shamwariz
Member
While watching Hamid Mir on yesterday “”Kehne mein Kiya Harj Hae””
Hamid mir indirectly implicated General Hameed Gull and General Aslam Beg whose names appeared in the News paper who were responsible for making a way for these three gentlemen.
Hamid Mir admitted that tapes were on the net even before Salman Taseer News paper daily Times published and even one his friend phoned him from USA about this tape
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
The tape drama was organized by an intelligence agency after I wrote an article against a serving general of the Pakistan Army, General Nadeem Ejaz, who was involved in the assassination of Benazir Bhutto – Hamid Mir’s letter to The Washington Times
shamwariz
Member
Hamid mir has already confessed to all the contents in the tape in his own article published in NEWS on 2nd May..
siddiqi73
Member
I'm certain that a conspiracy to falsely implicate Hamid Mir was hatched in the Presidency.
Shamwariz bhai kay tou mazay aagaye .
Hamid Mir ne Shamwariz ki murghi churai hay zaror .
shamwariz
Member
@@ Hamid Mir absolved PPP and Faisal Abadi himself in the interview last nite and said PPP has nothing to do with the tape .. he said in the program that he talked to Faisal Raza Abadi himself and cleared the situation that PPP is not all involved..
Hate PPP club must again be licking the wounds…
But I still say
Hamid mir has already confessed to all the contents in the tape in his own article published in NEWS on 2nd May..
http://thenews.com.pk/print3.asp?id=28590
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
Osama seeks FIR against Hamid Mir, Osman Punjabi
26 May 2010
Daily Times Monitor
LAHORE: Osama Khalid, son of Khalid Khawaja, on Tuesday submitted an application in the Shalimar Police Station for registration of an FIR against TV talk show host Hamid Mir and suspected terrorist Osman Punjabi for the murder of his father, a private TV channel reported.
Khalid Khawaja, a former Inter-Services Intelligence official, was murdered by a relatively less-known Asian Tigers militant group on April 23.
Osama alleged that the talk show host had instigated the terrorists to murder his father. He said the application was based on the audiotape of Mir’s conversation with a member of the Taliban, and he was ready to prove in court that the audio clip was original.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=20105\26\story_26-5-2010_pg1_7
@shamwariz
"@@ Hamid Mir absolved PPP and Faisal Abadi himself in the interview last nite and said PPP has nothing to do with the tape .. he said in the program that he talked to Faisal Raza Abadi himself and cleared the situation that PPP is not all involved.."
If Hamid Mir said that he is a bigger fool than I thought 'cause of course Faisal Abadi and telling the truth do not mix. Next thing you know Hamid Mir will be telling us Zardari is an angel (because Faisal Abadi told him so); there are no swill cases (because babar Awan told him so); Hazrat Omer had no immunity but Zardari does (because Fauzi Wahab told him so); ther is no loadshedding (because Raja Rental told him so); Baitullah killed BB (because Rehman malik told hims so; PPP rstored judiciary (because Latif Khosa told him so); Surrey Palace was inherited by Zardari (because Zardari told him so)
@Shamwariz
"Hamid mir indirectly implicated General Hameed Gull and General Aslam Beg"
BTW: Your basic statement is false. The names of hamid Gul and Aslam Beg were mentioned from the very beginning so this is NOT news...And Hamid Mir never "implicated" them -- you wild imagination is taking flight again...
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
nota,
--Hazrat Omer had no immunity but Zardari does --
Isn't it a fact ????
BTW is it true that Hazrat Omar appeared in court 9 times as claimed by Ansar Abbasi ?
@truthisbitter
"Isn't it a fact ????"
No! Immunity not applicable says Zardari appointed former AG
And the constitutional experts agree
shamwariz
Member
Lets stick to the Topic and let brother Nota stick to zatdari..
@@Nota
Osama Khalid son of Khalid Khawaja belongs to Zardari presidency
Osama Khalid, son of Khalid Khawaja, on Tuesday submitted an application in the Shalimar Police Station for registration of an FIR against TV talk show host Hamid Mir and suspected terrorist Osman Punjabi for the murder of his father, a private TV channel reported
@Sham
"Hamid Mir and suspected terrorist Osman Punjabi for the murder of his father"
So even according to Osama Khawaja, General Hameed Gul and General Aslam Beg have nothing to do with the affair. There goes your premise for starting this thread :-P
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
nota,
What about following clause of Constitution of Pakistan ???
"248. Protection to President, Governor, Minister, etc.
(1) The President, a Governor, the Prime Minister, a Federal Minister, a Minister of State, the Chief Minister and a Provincial Minister shall not he answerable to any court for the exercise of powers and performance of functions of their respective offices or for any act done or purported to be done in the exercise of those powers and performance of those functions:
Provided that nothing in this clause shall be construed as restricting the right of any person to bring appropriate proceedings against the Federation or a Province.
(2) No criminal proceedings whatsoever shall be instituted or continued against the President or a Governor in any court during his term of office.
(3) No process for the arrest or imprisonment of the President or a Governor shall issue from any court during his term of office.
(4) No civil proceedings in which relief is claimed against the President or a Governor shall be instituted during his term of office in respect of anything done by or not done by him in his personal capacity whether before or after he enters upon his office unless, at least sixty days before the proceedings are instituted, notice in writing has been delivered to him, or sent to him in the manner prescribed by law, stating the nature of the proceedings, the cause of action, the name, description and place of residence of the party by whom the proceedings are to be instituted and the relief which the party claims. "
http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/constitution/part12.ch4.html
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
nota,
"On the other hand, two respected legal minds, Justice (R) Tariq Mehmood and Iqbal Haider are of the view that the president enjoys immunity"
@Shamwariz ,
pakra Hamid Mir gaya hay ;aur Ghussa aa raha hay aap ko.
he he he
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
Live with Talat – 20 May 2010 MAY 20, 2010 . in Live with Talat Naseem Zehra (Anchor), Zafar Abbas (Residen Editor Dawn), Kashif abbassi (Anchor) and Insar abbasi (Analyst) in Today’s episode of Live with Talat with Talat Hussain – http://pkpolitics.com/2010/05/20/live-with-talat-20-may-2010/
Look what Ansaar Abbasi is talking/ prediciting/ warning about Hamid ..I think deep down inside they all know that it is indeed Hamid’s voice since a person like him who takes great pride in having secret info. and contacts of various persons could very well do it!!!
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
Nazir Naji’s message to Hamid Mir (in his column in Jang, 18 May 2010):
حامدمیر صاحب کو ایک شعر سنانا چاہتا ہوں۔
دیکھا جو تیر کھا کے کمیں گاہ کی طرف
اپنے ہی دوستوں سے ملاقات ہو گئی
میری تو ہو چکی۔ شاید ان کی بھی ہو جائے۔
Talat Hussain kay program mein Hamid Mir ko bhi bulana chahiye tha ;tub tou sach jhoot ka pata lagta .
one sided program se nateeja nikalna bewaqufi hay.
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
Why we forget that Nazir Naji and Ahmed Noorani Tapes were also made available on internet. Who tapped the conversation???? Hamid Mir and many other leading anchors in several Pakistani Private TV Channels [who are also leading correspondents in Newspapers] are ASSETS and when assets don’t follow the line then such leaks are also used. Hamid Mir is a known time server. Many of us have now forgotten that it was Hamid Mir who filed a lead story [and story was false] in Daily Dawn [Hamid Mir wasn't even a Contract Employee of Dawn] after 911 that ” OBL has more than 30 Nukes [as if Nukes are .22 Caliber Pistols and can easily be carried around when half of the leading Military around the world were looking after for OBL. Above all Hamid is an expert in quick somersaults: Read the contents of this story when Hamid Mir and Col Imam were exchanging allegation GEO TV: Hamid Mir’s Anti Pakistan Reporting.
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/11/geo-tv-hamid-mirs-anti-pakistan.html
shamwariz
Member
Yar wat I am saying is
as per Osama ...Hamid Mir and suspected terrorist Osman Punjabi for the murder of his father..
but as per Hamid mir people who facilitated Khaled Khuaja to go in that earea are responsible. And as per the tape of Khlid Kwaja it was Hamid Gull and Aslam Beg.
Don’t follow Moderator Beenai Blindlessly
Please get the facts listen to Hamid Mir (I am sure you have not) then comment..
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
اسلام آباد: وزیرستان میں قتل کئے گئے آئی ایس آئی کے سابق افسر خالد خواجہ کے بیٹے اسامہ خالد نے الزام عائد کیا ہے کہ انہیں بھی ایشین ٹائیگرز نامی تنظیم کی جانب سے قتل کی دھمکی ملی ہے ۔
اے آر وائی نیوز سے گفتگو کرتے ہوئے انہوں نے کہا کہ انہیں یہ دھمکی ایک غیرملکی نیوز ایجنسی کے ایک رپورٹر زریعے دی گئی ہے۔ صحافی نے ان سے رابطہ کیا اور کہا کہ ایشین ٹائیگرز نامی ایک تنظیم کی جانب سے اسے ایک ای میل موصول ہوئی ہے، جس میں ان کے لیئے یہ پیغام ہے کہ اگر حامد میر کے خلاف کوئی کارروائی کی گئی تو ان کا وہی حال ہو گا جو ان کے والد خالد خواجہ کا ہوا ہے۔
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
the appearance of an allegedly doctored recording of famous journalist Hamid Mir speaking to an alleged Punjabi Taliban commander. Yet no one in our superior judiciary seems to have noticed, being much preoccupied.
….my friend Hamid Mir. He is a journalist of note who has endeared himself to many in the country. He is accused of saying very ugly things about the now-murdered Khalid Khawaja as well as for an already much persecuted minority, the Ahmadis. Mir insists the recording is a forgery, made by piecing together scraps of various conversations into one whole using new technology. May one crave the Supreme Court’s indulgence once more? Only it has the power to order an independent and high-powered judicial commission to get experts in the field of speech patterns and doctoring conversations so that this most serious matter is cleared.
As to what was said on the recording, let me condemn with all the strength at my command the part about Ahmadis being worse than kafirs. In any case, who is or is not a kafir is a matter best left to the Almighty to judge.
No respite
By Kamran Shafi
Tuesday, 25 May, 2010
Dawn.com
siddiqi73
Member
@truthisbitter,
Are talking about the same Iqbal Haider who had this to say a few months ago.
siddiqi73
Member
Since you have quoted Iqbal Haider who has disavowed PPP, you might wanna read this as well:
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
siddiqi73,
Please go through the thread again then you will come to know why I posted that particular excerpt !!!
siddiqi73
Member
So, a Pipliya will forever remain two faced. Was Iqbal Haider on the money in January or in December, 2009?
@truthisbitter
"Why we forget that Nazir Naji and Ahmed Noorani Tapes were also made available on internet."
Oh, what a brilliant mind that Aamer Mughal guy you have to lean on for support! :-P
Did both of you forget the tapes were released by Ahmed Noorani himself? Oh the mystery...the intrigue... :-P
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
Who tapped the conversation????
Isn't it illegal ???
Yesterday's 'kehney main kiya harj hai'....!
http://pkpolitics.com/2010/05/25/kehnay-main-kya-harj-hay-25-may-2010/
Anwer Kamal
Member
Geo Mafia is now biggest mafia of Pakistan.
Wahid Doyum
Member
Ahmed Noorani recording was also illegal by the law, as the other party did not know the call was being recorded. Both parties must agree to recording.
shamwariz
Member
These journalists think themselves as Aasmani Khudai Makhlooq.. Mens from heavens who should not abide by any rule of Law.
They tape others phones as goon Ahmed Noorani did for Nazir Naji
As Ahmed Noorani's chief Thug Ansaar Abbasi did for justice Bilal
All above was done in the service of nation
And now a man is killed murdered and if the aggrieved SON himself accuses Hamid Mir its all cries.
But now in the Hamid Mir Tape Saga is illegal violates personal law…
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
Pro-PPP Blog invites Hamid Mir for discussion on his involvement in Khalid Khawaja's murder !
Nobody But Hamid Mir is getting a sympathetic popularity boost out of this whole issue ...
on the other hand Govt is getting its hand even dirtier .
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
ٹی وی میزبان کے خلاف مقدمے کی درخواست
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/05/100526_hamid_mir_fir_as.shtml
he he he
Hamid Mir wrestling with Zardari mafia .
who will be the winner ???/
guess ,guess ,guess.
truthisbitter
LalBichooRedscorp
ٹی وی میزبان کے خلاف مقدمے کی درخواست
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/05/100526_hamid_mir_fir_as.shtml
shamwariz
Member
@@ beeani
That’s why I call you a biased suicide bomber of this site. Instead of encaging a healthy factual debate you twist all the things to PPP what so ever may be the topic..
Guys have mercy the father is killed of this guy ..Is Osma from PPP..
Hamisd mir himself is absolving PPP and focusing on the persons who sent Khuwaja to tribal area means Aslam Bed and Hamid Gull.
Look at the contradiction.
I wont refer the tape but the Article …Hamid Mir in his article said Khlid Khuwaja was responsible for Lal Mosque murder . But Maulana Andul Aziz of Lal Mosque himself lead the Namaz-e-Janaza of Khalid KLhwja .. mind it Son, Mother, and brother of Maulana Abdul Aziz were killed in Lal Mosque operation.
ufff.Shamwariz Bhai ,
aapka ghussa hamesha mods pe kion girta hay ?
kabhi tou apki party bhi ghalat ho sakti hay?
yah wohh farishtaon pe mushtamil party hay???
shamwariz
Member
@choosy bhai
Topic kiya hae Khud Hamid Mir Kiya kehta hae aur is Moderator to dekho Kiya likh raha hae..
Aur phir kal Admin se apni fehm-o-Frasat ke lambi chitthi likhwa laya hae.. Yar ham koi darte hein ... Hakoomat hae hamari yar..
siddiqi73
Member
Khalid Khawaja was an intelligence operative who was responsible for nurturing the most crude, retrogressive and extremist elements who are now on the verge of making Pakistan extinct.
If anything, he got wacked by the same elements he conceived, trained and sent out on different missions in Afghanistan and Kashmir. Somewhere down the line these terrorists trained their guns on Pakistan and killed thousands of Khalid Khawaja's own countrymen. Khalid Khawaja got what he deserved; he is certainly not the only one responsible for the mess that we have been for the last so many years but he was a key cog once in the ISI machine. He was fond of living by the gun and alas died by a gun as well.
@Shamwariz Bhai jaan ,
Admin se Beenai ne tou chitti likhawa lee .
aap bhi likhawa lo agar yeh itna aasan hota hay tou .
aur aapka apni party pe gahror sahi nahin.
yeh aik dobti party hay .
aur becharay Hamid Mir ko badnaam karkay dobna chahti hay .
jis ne JANG group se takkar li ,wohh mara hi mara .
MQM se poch lo .
its licking his wounds ...given by media .
MQM ne Talak Hussain aur GEO se takkar le thi .
magar nakaam ho agye zaleel bhi hoye .
jotay paray ulta unko hi .
shamwariz
Member
o tell you the Truth ..I personally like Hamid Mir, Talat, Hussain, Abbasi, Moiz Pizada, Though they Grill PPP harshly sumtimes extrs harsh but On merit and they listen and air the other view as well not like goons Shahid Massod, Kamran Khan, Ansaar Abbasi etc atc
But now the topic is different in this tape saga he has loop holes because he wrote in his own article what he said in tape.
I also know Murder of Khalid Khawaja was because conflict of interest in side the Taliban. And we all know Hamid Mir though a good journalist has a particular tilt towards Taliban and hate for Khlid Khwaja read his article..
This tape is a hoax. Mark my words; Salman Ta’asir has initiated something that is looking as and is in the process of proving by itself another blunder of unperceived proportions by the ZPP.
There is no conflict of interest inside the Taliban....because this statement is technically incorrect. If you mean Taliban who are fighting illegal occupation of Afghanistan their country are ideologically different than any later edition of Taliban as a recently created faction to dilute and malign achievements by the freedom fighters. They have nothing to do with TTP, Punjabi Taliban, and Tigers. All are creations to diverge/divert public attention from on ground realities and thus developing a favourable public mind-set. A futile attempt as public is getting well informed/aware of who plays with their future.
Illegal occupation of Afghanistan started as an all out War on Afghanistan but is ending as a series of lost battles. Mirrored in history and same the way Vietcong fought and WON. Result we all know. Acknowledged defeat by the self claimed super power that thinks they rule the world!
Claiming to be the sole super power since they occupied Afghanistan; have they ever been in control of Afghanistan let alone the whole world!
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