #