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NA 123 - Lahore-VI

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  1. RajputPuttar
    Member

    ian Hamid Meeraj's father , Mian Meeraj ud din Crown Wala , used to contest elections from this very area.

    He contested on one of the provincial seat of this area , that used to be ppp 120 from 88 to 97 (for which i have got record from ecp).

    He securred following votes in each elections

    Year 88 Party IJI votes 10823
    90 didn't contest
    93 PML_N 21245
    97 PML_N 21181

    In 2002 , MIan Hamid Miraj himself contested from pp 144 and got 6866 on PML_Q ticket.

    HIs father was elected member of pronvicial assembly in 60's and then in 85 as well from same area . So , this family has been contesting elections for last 50 yrs from same area.

    NA-123 has total of 288994 registreed voters.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 9:29 #

  2. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @RajputPuttar: Please give us your 'logical' calculations, plus assessment for current by-polls, in ALL areas, with stats. I have already requested stats twice before. Stats such as;

    (1) Total Population
    (2) Total Turnout
    (3) Which candidate won how many votes ?
    (4) Percentage of acceptability
    (5) etc etc

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 9:37 #

  3. RajputPuttar
    Member

    bahiyaa,

    its a typical bye-elctions with around 25% turnover in which the party vacating the seat has comfortably won.

    I haven't got any official results but according to papers

    PML_N got around 47 k , PTI 10k and JI 3k votes.

    Total comes to be aroudn 65k.

    Bahi,

    Waisay tu aap claim kartey haai kaay achisonian haain , wahan basic math bhi nahi parhatey kiya ?

    yaa aap ko point bananey kaa 'shonq' haai ? :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 9:44 #

  4. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @RajputPuttar: Why are you shying away from putting up the real stats, plus facts ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 9:53 #

  5. LalBichoo
    Blocked

    hariskhan,

    Congrats for getting 5% votes in NA-123 !

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 9:56 #

  6. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Here are the facts for NA-123 in user friendly shape;

    (1) Total Population: ?
    (2) Total Registered Voters: 287,915
    (3) Total Turnout: 58,604 (20.35%)

    (a) Male Voters: 161,102
    (b) Female voters: 126,813

    (4) Number of votes, won by representatives;

    (a) Parvez Malik sb. (PML-N): 45,889 (15.93%)
    (b) Hamid Meraj sb. (PTI): 9,440 (3.28%)
    (c) Salman Butt sb. (JI): 3,275 (1.14%)

    (5) Election Type: By-Poll
    (6) Election Date: Wednesday, 10-March-2010

    ..with gratitude, thanks to brother 'zingaro' for getting stats numbers.

    @RajputPuttar: Do you dispute these numbers ?

    Also, do you dispute the fact that in 2002, total turnout was 25% ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:01 #

  7. ajhons
    Member

    Lalbichoo Aap to keh rahay thay ka JI is 5% votes leye hain.ye to 2% bhi nahi hain.Lagta hay ziada tar JI supporters bho gay thay ka aaj vote dalney bhi jana hay.::))

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:06 #

  8. LalBichoo
    Blocked

    ""(3) Total Turnout: 58,604 (20.35%)""

    >>>

    So Jamaatees think rest of the 79.75% are their supporters :)))

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:08 #

  9. ajhons
    Member

    hahaha

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:13 #

  10. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    No. I want to point at the general mistrust of the masses in;

    (1) elections, or
    (2) political parties, or
    (3) the people who stand up to represent them

    Which is a dangerous trend.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:13 #

  11. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Harris mian

    I didn't check the overall turnover in 2002 but your question is about national or provincial ?

    and one more thing that was a general election and this is a bye-election.

    If u want to compare 2002 general electoin result , compare it with 2008 general election result.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:14 #

  12. LalBichoo
    Blocked

    lolzzzz

    hariskhan, JI keee to baj ga'i :)))

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:14 #

  13. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    My point in asking for or in putting up stats, was to point at the voter turnout trend.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:15 #

  14. RajputPuttar
    Member

    LalBichoo

    yaar , koi naai baat karoo.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:17 #

  15. ajhons
    Member

    Haris got a valid point.even in last election which held after BB's death turnout was arount 35%.This is danegrous trend.People are no more intrested and slowly our mind is being setup that Democrasy is bulls**t and all the politicians are untrustworthy.This will lead to a point where we will welcome any intruder.

    Its really dangerous.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:21 #

  16. RajputPuttar
    Member

    ajhons

    BAhi, historically the turnover in bye-elections is lower but the point u have raised is very valid that masses are losing faith in the system and this is continuous purposful character assination which is causing this.

    If u look at history , in 1970 the turnover was around 70% which over next 35 years has almost halved.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:31 #

  17. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Pakistani people on this forum should note, that Mr. 'RajputPuttar' here wants Pakistani people to return to the era as well as beliefs of 'Ashoka'.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:36 #

  18. LalBichoo
    Blocked

    hariskhan,

    Aisay Pakistan ko bohat dour say salaam jis may aap jaisay loser Jamaati loog Pakistaniat kee certification karain !
    Can you please award me certificate of na-Pakistaniat :)))

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:39 #

  19. RajputPuttar
    Member

    hariskhan

    Jhootey aadmin. were did i say that .

    Acutally , Harriskhan has got CMM Level 5. i.e. Certificate of Munafaqat from Mansoora.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:44 #

  20. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    I quote this post by Mr. RajputPuttar on another thread;

    --------------------------------------------------------
    theimrannasir

    Almost 75% of popluation of current pakistan is son of the soil who belong to sub-continent. Their ancestors (like mine) leads us to Ashoka the great , chundargupt moriya and others not to deserts of arabia.
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:48 #

  21. LalBichoo
    Blocked

    hariskhan,

    Did your ancestors come from Arabia ?? :))
    Dude, don't twist others words and stop issuning certificates, you Jamaati !

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 10:50 #

  22. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    This forum is for discussing 'Pakistani Politics'. Mr. RajputPuttar seems to be an Indian agent on this forum.

    I request this evidence be noted by Admin, Moderators, Staff, who work diligently to make this forum possible for the benefit of Pakistani people.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 11:04 #

  23. LalBichoo
    Blocked

    hariskhan,

    """This forum is for discussing 'Pakistani Politics'. Mr. RajputPuttar seems to be an Indian agent on this forum."""

    >>>

    And I think you are an Arabian Wahabi agent on this forum to defend Wahabi Taliban and Al-Qaeda !

    I request this evidence be noted by Admin, Moderators, Staff, who work diligently to make this forum possible for the benefit of Pakistani people

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 11:07 #

  24. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    I was watching the program: Dunya Today dated 10-March-2010. In it, according to a Din TV correspondent, the voter turnout was 16% - 17%, which is even lower than what I'v quoted here.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 11:17 #

  25. RajputPuttar
    Member

    hariskhan

    My father was born in lhr , British india . And i m rajput who have been residing in the indian sub-continent for thousand of years. So , whats wrong ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 11:17 #

  26. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Reference for above stats;

    DAWN News: NA-123 by-election: 80pc voters stay away from

    Thursday, 11 Mar, 2010
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Let me see, if I can find stats for other places, where by-polls took place.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 11:21 #

  27. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Hazrat Harris

    Please check following link for bye election results.

    http://www.ecp.gov.pk/BE_Results.htm

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 12:21 #

  28. pappu
    Member

    NA-123 by-election: 80pc voters stay away from
    acha howa woh stay away kar gaie nahie tu aur kit lagney thiee. Un 80 percent naie koyn saie hafiz sahab ko vote dena tha. Saray vote pml n ko janey thay.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 12:24 #

  29. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Hazarat Harris

    aap kii tasali kaay liye i have compiled the general election turnover and bye-election turnover , constitunecy wise.

    FEb 2008 Bye

    NA-11 31.33 15.77
    NA-52 52.27 21.06
    NA-55 39.38 11.71
    NA-123 33.8
    NA-131 55.35 56.2
    NA-147 45.24 30.06
    NA-210 35.34 29.53

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 12:28 #

  30. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Why not mention turnover for NA-123 by-poll ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 13:58 #

  31. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Bahiya mein munafaq nahi hoon.

    These turnovers were for actual bye-election held in 2008 and at that time polling was not held here and final figures for this constituncy are not available on ecp website as yet.

    Jaissa bad-diynat insan Khood hota hai waisa hi doosron ko samjhata haii

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Mar 2010 23:23 #

  32. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Aailan Gumshudghi

    Iss thread par kutch 'Saleh' loog turnover kaay bareey mein bohut concerned thay. Since , the turnover details have been posted & the details are not inline with their false assumptions (as usual) , woh kahiin chup gaaey haain .

    Aailan kiyaa jaata haai kaaey woh wapis aa jaain , un ko kutch nahi kaha jaeey gaa :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Mar 2010 8:51 #

  33. RajputPuttar
    Member

    yaar, aab tu 10 $ inaam kaa bhi eelan karna parey gaa.

    Yeh keh nahi sakta kaay sharam kaay marey moon chupa kar baithey howey haain hazrat.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Mar 2010 6:28 #

  34. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    There's no point in repeating that which has already been discussed.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Mar 2010 7:09 #

  35. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Mr.Harris,

    U were very suspectible about low turnover ratio in NA-123. I said that its in line with trend but u insisted on your point.

    Now , i have given u trends of recent by-elections but u don't have the courage/moral to admit that your stance was wrong.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Mar 2010 11:20 #

  36. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Do we have any official references for checking on trends of by-polls ?

    If the turnover for NA-123 in 2008 by-elections was 33.8%, then in this last one that was just held, it was under 20%.

    Doesn't that show a declining trend in confidence in elections in by-polls ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Mar 2010 11:44 #

  37. gunnerz30
    Member

    lol haris bhai manshera,swat,lakki marwat.pindi aur lahore app ki zamanat har jagga zabt huwein hein!...
    saab jagga maslah turnout ka thaa kiya?....
    pti ki bhi zamanat pindi mein zabt howein but we unlike u arent makin stupid exuses ...
    "shikwa beyja bhi karein koi tuuu lazim hein shaur"

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Mar 2010 14:14 #

  38. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    I'm not making excuses. I'm asking for figures.

    I have already accepted the results.

    I don't believe, people stop their struggle just because they see back to back setbacks. Setbacks make people strong.

    Setbacks tells us that we need to go through harsher self accountability.

    If that would have happened Muhammad (SAW) would have stopped spreading Islam after the incident with people of 'taef'. Ashaba-e-Karaam would have stopped their struggle for spread of, for implementation of Islami Nizam.

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Mar 2010 20:56 #

  39. skunkk
    Member

    oye inho nei tou jhang aur fot abbas mein bhi umeedwar kharay kiya thay,wahan bhi zamaanat zabt hogayi tanga party ki

    Posted 2 years ago on 13 Mar 2010 21:09 #

  40. RajputPuttar
    Member

    These figures I quoted r official from eco website and endorse my oponion that in bye elections turnover is far less than general elections.

    Mr. Harris

    I m not from those guys who are not ashamed in inventing Quran & Hadith and compare terrorist criminals with prophet Muhammad pbuh.

    Think before speaking

    Posted 2 years ago on 14 Mar 2010 3:31 #

  41. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    If you are quoting official figures, then you won't mind posting links to them, now would you ? Why haven't you done that by now ? Why are you prolonging this worthless argument with me ?

    I give references for most of the stuff I quote.

    As for those who 'invent' Quran & Hadees in your words, that's just another lie.

    (1) No one can change Quran
    (2) Muslims created a separate! science! just! to ensure the validity of ALL the Hadees' that are noted

    You'r prejudice, your hate against those who follow Quran-o-Hadees is clear.

    Posted 2 years ago on 14 Mar 2010 5:56 #

  42. skunkk
    Member

    sub doosray karen, aap bhi kuch kerlou sawai mulk ko destabilize kernay kay, JI tehreek chalati hai, flop hojati hain tou phir aik nayi tehreek chalati hai, jamati judges ko sirf Zardari ki mubayana corruption nazar aati hai kisi aur ki nahi, doosron ki baat kerou tou kehtay hain hukumat karay, haris bhai ko figures dou tou kehtay hain, source bhi batao jab ke pata hai ke khud ecp se pata ker saktay hain, yehi haal inke wakeel Qazi anwar ka hai, inke leader Munawar hasan aur Qazi Husain ka, aur unki dukhtar bud-akhtar Sameea Kazi ka

    Posted 2 years ago on 14 Mar 2010 10:23 #

  43. RajputPuttar
    Member

    Mr.Harris

    This is line from my msg on 11th mar ,2009.
    "
    held here and final figures for this constituncy are not available on ecp website as yet.

    "

    Since , you are not able to comprehned the things , i m posting the link as well.

    http://www.ecp.gov.pk/content/GE2008.htm

    Mate,

    Be reminded, my proofs & references are not based on newsitems from different pappers. U must remember this for future as well.

    Posted 2 years ago on 14 Mar 2010 11:06 #

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