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Myth of MQM
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asif86
MemberPosted 1 year ago on 14 Jun 2010 13:50 # -
LiberalKarachi
MemberAfter having read the link, I see nothing there of any value. I suppose the argument that the link tries to formulate is:
"Following the government action against terrorism in Karachi in late 1980s and early 1990s, MQM had filed a petition in the Supreme Court of Pakistan in 1994 seeking the virtual domination in Sindh claiming that it commanded a majority of 60% in the province. It was an effort to divide Sindh along the ethnic lines or between the Urban and Rural Sindh."
What exactly is the problem with that, MQM is simply asserting that it has a major vote bank in sindh and their mandate should be accepted. At this time, a bloody army operation was ensuring against the defenceless civilians of Karachi and hyd. The orchestrator of that operation now admit the Jinnah Pur to be a mistake. MQM has every right to persue legal actions against a massacre of innocent people in their constituency. Having said that, MQM is not demanding a division of sindh even today, when it is in power.
Posted 1 year ago on 14 Jun 2010 14:43 # -
he he he
MQM walay Sindh card ki takkar pe Mohajir card laye thay.
army kay kehnay pe .aur army ki billi army ko hi miyaoon karnay lagi tou army ko operation karna para ...
Tom and Jerry series is quite in ......:):):)Posted 1 year ago on 15 Jun 2010 5:53 # -
Hussain Farooqui
MemberThe policemen posted in the regime of Nasrullah Baber are still paying the costs of their assigned duties till today. Old time enemities are still targeting them.
Posted 1 year ago on 15 Jun 2010 6:29 # -
true Hussain Farouqi sahib .
and MQM still is licking its wounds given by army .
MQM is a party ;
made by army , raised by army ,chetaed and decieved by army and one day will make its exit by army inshallah .Posted 1 year ago on 16 Jun 2010 5:51 # -
Shock
MembersThis is so funny.
Posted 1 year ago on 16 Jun 2010 8:00 # -
why do u find it funny ?
Posted 1 year ago on 16 Jun 2010 9:34 # -
siddiqi73
Member@liberalkarachi,
Trust me bro, when MQM is in power, it won't divide Sind but will facilitate a complete annexation of Sind by India.
Posted 1 year ago on 16 Jun 2010 10:11 # -
he he he
siddiqi bhai .
hansa diya kisi ko
sahi kaha
magar tappa diya kisi ko.:):):)Posted 1 year ago on 16 Jun 2010 10:25 # -
LiberalKarachi
Member@siddiqui73,
"Trust me bro, when MQM is in power, it won't divide Sind but will facilitate a complete annexation of Sind by India. "
But MQM is in power in Karachi, why has it not chaooted with anti-pak elements already?
Those against Pakistan know the value of Karachi to Pakistan. After mumbai attack in 2008, in India's 10 points attack against Pakitan, it said: "Karachi Pakistan ki arthik rajdhani hai, karachi toote hi Pakistan tooth jai ga"/"Karachi is Pakistan's juglar vien, breaking of Karachi would mean breaking of Pakistan":
Check out 3:10-3:25
Right now NWFP is burning because of Talibans, Balochistan has insurgency, punjab has talibans exploding in numbers, if there is one place where there is economic stability, it is karachi. If MQM wants, it can put a stop to that in a minute, and Pakistan itself will be in danger. The ports of Karachi alone are responsible for over $60 billion of trade each year! If MQM only seizes the ports of karachi then Pakistan will meet an economic death, and economy is everything for a modern country, no country can survive without it, USSR is an example.
Yet we see MQM developing Karachi and ensuring that its economy continues to grow. Look at the work of Mustafa Kamal, ishratul Ibad, Rauf siddiqui (responsible for reviving the industry and commerce of sindh) and haroon raza (working hard on the IT sector), etc. Karachi is now pumping more money into the national exchequer than ever before. This should tell you who in fact is patriotic pakistani.
Posted 1 year ago on 16 Jun 2010 21:03 # -
I see this privilege of being the only sea port of Pakistan and pumping more money into the national exchequer being seriously challenged by new ports like Gawader in the coming near future.
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Jun 2010 4:36 # -
Sharif Aadmi
MemberMirza sahib,
time will tell but let me put my assertions about Gawadar is totally uneconmoically as compared to Karachi or port qasim . Why ?
a) Most of trade we do comes from arabian sea / indian ocean side and approcaching from this side Khi is 600 km before gawadar ?
Why a ship will go 600km further towards Gulf and then the cargo will come back or go upcountry through land ? Its basic enonomics :0
b) Khi is well connected through roads & rail with upcountry . Gawadar has only one route and that is coastal highway which comes to khi and then if someone wants to go upcountry , it has to use same links which serve khi .
c) Oil cargo which comes from gulf is transported upcountry (a fair chunk) via pipelines where Gawadar doesn't have any pipline and not in foreseable future.
d) Gawadar is very far from population centres which are centre of consumtion / econmoic activity .
I m not against Gawadar but it has no match to khi. Karachi is not only port city but over the period of time has become financial/economic capital as well . Its quite impossible any other city challenging that .
Original plan of gawadar in 90's included a motorway link as well from Gawadar to retodero which would have connected Gawadar to inlands near Larkana . Apart from that link and Rail , Gawadar is just going to be a show piece.
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Jun 2010 4:48 # -
siddiqi73
Member@liberalkarachi,
Some oasis of stability is Karachi where people are shot down like clay pigeons. Patriotic Pakistanis, MQM.....the mere thought of it makes me wanna puke.
Posted 1 year ago on 17 Jun 2010 8:14 # -
LiberalKarachi
Member"Some oasis of stability is Karachi where people are shot down like clay pigeons."
Which area of Pakistan are people not shot down like clay pigeons? The law and order in Karachi comes directly under Zulfiqar mirza and not MQM, so ultimatelt it's his responsibility. You might be surprised to learn that these killings have not adversely affected the economy of the city as much as suicide bombs and mismanagement by the federation.
Posted 1 year ago on 18 Jun 2010 20:20 # -
siddiqi73
Member@liberalkarachi,
You have inadvertently agreed with me that it aint all milk and honey in Karachi. What ever happens in Karachi is a mere manifestation of what happens in the rest of the country. If Law & Order comes under the supervision of Zulfiqar Mirza and he has done a pi$$ poor job at maintaining law & order, than what the heck is MQM doing? Please don't be giving an impression that if its all peachy in Karachi, its because of the stupendous job MQM is doing and if it sucks out here, the blame rests on the doorstep of PPP. That is the most convenient bullcrap MQM comes up with it and people aint morons to fall for such lines.
Posted 1 year ago on 19 Jun 2010 7:26 # -
LiberalKarachi
Member@siddiqi73.
I was talking about economic stability when MQM was in control of Karachi, particularly through CDGK. You are focusing on law and order instead. I was alluding to industrial/manufacturing growth in the 5 main industrial zones of khi by Rauf Siddiqui and team, FDI into the services sector (which the economy of Khi is converging towards) because of MK, improving the ports and harbour by Babar Ghauri and team. Secondly, the rapid infrastructure development, which is the back-bone of the economy of any modern city, by Mustafa Kamal has played its part. The manufacturing and services sector in khi, as a result, has seen tremendous growth in the past decade. One of the reasons why the GDP of Pakistan was on the sharp rise in the past decade.
As for law and order, whoever is responsible for it, must be held accountable irrespective of whether its Z. Mirza or someone else. That's an ubiquitous principle.
Posted 1 year ago on 20 Jun 2010 20:58 #
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