NA 250 - Karachi-XII(53 posts)
Posted 8 years ago on 18 Dec 2007 1:29 #
my hats off to the ppl of clifton.
they are left with two bad choices.
Ikhtair Biag ,the industraliats ,the smuggler and ghuda brother in law of late Nazia Hassan ,who torture the lady at her death bed.
he is contesting with PPP ticket .
and MADAM KHUSH BAKHAT SHUJAAT from MQM.
madam herself is a corrupt lady with a corrupt hubby ,makes a perfect couple.
it makes it more perfect when she is contesting with the ticket of MQM.u know!Posted 8 years ago on 24 Dec 2007 8:04 #
1 Mr.Ovais Siddiq Jangda Independent 64
2 Mr.S.M. Altaf Pakistan Mazdoor Kissan Party 44
3 Mr.M.A. Wajid Jawad Pakistan Mulim League(QA) 4718
4 Mr.Khalid Kamal Independent 83
5 Dr. Mirza Ikhtiar Baig Pakistan peoples Party Parlimentarians 12105
6 Raja Arif Sultan Minhas Independent 16
7 Syed Javed Umer Sunni Tehreek 1226
8 Syed Kamal Shah Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf 3176
9 Mr.Tahir Sharif Khan Independent 47
10 Mr.Abdul Sattar Afghani Muttahidda Majlis-e-Amal 21462
11 Mrs. Surriya Rahim Advocate Tehrik-e-Istaqlal 144
12 Mr.Mamnoon Hussain Pakistan Muslim League(N) 5565
13 Mr.Nazir Ibrahim Shaikh Mohajar Qaumi Movement Pakistan 150
14 Mr.Nasreen Jalil Muttahida Qaumi Moment 19414
15 Mr.Noor Mohammad Independent 69
Valid Votes 68283
Rejected Votes 952
Total Votes 69235
Registered Voters 205400
Percentage of Votes Polled to Registered Voters 33.7 %Posted 8 years ago on 24 Dec 2007 9:52 #
Isnt there any probability for PML(N) to win? What if PML(N) gets most of JI votes.?Posted 8 years ago on 24 Dec 2007 9:58 #
PPP and PMLN have done seat adjustment here.
PMLN canidate saleem zia has withdran in favor of PPP candidate on NA-250 whereas PPP candidate has withdran in favor of saleem zia of PMLN on provincial assembly seat.
at least, now they can give a tough fight to MQM and probably win this seat.Posted 8 years ago on 24 Dec 2007 19:01 #
@GM, hahaha, i think u havn't been to khi,
karachi political dynamics r totally changed from rest of the country.
here even if an addicted, illiterate thug is being supported by Altaf bhai( the don), he is gonna win, let alone the lady of the stature of khushbakht.
no chance 4 anyone here except MQM.Posted 8 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 8:20 #
i think its u who is unaware of facts
from this seat, MQM lost the seat to MMA even when PPP and PMLn were also contesting.
If u combine votes of PPP and PMLN also, then these were more than double the votes of MQM.
Also in 1997 and 1993, MQM lost this seat.
this myth that MQM is popular in all karachi is totally false. u need to check the facts and figures first.
there are only 5-6 seats where MQM is strong, on all other seats, MQM can not win if a join opposition candidate is there, jsut check the 2002 election results and u will know better. and that too ws before impact of 12 may killings.
one more thing in 2002, MQM got about 600000 votes in karachi (20 seats) where as oppositition votes were 825000. U can confirm from election commission website urself.
Now is time when we shud talk based on FACTS and only FACTS.thanksPosted 8 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 12:00 #
@GM,Dude u r too optimistic to be realistic.
anyhow its just a matter of 2 weeks. i offer u a five-star lunch in lahore if u prove right regarding this seat!!
thats my bet.Posted 8 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 16:36 #
you should also give you address and contact details to GM for fulfilling your promise. GM is making sense here where as you are just promising like MQM.Posted 8 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 18:15 #
I want that dinner too, please send me ticket from canada to pakistan, As GM is right, MMA votes will go to PML(N) or PPP they can not vote for MQM. If jamat will not come out then there is little chance for DON but will be tight contestPosted 8 years ago on 25 Dec 2007 20:10 #
bro, i stand by my words. if mqm loses in na-250 ,a lunch for GM in lhr in any five-star hotel.
well as for abhmd from canada, dude u r too invited . but remember "there is no T/A or D/A, not even 4 GM. U 've 2 be in lhr to be enertained!!!
u may contact me on email@example.com in case u win the bet.Posted 8 years ago on 26 Dec 2007 1:01 #
yeh to dinner phir na karwanay wali baat hooi..Posted 8 years ago on 26 Dec 2007 1:07 #
mamoon aur kiya chahiya reassurance ke liye?
kia bache ki jaan lo ****! LOLPosted 8 years ago on 26 Dec 2007 1:08 #
'I think PPL are fed up with these Nawaz n Benazir's corrupt policy but I am surprised people are still favouring them here so wht u can expect from MQM n Karachi nothing will change i KHI as well. The biggest problem for Pakistan is feudalism and corrupt Generals not MQM, PPP or N grp, these guys always play with the system. Now a days MQM is coming as a BIG coalition party in the govt inspite of the allegations of terrorist activities against them. I am not hoping any change in Pakistan in this election as well but i pray to GOD that May Allah keep us away from these corrupt leaders like Benazir n Nawaz and protect Pakistan from malefic eyes. 'Posted 8 years ago on 26 Dec 2007 1:58 #
nam, 4 God-sake dont label my remarks pro-MQM.
he (altaf kalia) is the thug of this century.
its just the fact. i wonder if these guys who r saying that mqm is gonna have tough time have been to khi during past 3 yrs.Posted 8 years ago on 26 Dec 2007 9:11 #
MQM seems to be dominating karachi mostly due to its ghunda tactics. This is not to say that it does not have popular support. But it does not have the overwhelming support as people outside karachi believe it to have.
It is the biggest party in karachi but as GM pointed out, its electoral success is also dependent on division among its opponents.Posted 8 years ago on 26 Dec 2007 10:05 #
wat ever the reason is but MQM is securely placed for this seat.Posted 8 years ago on 26 Dec 2007 16:55 #
Adeelayub is right problem for karachihites is they really dont have any choice as they dont want to trust jamat-e-islami second popular party in karachi anymore as they were popular till early 80's and always ignr problems in karachi even they were very good allies of another dictator Zia ul haq.
i had some hope with imran khan but as he is not contesting the election MQM definatly win there these are ground realities as i lived in karachi even without there ghunda gardi.
may b you are not from karachi so u do not know MQM is only weak in two seats in karachi NA 239 And NA 248 which is strong hold of ppp exept these only 2 3 seats have good competition othewise MQM will clean sweep there because situation is changed now as ji is not taking part and any colition witout ji can not work out against MQM i know ji peoples they do not go out to poll their votes for any one.
I im also not pro MQM so plz dont be emotional these are facts there which i have been obseving last 15 years.
CaresPosted 8 years ago on 26 Dec 2007 21:50 #
a mistake in my previous post its NA 258 not NA 239Posted 8 years ago on 27 Dec 2007 0:43 #
Well Adeel u have ur own point of view but i am talking abt a fact that Benazir & Nawaz are the two most corrupt politicians, with MQM man i have voted for Imran's party in the last election but i know that still MQM will win the election with vast majority, but let me tell u one thing in the last election i was surprised to hear that Jammat gave a very tough time to MQM in my polling booth whtever the name is, but the fact is MQM is still in majority in KHI and i totally disagree with Imran's statement that MQM alwayz win the election on the basis of terrorist activities i think he or whoever says that has no idea abt ground reality in KHI. KHi is a city not feudal village so u can stand with a gun and u can ask every one to give ur vote to MQM, man this is KHI so don't talk goosey. Points on which i favour MQM in KHI is their voice for provincial atonomy and end of Feudalism in Pakistan. I am sure people from Punjab are the most victimized people from this wadaira system. I am not expecting any change in Pakistan but i want to see Musharraf to continue for few more years as though he is holding his seat with his power in an unlawful way but he is not a thug, not a corrupt man and no one can say that he is against Pakistan yes he is against some democratic and corrupt people like Benazir n Nawaz Sharif but this is good for my country and for that i salute him!!!Posted 8 years ago on 27 Dec 2007 5:16 #
well i am also predicting this seat to be a solid MQM, JI voters would have voted for PML-N but just because PML-N withdrew in favor of PPP does not mean the JI voters will vote for PPP guy to defeat MQM, they would probably vote in the provincial seat and PML-N might take it but the NA seat will go to MQMQ (www.pkelections.com) and no i am not a pro-Mush guy so please stop accusing me :)Posted 8 years ago on 27 Dec 2007 5:39 #
For those people who think that JI has got any vote bank , its a baseless assumption. JI/MMA was made to win in NWFP and some parts of KHI to punish the nationlist / liberal forces so that the monster of Mullaism can be used to make west afraid.
Some gentleman might quote Naimat Ullah Khan mayor ship or Abdul sattar afghani's mayor ship. Gentleman on both these occasions mainstream parties of Karachi were not in the contest.
In 1970 , there were 6 seats of khi out of which JI won only 2. After than first time they won a seat in 1993 when mqm bycotted. Even then 6 seats went to PPP , 6 to pml (n) .
This particular seat consists of defence / cliftion area along with some katchi abadis like neelam colony which might prove to be a vote centre for PPP specially after Benazir's demise and PLM(N) alliance with PPP. But still i think mqm is going to win .
Lets see.Posted 8 years ago on 31 Dec 2007 9:02 #
Why JI lost popular support in KHI in 80's
ans: 1) MQM muhajir card
2) JI's blunder in supporting Zia the Dictator
Soon there will be time when MQM will loose popular support in KHI.
People of KHI are too smart to see what MQM is doing with Democracy when it is supporting MUSH Dictatorship.Posted 8 years ago on 31 Dec 2007 16:48 #
JI got 8 years of karachi mayor ship (abdul sattar afghani) from 79 to 86 and becaz of its non-performance and dictatorship support , it was wiped out.
JI aslo supported msuh and got karacchi mayour ship in 2001 and then got nwfp govt.
Yes Mqm will suffer due to supporting dictatorship but probably they were left with no options after the 2002 elections.Posted 8 years ago on 01 Jan 2008 9:47 #
BHAI LOGON KO KARACHI SE BHAGAOPosted 8 years ago on 04 Jan 2008 19:18 #
probably u meant ,
BAHI, LOGON KO KARACHI SE BHAGAO :)Posted 8 years ago on 05 Jan 2008 13:37 #
HAHAHAPosted 8 years ago on 09 Jan 2008 18:43 #
While I appreciate what Mustafa Kamal (of MQM) did for Karachi, I will not vote for MQM as it is an ethnic/terrorist organization. It is violent and its leader is scared of returning to Pakistan.
The only alternative is the PPP (lesser of the evil theory). I feel MQM will lose from this constituency, though they will sweep Karachi as before.
Karachites always fall for the ethnic card. How unfortunate.Posted 8 years ago on 20 Jan 2008 12:30 #
Well it will be a tough contest bcoz PML-N & PPP has a seat adjustmemt but as the per the ground reality MQM gonna win this seat ,check the results of last bye-election on this seat. In bye-election MQM compain was run by all famous actors like One and only Omar Sharif etc. Also Khush Bukht Shujaat a well now media person and Karachi chammer of commerce persons from defence & clifton also supporting MQM. One more fact in 2002 JI was in City Govt, so that had the edge of their development work as well as registration of fake voters...(this all parties do whoever in power) now MQM has the edge, So this seat will go to MQMPosted 8 years ago on 22 Jan 2008 11:41 #
mqm is popular mostly in uneducated areas of khi,and ji and jup more popular in educated areas,last time from this seat mma wins n this time after the boycott of JI,and also pti whose candidate got 3000 votes and the saet adjustment btween ppp and pmln there is a chance the mirza of ppp might wins,but as i am a pmln supporter pmln for sure will win ps123 with the help of right wing vote of pti and mma which is 24000 according to last elections.For Na 250 there will be very tough compedition. let see who winsPosted 8 years ago on 25 Jan 2008 6:44 #
Well i never be a voter for MQM, if u r from Karachi u should know the fact that the literacy rate in Karachi Central District is highest among all district of Karachi......and MQM is very much popular in Central district........so saying they are popular in uneducated is not right moreover same for other areas of Karachi.On both PS-113(PS-123 is not the corresponding provisional seat for NA-250 , its PS-113) & NA-250 if PTI & JI supporters cast their votes to PML-N & PPP candidates, then there might be a tough contest otherwise not much hope for MQM rivals.Posted 8 years ago on 26 Jan 2008 7:48 #
MQM has lost this seat in previous elections. By-elections was a different story as most people didnt even vote.
Celebrities do not attract votes, otherwise Imran Khan would be PM now. People like Shafi Mohammad Shah, Filmstar Kamal, and others have lost before too.
If MQM wins in this seat, it wont be because of Khusbakht Shujaat...it will be because of Mustafa Kamal.
Anyway, i will vote for Ikhtiar Baig, not because i like him or beleive in PPP propoganda, but because I have had enough of the PML(Q)/MQM/Musharraf era. We want CHANGE.Posted 8 years ago on 26 Jan 2008 10:14 #
lol , oh yeah u want the change for off......otherwise he belongs to party which have long history of propagating and introducing dynasty in the democracy ......Currently their most candidates from feudal, industrialist and from rich class.....so u believe any change from them?? Ikhtir Baig , bro of a senator.... same family politician...why not PPP give ticket to common worker.....Posted 8 years ago on 26 Jan 2008 10:59 #
I agree with you regarding PPP being a dynastic party. I dont believe in PPP policies and I dont support the PPP one bit.
However, the alternative is MQM which is a terrorist/fascist party. They support a military dictator who doesnt want to leave power at any cost. Where is the Q league PM, Shaukat Aziz? He came to Pakistan in 1999 to rule and when his rule was over, left the country.
Regarding MQM giving tickets to common worker, how long has Khushbakht shujaat worked for MQM? Was she an elected councilor for MQM, or a Nazim, or a MPA? She came from nowhere and that tells us how the don in london works.
My vote for PPP is not an idealistic vote, but a vote for CHANGE from MQM domination.Posted 8 years ago on 27 Jan 2008 20:14 #
PLZ SEE THE CLIP BELOW:Posted 8 years ago on 30 Jan 2008 19:01 #
your hats off to the people of clifton?
Is character assassination of these candidates the best you can do my friend in posting your highly intellectual comment? Calling a politician corrupt, hmm.. lets see where I’ve heard that before? A comment like this is would expected from an illiterate driver or cook.
Listen friends, that’s just ignorant value judgment, these are allegations that have never been proven in the court of law, however, I feel that these two people are the best choice for candidates because they are smart, educated and have dedicated their lives to a cause compared to the uneducated feudal lords who have been coming into power in the past.
we\'ve tried the jahil politicians, maybe these highly educated people will be better? Who isn\'t corrupt these days? Everyone steals when they’re in power, but what I feel it comes down to is who at least gives back to the people.
I feel both these candidates have international exposure, which is think is a good tool for any Pakistani politican especially at a time where extremism runs high and when international Pakistani opinion is one of a terrorist state.Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 11:22 #
Well Khalid bhai this is ur prediction or what?Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 12:11 #
yeah.. are these your predictions? because the results have not been announced yet.Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 12:14 #
Well Karachi and Hyderabad city results are expected like this.....expect the Karachi seat NA-239 ....i doubt MQM can win this one.... otherwise they will likely get 17 seats from karachi and 2 seats from Hyderabad City........Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 12:18 #
i really dont think so.Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 12:28 #
well desipride whatz ur expections or estimates?Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 12:35 #
i don\'t agree with the NA 250 result.. too soon to predict anything yet. PPP-PMLN have potential.Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 12:40 #
Well let see.......counting under way....GEO started announcing the results of polling stations....no results from Sindh so farPosted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 12:44 #
yea im stuck to the tv. who do u think will win NA-250, and why?Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 12:45 #
Well as per the 2002, MMA won with very narrow margin.....plus PPP and PMLN dont get much votes....on top of this JI boycotting the elections , its most likely JI voters will not vote. Moreover if u see the result bye-election on this seat MQM had won with heavy margin.....so i think Khush Bakht Shujaat will won....... In which constituency u r located?Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 12:53 #
im in na250,
JI is backing mqm, but not in NA250. ppp, pmlN and Sunni Terek votes will combine, besides, there is also the factor of sympathy votes. there is a very close chance?
who do u support? im for pmln and pppPosted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 12:59 #
Well i can only support MQM bcoz of City Govt work....Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 13:16 #
well.. best of luck to your candidate.. may the best person for the job win.Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 13:18 #
Well said desipride....whoever will win, he/she must serve solve the problem of his/her area...Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 13:36 #
Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 16:20 #
Finally Khush Bakht Shujaat of MQM won by lead of 10,000+ votes........
Khush Bakhat Shujaat Muttahida Qaumi Movement Pakistan (MQM) 53295
Dr. Mirza Ikhtiar Baig Pakistan Peoples Party Parliamentarians 43062Posted 7 years ago on 18 Feb 2008 23:40 #
Ok there was a dinner, Adeel you won the bet, so who is taking who to dinner :)Posted 7 years ago on 24 Feb 2008 4:58 #
no it was one-sided BET. I offered someone( i dont remember his name) unconditionally to dine with me at royal palm lahore in case khushbukht shujaat looses.
Unfortunately I won, so sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Posted 7 years ago on 24 Feb 2008 14:14 #
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