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NA-54

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  1. tvanchor

    This seat was won by PML-N last time in 2008 but this time it is a sure short PTI or PPP seat.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 20:40 #
  2. kami

    @tvanchor
    bhai pata bhi ha NA54 kahan ha?

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 20:45 #
  3. siddiqi73

    Now I'm curious as well. Where is NA-54?

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 20:48 #
  4. tvanchor

    Haan pata hai white house kay pechay

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 20:49 #
  5. siddiqi73

    Lol.......Rawalpindi, the lion's den! hehehehehehehehehe.....nice going tvanchor bhai. Since you are a bit new around here, we'll cut you some slack and let you do a bit more comedy out here.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 20:50 #
  6. siddiqi73

    Zumarad Khan got beat by more than 25,000 votes in this constituency back in 2008. He probably is gonna get beat again by at least double that margin. As for Pakistan Facebook party, have they decided to contest the elections?

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 20:53 #
  7. tvanchor

    Me a member since September 2009 not a newbie lol.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 20:53 #
  8. siddiqi73

    Well it clearly seems that you haven't grown much since 2009 then.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 20:54 #
  9. munshi

    Haan pata hai white house kay pechay

    ---------------

    I thought it is Rawalpindi, but if it is behind the white house, than sure PTI will be winner with big majority.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 20:55 #
  10. siddiqi73

    Munshi Ji,

    Even if it is right in front of the White House at Washington Monument, PTI will still triumph with a massive majority.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 20:57 #
  11. tvanchor

    Bas karo na ji ab haar rahay ho to kiya hua. Can someone give them burnol.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 20:59 #
  12. munshi

    Will use burnol on Imran & Pasha just after the election.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 21:02 #
  13. siddiqi73

    Munshi Ji,

    The guy is just pulling your chain. He is a N-Leaguer and waiting for some Ilzami to scoop through these threads and get his pants wet out of sheer excitement.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 21:10 #
  14. tvanchor

    I'm neutral when it comes to politics.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 21:15 #
  15. siddiqi73

    Admin, please merge this and all the related threads with:

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/what-is-the-current-political-situation-of-ur-constituency

    Much obliged.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 21:17 #
  16. Dusky

    @Sid: Insomania?

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 21:18 #
  17. siddiqi73

    Rather Amnesia.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 21:19 #
  18. tvanchor

    Yes Admin merge all threads because nooners are feeling the heat.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Apr 2012 21:21 #
  19. chaudaru80

    lagta hai PTI is going in allince with PPP . thats why ancor says k pti or ppp can win .

    Posted 2 years ago on 03 Apr 2012 11:53 #
  20. chaudaru80

    ancor bahi kuch details bhi diya kerien halqay ki . yeh kia baat hui k eik line mein analysis khtam . kuch logics bhi dein .

    Posted 2 years ago on 03 Apr 2012 11:54 #
  21. Adonis

    PPP is dead here. Most of its voters will vote for PTI. Still, PML-N is in quite a good position and should be able to retain this seat by upwards of 20K votes.

    PTI does not have any 'electable' here and will be fully dependent on PPP and Q league votes.

    Posted 2 years ago on 03 Apr 2012 11:57 #
  22. chaudaru80

    @sidqui and munshi.
    yaar yeh ancor bhai k analysis se to lagta hai k pakistan mein sirf pmln he election haare gi .becoz yeh ppp ko bhi jeta rahe hain . karachi se IK k bare bhai MQM ko bhi jeeta rahe hain or haan Marhoom gen. Pasha k lawahiqeen PTI ko bhi jeeta rahe hian.

    Posted 2 years ago on 03 Apr 2012 11:59 #
  23. Engr Satti

    i am currently living here..Zumurud VS Malik Ibrar VS Raja Basharat vs Zahid Kazmi or Ijaz Ul Haqq...

    Three time ijazull haq won...last time PML-Q given ticket to Raja basharat(bro in law of ch shujat and kabza mafia head for malik riaz)...one time zumurud khan won...

    if Ijazull haq goes with PTI...it will be very strong contest between 3... but if PTI goes with Zahid kazmi(x pti punjab president and one of among those who were with pti when only 10 left)
    here bassically Lal mosque lovers lives...Masjid siddique e akbar...They are very close to Raja Zafrull haq and Ijaz ull haq... Being shia they will not support Zahid kazmi..nobody knowa zahid kazmi here..he lives next house to mine...

    Malik ibrar was a conseler...there was no big guns availble in NA-54 for PML-N..neither had workers... but Peoples voted for Nawaz shareef only... and nobody voted for malik ibrar..from pp 10..shahbaz was candidate in bye election after won by Malik ibrar and he left for national assembly...
    PML-N has done remarkable works here..school colleges,roads,flyover and also established party here...Zumurud also did allot as zakat chairman...and he is also very nice and clean person... so its again very close contest...

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 7:56 #
  24. Adonis

    Ijazul Haq has left rawalpindi for good and now contests from Bahawalnagar. He is not a factor here anymore.

    Zamurd khan has been Chairman Bait ul Mal and there will be some questions about his eligibility if his position is considered a government job.

    PTI still has no final candidate here with Ch Asghar, Zahid Kazmi and Shahid Gillani being main contenders. In any case PTI is not a significant factor.

    Similar is the case of Q league and Raja Basharat will be lucky to get even 15 thousand votes.

    If PMLN gives ticket to Malik Abrar again, his brother will not be given the ticket for underlying provincial assembly seat.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 8:38 #
  25. Engr Satti

    FYI...Malik ibrar and his brother both are given ticket...zahid kazmi and ijaz ull haqq is under consideration.. Ijaz ull haq is suerly a good one coz of his affiliation and vote bank among ulema e dyuo band as well as in Barelvi's,chudhry's of choor harpal...raja's of westridge, and his affiliation with army generals...he carries 30k..his own vote bank here..i am 100% sure if IK didnt given ticket to zahid kazmi..its going to be tough ask for PML-N..i am PML-N Worker from same area since last ten years... Ijazull haq has great roots among Elite of westridge as well as locals...but After Hafiz hussain ahmed joining PML-N would certainly favours PML-N..moreover If nawaz himself did jalsa here...than only PML-N will win...zumurud already resigned.....he already having corner meetings.. jor tor has begun...last efect would be only Nawaz's jalsa here...coz RWP is only PML-N'S House and safe heaven...Peoples just love nawaz shareef..even IK cant make any progresss among youth or Ladies...

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 8:47 #
  26. mawan1971

    No matter whom PML(N) gives ticket this is a stronghold of PML(N) and this is a Rawalpindi Cantt. (urban) seat so don't even think of these people will give vote to PPP+PML(Q) after such a pooooooooooooor performance. PTI if put upfront a strong candidate may be in race but candidate is unknown so hard to say anything on them.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 8:51 #
  27. Adonis

    Ijazull Haq is under consideration? By whom?

    Ijaz is not in PMLn or PTI or any other party. He heads his own PML-Zia. So he'll give ticket to himself rather than being considered by any other party.

    There is no way Ijaz has 30 thousand votes in this constituency. The last time he contested here in 2002 he got a net total of about 4 thousand votes. It was after this humiliation that he decided to contest from Bahawalnagar only.

    Not many in the constituency know Zahid Kazmi of PTI. His best electoral performance in the history has been 564 votes. PTI would do well to give someone like Shahid Gillani a ticket from here, who with support of JI will pull good votes but no way near enough to beat PMLN.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 9:09 #
  28. mawan1971

    Ijaz ul Haq is in PML(N) or in alliance with PML(N) but he may not be a candidate from here as he will be from Khanewal.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 9:14 #
  29. mawan1971

    Correction, Ijaz Ul Haq NA 191 Bhawal Nagar

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 9:17 #
  30. Engr Satti

    Detail Result of Constituency "NA-54" Go Back
    S.No. Candidate Party Votes Status
    1 Zamurd Khan Advocate Pakistan Peoples Party Parliamentarians (PPPP) 31,491
    Winner
    2 Raja Muhammad Zafar-ul-Haq Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML N) 28,805 Runner Up
    3 Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) 12,676
    4 Muhammad Ijaz-ul-Haq Pakistan Muslim League(Z) 4,164
    5 Ghulam Qadir Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) 2,479
    6 Allama Ayaz Zaheer Hashmi Pakistan Muslim League Quaid-e-Azam (PML Q) 1,640
    7 Syed Zahid Abbas Kazmi Pak Wattan Party 560
    8 Syed Ghazanffar Ali Shah National Alliance (NA) 264

    if u say that where the vote for Ijazull haqq gone? i told already there is influence of ijazull haqq and zafrull haq..both.. in 2002 ...Masjid siddique e akbar voted for Zafrull haque and religious vote gone in favour ... but Ijazull haqq is next... coz zafrull haqq will not contest from here...but its PML-N Seat for sure if nawaz does one jalsa here in NA-54...

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 9:30 #
  31. Adonis

    The influence is PMLN's influence not the personal influence of Zafrul Haq or Ijazul Haq.

    Raja Zafrul Haq does not live in the area and has never contested from here except for 2002 when he was forced to contest as PMLN did not have any candidate.

    The votes he got in 2002 were all PMLN votes as religious votes went to MMA candidate.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 9:53 #
  32. Engr Satti

    Raja Zafrul haq...is chairman of PML-N since 1999...He is back bone of PML-N..he is life time president of Motmer alim islami..and He has svere influece in Rawalpindi Region and he has his own vote bank as well...He was the one among those who put a name of Mian nawaz shareef instead of junejo...so dont call him a small candidate..a few People like him made PML-N a very strong party..whereever a conflict appears or PML-N has to talk with opponents like PML-Q.PPP.MQM...He is the one who initiates and every party respects him allot.
    if you knew Molana lal mosque or molana rasheed of Siddiq e akbar...they never supported MMA ,JI or JUI...they support PML-N candidate always...see above chart..almost all candidates are religious... EXCEPT Zumurud..

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 11:21 #
  33. Adonis

    I never said that Raja Zafrul Haq is a small candidate. His services for PMLN are exemplary. But the fact is that his personal vote bank is in NA 50 not in NA 54.

    By the way there is no such thing as Molana lal mosque.

    If any Molana had any significant vote bank in NA 54, it used to be Riaz Hussain Shah who at the height of his popularity got 38 thousand votes. There is no other molvi who in his personal capacity can get even 10 thousand votes.

    You really need to brush up your knowledge about NA 54.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 12:23 #
  34. Shirazi

    @Adonis bahi

    Remembering Syed Riaz Hussain Shah who never won election but got decent votes perhaps one or two times shows you know NA 54 very well. I was there when Moulana Riaz Shah got that many votes.

    I think PMLN will give ticket to Ch. Tanveer, or I 'd say they should. Because of degree concerns they couldn't in 2008 but as far as I know from Pindi Ch. Tanveer stood most firm with Sharifs when Mushraaf intervened. Nawaz Sharif is known to remember both firends and foes.

    I am not sure who PTI's candidate will be but any unknown middle class educated guy can do wonders here. Part of this constituency is rural but rest is Pindi Cantt - highly educated military retirees. They used to vote for Ejaz ul Haq but this time everyone I talk to seems to be impressed by Imran Khan. I won't be surprised if PTI wins the seat but it 'd require, momentum, good candidate and professional campaign similar to one ran by Syed Riaz Hussain Shah.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 12:39 #
  35. Adonis

    @ shirazi

    Ch Tanveer's nephew was given MPA ticket because as you have pointed out he could not contest himself. This time he himself is likely to contest and may get either an MNA or MPA ticket.

    PTI's problem is that it does not have a prominent middle class educated candidate in this constituency. Its potential candidates are known locally as loan sharks and qabza group. PTI may end up supporting JI on this seat.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 15:43 #
  36. tvanchor

    I don't know why you guys are wasting so much time on this seat which will eventually be won by PPP.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 16:06 #
  37. Shirazi

    I don't think JI has any good candidate there as well.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 18:37 #
  38. Mr Meem

    I am not sure who PTI's candidate will be but any unknown middle class educated guy can do wonders here. Part of this constituency is rural but rest is Pindi Cantt - highly educated military retirees. They used to vote for Ejaz ul Haq but this time everyone I talk to seems to be impressed by Imran Khan. I won't be surprised if PTI wins the seat but it 'd require, momentum, good candidate and professional campaign similar to one ran by Syed Riaz Hussain Shah.

    Finally Shirazi Bahi also seems to be impressed by Imran Khan.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 21:19 #
  39. mawan1971

    @Mr Meem
    Everyone is impressed by IK, but his own political mistakes caused a downfall to point where people are saying 10 NA seats will be a achievement for PTI.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 21:43 #
  40. Mr Meem

    people are saying 10 NA seats will be a achievement for PTI.

    Mr. Joker, who are these people? Are these people also Joker like you?

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 21:46 #
  41. Shirazi

    @Mr Meem Saab

    Of course I am impressed with Imran Khan. Not just Imran Khan, but also from Nawaz Sharif, Musharaaf, Zardari --- they all are their for their extra ordinary talent else we 'd see many bloggers from this forum at helm. But they are humans and make mistakes like everyone else. I respect them but don't worship them.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Mar 2013 22:33 #
  42. Engr Satti

    @adonis...

    Raja zafrull haq is from kahuta my home town but he has very big influence in rwp politics with strong relations with bashi khan,awan group,malik's and kashmiri families..
    i myself did campaign last time and there are few peoples in rwp who hold the authority in city Plus PML-N's immense support due to nawaz's work in every area...

    Posted 1 year ago on 27 Mar 2013 11:31 #
  43. wienerwald

    @ satti, don't want to hurt you brother but you have no idea whatsoever about this Constituency and your last message really shocked me, Raja Zafarulhaq don't need third class people like Bashi Khan, i don't know which election compaign you are referring, in 2008 Bashi khan's son Zohaib Khan was contesting from Q League and lost badly against shehryar Riaz Mpa ( pmln )and i have no idea about Awan Group and Kasmiris you meant !!!...
    I don't need any information from Internet to discuss Na 54.

    Na 54,55,56 are typical Pmln constituencies, only pmln Ticket matters here.

    1985 elections Raja shahid zafar won this seat against basharat raja, at that time nawaz sharif factor was not there...remember one thing basharat raja and ch tanvir were always against each other till today because of Chairman distric council seat, basharat Raja and ch afzal brother of ch tanvir both were Chairman district council rawalpindi, so ch group supported Raja shahid zafar.
    1988 Riaz hussain shah factor was there rightly said by Adonis, Raja Shahid Zafar won again.
    Then Ijaz ul haq won this seat three times on pmln ticket.

    2002 elections Raja zafarulhaq Sahib was our candidate but 3 days before elections he told us personally that Musharraf has decided in GHQ meeting that he don't want to see Raja Sahib and Ch Nisar in Parliament, they totally changed Ch Nisar's constituency and divided his stronghold areas in two constituencies but Ch Sahib still manage to win one seat under Musharraf,Raja Sahib lost that election.
    Ch Tanvir was convicted in that famous SC Attack case, so he can't contest election or hold any Public office, 2008 elections Malik Abrar was our candidate and he won queit comfortably, pmln did't loose even single polling station in 2008.
    I can write whole book on pindi politics, i know almost all politicians....

    Posted 1 year ago on 03 Apr 2013 0:10 #
  44. Engr Satti

    @wienerwald Good Analysis.. i havent said its not PML-N seat..only one jalsa from NS will make this seat ours..so lets not go for eachother..InshAllah we r gonna sweep..

    Posted 1 year ago on 03 Apr 2013 8:41 #
  45. kashif5095

    PML (N): 70,000
    PPP (+ Q): 40,000
    PTI: 30,000
    JI: 10,000

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Apr 2013 12:12 #
  46. Adonis

    PTI 30,000?

    Even if the whole 10th Corps is officially ordered to vote for PTI, still PTI won't be able to get 30,000 votes.

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Apr 2013 12:34 #
  47. adeel

    ^^ whats your take on 56 bro?

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Apr 2013 12:35 #
  48. Adonis

    NA 56 seems competitive only because Imran Khan himself is contesting. I don't see PTI winning NA 56. PML-N should take it with a margin of 15-20 thousand.

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Apr 2013 12:38 #
  49. sam45

    PMLN-Hanif Abbassi will easily win NA56, if you go to the NA 56 area and ask people there, personally you'll find out the actual situation! PMLN will win with a bigger margin than last time!

    It is PTIs set strategy! to target pindi seats right now through media and propaganda! and lahore later on! It is only the media promoting PTI in these seats, for their set agenda!

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Apr 2013 13:24 #
  50. sadaat

    I have been to NA-55 area, Murree Road, Banni area. Here sentiment is very positve for N & people in street were willing to vote for PML-N.

    They are saying that N looks strong to win this seat as well

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Apr 2013 14:49 #
  51. expolitician

    but what about the "clean sweep"..how dare can you say that "peerzaada allaama hazrat Imran Khan's" dream is false?

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Apr 2013 14:52 #
  52. kashif5095

    You need to understand the spirit of "garh" of PML. NA 54, 55, and 56 are garh of PML. There has always been votes for right-wing parties here. Except in some NA 54 rural areas which resulted in Zamarud Khan success in 2002. But it was basically due to people not voting, due to no option. I belong to Na 54. People were overwhelmed by negatives of Nawaz Sharif and company and "so-called" prosperity induces by Pervaiz Musharraf policies. But even then they did not vote for "defected" PML-Q. My understanding is that PTI would take votes of new voters. But its cannot be more than 10000 to 20000 (depending on turnout). Few PPP voters would vote for PTI and PML-N, fewer in the later case. The same trend would retain for other 2 constituencies.

    Imran Khan would give best fight and even may win with little margin. But Sheikh Rashid has no chance.

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Apr 2013 17:48 #
  53. juttjee420

    NA 54 is more rural and lower middle then army area people on this forum who havent even been to this place army has nothing to do here only westridge area is there which has some retired army officers other wise vote is lower middle and rural ab this during last 5 years the worst problem in NA 54 has been law and order second "WATER" and third people seeing roads being made in GHQ area and the rest area is like tora bora only one fly over has been construted.
    We can say alot of people in this area are literate PPP has no chance PMLN is winner PTI is unknown anything can happen all depends on turnout if turnout goes to 70% i see PTI winning clearly other wise if turnout is 35-40% like last time PMLN is clear winner PPP will get between 10-13k in both ways.

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Apr 2013 18:17 #
  54. adeel

    PINDI KIS KA BY SHEIKHOO & PAIJA

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Apr 2013 19:22 #
  55. Adonis

    Competition is between Malik Iftikhar of PML-N and Zamurd Khan of PPP. PTI is lagging far behind.

    Malik Iftikhar has clear edge.

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 May 2013 8:16 #
  56. Engr Satti

    @adonis

    its Malik ibrar not malik iftikhar..Malik iftikhar is on PP 10..Malik ibrar's elder brother

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 May 2013 13:35 #
  57. danney707

    I always thought PTI might some serious chances of putting up a show in NA 54 due to a part of it is Rawalpindi Cantt. But they are lagging behind even there then KUPTAN ji need a scapegoat for his defeat in Rawalpindi.

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 May 2013 14:27 #
  58. Adonis

    @ Engr Satti

    You are right. It is Malik Abrar. My mistake.

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 May 2013 18:24 #
  59. xainahmed

    PTI candidate emerges as strong candidate against rivals

    Friday, May 10, 2013

    With only one day left in elections, like other parts of the Rawalpindi district, the overall situation has dramatically changed in NA-54. The contest between the candidates of PML-N and PTI has become neck and neck, while the PPP candidate has slipped to the third position in this constituency.

    Till last week, the PML-N candidate, Malik Abrar, who was looking quite strong and considered a favourite to defeat his political rivals in this constituency, and PPP’s Zamurrud Khan are now facing tough time at the hands of once weak PTI’s Hina Manzoor. The female candidate of the PTI has suddenly gained popularity and became a real threat to Malik Abrar of the PML-N, who till last week, had clear edge over all his political opponents, including Zamurrud Khan of the PPP.

    Till last week, people believed that the contest would be between Malik Abrar and Zamurrud Khan. PTI’s Hina Manzoor was considered as a certain loser from this constituency not only by the public, but even the PTI’s activists and supporters were sure about her defeat at the hands of Malik Abrar.

    The PTI leaders and workers had reportedly objected to party chief Imran Khan for his decision of awarding ticket to Hina Manzoor by neglecting senior and prominent leaders having good reputation among people in the constituency. However in no time Hina Manzoor, through her hard work and struggle, has now succeeded in changing the entire political scenario in the constituency, which without any doubt now going in her favour.

    In comparison with the improved situation of Hina Manzoor, the position of Malik Abrar as well as Zamurrud Khan is falling down with the passage of time. The low turnout of people in the corner meetings of Malik Abrar and Zamurrud Khan speaks about the falling graph of these once strong candidates among voters. Those who supported the PPP and PML-N in the past were switching over their support to the PTI candidate this time around.

    In the beginning of her electioneering in the constituency, Hina Manzoor had the support of only young people. However now, people belonging to various walks of life, including traders, shopkeepers, transporters and vendors, are fully backing her in her election campaign. The participation of a large number of supporters in door-to-door campaign and corner meetings of Hina Manzoor in different parts of NA-54 clearly reflects her rising popularity among the people of her constituency.

    The banners and flags of PTI installed in large number in shops, markets, workshops, residential buildings, streets, roads, electric poles, vehicles and public transport clearly reflect the rising popularity graph of Hina Manzoor.

    To ascertain the position of candidates in the run for NA-54, this scribe interviewed a large number of people of all classes and conceived that the PTI candidate is having 40-60% edge over Malik Abrar of the PML-N and enjoys far more lead than this over Zamurrud Khan of the PPP and Rizwan Ahmed of Jamaat-e-Islami in this constituency.

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-6-176468-PTI-candidate-emerges-as-strong-candidate-against-rivals

    Posted 1 year ago on 10 May 2013 8:48 #
  60. danney707

    I guess cat will be out of the bag within 36 hours.

    Posted 1 year ago on 10 May 2013 9:10 #

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