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NGO's afraid to get wet?

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urazzaq12
Member

Has any NGO (foreign funded ones, I might add) done anything for the flood victims?

Posted 1 year ago on 22 Aug 2010 16:07 #
gv
Member

I know of quite a few which are providing,

water, household items, food, etc

why do you ask?

Posted 1 year ago on 22 Aug 2010 18:05 #
haider3
member

Because we've heard quite the contrary from reliable sources about the roughly 3000 foreign-funded NGOs infesting Pakistan. gv, could you give us some details as to who, where and when, please.

Posted 1 year ago on 22 Aug 2010 18:31 #
nota
Member

@MG
If you have been watching tv and seen the coverage of the flood relief efforts, I am sure you did not see a single of those 3000 NGO represented. That in itself is a clear indication of the comparative scale of their efforts on the ground. But I am sure they are doing a great job collecting funds and laughing all the way to the bank ;-)

Posted 1 year ago on 22 Aug 2010 18:47 #
gv
Member

@mg

pray tell what are your reliable sources???

p.s ive explained my views on the ngo sector in pakistan before - i dont deny there is a lot of wastage in the intl aid sector - however this does not mean that all of them are useless

oxfam and the DEC are very active in flood relief...as is the nrsp and its affiliated ngo's... mostly all ngo's receive some form of foreign funding... including edhi etc.. .no one is too high and mighty to say no to donations... lets please be objective and realistic instead of doing the usual useless zionist conspiracy theorising...

Posted 1 year ago on 22 Aug 2010 18:47 #
nota
Member

@mg
I've expressed my views on the ngo sector in Pakistan before as well. And that does mean all of them are not just useless, in fact extremely carcinogenic.

BTW My sources are impeccable and no "useless zionist conspiracy theorizing..." as the beneficiaries of such largess would try and make you believe ;-)

Posted 1 year ago on 22 Aug 2010 18:59 #
gv
Member

@nota

from your link above:

"Some NGO’s – like Oxfam, Human Rights Watch, Medecins Sans Frontieres, or Amnesty – genuinely contribute to enhancing welfare, to the mitigation of hunger, the furtherance of human and civil rights, or the curbing of disease. "

just a slight bit contradictory - those impeccable sources of yours no???

Posted 1 year ago on 22 Aug 2010 19:11 #
nota
Member

@gv
No, no contradiction. You missed the part in bold:

If the source is confusing, the message is usually clear: “democratization” strives for civil rights and elections, but it also must include an open door to foreign capital, labor contracts, resource extraction, and military training. These networks also define “civil society” to include rock concerts and street mobs, but not government-provided maternal health clinics, child care, or senior services.

A good analogy would be they are like giving away cigarettes. Feels wonderful smoking one -- calms ones nerves, satisfies a 'need' -- but ultimate, long-term aim is to kill ;-)

Posted 1 year ago on 22 Aug 2010 19:19 #
gv
Member

@nota

i agree that many aid organisations have ulterior motives at worse or at best dont understand how to really help the people they set out to help

however as your article above says some of them are actually contributing in a positive genuine manner...

Posted 1 year ago on 22 Aug 2010 19:22 #
haider3
member

Thanks both of you. Just to answer the one question directed at me. gv: TV anchors and, for instance, the gifted journalist Orya. We'll add nota's link given above as well.

This is not about west versus east. It's about doing enough to save lives which may be lost otherwise. So perhaps we needn't quarrel, but just accept the fact that the foreign NGOs are richer than us, but the local Muslim charity organisations always get a better job done.

Posted 1 year ago on 22 Aug 2010 19:34 #
Beenai
Moderator

yes , i guess so called NGOs are afraid of going there .
they better off in their safe heavens .

talking about flood effectees in Avari Towers and Sheraton Iftar dinners .

Posted 1 year ago on 23 Aug 2010 6:44 #
wantinsaf
Member

These foreign funded NGO are just promoting westernization in Pakistan.That's it.That's the only purpose

Posted 1 year ago on 23 Aug 2010 7:24 #
rashidsaleem
Member

Whether its earthquake, after math of Talban episode or the floods, I believe that CSO’s have been working with the public to help them and provide relief in all scenarios. Just because we all love to comment from the vicinity of our living rooms or bed rooms on a laptop, doesn’t mean no one is at the location. I personally know a INGO which has recruited more than 3000 foreign doctors and paramedics and they have been deployed in flood affected areas.

Posted 1 year ago on 23 Aug 2010 8:38 #
nota
Member

@rashidsaleem
"I personally know a INGO which has recruited more than 3000 foreign doctors and paramedics and they have been deployed in flood affected areas."

Hogwash. I say this is total fabrication. Prove it (At least name the NGO and let's find out if even they claim such outlandish numbers). Also be honest and inform us of your link to the NGO in question.

Posted 1 year ago on 23 Aug 2010 9:44 #
kulla
Member

http://www.shelterpakistan.org or http://www.pakresponse.info/
Gives a detailed account of who is doing what.

I hope you all know that there are a bunch of Islamic organizations which are international in nature doing a great job in Pakistan. Just because they come from the west do not mean they are bad. Islamic Relief, Helping Hands/Muslim Hands, Muslim Aid, Muslim Welfare trust etc are some of them.

Its easy to blame and give out sliprey slope generalizations but lets not weight everyone on the same scale per se.

Posted 1 year ago on 23 Aug 2010 20:21 #
ammarisb
Member

@ Nota! Please feel free to call all the relief work being done hogwash! UNHCR has reached the most far flung areas of this disaster and other agencies such as Oxfam, Save the children are very much working on the ground. It is due to the role of these NGO’s the relief operations have materialized, without foreign assistance Pakistan could not have coped with a disaster of this magnitude. So rather than pointing fingers if you think you can do much good to society please step up.

Posted 1 year ago on 24 Aug 2010 8:46 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

Most of the NGOs are joined by fashionable class women who seek the opportunities of developing fame and social contacts. Out of so many NGOs, there are just few who are true in their causes. Some are dangerously corrupt and work on foreign agendas.

Posted 1 year ago on 25 Aug 2010 11:03 #