sasherwani
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Nawaz Sharif has been in Pakistani politics for decades either as a CM, FM or a PM. He along with his family members has held many key positions in the Pakistani political system. Let us discuss what he has contributed to Pakistan may it be positive or negative.
Note: Please keep this thread free from MQM/PTI/PPP/ANP/JI/PML(A to Z except for N)etc bashing and let's discuss Nawaz Sharif and his political family ONLY! Staying relevant might actually result in a useful and meaningful discussion.
2011pakistan
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Nawaz Sharif started his political carrier during Zia regime. He was supported by establishment/agencies/rightists when Afghanistan was under Pakistan establishment influence.
Nawaz Sharif government twice ousted when establishment felt their puppet is going out of control.
Nawaz Sharif has average caliber but has the following plus points for Pakistan's interests;
1. belongs to eastern value family instead of burger family,
2. Pakistani educated in normal schools of middle class, not from feudal institutions like chief college or Western English medium schools,
3. Belongs to business family therefore, his tenure has been good enough in economic development despite US sanctions,
4. Always decided in the interest of Pakistan,
5. Always inserted his leading role without hesitancy viz a viz Army Chiefs,Presidents, USA etc.
6. Never put off his pent in front of USA like Musharraf,
7.During his regime, Pakistani currency was stronger than Indian Rupees,
8. Took strong stand against establishment at a number of times,
9. During his tenure, USA Ambassador was not declared Viceroy like Benazir Bhutto regime,
10. During his tenure USA imposed all type of sanctions but he managed,
11. Economic conditions of Pakistan have been better than today during Nawaz Sharif regimes,
12. Nawaz Sharif started mega projects like Motorway, Gowadar port, Makran highway, Bhasha Dam, Nuclear explosions, etc.
13. Nawaz Sharif has better qualified team to handle present day economic & financial crisis in Pakistan,
14. Nawaz Sharif is pure Pakistani , having eastern family values and iron man against influences of coward/hidden pressure groups.
Though, Nawaz Sharif is not an ideal leader but still better than other lots available at present.
bsobaid
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2011, majority of your points sound more like rhetoric and superficial that cant be measured or tested.
Only point 12 has some substance for discussion.
In my opinion, N-League seriously lacks any strategic thinking and is based on small time tactical actions and they unfortunately miserably fail when they try to put their tactical plans into action. Examples include peeli taxi, sasti roti, qarz utaaro, forex account freeze etc.
bsobaid
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As for contribution, They have contributed towards democracy and played their role in putting the nation on path to two party democracy. Their political party initially belonging to center and center right channelized and to some extent moderated the extremism.
N-League, among others, persuaded and brought MQM to join main stream.
They did some good infrastructure work for central and Northern punjab.
hasanawan
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Nawaz Sharif is a modest poor person living in just a 43 acre piece of Land in Raiwind with hundreds of servants...
He always talk about poor in his centrally air conditioned House.....
Also I am proud of Nawaz Sharif as he is a Poor person but still he gives 5000 Rs tax only because he is sincere to Pakistan...
Also Nawaz Sharif have only 700 Police Force Security and about 300 Commandoes of Punjab Police protect Raiwind Farm and all money comes from Punjab's Budget. But he dont want security but People of Punjab want to protect our Haq prast Quaid Nawaz Sharif...
Thanks to Nawaz Sharif that he Appointed Musharraf from out of turn Promotion and over seeded many competent Generals and this Merit Violation of Nawaz led to the demise of his own gov....
Sahrif Brothers Sasti Rooti have ended Poverty in Punjab.....
Sharif Brothers Danish Schools have enable every Student of Punjab to go to school.......
Also Sharif Brother's have spent more than 40 percent of budget on Lahore and thus Make the Whole Punjab strong and Great....
Also Sharif Brothers have ended food streets and any project realted to Chaudries so that Political Rivalry Politics will prevail and any good thing in Punjab will come to an end......
Sharif Brothers Yellow cab scheme is spending 12 billion rupees in 2011/2012 budget to purchase 20,000 cars from SUZUKI while the same amount could be spend to set up a state of the art Production facility in Punjab for cars manufacture and Indigenous development of cars in Pakistan but this was Awarded to SUZUKI a foreign company owing to good kickbacks and filling of pockets......One every car they will now get a commission.......
In the end Nawaz Sharif Zindabad...
saladin89
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Nawaz sharif came to power by sitting on the lap of Zia Ul Haq. He maintained an alliance with General Rahimuddin Khan, who was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee. During his political career, Sharif also had close ties with ISI Director-Lieutenant-General (retired) Hamid Gul, who played a substantial role in the formation of the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad- a conservative political alliance that supported Sharif.
(1) He belonged to business family, his business economic sense has been good despite US sanctions, during his term he looted many money of awam, and invested in his steel mill, and put his money in swiss bank accounts.
What a great economic person he is.
(2) In his 2 terms a built a motorway and supposedly stood up to US pressure. NO guys he did not build the motorway with his own hands.
The motorway which was completed in 1997, cost around 989 million dollors, and no people did not come from his own pocket. Also there are rumours that nawaz took back hands and made money out of this.
Concerning the nuclear tests he had no choice, if he had not carried out the explosions awam and army would have kicked him out.
Co-operatives Societies Scandal
Sharif also lost support because of the co-operatives societies scandal. Co- operatives societies accept deposits from members and can legally make loans only to members for purposes that are to the benefit of the society and its members. However, mismanagement of these societies led to a collapse in which millions of Pakistanis lost money in 1992. In Sharif’s native Punjab 700,000 people mostly poor people lost all their savings when the states cooperatives societies went bankrupt. It was soon discovered that The society had granted billions of rupees to the Ittefaq group. Though Ittefaq hurriedly repaid the loans the Prime Ministers reputation was severely damaged.
(3) A number of important industries, such as shipping, electricity supply, airlines and telecommunications were opened up to the private sector. He introduced several large scale projects to stimulate the economy, such as the Bartotha Hydro power project and the Gwadar Miniport in Baluchistan. He also tried to solve the unemployment problem by importing thousands of taxis for many young men, but it came at a cost
(4) Also he had a problem with chief justice of those days, his mawwali gunde threatened the CJ and also it has been said that police beat the CJ of that time.
(5) If anyone did not agree with him, he tried to oust them.
(6) Overall because of his corruption and time incompetantcy he let the country down.
(7) As for him standing against US it is non existence, whether the situation with Kargil or recently Raymond Davis.
(8) U can say he is better than ZArdari, but well below the mark of being a leader of Pakistan.
bsobaid
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Privatization policy was a good contribution, although many feel otherwise. Thanks Saladin for reminding.
expakistani
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-Yellow cab & privatization
- Putting Pakistan on information high way, that should go to his credit..bringing fiber optical channels to Pakistan.
- Also some credit must go to him for allowing Pak Army and AQ khans team to do nuke testing.
- Bringing Punjabi Nationalism to light.. which was hiding under PUGRI for long
- He can still grab votes of Anti-PPP.
Just_one
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Saladin's analysis is spot on.
salaudin
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1-Yellow cab & privatization
2- Putting Pakistan on information high way, that should go to his credit..bringing fiber optical channels to Pakistan.
3- Also some credit must go to him for allowing Pak Army and AQ khans team to do nuke testing.
4- Bringing Punjabi Nationalism to light.. which was hiding under PUGRI for long
5- He can still grab votes of Anti-PPP.
1- Fair point
2- Cannot say much but an argument could be that it was happening around the world (correct me if I am wrong though)
3- NS was actually AGAINST it
4- I do not know how is this a "positive" contribution
5- Again, how does it help Pakistan...Pakistanioon kay liyay to yeh "aasman say gira, khajoor men atka" hi ha !!!
I was talking to an economist a few months ago and he told me that NS economic policies were a major contributor for our economic problem. NS active drive to increase the TOTAL trade had widened the trade deficit of Pakistan hence price hikes. Instead of having less trade with narrow trade deficit ( 3 export and 4 import {i cannot recall the units, just remember the magnitude}), he wanted a lot of trade which intern increased the trade deficit (12 import and 6 export). The trade deficit went from 1 to 6 which contributed significantly towards the economic crisis of Pakistan.
@JustOne
mari post say pehlay hi mari tareef ;)
siddiqi73
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Another useless thread initiated by the haters who are caught in the whirlwind of Sharif-Phobia.
Just_one
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Nawas Sharif's dark contributions to Pakistan far outweigh his positive contributions, if any.
It was the rise of Zia's dictatorship's leftovers which saw the epic rise of corruption in Pakistan. Compare corruption stats in Pakistan from before 1985 with that in 1990s and you will see what I am talking about.
This business and industry mafia that entered the corridors of power on the back of establishment, headed by Nawas Sharif, introduced corruption in all fields of life.
Nawas Sharif's biggest contribution is the rise of land mafia, corruption, thuggish and feudal politics.
sasherwani
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When I think of NS, I think of:
1) A corrupt businessman who started small before he came into power and then extended his business empire whenever he or his brother are/were in power
2) A person of low IQ and intelligence who is half as intelligent as some of the less mature politicians of Pakistan. Someone who can never participate in real time or live debates because of his low and slow comprehension skills and knowledge
3) A coward who always looks for the easiest way out may it be forming a coalition with a corrupt government, a maafi-naama requesting refuge in Saudi Arabia to avoid jail for corruption crimes or compromising nuclear technology in exchange for a good package from his masters
4) A backward individual - please dont confuse backward with 'conservative'. I have full respect for conservatives but this backward individual possesses a mentality better suited for a stone-ager.
5) Incompetent individual who isn't even 'aware' about the details of problems Pakistan faces forget knowing their solutions.
6) A racist politician who has always promoted provincial divide just like his partner-in-crime-match-fixer Altaf Hussain
7) A thief who has stolen funds through many initiatives his governments promoted including taxi-cab schemes, Karz Utaro Mulk Sanwaro and the successful motorway scheme.
khanamer
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I would say, in the spectrum of realism and global situation, NS had played his role in the favor of the country, whenever he is in govt, for some odd reason ( maybe because of adopting better policies), i would say developing telecom sector was the major achievement. Motorway Project, Gawadar Port might have given the economy of Pakistan the right uplifting it required those days...Even Nuclear test on 28 May was his decision, although few would argue that he was hesitant, but end of the day, he did went for it...
I would further add that, we should learn to remember the positive and negatives of any political leadership, hatred just because someone is different or someone does not fits our criteria is rather childish approach and should be avoided.
ajhons
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@khanamer
I second your voice. hatred is no good for anyone.It simply keep us away from the reality of good deeds and limit our ability to learn from the good qualities of others.
How can we say that this man is all good and that man is all bad.
NS did good things and also no so good things.Despite my reservation regarding PML(N)'s politics i still rate Shahbaz Sharif very high for his Eagerness and enthusiasm for the betterment of his province.
sasherwani
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@ khanamer,
So if the 'fathers' of Pakistani nuclear power themselves accuse Nawaz of accepting a US package in return for the nuclear program, you would still trust NS more?
NS ne mulk ko lootnay mein aham kirdaar ada kiya hay.
hum unka yeh ahsaan kabhi nahi bhool saktay.
he he he
sasherwani
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khanamer
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@Ajhons, thanks buddy!
@sasherwani, I don't want to get into argument, otherwise, Dr,Samr Mubarik was on record saying that the team led by Dr. AQK didn't made the bomb.... what matter today is, NS did it during his regime!
I have been part of high-level decision making in some top Organization which deal with Private-Public-Partnership, the decision such as that big are not taken with the blink of eye, Pros and Cons are discussed, the Opportunity Cost and Risks related to a particular event should be evaluated, taking decision without careful planning and without giving it a thought would/could land the nation of 170 million people in bigger mess...
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