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Noam Chomsky: My Reaction to Osama bin Laden’s Death

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  1. uovervinnelig
    Member

    Nice article by Naom Chomsky

    http://www.guernicamag.com/blog/2652/noam_chomsky_my_reaction_to_os/

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 May 2011 22:50 #
  2. Just_one
    Member

    Good objections raised by Chomsky, not like the bone-heads trying to deny the incident altogether. American conduct during this incident has been objectionable to the extreme.

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 May 2011 23:45 #
  3. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    A trial of Osama could reveal a lot of shameful acts of the Americans. He was simply killed to avoid exposing any facts about the wrongdoings of the Americans.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 4:24 #

  4. Typical new Chomsky fans :)

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 15:59 #
  5. BTW: It didn't happen. Chomsky is cunningly selling the "official" story that Bin Laden died on May 2. Bin laden has been dead a LLLLOONNNGGGG time :-P

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 16:07 #
  6. scandinavian
    Member

    @Nota

    That's also my belief. Why the haste to dump him in the ocean and why no pictures since the Yankees have published pictures earlier (f.ex. the bodies of Saddams Sons)? And why no access to the "family members" (wives) of OBL?

    The OBL death story is one the weirdest I have heard.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 16:17 #
  7. @nota
    Come on brother. Why you are so insistent to show such insensitivity towards the May 2 fans (^as you say).

    We can do without this work of art.
    Let us be vocal using decent, proper language enough for us to be understood properly.

    Us means all active members on this forum.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 16:19 #
  8. scandinavian
    Member

    @Nota

    I am in line with S..E. Mirza. You have very good arguments, so please use them instead of the teasing line. I am sure Just_One will understand one day, inshallah.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 16:21 #
  9. Just_one
    Member

    @Scandinivian,

    Chomsky is spot on. Why do we have to revel in conspiracy theories to project our false courage?

    The freaks who forward these conspiracy theories are b*ll-less who rely on cooked up stories to argue their point. They can't think straight and rely on facts alone.

    I am better away from this "truth", which consists of lies and cooked up stories, from the fringe elements of western crackpots. Those who swallow them in the Musim world are the bigger freaks - and it could well be teh result of conspiracy against the Muslim in propogagting these kind of

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 16:26 #
  10. Yes Nota Bhai,

    What Scandinavian has said I do agree fully with him. Brothers feel what should be good to uplift standard of discussion on Pkpdiscuss.

    Just_one is also one of us therefore God willing he will understand (He does understands and I appreciate his intellect - sure an intellectual on pkpdiscuss forum).

    Together we will (InshaAllah) turn this pkpdiscuss into a Political Thinktank of Pakistan Politics...

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 16:27 #
  11. Just_one
    Member

    @Scandinavian,

    Chomsky is spot on.

    I am better without this "understanding" which consists of cooked up stories and swallowing hook line and sinker anything coming from western crackpots conspiracy theorists. You need to open your eyes. I am not b@ll-less, I can face the facts and don't have rely on tall tales.

    To our resident sucker-of-conspiracies, I have little to say. I'll let the moderator sort him out. But it is safe to say that Chomsky has slapped the boneheads on the face with his succinct and useful analysis.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 16:32 #
  12. scandinavian
    Member

    @Just_One

    This is not about being a coward or bravery. This is about the truth behind the wars. You cannot run from the fact that western democracies need to cook up stories whenever they have a need to wage a unjust war. That's a fact, otherwise they will not have the backing from their population, and no backing from their population means disaster.

    Now I think you also should return to decent language :)

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 16:34 #
  13. @SEMirza
    Please look above...who started with "bone-heads"? Who brought in mothers and fathers (in response i just put up his little pic)? Who is using the language like "freaks" "b*ll-less".."crackpots...bigger freaks" etc..
    And the only issue you see is that pretty little picture? :-P

    "I appreciate his intellect"
    Well, must certainly have been some adventure (finding 'intellect' ins ***-***'s posts -- i certainly can't see any. You must write a book about it ;-)

    @***-***
    "They can't think straight and rely on facts alone"
    Interesting...suddenly talking "facts" is a crime? Hmmmm...

    At least you admit I am talking facts :)

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 16:48 #
  14. Just_one
    Member

    @Scandinavian.

    Every state peruses its interests by hook and crook. It is true for America as well. Pretexts are cooked up, but the claims for 9/11 conspiracy theories are too far fetched. As for OBL, it is a bit less far fetched, but I really think that Obama administration won't discredit itself by cooking up a false tale on OBL. OBL matters in the US. It's not like WMDs. Obama won't play with the families of the victims of 9/11 just like that.

    And our intelligence agencies wouldn't easily incur the wrath of the world if anything was suspicious.

    This is my take, anyone disagreeing needs to respect my opinion, like for example, you do. But some people are removed from civilization.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 16:55 #
  15. "anyone disagreeing needs to respect my opinion"

    I completely DISAGREE and don't need to respect some fantasy, for civilization hasn't corrupted me yet. Who says being removed from (western) civilization doesn't have it's advantages ;-)

    Now when you talk sense, I certainly have no issue supporting it. But don't expect me to buy bvllsh!t; it is not a question of "opinion" but "facts"...

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 May 2011 17:01 #
  16. SufiSoul
    Member

    It makes us feeling bad that americans are behind every event.
    How Osama was able to live beside PMA???for many years.
    People having no practical experiences in way of ALLAH SWT can never understand, how such protection is possible from the skies.
    Indeed jihad field is fulled with events with almost single Mujahid.
    But people relying over bookish knowledge always cannot understand this and will turn it towards Pak army support..
    I dont know exactly if some one evr have written a book from the field while fighting with evil..
    So i can reffer you towards pak army war against indians and true stories from paky jawans and officers.
    With the first step out of your home in the way of ALLAH SWT(jihad etc) you entered into a FANTACY WORLD(divine protected and driven) and evry thing happen to you will be abnormal and nevr experienced before..
    A professional writer like nota should have go through the practical events from this FANTACY WORLD if he finds such a BOOK of any MUJAHID than he will be able to analyse in the divine light..
    If not many of you will be expecting americans to kick each and everything without taking ALLAH SWT powers in your analyses...
    BUT again it will be difficult/complex to separate between the events kicking by the americans and Divine Force...
    (In this area nota get stuck with and cannot find the way forward and takes americans as REAL POWER behind everything,whatever)......

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 May 2011 0:03 #

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