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Nawaz Sharief Point of View

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  1. Not Possible
    Blocked

    NS was twice PM. all he did was come up with cons
    1.Qarz utaro mulq swaroun
    2.Ameer ul Momenin Ordinance
    3.Yellow cab scam
    4.Sasti Roti
    5.Flood Tax

    Mian Sahab fled out of Pakistan in a jiffy barely a day he survived and then when he came back he lied about the deal with Saudi Arabia. Had it not been for Benazir he would have not even come back. It was Benazirs pressure on Musharaff and US that allowed the sucess of ARDP movement and Mian Sahaeb could come back. Does Mian Saheb not have a Palace in Riyadh?

    That Nuclear Test was done at Mian Saheb time has nothing to do with him. Our Nuclear programme had been in place for years and we would have not revealed it had India not tested their bomb. Even then we knew that the bomb was ready but we didnt bargain from a position of strength to get our debt cancelled or force India to resolve Kashmir. So Main Saheb wasted a perfect oppurtunity.

    Wake up to reality dude Mian Sahab is not from amongst you the working class.

    Posted 1 year ago on 28 Aug 2010 20:03 #

  2. alirazaster
    Disabled upon Request

    NS is a topibaaz

    itna he awam k dhukh hai tou apni arbon ki jaidad jo k najaiz tareeqay say haasil ki hai wo sailaab zadgaan mein kyun nahin bnant'ta?

    mawroosi siyasat wala....beta bhi assembley mein, bhai wazir-e-aala, khud zia-ul-haq ka muun bola beta... taliban ka hami, sipa sahaba, LJ LT ka haami

    pakistan agar NS k haath mein chala gaya tou mazeed barbaad ho jaye ga...

    Posted 1 year ago on 28 Aug 2010 20:37 #

  3. coolbema
    Member

    Accha chaloo tum logo k hath may daitay hai takey Pakistan kamyab ho jai!! now happy:-)

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 2:05 #

  4. Not Possible
    Blocked

    @coolbema

    You did not reply to any points just brushed it aside,

    Hum log koun, we are Pakistanis just like you and what we are saying is nothing about humaray hath mein we are saying is that ordinary people like you and me take it in our hands and away from Landlords and Industrialist mafia. Its time for the ordinary working middle class to take over from the thugs who have deprived the people of Paksitan for so long.

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 2:54 #

  5. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    It is really hard to find a good leader in this corrupt political scenario. All are alike or similar in terms of corruption.

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 3:27 #

  6. barackosama
    Member

    There is no room for PPP any more. PML-N deserves another chance. I think they have learned the lessons more than anyone after 1999, but they do need to do some shuffling around before they come on-board, or else their end would be much earlier than 5 years.

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 4:39 #

  7. Not Possible
    Blocked

    PML-N is already in full control in Punjab, are they any better? They are doing full corruption whilst in power in Punjab governance is poor. PML-N and its leaders are munafiqs. Please dont be fooled by these con men. Allah kay wsatay wake up to the reality of these munafiqs. They support the Taliban and all fantical groups, Rana Sanaullah is a total badmsah.

    NS was twice PM. all he did was come up with cons
    1.Qarz utaro mulq swaroun
    2.Ameer ul Momenin Ordinance
    3.Yellow cab scam
    4.Sasti Roti
    5.Flood Tax

    Please Allah kay wastay hosh kay nakoun pakrou Pakistan cannot survive another round of these corrupt thugs. Come out of your Nationalstic holes and think bigger save Pakistan and rid us of PPP and PML-N. Voting for Nawaz would be the biggest mistake you could make.

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 4:52 #

  8. zenith
    Member

    @Not Possible

    While you blame the political opportunists, you fail to identify the real culprits - The mystic establishment which in reality gave birth to many of these political actors we are worried about today.

    The establishment's adventurism has transformed Pakistan into an ethnically charged state. Politicians cash in on this, and it really works for them every time ( especially in sindh and Balochistan, and now in KP). Whenever you take on the politicians, do take a minute to think about as to why majority of people vote them in time and again. Politicians are only the effects brought about by the real illness " Our supereme establishment" which has maintained a corrupt stats quo since the country's existence.

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 7:24 #

  9. perdaisi
    Member

    @ Not Possible
    meri jan bohut tapay huye ho khair hai ... :)
    ma bro .. m not fan of any political party but just try to speak truth .. the things you wrote up there are not all true .. i am sorry ... Ns is corrupt not that as zardari but he is .. i agree ... but
    if you see with open eyes and open mind there are many good qualities in him as well ... first and the top most is that he is a leaned politician now who has learned from his mistakes .. so far we have never got one such politician .. when bhutto learnt we hanged him when BB learnt we killed her :(
    now we are left with only one ... such
    now coming to what he did and what he did not .. you have mentioned many things which he did not .. but i think depriving him from the credit of nuclear tests is a bit unfair
    apart from that .. all the construction and progress which happened in Musharaf era was planned in NS era ... and it was just 20 to 30 % of the total things he planned .. Moterways he built .. he did the agreement of Jf17 thunder with china .. guawader port was designed in his era and many other things ... about kashmir .. Athar abbas shah is a well known pro PPP journalist he and many other agree in fact no one dis agree that NS had done a lot of progress regarding solving the kashmir issue when kargil incident sabotage every thing ...
    BUT ... i cant change ur view point as it seems to be so hard and fast ... and firm .. it feels like you dont want to even listen to any one ...
    take care and take some chill as well :)

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 7:30 #

  10. salaudin
    Member

    As some one mentioned earlier ( i think it was "Not Possible")that Nawaz has been tried almost three times now and he is preparing to fool Pakistanis once again. It truly would be "shame on us" if we believe that Nawaz is going to deliver.
    When compared to Zardari, he seems better (or should I say some people in his party e.g. Javaid Hashmi but keeps people like him out of the government)but if someone is comparable to Zardari,you can imagine that person's caliber.
    To conclude, we have given Nawaz 2+ chances and I believe that he has delivered very little. We desperately need a change, not more of the same.

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 7:52 #

  11. Not Possible
    Blocked

    @ ?? -- ????

    Please brother do not be fooled by this con artist NS. Our problem has always been that our memories are short and our expectations high. If you can time and time again try to side with PPP-P or PML-N in hope that they have learned their lesson why do you malign MQM when it does the same?

    NS supports Taliban and all fantical goups, he wanted to be Ameer a total dictator, if he had learnt his lesson he would not have supported Rana Sanullah and his croonies.

    Punjab is the largest by population and most devloped and resourceful province, he is alreay ruling atleast 50% of Pakistans resources, has his goverance been satisfactory over the three years? No its poor ...its happening even now, then why do you want to give him another chance?

    These waderas and Industrialist thugs are not the working class. If you dont want to vote for MQM dont, but vote for change vote for PTI.Trust me If Nawaz comes in things will get so worse that I will not even be around to say I told you so. Must you keep forgetting these thugs and getting burnt again and again. Isnt it enough that they have already fooled you thrice and bought Pakistan to this stage?

    @ zenith
    All I can say is that I 100% completly agree with what you wrote, Politicans have sevrely damged Pakistan, but most damage is by the establihment.

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 7:56 #

  12. perdaisi
    Member

    @Not Possible
    meri jan ... merey bhai ... I am going to end this debate ... as you seems not to agree and what you are writing is how logical you judge by urself and if u cant then there is no use of debating here
    this is not true that he is taliban supporter .. at time every one did supported them .. rightly or wrongly u better judge .... IK is also accused big time for that ... I am a registered and old member of PTI ... a political worker for the party u are supporting on internet .. but i cant lie and cant agree to lie .... the rest of what u said is also not that true ... and if u insist then i must quit
    thanks
    ALLAH HAFIZ

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 16:11 #

  13. Dusky
    Member

    NS was twice PM. all he did was come up with cons
    1.Qarz utaro mulq swaroun
    2.Ameer ul Momenin Ordinance
    3.Yellow cab scam
    4.Sasti Roti
    5.Flood Tax

    And you forget the biggest ill of all... He seize all foreign currency accounts of Pakistanis during his premiership.

    This single step was the biggest blow for Pakistani economy. This shattered the confidence of the people especially the Pakistani living aboard up to the level where they refuse to participate in Pakistan's economic growth.

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Aug 2010 20:55 #

  14. coolbema
    Member

    wat ever Nawaz Sharif iz much much better den any other politician. If he is taking sumthing he also spending and giving good lot in Pakistan. Corruption is every where in Pakistan who iz not corrupted? See the cricket players !!even our single person in pakistan is corrupt when ever ordinary person get a chance he will do corruption. My dear all its hard to fingd "Maseeha". Nawaz sharif iz Atleast Patriotic.

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 9:45 #

  15. Not Possible
    Blocked

    So that the solution Nawaz Sharif steals and redistributes to his cheetay? His corruption is acceptable if everyone else does it wo? What a leader. Nawaz is a munfiq. damn it he wanted to be Ameer ul Momenin. I mean what more do you need to say he is corrupt.

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 14:10 #

  16. coolbema
    Member

    Y u hate Ameer Ul MOmenin? Because its a islamic system? Do you know the mean of Munafiq? Ok dats ur view about him but wat about Altaf HE is Ghaddar!! We dont want people like MIr Sadiq And Mir Jaffer. The ghaddar people Is the grand Munafiq Living In Pakistan and supporting India.

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 18:19 #

  17. Not Possible
    Blocked

    Do you know the calibre of a man needed to be called Ameer ul Momenin? Does NS measure upto the calibre of leaders like Hazrat Ali. Is his sirat anywhere like such leaders?
    Islamic governance start with you, your nafs, tell the truth and put your hate for MQM aside for once, okay MQM is all bad as you say if you wish but your really think in the three chances NS has got that he has done anything for Pakistan? That he is sincere? Honest answer needed. Think about Pakistan, vote for change, enough is enough of these crooks and con men.

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 19:47 #

  18. gazi23
    Member

    For them everyone who support anyone other rthen PMLN is a traitor...

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 20:19 #

  19. coolbema
    Member

    Well!! We dont want u people to support PMLN becz ur Patriot INdian Altaf Bhai is enough 4 u guyz. Ok dont Support PMLN but support sum Pakistani Party !!!

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 21:50 #

  20. gazi23
    Member

    @coolbema

    MQM is the registered Party in Pakistan so that makes it a Pakistani party...

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 21:55 #

  21. Not Possible
    Blocked

    If you calm down and analyse your statement, thats just bigotary and propoganda. He is not a patriotic Indian and his party is about more than just man now, there are indviduals like, Mustafa Kamal there.

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 21:56 #

  22. achtung
    Member

    time for ppp and pmln is going to be over. some new faces will emerge if pakistan is to stay.

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 22:01 #

  23. coolbema
    Member

    Dont worry guyz Pakistan will stay and survive there are still "SUM" Jiyalays. The rest of da nation & Parties apart 4rom MQM supporters Lead Pakistan. The next face is emerging contrast of Nawaz and he is "SYED GHOOS ALI SHAH" :-)

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 22:07 #

  24. gazi23
    Member

    @coolbema

    There is a news for you....Musharraf is announcing his Party next month...So Nawaz Sharif should started thinking cause Mush is coming back to Politics...

    Posted 1 year ago on 30 Aug 2010 22:51 #

  25. siddiqi73
    Member

    @ghazi23,

    And we have also heard that Mush the Table master will be taking over MQM once he lands in Karachi. If anything, it should be y'all who ought to be worried. There is a bullet somewhere in Pakistan which has the name of Altaf Hissain's father written all over it. I doubted if he is gonna come back.

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 Aug 2010 6:20 #

  26. choosy
    Member

    he he he
    Nawaz kay pass na tou koi point hay na view .
    bus apni batting turn ka wait kar raha hay .

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 Aug 2010 10:17 #

  27. siddiqi73
    Member

    Choosy Bhai,

    Tum kis ko prefer karo gay batting karna.....NS ya phir Altaf Bhai ko?

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 Aug 2010 12:26 #

  28. Dusky
    Member

    In dono ki batting to betting ki nazar hogay ha....
    I would rather abandon the match and put a life long ban on both of them for playing again.

    Posted 1 year ago on 31 Aug 2010 15:46 #

  29. aryan1
    Members

    you are doing great job and we appreciate your firm stand on principles. the whole nation is behind you and your party. you are our last hope so please keep it up and do not let this nation down. please save this country from Mr 100% Asif Ali Madaari who is working on foreign agenda in order to damage the integrity and good name of the country. we wish and pray for your long life and success in your efforts.

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 Sep 2010 21:33 #

  30. aryan1
    Members

    Dear Friends,
    in punjab 88 Lac flood victims control punjab government with his own resources you can watch the program of Hasbe Hall on 26 August 2010 that will clear you about PML(N)work in Punjab after flood then if you say any thing after shabaz efforts i will say you mad. Reality is front of us but some body ignore that and want their own point view with out Truth.

    So, we are proud on punjab govt and PML N on his better work in flood related area.

    God bless u Shahbaz NAwaz

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 Sep 2010 22:07 #

  31. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    N$ is finished now. Two continuous defeats in Punjab .
    NA-100 & NA-184 by PPP in this month.
    http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=51020

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Sep 2010 0:13 #

  32. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    Good that Nawaz has developed a view now. LOL

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Sep 2010 3:00 #

  33. aryan1
    Members

    Let us all try to work together to build a stronger and better Pakistan. Provide world’s best education to our children because they are our future. So let us equip them with all the right tools to do so. With great education they can think better and vote for the right leaders to run our country. Unless you want another Zardari!!!!!!!! (I hope not)

    I hope what Mr. sharif is saying is true. Nawaz patriotic thinking and his Vision is take up Pakistan that he thought in 1999. when Pakistan Economy ruining better position. I hope he will work to strengthen all the institutions in Pakistan. People of Pakistan have great potential, given the right envoirnment to work. This nation is very hard working and if we all work together, we can build a much better and beautiful Pakistan.

    Let us all pray for the betterment of our country. May Allah give us vision to select honest, hard working and dedicated leaders who can devote their lives in building our beloved country to a GREATER Pakistan. Amen!

    Nawaz Sharief points of view if every Pakistani gets education then there is no need or revolution.
    so, i will say you one thing if every pakistani gets education then change at home.

    Education is a big revolution.

    Regards,

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Sep 2010 20:08 #

  34. Not Possible
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    Another cam by Mian Saheb, and this one is good..wow him caring about education what has he done for the nearly three years he has been in power in Punjab.Dont trust the scam master.

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Sep 2010 4:35 #

  35. aryan1
    Members

    Not possible,

    Shame on you what he said only this kay har pakistani ko education provide ki jaye then there is no need of Revolution Because Education is big revolution.

    is main kya cam hai dafer

    very shame like you people

    punjab every school govt provide Computer education. Shahbaz sharief nay tamam punjab kay govt school ko english mediam kardia kay unko bi quality education provide ki jaskay

    one thing more jo bachy No.1 ya position letain punjab unko punjab govt God of Honour deti hain or unko HAward Cambirdge oxford kay visit karty hain.

    Inshalla NAwaz sharief ko ap jaisay log jo education ko be scam kehty hain i feel shame like u people.

    abay jab tak paindu educated nh hoga ismulk main kuch nh hoga or nawaz nay yeh nh kaha kay sirf main ao to yeh hoga ussnay kaha aise karny say Education revolution aye ga pakistan

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Sep 2010 7:00 #

  36. aryan1
    Members

    tna he awam k dhukh hai tou apni arbon ki jaidad jo k Earth Quake kay paisay say Musharaf or Altaf hussain nay najaiz tareeqay say haasil ki hai wo sailaab zadgaan mein kyun nahin bnant'ta?

    Earth Quake main purny karachi nay MQM ko Dollars kay samundar diye thy where is Money

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Sep 2010 7:23 #

  37. naseemkhanan
    Member

    @aryan1
    Live and let live. Would you?

    You are clearly a cheeky political idol worshiper, your’s being Nawaz Sharif. In your rhetoric to glorify him you praise Nawaz Sharif and smear Imran khan by discrediting his efforts. Have some air man because many here may agree that Imran could be anyone but a corrupt person.

    Imran built a hospital making his mark as a social worker. On the other hand isn’t it true that you’re brilliant amir al Momaineen was labeled a corrupt cheat and a bank fraud who got all his loans written off. What kind of a person he is who pays only Rs 5000 in total as property tax.

    You should be ashamed of yourself being intellectually dishonest ; reflective of a typical Gawalmandi mindset.

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Sep 2010 7:38 #

  38. aryan1
    Members

    NAseem
    you have prove kay he is bank corrupt. shame liek you people

    phri judiciary nay nawaz ko Hudabia paper mills ki corruption say free kyu kia becuase he is not involve

    judiciary nay kyu nawaz ko hang kia u have any prove aise hi apnay ap say jhut bolny kya faida.

    Agar nawaz corrupt hota to Musharaf usspar jhuty Muqadmay na banata balkay jo real thy wo banata real main uspar koi corruption hai nh isliye you Mushi father of altaf nawaz ko ulta tang deta

    imran khan hospital Gareebo kay liye banaya lkn Gareeb ko jhutia parti hain wahan shame liek this type hospital

    joker of Poltics is imran khan

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Sep 2010 7:49 #

  39. aryan1
    Members

    NAwas sharief is future of Pakistan as said by NAjab sethi.

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Sep 2010 8:00 #

  40. aryan1
    Members

    its been good few days since this guy was arrested ...what influence has NS used so far to rescue him....u must have some evidence to prove your reply?

    btw you rightly picked up on this news item, but did you notice any stories about another relative NS ...hint.....he is NS's brother and is doing something on flood relief????

    i suppose you are one of IK's follower? I am correct isnt it! most of IK's followers have only one objective that is to somehow discredit NS with a hope of getting some votes in future? sorry. its not possible

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Sep 2010 8:16 #

  41. aryan1
    Members

    NAwaz sharief MOtor way na banata to aj ap ko koi investor na milta kachi sarko par phirty

    NAWaz sharief nay LAhore kay jungle say london banaya G is also a effort of nawaz sharief.

    MOtor way
    Atomy dhamakay
    Independence judiciary
    AWAdar bandargah
    Chines prime Minister said MR. nawaz jaisay ap pakistan main popular hain isi tarah chaina kay log ap ko pasand karty hain.
    NAwaz sharief ko agar paisay ka lalach hota to zardari ki govt aik minute main gira sakta hai

    lkn nawaz chahta hai kay govt 5 saal puray karay agar 2 term bi puri hogai to paksitan main khud ba khud inqalab ajaye ga

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Sep 2010 8:48 #

  42. aryan1
    Members

    PML(N) is Educate party, I specially thanks some re presenter of PML(N) is every where to support our party. Its very gud for us we are well aware of that what will be the next.

    So, keep supporting your party The Future party of Pakistan.

    There is lots of supporter in every forum.

    Regards,

    Eid Mubarak to Every one

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Sep 2010 11:23 #

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