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NA 89_Jhang IV

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  1. Zaheer

    In 2008 election results were as below;

    Sheikh Waqas Akram PML (Q) 51,733
    Ahmad Ludhianvi (Independent) 44,894
    Dr. Abu-ul-Hassan Ansari PML (N) 15743
    Sheikh Waqar Ahmed Advocate PPPP 9363

    2008 Result Comments:
    Here election is contested on sect basis.
    In one to one competetion Sipah sahab candidate loses mostly because they have fixed votes on sect basis and overall the opposite collects all the rest.If some one divides the ant sipah sahaba votes as Tahir Ul Qadri had done in 2002 elections then Sipah sahaba candidate will win for sure.
    2013 Election Analysis:
    PMLN:PMLN has good repute here but can only win if they elude Sheikh Waqas or Maulana Ludhianvi.Maulana Ludhianvi is not considered to gain party votes though.Sheikh Waqas will gain party votes but even then Sheikh Waqas can win only in one to one competetion with out any 3rd spoiler in contest.
    PPP:They do'nt have any candidate
    PMLQ:They can have chance of win if They be able to retain Waqas and no 3rd spoiler is involved.
    PTI:There r rumours that Waqas can join them if PMLN supports Ludhianvi.In that case they may have a good chance of winning here.In other way they may act as a spoiler here.Ansari Family is in PTI perhaps.They can not win on PTI ticket but can make an easy way for Maulana Ludhianvi.
    Contest in this NA will be very tough and every party have to be careful in selecting cadidate.To ensure win of Ahmed Ludhianvi 3rd spoiler should contest as well otherwise Ludhianvi have to try in some way to beg party votes(if PMLN supports) as well which has never happened before.

    Posted 2 years ago on 07 Apr 2012 13:52 #
  2. siddiqi73

    PML-N should try to rope in Sheikh Waqas. In the event they are unsuccessful, they should give a ticket to someone else than Ludhianvi. Its better to lose than to have a winning horse on your ticket in the form of Ludhianvi who has a rather unsavoury repute and would only bring bad press to PML-N.

    Posted 2 years ago on 07 Apr 2012 13:56 #
  3. chaudaru80

    @ siddiqi.
    bro i m sure that Ludhyanvi will get PMLN support becoz of Defa-e-council. i dont know k yeh achi move ho gi ya buri but ho ga aise he . i think Nawaz want to get right wing support and if hafiz saeed sopports him then it will be beneficail in all the pakistan.

    Posted 2 years ago on 07 Apr 2012 15:05 #
  4. daani

    @cahudaru80

    PMLN will never give ticket to Ludhianvi. You need to understand its impact and consequences for PMLN at national and international level.

    Defa - ePakistan council has no vote bank. Ludhianvi has some support on sectarian basis but only locally.

    From your comments i can gues that u r overesiating difae e pakistan council. they have mostly losers like shikhoo etc.

    MPA of forward block like sheikh yaqoob could be another option here for PMLN ticket. It aslo depends on surrounding areas if faisal saleh or abida group joins them. Asad saelh hayat or even Molana Rehmatullah could also be option for PMLN.

    PMLN might chose to have adjustment with Ludhianvi to keep the seat open in case Sheikh waqas joins PTI.

    Posted 2 years ago on 07 Apr 2012 16:15 #
  5. chaudaru80

    @ daani bhai .
    may b u r right. but i m not saying k defa-e councal has votes or not. i m just saying k miyan sahb wants to make an allience with them. and i didnt mean that ludhyanvi will get pmln ticket . i mean k he will get pmln support only.

    Posted 2 years ago on 07 Apr 2012 16:21 #
  6. daani

    Mian sahib has not loss his senses to go for alliance with difa e pakistan etc. NO WAY

    Posted 2 years ago on 07 Apr 2012 16:23 #
  7. chaudaru80

    @ daani .
    that is sure k pmln will emerge as an largest party of NA. but miyan sahb wants atleast simple majority so that he can govern single handedly . becoz he doesnt want to be blackmailed by smaller parties and establishment. more over wo chahtay hain k cabinat small ho jaisa k 1990 and1997 mein cabinat choti thi and aaj bhi punajb ki cabinat chooti hai.u can see todays
    situation in Fed. level and three provices k cabinat bohat he baari hain. so is liye wo her option use karen **** becoz un ka muqabala Parties se nai bulk establishment se hai . so in my opinion miyan sahb will go with defa-e-concil. one thing k Hafiz saeed ki bohat support hai .

    Posted 2 years ago on 07 Apr 2012 16:38 #
  8. daani

    Hafiz saeed has no vote bank . Getting his support is just a liablility

    Posted 2 years ago on 07 Apr 2012 16:42 #
  9. chaudaru80

    ok lets see what happens.

    Posted 2 years ago on 07 Apr 2012 16:54 #
  10. Zaheer

    افسوس ہے کہ نواز شریف نے ہمارا ساتھ دینے کا وعدہ کیا لیکن عین وقت پر ووٹ حکومت کے حق میں ڈال دیا۔
    (مولانا سمیع الحق کا آج جھنگ میں بیان)
    لگتا ہے شیغ وقاص اکرم کی خدا نے سن لی۔

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Apr 2012 11:31 #
  11. siddiqi73

    @zaheer Bhai,

    Maulana Sami-ul-Haq jaisay agencies kay tatoos ko sirf P0nka Khan jaisa bunda hee vote day ga.

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Apr 2012 11:38 #
  12. chaudaru80

    @ zaheer bahi.
    what do u mean ? can u explain

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Apr 2012 11:38 #
  13. Zaheer

    As Sami Ul Haq has said this in Jhang then it means PMLN is not going to support Ahmed Ludhianvi.Sheikh Waqas may get PMLN ticket instead.

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Apr 2012 11:56 #
  14. siddiqi73

    @Zaheer,

    PML-N would do itself a huge service by keeping as much distance as possible between itself and Ludhianvi. The guy is a serious bad news and PML-N just cannot afford any bad press on this guy.

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Apr 2012 12:05 #
  15. chaudaru80

    ok gud thats mean Waqas ka rasta open ho gaya hai and i agree with siidqi bro.

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Apr 2012 12:27 #
  16. 3D_fanboy

    What is the situation of this halqa now as i have heard that Maulana Ludhianvi of SSP has made alliance with PPP and PML N is giving ticket to sheikh waqas' father. 7k margin is still a big one and do you think that Ludhianvi can give a tough contest to PML N ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Apr 2013 17:29 #
  17. chaudary801

    @3D_fanboy Bhai..
    Ludhyanvi will win easily ....

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Apr 2013 18:57 #
  18. 3D_fanboy

    @chaudhary801 bhai
    Hmm why do you say that ? any specific reasons ? well even if pml n loses this seat, i will still be happy to see a ghulam-e-Sahaba(R.A) in parliament. Just my two cents ...

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Apr 2013 19:36 #
  19. chaudary801

    @ 3D_fanboy Bhai
    many reasons ...
    1... pmln local body of jhang hasn't expected sh waqas in pmln
    2... sh waqaas repatation is badly damaged now
    3... jamat ahal-hadid supporting pmln in whole pakisatn but on this seat they r going with Ludhyanvi nd all other relegius parties as well supporting Ludhyanvi
    nd bro may pmln leadership also want Ludhyanvi to win ..

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Apr 2013 20:15 #
  20. sipahi

    Dunya reporting Waqas nomination accepted.
    Was news about his A & O levels not true?

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Apr 2013 17:14 #
  21. sipahi

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-97225-Election-2013:-Sheikh-Waqas-Akram-back-in-business

    MULTAN: It was a big day for Pakistan Muslim League–Nawaz (PML-N) leader, Sheikh Waqas Akram as an election tribunal on Wednesday gave him a go-ahead to contest Election 2013 from NA-89 Jhang IV constituency, Geo News reported.

    Earlier, a returning officer had rejected former federal minister for education’s nomination papers after his A-level certificate could not be verified from the concerned institution.

    Later, Akram filed an appeal against his rejection, which was accepted by the election tribunal.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Apr 2013 18:56 #
  22. Raza Hassan

    now its sure victory for Shaikh waqas akram in NA 89 , as Brelvi and Shia both vote to him and Lidhanvi only get support from 40% deobandi population in jhang.

    It was chance of Ludhanvi if Waqas akram remain disqulified but now its clear victory to Shaikh waqas akram..

    1 confirm seat to PML N..

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Apr 2013 19:25 #
  23. sipahi

    So who is winning here, father of Sheikh Waqas Akram vs Ludhyanvi?

    Posted 11 months ago on 03 May 2013 0:04 #
  24. sweet_heart

    Competition will be very tough,But Moulana Ludhyani is leading here.......Allama Tahir ul Qadri who was runner up in 2002 In Na 89 also announced his support to Ladhyani.....

    Posted 11 months ago on 03 May 2013 2:48 #
  25. sipahi

    How come TuQ is supporting ASWJ

    Posted 11 months ago on 03 May 2013 4:31 #
  26. sweet_heart

    @sipahi
    It happened after the inclusion of Sh Waqas in PMLN...........

    Posted 11 months ago on 03 May 2013 5:06 #
  27. mawan1971

    @sweet_heart
    Molana Ludhianwi has fixed votes and Skeikh Akram or Waqas will get PML(N) votes which is on the rise. PML(N) has successfully create an impression that they are making next government, this thing will help them in very close fought seats. Lot of people knowing which party is winning think that their vote will be wasted if they cast to losing party.

    Posted 11 months ago on 03 May 2013 5:18 #
  28. sipahi

    @sweet-heart

    I thought TuQ has declared that it is SIN to cast vote in this election.

    Posted 11 months ago on 03 May 2013 5:22 #
  29. Chaudhry

    here is not 02 candidates but an independent candidate also who has support of Faisal Salih Hayat (who has a lot of followers here) . in my opinion he has also brighter chances to win.

    Posted 11 months ago on 03 May 2013 5:38 #
  30. Raza Hassan

    In Jhang NA 89 , Mostly vote cast on Religious basis , regardless of Govt impression or what ever hawa flowing ..

    In 2008 Shaikh waqas akram got 54000 votes , Both Shia , Brelvi support him

    Ahmed Ludhanvi got 45000 votes and Deobani is 40% total votes in this area. they 100% support to Ludhanvi ,

    in 2002 this vote was divide by Tahir Ul Qadri by cintesting himself , in that he got 38000 votes and Shia Nominated got 36000 and Azam tariq won that seat by 40000+ votes , due to distribution of Brelvi and Shia votes.

    In 2013 election. PML N has very bright chance. and its 60% in favour of PML N , Coz shia brothers from that area support Shaikh family.

    Posted 11 months ago on 03 May 2013 6:34 #
  31. 3D_fanboy

    I think we will see a close contest here but edge is for PMLN.

    Posted 11 months ago on 03 May 2013 8:16 #
  32. sipahi

    Any news on NA89?

    Posted 11 months ago on 11 May 2013 15:44 #

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