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NA 20 - Mansehra-I

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  1. Posted 6 years ago on 18 Dec 2007 4:02 #
  2. lughmani

    very close fight is expected here. may be pml(n) have little edge due to nawaz presence but pml(q)'s canidate have strong bradary vote.

    Posted 6 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 7:46 #
  3. adeel

    no doubt pml-n is favourite over here.

    Posted 6 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 8:37 #
  4. Mujtaba

    Yes,PML-N is a clear winner here. PML-Q candidate is very close to me, but I will vote for PML-N. I personally dont like General and I doubt(I hope I am wrong) his loyality with NS after the elections. Anyhow, I will vote for PML-N does not matter what will happen after the elections.

    Posted 6 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 16:14 #
  5. abhmd

    can some body give details of last election and names of candidates contesting here and what is JUI doing here?
    It is religious dominated area,their votes can make differene

    Posted 6 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 20:14 #
  6. gm

    Here Becos of local adjustment, JUI-F candidates have with withdrawn in favor of PMLN.

    Posted 6 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 20:18 #
  7. janan

    @abhmd ,
    Here is 2002 elections result

    1 Al-Haj Syed Ghulam Nabi Shah MMA 35576
    2 Sardar Shah Jehan Yousuf PML-Q 40853
    3 Sardar Wiqarul Mulk PPP 1442
    4 Lt Gen ® Syed Salahuddin Tirmizi IND 37520
    5 Mr.Muhammad Saqib Mumtaz PML-N 1754
    6 Mr.Naveed Akhter Khan PTI 250

    Valid Votes 117395
    Rejected Votes 3379
    Total Votes 120774
    Registered Voters 327352
    Percentage of Votes Polled to Registered Voters 36.89 %

    Posted 6 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 22:56 #
  8. janan

    Its true MMA did pull quite some votes in last elections.

    This time, PML-N candidate is almost surely gonna win. For one in general the party position is much better than last time. In the constituency, PML-N votes is not split, as was the case last time. And they will get the religiously inspired votes also, as JUI-F is supporting the General.

    Posted 6 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 22:58 #
  9. Anonymous

    In case of free n fair polls, Lt Gen ® Syed Salahuddin Tirmizi will definitely win.

    Posted 6 years ago on 31 Dec 2007 18:47 #
  10. PMLN on top. Doubtlessly Gen Trimzi wins here unanimously.

    Posted 6 years ago on 31 Jan 2008 11:03 #
  11. lughmani

    i think it is tough fight, this area is divided in faction/groups like qasim shah, gujar, sawties, and difinetly some party base voters. this time qasimshah and q canidate (gujar clan) are in same pannel . so it will be really close contest.

    Posted 6 years ago on 31 Jan 2008 11:13 #
  12. fawad

    After recount PMLN\'s Sayed Salahudin Tirmizi won by 53 Votes

    Posted 6 years ago on 24 Feb 2008 12:51 #
  13. adeel

    wat only 53 votes!!!!!
    comeon give it another shot its too close to call.
    Re-POLLING!!!!

    Posted 6 years ago on 24 Feb 2008 13:45 #
  14. sky786

    can some one tell me if the gujjar pahro yusaf has lost in the recount NA20 if that is true i will give £50 to my mosque fund

    Posted 6 years ago on 25 Feb 2008 13:49 #
  15. umarzaman

    hi my dear friends , ur Analysis went quite wrong, Again sardar shahjahan yousaf wins,
    and MR sky786 make sure u give 50 pound to mosque it doesnot matter who wins coz all of us r muslims u can give money to mosque incase of loseing as wel.
    one more thing politices is not for everybody so think before posting anything here,
    wish u good luck guys.
    SARDAR Sahab is back in form ,

    Posted 6 years ago on 07 Mar 2008 4:11 #
  16. yk

    He didnt win, he lost the recount, he\'s appealed and they\'r having repolling in two polling stations! Still a legal matter. But i think there\'s a chance the general will win still.

    Posted 6 years ago on 10 Mar 2008 9:54 #
  17. umarzaman

    my dear , sardar shahjahan has won , genral tarmizai is trying to win byforce, if people of manshera donnot want him in the NA , y he is pushing his self like this , if he wil do so there is a chance of havey volience in manshera bz people donot like him,

    Posted 6 years ago on 14 Mar 2008 10:34 #
  18. yk

    dude..the supreme court has stayed trimzi\'s order..he\'s the winner..force?? lolzz it was an election..he won..winner by even one bote is the majotiry elected rep..get used to it.

    Posted 6 years ago on 14 Mar 2008 13:24 #
  19. umarzaman

    my friend , we won by 1000 votes now go whereever u wana go ,
    u lost in election , if u think N League wil do some for him as ur guy has done in first result as wel in goverment votes , everybody now how u get the lead of 53 votes. and if u want repolling in NA20 again , n league wil lost by thousands i bit,

    Posted 6 years ago on 15 Mar 2008 11:43 #
  20. sardarji333

    sardar sahab has won the elections and there is nothing the ganjah anor harami swatis can do about it. Swatis are low born people that is why these bastards are not accepting the results.azam khan the son of a **** even offered his daughter to the election commisioner for this result but he refused saying i dont scew prostitutes.so now trimzi and azam khan should go and a have big grand swati family orgy now ahhahaha

    Posted 6 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 13:55 #
  21. adeel

    @sardarji333
    how did U know. I guess U thought everybody pimps his mom like sardarjis\\\'. LOL

    Posted 6 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 16:32 #
  22. sardarji333

    lol thanx man, u agree to the fact that he pimps his mom.may be the two of u are , one day ur mom and other azams ahahaha.waisay ur head pimp is that ganjah nawaz.

    Posted 6 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 19:39 #
  23. adeel

    and urs that eunuch chaudhary!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted 6 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 20:16 #
  24. yk

    wat?? lolzzz this was a cool discussion till a few posts ago......wats the deal?? hey if either wn\\ins, either wins, its democracy, the majority rules, but no need to get hostile. dont tell me sardarji is sardar yusuf himself because i heard his english on live with talat the other day and sounds similar, wats with th racist commentary?? did anyone see that prog? its on the videos so u can check it out, i dont see why ppl would vote for sardar yusuf except if they are racists.

    Posted 6 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 21:33 #
  25. ik

    yaar even if sardar jee wins for a hunderd years he will stay a gujar and we all know what gujars stand for they are just people who wash **** of cows and get their daughters get **** from khans...and this sardar jee he sounds like a sikh too me i m sure sikhs when they went from here they left some sperms ....sardarjee seems to me one of them :))))))lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Posted 6 years ago on 16 Mar 2008 23:21 #
  26. sardarji333

    \' The Black Mountain massif was a series of spur running up to a central, dominating ridge line, which as its highest, the peak of Machai Sar reached 9817 feet. Along this ridge ran the line beyond which the British writ did not run.... Politically, they were nominally under the influence of two independent princelings, the Nawab of Amb and the Wali of Swat, but these exercise little real power in the hills. On the eastern mountain, nearest British territory, lived the Swatis who pretended to be Pathans but fooled neither their neighbours nor the British, and were so little regarded that they were described by a contemporary as \'cowardly, deceptive, cruel, grasping, lazy. Replacing the bold frank manner of the Pathan by the hand-dog look of the wipped cur.\'

    By Nigel Collett in \'The Butcher of Amritsar: General Reginald Dyer\' on pg 53.

    This pasage is from a book written about almost 100 years back and well defines the history of swatis of Mansehra.So after reading this pasage swatis should think twice before calling gujjars low. SO BASTEREDS LAIQA FAIZA TRIMZI AND AZAM CAN ALL SEND THEIR DAUGHTERS TO OUR GUJJAR HEAD QUATERS IN BATAL FOR SARDAR SHAHJAHAN YOUSAFS VICTORY .P.S dont forget to give your daugthers ample supply of oil cause we gujjars have biger **** then ones they are used to lol.

    Posted 6 years ago on 17 Mar 2008 11:45 #
  27. umarzaman

    slaam everybody, we all r muslims and we souldnot write these sort of messages , plz stop this revange post thingy here, whoever get votes have a right to stay if he do wil give him a vote ,otherwise , people have a right to vote,
    y msulims r suffering in this world, Is bz west have divided us to rule, be togther and work for pakistan,

    slaam

    Posted 6 years ago on 17 Mar 2008 14:13 #
  28. ik

    who the hell gave gujjars a right to talk about british times....you forget british...you guys are still under the rule of khans...working ur **** of in our land.....and sardar..shahjahan the sperm of sikhs i m sure has nothing to offer but his **** ...and he is good in offering that....tirmizi should win coz we want ....free judiciary...and freedom of press...no one wants to vote for traitors like sardar gujjar.....who stands for killer league.....sardar has a head quarter in a cows ****...stay busy in distributing milk...if the cows stop milking milk ur women...but trust me that all u people are good for.......and i m sure a coward like you can abuse people by name on net...who have nothing to do with this constituency....but you would **** in ur baby pants if these people came right infront of you.....

    Posted 6 years ago on 17 Mar 2008 20:09 #
  29. umarzaman

    i request earlier to stop all this dirty messages, plz,
    behave like a muslim ,

    Posted 6 years ago on 17 Mar 2008 23:24 #
  30. ARCANE

    @Umar....GR8 Point bro!!! Thumbs Up!!!

    BTW r u in Dallas by any chance. I know someone up there named Umar Zaman?

    Posted 6 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 2:49 #
  31. ARCANE

    @Umar...sorry bro, i remembered his last name is not zaman!!!

    Posted 6 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 4:58 #
  32. ik

    @sardar

    bahan chod kay bacha kunee gand main takleef isi leya hai kay sawation ka lun tere maan main geya tha bohot zoor say harami bhool geya hai apna aslee bapon ko haram tukham...oghi kay chok main tere man ki kuss maroon ga our koi nahi bolay ga khusray....waisay bahan chod i need ur sister...gujreee janam lolzzzzzzzzz jitna marzi cheekh gawala ka gawala hai our rahay ga....neech zaat

    Posted 6 years ago on 18 Mar 2008 19:52 #
  33. sardarji333

    y are u getting **** of i am sure u and all ur other swatis faiza laiqa (gandu) and azam hear these sort of things every other day.the sisters and other females of the Gujjar family dont go out and ask for votes whereas daughter of trimizi and faiza came to my own house asking for my vote but i scewed them instead and refused to give them my vote, so they got all fired up and started swearing at me like whores from heera mandi .man one advice for swatis plz dont send ur girls out for electioneering, its a bad bad mansehra lol.

    Posted 6 years ago on 19 Mar 2008 13:59 #
  34. adeel

    hey ADMIN plzzzzzzzz INTERVENE!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted 6 years ago on 19 Mar 2008 15:50 #
  35. dr_abrar

    admin.....there should be some censorship here i guess.

    Posted 6 years ago on 19 Mar 2008 20:21 #
  36. lifevictory

    sky786
    what a non since person you are if u are showing your money and kaminna pan than go into **** club and lost your money dont write the rubbish stuff against gujjars and sardar yousuf.
    kamina harami

    Posted 6 years ago on 20 Mar 2008 19:40 #
  37. lifevictory

    sky786
    you mother **** you are showing your pounds what is your respect and who you are to saying this abusive language.
    dont use this **** language if you have self respect

    Posted 6 years ago on 20 Mar 2008 19:44 #
  38. sky786

    Lifevictory
    Oh pharoo there is no different between a gujjar and my dog they are and will be slaves forever. We still make them live in our bandi with our dogs (and you must be pharoo because you can’t write)

    Posted 6 years ago on 22 Mar 2008 5:23 #
  39. saanni_4u

    come on guys u people are educated and well off y u r misbehaving. can anyone tells how many swaties are winner at district level and how many gujjars are winner at national level.
    this is politics and dont try to abuse each other for anyone who even dont know anyone of you. and at time he will never help u.

    Posted 6 years ago on 27 Mar 2008 13:22 #
  40. lifetimevictory

    sky 786
    where is your trimzi some one said he wil be next defence minister but he is not deserve to be a minister of dogs.
    it is our challenge that you people will loose every time insha Allah.
    r u in uk tell me the city name.

    Posted 6 years ago on 01 Apr 2008 10:53 #
  41. sardar khurram shahzad gujjar

    assalam o alaikum,,i want to make ar request to all peaoples that plz dont abuse anybody.all are equal.in the eye of GOD that one is most greater who is sincere,pious and is closed to ALLAH.and dont we have to appear before our GOD.

    Posted 6 years ago on 17 Jul 2008 9:55 #
  42. sardar khurram shahzad gujjar

    WE HAVE TO APPEAR BEFORE OUR GOD.discuss in a soft manner either u r a supporter of trimzi or shahjahan.one has to lose then another one wins.

    Posted 6 years ago on 17 Jul 2008 10:02 #
  43. tirmizi is a Syed , who is an ex general and not an original resident of this area....but he has "connections" in the establishment...which can be beneficial only for HIS people, meaning rich and powerful Syeds....his benefit will not even trickle down to poor syeds...and he has led a rich life and powerful life all his life....and now wants to enjoy the civil rule as well...and he is a specialist, in politics a specialist is the worse thing to have as a leader, cause like Tirmizi who has spent 40 years in army will try his army background to civilian problems which is disastrous in nature...so his winning is a loss...Any one who claims to be a syed should be checked for his DNA, we have hairs of holy prophet rasoolAllah, we can confirm if these syeds are real or Hindus in origin...and when they converted to Islam they adopted the Syed title....

    ShahJahan : Is a Guj-jar , an original inhabitant of this land and since 1880 (forgive me if I am wrong) English declared the Gujjar Caste as a rebel and criminals cause Gujjars supported the Moguls against the English, one of the first names of Urdu language is Gujri language, check encyclopedia Britannica, and still today you can hear the Urdu grammar in Gojri in kaghan and other places...anyhow Sardar ShahJahan is a "boy" his father's boy who is a useless person, has no political experience and a lazy person with much education...ShahJahan is just keeping the seat warm while entire Hazara is being run by fake pashtun's and every area of real "power" is already given out to homosexuals ...So even if the Gujjar's win , the poor people of Mansehra will not get any benefit , any benefit of real merit...

    People loose no matter who wins...syeds or gujjars....or swatis or pathan's...they all win except the poor.....

    Mulla!
    After the earthquake, it was a golden opportunity to turn this area into Switzerland but afsoos....Syeds, Gujjars, and Swati's all rich of the three took the money and bought gas stations in USA....we need a third leadership....

    Posted 6 years ago on 17 Jul 2008 14:09 #
  44. sardar K.S gujjar

    how u all are

    Posted 6 years ago on 21 Jul 2008 8:23 #
  45. Sardar Saab:

    Tam Gojri Kartu hai ?

    Mulla!

    Posted 6 years ago on 21 Jul 2008 14:21 #
  46. Gujjar Talwar

    Mansehra Folks,

    Salam,

    I missed this discussion but found it amazing and sometimes pretty silly.
    I was in Pakistan last December. Election was heating up but then came unfortunate assassination of Benazir Bhutto. I left a couple of days later.

    Like it or not, people have spoken. My impression was that Sardar Shahjehan had
    an uphill battle and was more likely to lose but he did pull it through.

    Some of the outbursts by Swati's here are mind boggling. I think this is what works to the advantage of Sardar Sahib. These selfstyled biggies have to dismount their
    haughty horses and learn some civility. Z. A. Bhutto said, "Politics is the finest art and most creative profession". It is not for the ignorant. Gujjars and their allies are polite people but they know how to cut the "Phangar Khans and Jhakhar Shahs" to their size.

    Mulla Sahib, "Hoo'n Gojri karoo'n".

    Wassalam,

    gujjartalwar

    Posted 6 years ago on 21 Sep 2008 11:41 #
  47. Basharat

    Very disappointed by the above discussion and feel sorry that I couldn’t participate in this discussion last year. Anyway, Mulla is right. If we all always fight like this, every one of us will loose and rich/influential syeds, gujjars and swatis etc will win. To be honest they want us to be divided on race grounds as it makes them stronger.

    At least new so called “educated” generation should forget this dark past and try to be united irrespective of caste, colour or clan.

    Posted 5 years ago on 31 Oct 2009 0:20 #
  48. hi,
    there are live diffrant nation, on na 20 anybody no can win with out sardar group. and this is politices not personal but last time when tremzi won for few dayes where swati & syed done smoe happend like cap wear to dog and say gujjar than gujjar understand to other nation and now they are ready to do & dia and again sardar saib comback in form.

    thanks

    tanveer

    Posted 4 years ago on 24 Dec 2009 6:46 #
  49. humhain

    General Salahuddin was the best as mna but he has not ability to win. he says that he is honest, but as i think when he will win then he will go out from country. when we tell anybody that shahjan yousaf is our leader then we feel shame that what type of people we are?

    Posted 4 years ago on 27 Dec 2009 16:51 #
  50. msohail83

    I don't know anything about Mansehra. Who has the edge in this contituency?

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Dec 2009 15:23 #

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