The U.N. commission, which looked into the facts and circumstance of the 2007 assassination of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto has held General(R) Pervez Musharraf's government responsible for the killings of former premier Benazir Bhutto. The details of the report states that the security provided to her by the government was inadequate and the report further suggest that her personal security provided by PPP was inadequate from preventing the tragedy to take place.
The U.N. commission, presented its much-awaited report to Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Thursday evening. Official said the UN chief was set to hand over the report to Pakistan’s UN Ambassador Abdullah Hussain Haroon and also transmitted it to the members of the Security Council for information.
An hour later, Ambassador Heraldo Munoz of Chile, who headed the three-member commission, is scheduled to brief reporters on the findings.
The panel was initially scheduled to deliver its findings to the Secretary-General on March 30, but agreed to delay it for two weeks following a request from Islamabad.
The former prime minister returned home in October 2007 from a eight-year stay abroad.
She was killed at a rally in Rawalpindi on December 27, 2007 when a bomber blew himself up near her vehicle.
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Musharraf govt blamed for assassination of BB - U.N Comission Report Released
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Posted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 8:40 #
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Iss Ka Tu Pahlay Hi Pata Thaa
why Zardari wasted million of dollars?
سکیورٹی کا غیرتسلی بخش انتظام بےنظیربھٹو کےقتل کا سبب بنا: اقوامِ متحدہ تحقیقاتی کمیشن رپورٹ
http://www1.voanews.com/urdu/news/world/un_pakistan_benazir_bhutto_death_inadequate_security_15thapril2010-90988924.html
تفتیش کاروں نے اس امر کو بھی سرے سے مسترد کردیا کہ اس قتل میں اسٹیبلشمنٹ کے عناصر شامل ہوسکتے ہیں، بشمول ان تین افراد کے جن کے نام بینظیر بھٹو نے مشرف کو لکھے گئے خط میں خود لیے تھے۔
ہیرالڈو منوز میں یہ بھی کہا گیا کہ ایسے کوئی شواہد نہیں ملے کہ کہا جائے کہ صدر آصف زرداری یا ان کے خاندان کا کوئی فرد اس واقعے میں ملوث ہو سکتا ہے۔
کمیشن کے مطابق یہ بات بھی پریشان کن ہے کہ کیوں ان تمام افراد، گروہوں اور اسٹیبلشمنٹ کے حصوں کی تفتیش نہیں کی گئی جن سے بینظیر بھٹو کی جان کو خطرات لاحق تھے اور جن کے بارے میں انہوں نے جنرل مشرف کو اپنے خط میں آگاہ کیا تھا۔
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/04/100415_benazir_un_report.shtml
A diplomatic report by UNO, I am happy you are happy lets move onPosted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 10:23 # -
mushraff says i m living a good life,i have made everty thing to live.
what if u blame me or not
Posted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 11:00 # -
wantinsaf
MemberAgain tax payers money has gone wasted.
God help us get rid of such corrupt,incompetent and dishonest leaders.
This report doesn't answer the fundamental questio who killed her.We the tax payers want to know who killed her.
It was just common sense that there were security lapses then waht was the need of such rubbish?UN commision needs to improve its standard and we Pakistanis need to learn.
Zardari seems to be killer,but we don't have any proof.Posted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 11:17 # -
Hussain Farooqui
MemberAll such type of investigations are mere waste of national resources. During Musharaff's regime, waste of resources was done on Scotland Yard. Now in Zardari's regime, resources were wasted again on the UN team.
It is the right of every citizen to ask," What is the outcome of this waste of national resources?" The taxes collected from our hard earned money are wasted on such futile things.
Posted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 12:21 # -
What has been the outcome of this waste of national resources!
Just one declaration out of this UN investigation. The report did what it was meant for. A much needed clearance of Zardari's name being the sole benefactor of Z.A.Bhutto's wealth and property by killing Murtaza Bhutto (first) and then Benazir Bhutto.
Posted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 16:52 # -
New Pakistan
MemberUN Report a Blistering Indictment of Musharraf
The United Nations finally released the much anticipated Report of the United Nations Commission of Inquiry into the facts and circumstances of the assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto yesterday, and delivered a blistering indictment of Gen. Musharraf and the establishment under his regime. The inescapable conclusion is that Gen. Musharraf and the political establishment of his regime facilitated the murder of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto either through direct conspiracy with the attackers or by refusing to provide her security, in effect knowingly facilitating the attack that took her life.
Some people will read the report and say that there is nothing new - that the UN report does not point any fingers. But this is a misunderstanding of how the process works at such a high diplomatic level as the United Nations.
The report was never intended to replace a trial and conviction. That would need to come as the result of a proper legal trial in a Pakistani court. The report makes this clear in multiple places:
It remains the responsibility of the Pakistani authorities to carry out a serious, credible criminal investigation that determines who conceived, ordered and executed this heinous crime of historic proportions, and brings those responsible to justice.
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It is essential that the perpetrators of the assassination of Benazir Bhutto be brought to justice. The Pakistani authorities should ensure that the further investigation into the assassination of Ms Bhutto is fully empowered and resourced and is conducted expeditiously and comprehensively, at all levels, without hindrance.
and again
A determination of criminal responsibility for planning, organizing, funding, supporting and carrying out the assassination can only be made by the competent authorities of Pakistan. This Commission has neither the authority nor the means to reach such conclusions. Indeed, if it were to do so, it could jeopardize future prosecutions or make it difficult for future accused persons to receive fair trials.
What the UN report provides is similar to an official inquiry or committal procedure that gathers and examines the evidence to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to bring a charge and commit someone to trial. The conclusion of the report is clear: General Musharraf and the political establishment of his government - at a minimum - willfully and knowingly let Benazir Bhutto be murdered.
The report reached the following conclusions:
1. "Ms Bhutto's assassination could have been prevented if adequate security measures had been taken."
2. "Responsibility for Ms Bhutto's security on the day of her assassination rested with the federal Government, the government of Punjab and the Rawalpindi District Police. None of these entities took the necessary measures to respond to the extraordinary, fresh and urgent security risks that they knew she faced."
3. "While she died when a 15 and a half year-old suicide bomber detonated his explosives near her vehicle, no one believes that this boy acted alone."
4. "The Commission believes that the failure of the police to investigate effectively Ms Bhutto's assassination was deliberate."
After reading the entire report, it is impossible to believe that the report does not openly condemn Gen. Musharraf and some elements of the intelligence agencies under his control. The terms "whitewash" and "cover up" are used explicitly to refer to actions taken by the authorities.
The report further goes on to describe the press conference, which was the decision made by General Musharraf, during a meeting on the morning of 28 December at a facility in General Headquarters "prejudiced the investigation and eroded public confidence." This could be called a smokescreen meant to confuse and draw attention away from those actually responsible.
The report also puts to rest conspiracy theories which have persisted. But the report is very clear that there is no evidence for these.
These include other governments and Bhutto family members, close associates and security aides. The majority of these hypotheses do not assert any basis in evidence, with some seeking to do no more than name persons believed to have benefited in some way from Ms Bhutto’s death, including those closest to her. The stubborn persistence of these hypotheses is attributable almost entirely to the abject failure of the government authorities at the time to carry out an investigation with vigour and integrity.
Zardari in particular is vindicated by the report, which disproves conspiracy theories about his declining an autopsy for his wife. In fact, the report goes further than only disproving this conspiracy, describing the situation as a plot against Zardari.
"CPO Saud Aziz placed Mr Zardari in an impossible situation - one which almost compelled Mr Zardari to refuse the request for an autopsy."
"The subsequent letter by the IGP, Punjab reiterating the misleading summary of events set out in CPO Saud Aziz’s letter reflects the willingness of his administrative superior to further this shift of responsibility and perpetrate a cover-up of the true reason behind the lack of a post-mortem examination."
Political opponents of the PPP will almost assuredly try to place some blame on PPP for not providing good enough security for Bhutto themselves. But this is also a distraction from the truth. Actually, the UN report clearly says,
The PPP is a political party, not a security agency. The responsibility for Ms Bhutto’s security rested with the government.
The UN report is open to the public, and its conclusions are clear for those who have the courage to read them. Now that we have this evidence before us - and the before the world - we must take the only logical step and issue arrest warrants for those responsible. There must be a full and legitimate criminal investigation and trial, and the murderers of Benazir Bhutto must face justice.
Posted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 18:15 # -
tamaazkhan
Member1. "Ms Bhutto's assassination could have been prevented if adequate security measures had been taken."
WOW, how much money did they spend to come to this ground breaking conclusion?
We didn't need a UN fact finding mission to ascertain that security provided to its citizens by the government of Pakistan is woefully inadequate.
You can see it every day, today in Quetta for example!
Musharraf government is as responsible for BB's death as the current Zardari led PPP government is resposible for the 6000+ killed in terrorist attacks unders its tenure and the attack on the Sri-Lankan cricket team.
@New Pakistan
How about the following nuggets in the report "RE: Inadquate Security Measures"?
"Mr Asif Ali Zardari, Ms Bhutto’s husband, was deeply involved in planning Ms Bhutto’s security for her return to Pakistan. Ms Bhutto and Mr Zardari relied to a significant extent on persons close to them to plan and organize the PPP’s security for her. They included former senior FIA official Mr Rehman Malik and Sindh PPP leaders Mr Zulfikar Ali Mirza and Mr Agha Sirraj Durrani."
"Its (PPP) own provision of security was characterized by disorganization and a lack of professionalism. Each senior PPP official the Commission spoke with on this issue described the PPP security arrangements differently."
"His (Rehman Malik) departure from the scene at Rawalpindi after the attack allowed her damaged vehicle to become isolated. The rapid departure of the only back up vehicle, in which Mr Malik and other senior PPP leaders rode, was a serious security lapse."
The only way Zaradri and his cronies are absolved from this report is if you buy the argument that THEY HAD NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SAFTEY OF BENAZIR!
Posted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 19:22 # -
New Pakistan
Member@tamaazkhan Nice try. Perhaps you should read the whole report, though. The report says very clearly,
The PPP is a political party, not a security agency. The responsibility for Ms Bhutto’s security rested with the government.
Who had the responsibility for providing security? The report is clear:
Responsibility for Ms Bhutto’s security on the day of her assassination rested with the federal Government, the government of Punjab and the Rawalpindi District Police. None of these entities took necessary measures to respond to the extraordinary, fresh and urgent security risks that they knew she faced.
So, no, it was not the job of Zardari to secure Benazir. The report clearly says that all other former PMs were given adequate security, only Musharraf refused to provide this for BB.
Also, it says that your conspiracies about Zardari are just made up garbage.
224. The assassination of Ms Bhutto has led to a proliferation of hypotheses regarding possible perpetrators. These include other governments and Bhutto family members, close associates and security aides. The majority of these hypotheses do not assert any basis in evidence, with some seeking to do no more than name persons believed to have benefited in some way from Ms Bhutto’s death, including those closest to her. The stubborn persistence of these hypotheses is attributable almost entirely to the abject failure of the government authorities at the time to carry out an investigation with vigour and integrity. The Commission need not address each of these many theories in turn. It is sufficient to note that the proper response is an unfettered criminal investigation – a meaningful search for truth – which has thus far been frustrated.
You can continue to make up silly stories or you can be reasonable and face the facts. The report is 70 pages of indictments against Musharraf and ISI. Why can't you admit this?
Posted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 19:38 # -
tamaazkhan
Member@New Pakistan:
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The report clearly states:
"Ms Bhutto’s assassination could have been prevented if adequate security measures had been taken."We all know the government does not provide adequate security to its citizens, we see it every day, the report spent our tax money to tell us that?
Benazir knew this so did those in PPP responsible for her security. Taking these facts into account, are you saying Zardari and his merry freinds had NO RESPONSIBILITY to protect BB?
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No where did I make up any conspiracy against zardari all I did was quote from the report:"Mr Asif Ali Zardari, Ms Bhutto’s husband, was deeply involved in planning Ms Bhutto’s security for her return to Pakistan. Ms Bhutto and Mr Zardari relied to a significant extent on persons close to them to plan and organize the PPP’s security for her. They included former senior FIA official Mr Rehman Malik and Sindh PPP leaders Mr Zulfikar Ali Mirza and Mr Agha Sirraj Durrani."
"Its (PPP) own provision of security was characterized by disorganization and a lack of professionalism. Each senior PPP official the Commission spoke with on this issue described the PPP security arrangements differently."
"His (Rehman Malik) departure from the scene at Rawalpindi after the attack allowed her damaged vehicle to become isolated. The rapid departure of the only back up vehicle, in which Mr Malik and other senior PPP leaders rode, was a serious security lapse."
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It was the responsbility of the Goverment to protect its citizens and even though they are "fully aware of and
tracking the serious threats" to our citizens we have terrorist attacks every day.So, extending that logic:
Is the current PPP government to blame for the 6000+ deaths in our country due to terrorism and the Sri Lanka team incident?Posted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 20:47 # -
New Pakistan
Member@tamaazkhan LOL!!! Okay, bhai, let me help you.
1. This is such a poor excuse that I cannot believe that you actually think this way. Musharraf and the security forces under him told BB that they would provide VVIP security as it was their responsibility. Then they did not provide anything, even though they provided the same to others, and they let BB be murdered.
2. So now you are denying your attempt to try to make some blame for Zardari? Fine. My point was well made and you can not refute it.
3. Once again, it is a good try, but your logic is fatally flawed because you are missing the most important point. The government is actively fighting against the the perpetrators of the 6000+ deaths in our country due to terrorism and the Sri Lanka team incident. Musharraf and his ISI cronies actively refused to do anything to protect Benazir. Therefore, Musharraf is responsible. Big difference I would have to say.
Posted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 21:02 # -
max786
MemberI smell rat. Mr Zardari is winner in the report that was the reason he delay the report. I agree with Patriot 100%.
Posted 2 years ago on 16 Apr 2010 23:39 # -
tamaazkhan
Member@New Pakistan
1. Why did BB call out Musharraf's name, as one who will kill her, if she trusted his promises to protect her?
2. You can infer what you like, these are quotes from the report:
"Mr Asif Ali Zardari, Ms Bhutto’s husband, was deeply involved in planning Ms Bhutto’s security for her return to Pakistan. Ms Bhutto and Mr Zardari relied to a significant extent on persons close to them to plan and organize the PPP’s security for her. They included former senior FIA official Mr Rehman Malik and Sindh PPP leaders Mr Zulfikar Ali Mirza and Mr Agha Sirraj Durrani."
"Its (PPP) own provision of security was characterized by disorganization and a lack of professionalism. Each senior PPP official the Commission spoke with on this issue described the PPP security arrangements differently."
"His (Rehman Malik) departure from the scene at Rawalpindi after the attack allowed her damaged vehicle to become isolated. The rapid departure of the only back up vehicle, in which Mr Malik and other senior PPP leaders rode, was a serious security lapse."
3. Musharraf was drone bombing TTP during during his tenure as well. If BB dying during his tenure is his fault. Sri Lankan team and 6000+ terror related deaths are Zardari's fault.
Posted 2 years ago on 17 Apr 2010 3:41 # -
New Pakistan
Member@tamaazkhan
1. Okay, so now you are saying that Musharraf killed BB.
2. I am not infering anything. Actually it is you who is making decision by inference. You are selectively quoting a few observations from a 70 page report, and you are ignoring the very clearly stated parts that contradict the conclusion that you wish for. No one suggests that PPP provided security that was as good as should have been provided. How could they? PPP is no security agency. PPP is no intelligence agency. PPP is no police force. Would you ask a school teacher to build you a car? It makes no sense. Read the full report, brother, and do not just repeat the one sentence that you like.
The report says very clearly,
The PPP is a political party, not a security agency. The responsibility for Ms Bhutto’s security rested with the government.
Who had the responsibility for providing security? The report is clear:
Responsibility for Ms Bhutto’s security on the day of her assassination rested with the federal Government, the government of Punjab and the Rawalpindi District Police. None of these entities took necessary measures to respond to the extraordinary, fresh and urgent security risks that they knew she faced.
3. Your logic is horrible. You are ignoring the fact that Musharraf had prior knowledge of imminent attacks on BB and consciously chose not to do anything. It is as if you have a ward and some man comes to you and says, "I am going to kill your ward when he goes to school." and you say, "Okay." You had a responsibility to protect your ward, but you willfully and knowingly neglected to do anything which resulted in the ward's death. So you are responsible.
But I don't believe that logic matters to you. I think you are only concerned with protecting Musharraf and condemning Zardari. Okay. That is who you are. Khoda Hafez, brother.
Posted 2 years ago on 17 Apr 2010 11:54 # -
1. To fix the responsibility of BB's protection to the Jyalas of PPP is just like to advise the people of Pakistan to protect them at their own from an external aggression where the Pakistan Military won't be responsible for any devastation.
2. It is like asking civilians to make private arrangements for the protection of their family where Police won't be responsible to take care.
3. "The PPP is a political party, not a security agency."
4. There is one more interesting point to consider where most of Pro-Musharraf (PMLQ) Election campaign was running free of any incident or threat.
5. There are reasons to believe that both of the attacks on BB, (October 18 and December 27), were conducted by professionally trained groups.
Posted 2 years ago on 17 Apr 2010 12:14 # -
Lets us put the record straight: Possibly how one can bring Musharraf name in it when prior to BB assassination date 27 December 2007, he had already handed over the military charge to General Kayani and there was an interim government in place in the country head by Mr Mohammad Mian Soomro.
Posted 2 years ago on 17 Apr 2010 12:51 # -
Read third last and last news...
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/apr2010-daily/17-04-2010/main3.htm
Posted 2 years ago on 17 Apr 2010 13:17 # -
@yahyah87
If Mushy the thug wasn't involve at all then why do u think the investigation team of UN had lied in this report?:s...did he steal their cow or bakra that they took a revenge by taking his name here?:s
Posted 2 years ago on 17 Apr 2010 13:27 # -
third last is about Pakhtunkhawa
Posted 2 years ago on 17 Apr 2010 13:30 # -
The Grand Plan to kill BB was already finalized prior to her arrival in Pakistan.
The first failed attempt was executed immediately, on October 18 in Karachi by professionals.
The second attempt on December 27, in Rawalpindi, the Headquarter of ISI and Pakistan Military, was more organized, well planned and well supervised.
In each country of the World, Military Establishments consist of different sections, working independently within the same framework but protect secrecy about special assignments.
Posted 2 years ago on 17 Apr 2010 13:30 # -
naseemkhanan
MemberSoon after BB’s assassination her bodyguard was also murdered in mysterious circumstances.
Why and by whom Murtaza's was murdered. Why BB kept Zardari away from power politics, Bhutto's family fortunes and political status. It all looks like the one who claimed to know does really knows who murdered BB.
Intelligence agencies from Pakistan and abroad warned BB but she won't care she could be targeted.
'The PPP is a political party, not a security agency.'
Still that does not make a political party immune to in-house conspiracies hatched and power plots executed. More fingers are pointing towards Zardari and 'barey kam ka admi' that is Rehman Malik then ever before. Why Rehman Malik fled the scene? Where is that armed vehicle?
Isn’t it an inside job? Suicide bomber blew himself up without any harm to those inside the vehicle yet BB was successfully targeted! Shots were also fired.
One should watch facial expressions of Zardari when he announced he won’t allow an autopsy. He looks as nothing has happened and it was not BB his wife he was talking about but somebody else not related to him.Posted 2 years ago on 17 Apr 2010 14:24 # -
The propaganda of allegations against Zardari, Rahman Malik, Bait Ullah Masood and some related conspiracy theories were immediately released and floated at the media, just a few hours after BB's murder.
It means the cover-up story was also preplanned
This also makes a VERY STRONG evidence to point out the real culprits who started the process of brainwashing to divert and make situation, more cloudy.
Autopsy, a prerequisite to find the clues of murder, should have been performed without the permission of any family member.
No consent is required for that.
It was a professional obligation of the medical staff at the hospital.Posted 2 years ago on 17 Apr 2010 14:47 # -
tamaazkhan
Member@New Pakistan
'You are ignoring the fact that Musharraf had prior knowledge of imminent attacks on BB and consciously chose not to do anything.'
Sir I mentioned that the Government was at fault for not providing adequate security.
THAT IS FACT, but we don't need a UN investigation to prove that, we see that every day.But Zaradri also had 'had prior knowledge of imminent attacks on BB' and BB called out Musharraf's name, as one who would be responsible for her death, obviously she did not trust Musharraf's guarantees of protection.
Therefore I imagine BB would have relied more heavily on Zardari for her safety, Yes or No?
The report is clear:
"Mr Asif Ali Zardari, Ms Bhutto’s husband, was deeply involved in planning Ms Bhutto’s security for her return to Pakistan. Ms Bhutto and Mr Zardari relied to a significant extent on persons close to them to plan and organize the PPP’s security for her. They included former senior FIA official Mr Rehman Malik and Sindh PPP leaders Mr Zulfikar Ali Mirza and Mr Agha Sirraj Durrani."
"Its (PPP) own provision of security was characterized by disorganization and a lack of professionalism. Each senior PPP official the Commission spoke with on this issue described the PPP security arrangements differently."
"His (Rehman Malik) departure from the scene at Rawalpindi after the attack allowed her damaged vehicle to become isolated. The rapid departure of the only back up vehicle, in which Mr Malik and other senior PPP leaders rode, was a serious security lapse."
Despite their failure to protect BB, Rehman Malik and Mirza were awarded the job of protecting the nation and province of Sindh, how much sense does that make?
The PPP govt. had 'had prior knowledge of imminent attacks' on the Sri Lankan team, yet the attack happened.
Is PPP gvt. responsible for the attack on the Sri Lankan team?Posted 2 years ago on 17 Apr 2010 20:37 # -
max786
MemberMusharraf aides scoff at UN report
ISLAMABAD: Close associates of former Pakistani president General (retd) Pervez Musharraf have said that he cannot be held responsible for the assassination of Benazir Bhutto because no country can provide security against a suicide attack.
Commenting on observations made in the UN Commission’s report, Musharraf’s spokesman Barrister Mohammad Ali Saif and Maj Gen (retd) Rashid Qureshi, who was the general’s spokesman during his days in the Presidency, observed that pointing fingers at a former head of state on the basis of hearsay would benefit only the assassins and spark an unnecessary political debate.
Speaking here yesterday they said there was nothing new in the report and regretted that a sum of Rs500 million had been wasted on the UN probe. Barrister Saif said the UN team had no experience of criminal investigation nor did it have the mandate to do so.
Rejecting the allegation of inadequate security arrangements, Barrister Saif said Bhutto was fully aware of the threat to her life. He said that the best possible security had been provided to her but there was no mechanism anywhere in the world to guard against suicide attacks.
He said it was not the president’s job to decide deployment of security personnel, adding that it was the primary responsibility of the provincial government and the local administration.
He pointed out that the federal government was under the control of Mian Soomro at that time.
NOW THE BLAME GAME IS STRATED AS PER USAUAL.Posted 2 years ago on 18 Apr 2010 0:48 # -
Hussain Farooqui
MemberThe intelligence agencies had warned Benazir in advance. However, the assurance of Jialas made her come out in public. All the facts are known to the ruling class, but the exposure is not possible due to certain reasons. The wastage of money and time on Scotland Yard and the UN are merely deceiving tools.
Posted 2 years ago on 18 Apr 2010 6:41 # -
@*RhyMe*
First of all they didnt say Musharraf himself killed or responsible for that but his govt. and I think he wasnt sitting alone he do have support of parties as well...second am i wrong about Mian Soomro and Kyani???why dont you explain that how only Musharraf got all the blame when he wasnt an army chief and caretaker govt. was their to control the situation in 27 Dec2007...This report had missed this part so this report is incomplete itself...
Posted 2 years ago on 18 Apr 2010 11:01 # -
The assassination of thousands of people have died in similar blasts since her death, could have been prevented if adequate security measures had been taken.
Benazir is more important than 1000s of people whose fate was similar, any UN report on that?
Posted 2 years ago on 18 Apr 2010 13:51 # -
bhai seedhi seedhi baat hay ...
BB ki assasination BB kay apno kay hathon hoye hay .
warna aur kisko faida tha unkay marnay ka ?Posted 2 years ago on 19 Apr 2010 8:16 # -
This whole UN exercise has been a waste of time and this report does not blame directly anyone. Like BB, responsiblity rests on Govt of the day to ensure safety and security of each of its citizen.
Posted 2 years ago on 19 Apr 2010 8:55 # -
jaypk
Member….amazing..i mean…5 million dollars have been given..and the result is..a wayward blame…is tht whd UN commission is meant to be since BB’s death..big names like sctoland yard and this and that…even I could do this..fr a lot cheaper thn 5 million...blame the previous govt..thts it…who was the killer??? That’s why our generous govt has given 5 million to the UN commission?? And the answer is…the whole regime…yeh to mujhay bhee pata thaa..!
On a second thought…this gives a chance to mock musharrafs name and ppl who hate him would be happy atleast…I bet whn zardari would leave the sadarati mehal….thr would a report which would say..tht he was responsible for BBs death…but nt now…cz this is the reeti rivayat of our nation tht jo hukomat main hay…usay choro…jo chala gaya hay…us par laan taan karo…ppl who think tht Musharraf or his regime was responsible fr this and zardari is not…should get themselves out of the fools paradise…as if that was the case thn why did zardari sahib gave musharaf a standing ovation to leave the country..? waisay bhe…zardari sahib to kab say keh rahay hain..”mujhay pata hay…k bb ka qatil kon hay”..regardless of this report...so why waste such huge amounts…just one reason…to let the blame off of his shoulders..!!.
Posted 2 years ago on 19 Apr 2010 12:51 # -
LiberalKarachi
Member1) The report blames Musharraf's government AND NOT Musharraf personally.
2) Report ALSO blames PPP.
3) BB died because of a suicide attack - which Musharraf was a target of too. There is no practical way to combat suicide bombers.
4) With all due respect to BB, she died because of her own folly, why did she get her head out of the bullet-proof vehicle?
5) If ISI etc. did it, then Gen. Kayani would have to take the blame too, as he was COAS.It raises a key question though:
Who washed the place of incident the next morning and why?Posted 2 years ago on 19 Apr 2010 23:08 # -
expakistani
MemberI would say good Job Mushi... but half done
Zardari Nawaaz and their families are still sucking up pakistan.Posted 2 years ago on 20 Apr 2010 21:05 # -
max786
MemberBenazir Bhutto Murder & United Nations Report
After reading 64 pages pointless UN report costing Rs. 10 million per page makes people wonder that Mr Zardari is as compromised as Benazir Bhutto and Ijazul Haq after their father’s assassinations by a ‘friendly fire’. That is why people say we help put the fire out in the neighbour’s house because it will come to over door sooner or later.
Benazir Bhutto might be alive today had she properly investigated General Ziaul Haq’s C-130 plane crash on 17th August 1988 and not involved herself in cover up? Like President Zardari now Benazir Bhutto was direct beneficiary of the C-130 military plane crash. As prime minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto sent a direct threatening message to a Pakistan Air Force officer Group
Posted 2 years ago on 20 Apr 2010 22:12 # -
jaypk
Member@expak...you crack me up mate..good one...think this is the only way to (operation) cleanup..!
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Apr 2010 12:34 # -
max786
MemberTerming Benazir Bhutto's death as murder, the Legal advisor to Benazir's chief protocol officer has alleged that the present Interior Minister Rehman Malik and current Law Minister Babar Awan were involved in Benazir's assassination.
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Apr 2010 20:50 # -
BB was killed by her loved ones and her friends .
mein kis kay hath pe apna laho talash karon.Posted 2 years ago on 22 Apr 2010 11:36 # -
Beenai Bibi, Spot on. Exactly what I've been told myself about BB's death by few simple Sindhis bearing the same name: Bhutto.
Also one request to you, if you'll allow it. Could you go to the thread on the burkha ban in France and give us your views. There we have man after man telling us what the burkha means. Your views would be precious. Thank you.
Posted 2 years ago on 24 Apr 2010 19:18 # -
max786
MemberThese people were her friends...
Aslam Chaudhry who is the chief protocol officer of Benazir alleged that both Rehman Malik and Babar Awan broke protocol and also sabotaged security during Benazir's rally at Liaquat Park in which she was assassinated.
Posted 2 years ago on 24 Apr 2010 22:44 # -
max786
MemberWhy the hell millions of dollars have been spent to know this which was already a fact. There has been some reports in the Media that Rehman Malik was held responsible initially that government asked UN to delay the report and probably changed the content to suit them. No one could be caught, no one will be caught and no one will be sentenced. No matter how important that women was, no matter how many loved her, no matter which she meant to PPP (Real PPP), this chapter is going to go under the carpet.
Posted 2 years ago on 24 Apr 2010 22:49 # -
max786
MemberAnd what about the hundreds of innocent people who got killed on the day she was killed and the day she decided to make her grand public appearance in Karachi when she first returned back to Pakistan.
I am not going to say anything bad about a deceased woman, but for all those Benazir/PPP supporters I have to ask them why do they support people who spent billions of dollars on mansions and luxury villas in Dubai, London, and New York while the country they were supposed to lead was almost going bankrupt.
She should've stayed in her mansion in Dubai. She would've been alive today with her children. Pakistan was doing far better before she and her husband came back to Pakistan.
Posted 2 years ago on 24 Apr 2010 22:58 # -
max786, good points you made above, especially as regards all those who died when BB first came to Karachi. Terribly sad story, all in all. But that seems to be our fate at the moment, stumbling from one sad story to the next.
Posted 2 years ago on 25 Apr 2010 1:45 # -
toamin
memberbb's assassination was ordered by d*ck cheney and executed by mushy -read seymour hersh's report for further details-
Posted 2 years ago on 26 Apr 2010 5:35 # -
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/apr2010-daily/26-04-2010/col3.htm
Nadeem Ejaz is clue no 1.Posted 2 years ago on 26 Apr 2010 5:51 # -
toamin
memberthese are just pawns who moved on the orders of their superiors ...
Posted 2 years ago on 26 Apr 2010 5:56 # -
@Salam
any link to the conspiracy theory would be nice. Welcome back.Posted 2 years ago on 26 Apr 2010 5:59 # -
toamin
memberseymour hersh is a renowned journalist, not a conspiracy theorist, he is well respected for his work- thx
Posted 2 years ago on 26 Apr 2010 7:33 # -
Musharraf's security, protocol to be withdrawn
Posted 2 years ago on 26 Apr 2010 17:18 # -
theimrannasir
MemberWhat is the credibility of UN commission report? The report is deprived of some most important contents, for instance:
1: Safdar Abbasi and Nahid Khan, who were very close to Benzir Bhutto, were not interviewed.
2: UN personal didn’t bother to interview the drivers; driver of Benzir’s car and the driver of the car carrying Rehman Malik, Babur Awan and Gen. Toqueer.
3: Khalid Shansha, enigmatic/mysterious character, who made some suspicious gestures during the meeting to which Benzir was addressing was not mentioned.
4: How Asif Ali Zardari can be absolved from the case before any conclusive investigation?
There is damn sight lengthy litany of missing things in report so there is nothing to say with surety so far.Posted 2 years ago on 26 Apr 2010 17:31 # -
max786
MemberA final word on a related issue. The goings-on in the back-up limousine detailed by the Bhutto commission have given rise to fevered speculation but the PPP high command has itself remained tight-lipped on the issue. Perhaps the PPP leadership should consider clearing the air on that front too.
Posted 2 years ago on 26 Apr 2010 23:00 #
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