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Muslim Major in US Army guns down fellow Soldiers

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  1. Major Nidal Hassan a psychiatrist in the US Army has apparently gone on a rampage in Fort Hood, a US military base in Texas.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6512422/Fort-Hood-shooting-how-the-massacre-unfolded.html

    Perhaps he's agrieved by US policy in Iraq/Afghanistan. Inshallah he will survive his wounds to tell the world his motive of opening fire on fellow soldiers.

    Posted 4 months ago on 06 Nov 2009 10:28 #
  2. JJ Khan
    member

    Imagine the impact rest of Muslim officers are going to have in Europe/US.

    Posted 4 months ago on 06 Nov 2009 10:30 #
  3. sasherwani
    Members

    Thats so stupid, it isnt even funny. They should execute him publicly.

    Posted 4 months ago on 06 Nov 2009 13:29 #
  4. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Demand for JUSTICE ? Why only for US personnel ?

    Posted 4 months ago on 06 Nov 2009 14:30 #
  5. Did they found any clue to link this attack with Pakistan?

    Posted 4 months ago on 06 Nov 2009 16:30 #
  6. zia m
    Member

    He must have been mentally disturbed after hearing the horror stories of war from his patients all these years.

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 3:12 #
  7. Offtopic post by Migel9 has been removed. Members are advised to stay on topic.

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 6:14 #
  8. A few more details related to the sad incident.
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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33737596/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?gt1=43001

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 10:30 #
  9. yahya
    Member

    Surveillance tape released:

    He is apparently wearing Shalwar Qameez. Is there a Pakistani connection somewhere?

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 14:12 #
  10. zingaro
    Member

    i am waiting when US press will say that this major has met with alqaida men secretly...

    I am also thinking that this action will create problems for other Muslim officers in US Army... but should we raise a question of Islam here? As people who join US army take oath to be sincere with US rules and policies and not with their personal religions.

    Lets see what happens next....

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 14:49 #
  11. JJ Khan
    member

    He was already experiencing problems there because of his origin.

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 15:02 #
  12. yahya
    Member

    --

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 15:27 #
  13. yahya
    Member

    SARGE:
    “Goddam it, soldier!
    You ought to see a goddam psychiatrist!”

    BEETLE BAILEY:
    “Not without my flak vest on, Sarge!”

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 15:28 #
  14. Anwer Kamal
    Members

    Very stupid and non sence work. The major was getting pay from US army since long. He is a bad example of a nuslim. He could leave job if he was angry,

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 15:39 #
  15. SufiSoul
    Member

    Actually when only leaving JOB is considered insufficeint to give THUND TO KALAIJA than this type of value added service is expected..
    Americans have stupid military history in the world.
    I wonder when they allow and deploy muslims to IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN..
    They need to learn some war tactics at least.

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 17:08 #
  16. Anwer Kamal
    Members

    Can we defend this nonsence act?
    Report: Texas shooter shouted 'Allahu Akbar' before firing

    Reported by: Katrina Wessman
    Email: kwessman@abc15.com
    Reported by: Deborah Stocks
    Reported by: Associated Press
    Last Update: 11/06 11:18 pm

    JUST IN TO ABC15.COM

    Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has declared a moment of silence for U.S. military forces worldwide as a show of respect for the Fort Hood victims.

    The moment of silence is planned for 12:34 p.m. MST today -- exactly 24 hours after the shooting in Texas.

    All U.S. forces worldwide are being asked to participate in the show of respect.

    Fort Hood, Texas

    Soldiers who witnessed the shooting rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire, the base commander said Friday.

    Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said officials had not yet confirmed that the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday, which left 30 people wounded, including the gunman.

    An imam from a mosque Hasan regularly attended said Hasan, a lifelong Muslim, was a committed soldier, gave no sign of extremist beliefs and regularly wore his uniform at prayers.

    Cone said Hasan was hospitalized in stable condition and that investigators hope to interrogate him as soon as possible. In the early chaos after the shootings, authorities believed they had killed him, only to discover later that he had survived.

    Cone said Hasan was not known to be a threat or risk. He acknowledged that it was "counterintuitive" that a single shooter could kill and injure so many people. But he said the massacre occurred in "close quarters."

    "With ricochet fire, he was able to injure that number of people," Cone said. Authorities are investigating whether Hasan's weapons were properly registered with the military.

    The motive for the shooting wasn't clear, but Hasan was apparently set to deploy soon and had expressed some anger about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said generals at Fort Hood told her that Hasan was about to deploy overseas.

    Lee said Hasan had hoped Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq and got into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars.

    Officials are not ruling out the possibility that some of the casualties may have been victims of "friendly fire," that in the mayhem and confusion at the shooting scene some of the responding military officials may have shot some of the victims.

    The gunfire broke out around 1:30 p.m. at the Soldier Readiness Center, where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening. Nearby, some soldiers were readying to head into a graduation ceremony for troops and families who had recently earned degrees.

    Pastor Greg Schannep had just parked his car along the side of the theater and was about to head into the ceremony when a man in uniform approached him.

    "Sir, they are opening fire over there!" the man told him. At first, he thought it was a training exercise -- then heard three volleys and saw people running. As the man who warned him about the shots ran away, he could see the man's back was bloodied from a wound.

    Schannep said police and medical and other emergency personnel were on the scene in an instant, telling people to get inside the theater. The post went into lockdown while a search began for a suspect and emergency workers began trying to treat the wounded. Some soldiers rushed to treat their injured colleagues by ripping their uniforms into makeshift bandages to treat their wounds.

    Video from the scene showed police patrolling the area with handguns and rifles, ducking behind buildings for cover. Sirens could be heard wailing while a woman's voice on a public-address system urged people to take cover. Schools on the base went into lockdown, and family members trying to find out what was happening inside found cell phone lines jammed or busy.

    "I was confused and just shocked," said Spc. Jerry Richard, 27, who works at the center but was not on duty during the shooting. "Overseas you are ready for it. But here you can't even defend yourself."

    The wounded were dispersed among hospitals in central Texas, Cone said. Their identities and the identities of the dead were not immediately released.

    The bodies of the victims would be taken to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware for autopsies and forensic tests, said a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters that were under investigation.

    There also will be a ceremony at the air base to honor the dead.

    Jamie and Scotty Casteel stood outside the emergency room at the hospital in Temple waiting for news of their son-in-law Matthew Cooke, who was among the injured.

    "He's been shot in the abdomen and that's all we know," Jamie Casteel told The Associated Press. She said Cooke, from New York state, had been home from Iraq for about a year.

    Amber Bahr, 19, was shot in the stomach but was in stable condition, said her mother, Lisa Pfund of Random Lake, Wis.

    "We know nothing, just that she was shot in the belly," Pfund said. She couldn't provide more details and only spoke with emergency personnel.

    Nathan A. Hewitt, 26, of Lafayette, Ind., was shot in the hip and calf, his uncles Elmo Robledo and Rex Deaton told the Journal & Courier.

    Ashley Saucedo told WOOD-TV in Michigan that her husband was shot in the arm, but she couldn't discuss specifics. Saucedo said she and the couple's two children weren't permitted to leave their home at Fort Hood during the shootings.

    For six years before reporting for duty at Fort Hood in July, Hasan worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center pursuing a career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry. The 39-year-old Army major received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001.

    But his record wasn't sterling. At Walter Reed, he received a poor performance evaluation, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly. And while he was an intern, Hasan had some "difficulties" that required counseling and extra supervision, said Dr. Thomas Grieger, who was the training director at the time.

    Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md., said "I got the impression that he was a committed soldier." He said Hasan attended prayers regularly at the mosque in Silver Spring, Md., and was a lifelong Muslim. He spoke often with Hasan about Hasan's desire for a wife.

    In an interview with The Washington Post, Hasan's aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church, Va., said he had been harassed about being a Muslim in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, and he wanted out of the Army.

    "Some people can take it and some people cannot," she said. "He had listened to all of that and he wanted out of the military."

    At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

    Investigators had not determined for certain whether Hasan was the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.

    The FBI, local police and other agencies searched Hasan's apartment Thursday night after evacuating the complex in Killeen, said city spokeswoman Hilary Shine. She referred questions about what was found to the FBI. The FBI in Dallas referred questions to a spokesman who was not immediately available early Friday morning.

    Fort Hood Suspect Alive

    Slideshow
    Arizona National Guard's 158th Combat Sustainment Support Battalion (Arizona National Guard)

    Paul Aguirre with the Arizona National Guard said there is one Arizona unit at Fort Hood and all soldiers have been accounted for.

    The 158th left Tucson on October 31 for mobilization training for deployment to Afghanistan in approximately 60 days.

    The base was locked down after the shootings.

    Covering 339 square miles, Fort Hood is the largest active duty armored post in the United States. Home to about 52,000 troops as of earlier this year, the sprawling base is located halfway between Austin and Waco.

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 22:09 #
  17. d0ct0r
    Member

    According to a Killeen police report in August, an Army employee was charged with scratching Hasan's car, causing $1,000 in damage. Apartment manager John Thompson said the man charged was a soldier back from Iraq, who objected to Hasan's faith and ripped a bumper sticker off the major's car that said: "Allah is Love."

    Kim Rosenthal, another neighbor, said Hasan didn't seem too upset by his scratched vehicle, even though it was damaged so badly that he got a new one. "He said it was Ramadan and that he had to forgive people," Rosenthal said. "He forgave him and moved on."

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33737596/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood/page/2/

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33737596/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood//

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 22:22 #
  18. Ghareeb
    Old-chechen

    US army is no place for Muslim to work unless he or she has lot of Imaan or faith. Although it is allowed to pray Friday prayer and there are Muslim chaplains yet it is very very difficult to keep yourself Muslim. I heard from a right source of a Muslim who spent time with marines and came out eating port, drinking and then became outright supporter of illegitimate state of Israel due to constant brainwashing.

    Lot of Muslims serve in other big armies of world like India or Russia but it is same. Most are used as canon fodder as front line troops. Muslim from Russia were initially sent to Afghanistan but they felt they were there to kill brothers. 30% of Red army was Muslim. Later the Russians started sending Europenas but it was too late. Soviet Union collpased and one of the reasons was its inability to cope with Muslim soldiers.

    This Major rightly objected to being sent to Afghanistan. He knew that he will be killing innocent civilians and hence his outburst.

    Posted 4 months ago on 07 Nov 2009 23:39 #
  19. shikra
    Member

    It is really avery disturbibg incident.
    One person's stupid act has put millions of Muslims and their families, settled in America and Canada as citizens, at a defensive position.
    Every Muslim could be seen as suspicious, dangerous, guilty and unpridctable.
    Nothing positive could be achieved through such non-sense.

    Posted 4 months ago on 08 Nov 2009 1:09 #
  20. yahya
    Member

    Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texas-army-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html

    Posted 4 months ago on 08 Nov 2009 1:39 #
  21. Ghareeb
    Old-chechen

    So what if he is linked. US army is linked with genocide of 2 million Iraqis and one million Afghans. Fort Hood prepares those killers to let loose on Muslim lands.

    Posted 4 months ago on 08 Nov 2009 1:44 #
  22. Ghareeb
    Old-chechen

    There are more US soldiers killed by fellow soldiers and committing suicides and killing their wives due to "stress" of illegal wars. Shall I post the link?

    Posted 4 months ago on 08 Nov 2009 1:46 #
  23. yahya
    Member

    Ghareeb, what are you saying? Are you justifying his act?

    Posted 4 months ago on 08 Nov 2009 1:54 #
  24. yahya
    Member

    A Muslim Soldier's View from Fort Hood

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kamran-pasha/a-muslim-soldiers-view-fr_b_348973.html&cp

    Posted 4 months ago on 08 Nov 2009 1:55 #
  25. Migel9
    Member

    Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has declared a moment of silence for U.S. military forces worldwide as a show of respect for the Fort Hood victims.So what??he is a war criminal and a terrorist.

    I hope he has declared a moment of silence for weezistan drone attacks, also for killing iraqis 1.5 million, also,
    sing chemical attack in Fallujah iraq, Abu ghareeb prison.

    He also declared silence for attacking syrian wedding in syria.Remove all NATO forces from islamic lands.GETT OUTT NOW.

    Posted 4 months ago on 08 Nov 2009 5:06 #
  26. d0ct0r
    Member

    After this shooting at Fort Hood. Another shooting rampage occurred in orlando florida in which a CHRISTIAN office worker went on a shooting spree and gunned down his ex-coworkers.

    Orlando Shooter Guns Down Ex-Coworkers :

    Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/06/jason-rodriguez-orlando-o_n_348639.html&cp

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/06/jason-rodriguez-orlando-o_n_348639.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1225840/One-dead-injured-Florida-office-mass-shooting.html

    US office shooter 'is sick'

    http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=263549

    Posted 4 months ago on 08 Nov 2009 7:28 #
  27. Revivalist
    member

    I wonder if a psychiatrist could not control his emotions and can go to this extent what would be the situation of the common Muslims. Moreover, saying that it will affect the Muslim families living there is a baseless argument, what other Muslim families has to do with it????

    Posted 4 months ago on 08 Nov 2009 8:12 #
  28. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    This news is STILL developing.

    It is for sure that western media will try to portray this incident with ALL the colours of terrorism and links to Al-Qaeda/Taliban and stuff like that.

    I'll wait for the REAL info to come out, the truth to come out.

    Posted 4 months ago on 08 Nov 2009 8:33 #
  29. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    This surveillance tape is useless. Its from a store, NOT from the original incident.

    Where is the REAL surveillance tape ?

    Posted 4 months ago on 08 Nov 2009 9:03 #
  30. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    I'v seen videos of Americans talking, saying this was another inside job by US.

    This news wouldn't have died off as it has, if it wasn't known that it was yet another inside job.

    Posted 1 month ago on 04 Feb 2010 18:55 #
  31. no worries, he was not an ordinary muslim.....he was an extremist

    http://www.questionat.com/questions/1325-was-major-nadal-hasan-an-al-qaeda-agent-

    Posted 1 month ago on 06 Feb 2010 7:45 #
  32. crocodile
    Blocked

    Haris posted two months ago:
    "It is for sure that western media will try to portray this incident with ALL the colours of terrorism and links to Al-Qaeda/Taliban"

    And we have finally got a post :

    no worries, he was not an ordinary muslim.....he was an extremist

    "http://www.questionat.com/questions/1325-was-major-nadal-hasan-an-al-qaeda-agent- "

    How predictable ...haris !!!

    Posted 1 month ago on 06 Feb 2010 7:55 #
  33. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @crocodile: Agreed. The west is becoming predictable with each passing day.

    Video:

    Video:

  • Salam
    member

    Thanks for sharing a long standing desire of Indian Army :)

    Posted 1 month ago on 09 Feb 2010 9:29 #
  • Wahid Doyum
    Member

    It is desire of all jihadis as well as ISI elements and it has already happened (parade line masjid massacre, ghq attack)

    Posted 1 month ago on 09 Feb 2010 14:03 #

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