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Muhammad Ali Jinnah of Pakistan

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  1. scindian
    Member

    Does any body Know ?

    Mohammad Ali Jinnah was born on 25 December 1876, Sunday.
    or 25 december monday 1876 or 20 actober 1876.?[1]

    At age of five in 1881 in which primary school Muhammad Ali Jinnah got his primary education in what which medium of language.?

    What is actual Birth place Qaid Azam ?

    Wazeer mension karachi or Jhirk Thatta?[2]

    Did Jinnah envision a secular state for Pakistan ?

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    [1]paragraph No.4
    http://www.pakwatan.com/view_detail.php?id=468

    [2]http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Jhirk

    Posted 1 year ago on 14 Aug 2010 10:42 #

  2. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Why should any Pakistani pay attention to any of this ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 14 Aug 2010 11:22 #

  3. gunnerz30
    Member

    @HARIS
    because its about history.... and because its abt QUAID-E-AZAM...... that s why..... ure point of view (the one of the SP-CALLED DEEN-DAAR PEOPLE) was rubished by the muslims of united India when "KAFFIR-E-AZAM" party got 90% of the Muslim vote in the 1945 election

    Posted 1 year ago on 15 Aug 2010 16:42 #

  4. alirazaster
    Disabled upon Request

    jis thaali say khana khatay hain usi pe laat maartay hain

    gar Quaid nay ye Pakistan na diya hota, jis ka hum aaj bera ghark kernay mein lagay hain, tou shayad aaj bhi hindustan k jootay saaf ker rahay hotay

    or ye wohi loag hotay jo ghaaron or paharon say nikal ker pakistan ki hukoomat per qaabiz hona chahtay hain, islam k rakhwalay bantay hain or jin ki shaklon per phitkaar hai

    or pakistan k jis hissay mein in ki aksariat hai, wo partition k khilaaf thaa... aaj power ki hiras mein ye apni taareekh bhool chukay hain, or doosron ko bewaqoof samajhtay hain

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Aug 2010 0:56 #

  5. wantinsaf
    Member

    No one can claim Quaid e Azam wanted a secular state.What does the word 'Pakistan' mean.It is not a secular word.It mens 'land of pak'.Pak is very much Islamic word.

    Have you ever read about Two Nation Theory?
    Quaid e Azam said "Muslims and Hindus can never live together as Muslims eat meat of cows while hindus worship it".Is this a secular contention?The answer is a big No.

    If Quaid e Azam wanted a secualr state,then what was point in getting Pakistan?A secualr would always prefer to live with Non Muslims rather than forming a Muslim state.

    Yes,it it true Quaid did not want a state for implementing Sharia.But at the same time he did not want a secular state.
    Pakistan was got with solgan like "Pakistan ka matlab kia,la illaha illallah".
    Quaid wanted a country where we Muslims could show the world that how Islam can bring prosperity to the nation if it is embedded within democracy.

    Quaid nowhere used the word secular in his speaches precisely.Why did not he do that?was he afraid of someone?

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Aug 2010 6:08 #

  6. shafiq12
    member

    Sar Rizvi

    gar Quaid nay ye Pakistan na diya hota, jis ka hum aaj bera ghark kernay mein lagay hain, tou shayad aaj bhi hindustan k jootay saaf ker rahay hotay

    Why u think that Quaid e Azam Had Given us Pakistan, WHY U don't think It is the Blessing of Allah for those People who want to Established Deen of Allah in Pakistan, but unfortunately after 64 years we proved our selves a real Hypocr!te? We forget our real Purpose but we tried to remember Allama Iqbal and Quaid e Azam by Celebrating their days

    1. We remember Qauid e Azam and 14 August

    2. We forget Allah and his messenger

    3. We celebrate pakistan days

    4. We kill and Help Kuffars (Like America) in Murdering our own Brothers

    5. The First wrath of Allah fell upon us when we tried to Help America in October 2005

    Detail is given as under

    A powerful 7.6 magnitude earthquake struck the India-Pakistan border with more than 140 aftershocks, causing extensive damage in Pakistan, India and Afghanistan.

    After the event of Lal Masjid for the Hypocrisy of Goverment, The second Wrath of Allah comes

    Prepare of More?

    [وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يَقُولُ ءَامَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَبِالْيَوْمِ الأْخِرِ وَمَا هُم بِمُؤْمِنِينَ - يُخَـدِعُونَ اللَّهَ وَالَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا وَمَا يَخْدَعُونَ إلاَّ أَنفُسَهُمْ وَمَا يَشْعُرُونَ ]
    (8. And of mankind, there are some who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day'' while in fact they do not believe). (9. They try to deceive Allah and those who believe, while they only deceive themselves, and perceive (it) not!)

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Aug 2010 6:38 #

  7. scindian
    Member

    Pakistan is changing its idiology involunterly and acepting secular traits. but unfortunatly in 20 century Pakistan with 2 % graduades could not produce new Idias to florish in current new world order. In such a backward society, where intellectuals and politicians sticked with the past and propogate outdated and rusted ideas.

    Hero worship is not the solution to our problems. New challenges require new ideas. Muhammad Ali Jinnah alone cannot help us get rid of our present problems.[1]

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/39079/jinnah%E2%80%99s-pakistan/

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Aug 2010 11:45 #

  8. alirazaster
    Disabled upon Request

    Allah helps those who help themselves
    muslims of the sub continent fought for a seperate homeland in the name of Islam under the leadership of people like Jinnah, Iqbal, LAK...
    those nations who dont preserve history and learn from it face this mess that we are doing today... instead of carrying on the vision of Quaid under whose leadership we got this poor beautiful country..... we argue over his personality, his character...
    whatever he was, whatever religion he followed.... he was the leader that Allah gifted us with to achieve independence from united india

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Aug 2010 14:16 #

  9. azeem20
    Member

    it is 100% islam to thank someone who has given you some help etc. so if we thank Quaid e Azam where does it means that we are ignoring Allah. Allah has blessed us leader like Quaid e Azam and you people are trying to manipulate this simple thing. so sad.
    in normal life we thanked our parents or teachers or friends, have you ever put your well wishers against Allah as you are doing in this thread. shame.

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Aug 2010 17:54 #

  10. scindian
    Member

    Simple history of Pakistan.

    Subject Pakistan studies was introduced by Bhutto regime (1970's) after indapendance of Bangladesh out Pakistan this separation created idiological crises for existance of Pakistan among the Pakistani youth.

    you are victimized by old rusted false pakistan studies where true heros who strugled for Pakistan has been ignored.

    Qaud Azam dint do struggle for pakistan alone, there ware Bangalis too who were founders of All india Muslim Legue initial motto of Muslim Legue was to provide Job secuirty for Muslim in Central superior services [css]

    Then Mulim Legue suported by Sir Agha khan and other rich people to secure thier trade market.

    After some time this moment hi-ject by Muslims of CP [india]
    but soon after Indapendance Muslim legue accupied by Panjab by the ways of strog Militry and civil beurocracy.

    Sindh had no role in making of Pakistan upto 1938.

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Aug 2010 19:00 #

  11. scindian
    Member

    I know this is no suitable time to discuss such issues
    I want to close this thread because of current hevoc on Pkistan, group members have no access to close this post.

    Good nite

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Aug 2010 19:06 #

  12. semirza
    Moderator

    @scindian
    As you wish. This thead is closed.

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Aug 2010 20:22 #

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