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New forum - Faith & Religion

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  1. dadmin
    Administrator

    Introducing a new forum; “Faith and Religion”. This forum can be accessed through a Header Tab or from the forum list (at the bottom of main Discuss page). The topics related to this forum will not be tracked on the main page. Instead, you have to manually click the tab to see the most recent topics.

    This forum is reserved for pure religious topics and will be lightly moderated. All the rules of COC still apply to this forum. Any issue related to this forum should only be posted in this forum itself. All outside requests will be ignored.

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Jan 2010 4:36 #

  2. netengr
    blocked

    آخر کار بڑی بحث اور لڑائیوں کے بعد اس فورم پر بھی مذہب اور سیاست کو الگ کرنا ہی پڑا

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Jan 2010 10:22 #

  3. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    If this category has been made to separate DEEN from politics, there is no one more deluded than those running this site.

    If the admins are Muslims, I would urge them to learn Islam, before dragging along the west's agenda on their forum.

    If they continue with this charade, they will render their forum worthless in the eyes of Muslims of Pakistan. People will stop visiting their site, since they would be going against the interest of Muslims of Pakistan.

    A public forum which claims to be for politics of Muslims should represent politics of Muslims, not politics of west.

    For Muslims, their politics comes from Islam.

    You people will soon see how great western politics is, when US economy fails. So far, you are not ready to heed anyone's warning.

    I wish ALLAH shows you that day sooner than later, so you can process that info in your mind, through all the knowledge you have acquired, and reach the 'understanding' that ALLAH ALMIGHTY and HIS given political structure is FAR! GREATER than the nonsense (political ways) of the west.

    Obedience to ALLAH ALMIGHTY should be absolute!! That is what matters. People who are born in this world will live 60 or so years at maximum. The unending! life will be the afterlife. NEVER! forget this fact.

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Jan 2010 10:41 #

  4. javedsheikh
    Members

    A very wise step by the Admin. Discuss.
    It could help to save rest of the Forum from abusive language and Fatwa Baazi.

    Religion and Faith is to achieve a sacred, spiritual, pure and honorable feeling.

    Politics could involve hypocrisy, deception, lie, crime, killings and hatred.

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Jan 2010 10:47 #

  5. toamin
    member

    Haris bhai,

    Relax and think positively.

    I think it is better to have a different forum to discuss faith/religion.

    Application of Deen-e-Islam in Pakistan per Iqbal-o-Quaid vision has nothing to do with faith/religion discussion.

    So the political ideology as envisaged by Iqbal-o-Quid will remain in the main page while religion/faith would be kept here.

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Jan 2010 10:58 #

  6. change_is_close
    Member

    I think brother Haris has an assumption, i.e. the separate forum is created to remove the Islamic element from the political discussions. If the assumption is correct, then he's right to protest. Admin, can you please clarify?

    Prophet (SAW) said:

    كانت بنو إسرائيل تسوسهم الأنبياء كلما هلك نبي خلفه نبي وإنه لا نبي بعدي وستكون خلفاء فتكثر قالوا فما تأمرنا قال فوا ببيعة الأول فالأول وأعطوهم حقهم فإن الله سائلهم عما استرعاهم

    "The 'siyasah' of Banu-Israel was done by Prophets (A.S), every time a Prophet (A.S) died, another came after him, and there is not Prophet after me. There will be Khulafa’a and they will number many". They said: "What would you order us to do?" He (SAW) said: "Fulfill the Bay’ah to them one after the other, and give them their due right, surely Allah will account them for that which He entrusted them with".

    Note the word تسوسهم. Believers in Islam should never separate Islam and politics, as politics is a part of Islam. The difference is that in Islam, the meaning of 'siyasah' is 'taking care of the affairs of the people.' From numerous evidences from Quran, Hadith, and Ijmaa' Sahaba, it is obvious that accounting the rulers is an obligation upon all muslims, which again is a part of politics.

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Jan 2010 11:36 #

  7. KHAN_Sahib
    Member

    I support this wise step of creating a separate forum/Tab for religious discussions. Also this should end religious discussions / fights on Political forum.

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Jan 2010 11:42 #

  8. Anonymous

    Admin

    It is a good move on the eve of New Year. I welcome, appreciate and support the decision of pkpolitics for the introduction of new forum “Faith and Religion”. This will be helpful for exchange of views related purely on religious topics, for the members who may desire so.

    Regards.

    Posted 2 years ago on 01 Jan 2010 13:14 #

  9. dadmin
    Administrator

    Organic augmentation of Islamic history and culture is natural in a socio-political discourse. But an outright religious topic should be posted in the Faith & Religion forum.

    e.g. I recall the topic on “Ban on minarets in Switzerland” was a political topic. But Islam was bound to come into discussion. In that case everyone will expect the topic to stay in the Current Issues section.

    Posted 2 years ago on 02 Jan 2010 15:32 #

  10. toamin
    member

    Admin,

    Good idea, but what can we do to improve visibility for this area? Possible to add a column somewhere to give snapshot of this forum on main discuss page? I mean something like we have at pkp main site.

    Thx

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Jan 2010 5:04 #

  11. raheb
    Member

    EVERYTHING IS A FAITH.. Even NO faith is also a FAITH.
    Keeping Haris khan's argument, it is declaration from Admin that He/she/they DO NOT know WHAT Islam is.... It is Mullaism's thought and surprisingly few more hang upon this Mullaistic move yet they call names to mullaism, WHAT a paradox.

    I cannot understand WHY my post "Some "Haram" words".... been shifted to this forum?????????

    That concern highly the very basic problem of the country, Provincialism (small nations within a NATION) but HOW can this belong to this forum? WHO decide it and what is the criteria to judge post in such a way?

    First of ALL... A VERY POOR move to make a distingtion. You CAN NOT separate such things and I repeat,

    EVERYTHING IS A FAITH

    raheb

    Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 0:47 #

  12. raheb
    Member

    Don't admin has anything to say on my post???????????

    raheb

    Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 22:44 #

  13. zia m
    Member

    "EVERYTHING IS A FAITH.. Even NO faith is also a FAITH"

    Everything is not based on dogmas.

    Posted 2 years ago on 18 Jan 2010 1:16 #

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