Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan At His Best !

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Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan At His Best !

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rocketrevolt
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Just kindaf rare and superb performance by Nusrat fateh.

Enjoy!

:)

ps.Some funny moves there.

Posted 2 years ago on 13 Jul 2009 23:14 #
chechen
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Rocketrevolt, How can you expect to raise the conscious of Ummah with these clapping Qawwals that keep us sleeping and lead to proliferation of bhangi brigades.

I remember the famous quote of Aurangzeb when the court qawwals were dismissed and they led a funeral procession under the balcony where the emperor walked in the morning. The qawwals expected to draw attention of Aurangzeb hoping for a reversal to the ban. Upon enquiring about the funeral, Aurangzeb was told it is music and they are burying it. The reply from Aurangzeb was " Bury it so deep that it may never rise again". The musicians and qawwals wer utterly dissapointed.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 3:20 #
rocketrevolt
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I feel you brother and i completely understand what you are saying but actually I am not trying to promote it.Its already promoted in our culture.And I happen to grow up in that culture.I am not an angel...or very pious kindaf person.

so may God forgive his soul and mine too.

:)

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 3:31 #
sasherwani
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hehe.. the whole communication between the two fundoos assumes that its a fact that music is haraam ;)

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 5:31 #
latentry
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chechan

So you talking about that Aurangzeb who killed his own brothers and father. What a crap he was.

Nusrat Fateh Ali a great singer May God rest his soul in peace

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 11:38 #
chechen
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latentry,

Your desrciption of Aurangzeb matches exactly with what Hindus are saying today in India about that great Muslim who wrote Quran with his own hands and lived a poor man's life selling caps. They elevate Akbar who was a murtad.

That is what the British and Hindu historians say. They have grudge against Auranzeb for obvious reasons. Just like West today has grudge against Taliban but cozy to traitors like Zardari and Karzai. One of his Brothers was drunkard like Nusrat Fateh Ali and other was groomed by Hindus to oppose Aurangzeb. Do you know the circumstances after the death of Nusrat. How his death was a warning to others. Forgot about that event but his dead body was in shambles and ibrat for others. Go figure.

The incident about Aurangzeb's father is concocted lie. Read Fataw-i-Alamgiri and not British history.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 13:42 #
ucsher
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@rocketrevolt
[[["I feel you brother and i completely understand what you are saying but actually I am not trying to promote it.Its already promoted in our culture.And I happen to grow up in that culture.I am not an angel...or very pious kindaf person.

so may God forgive his soul and mine too.]]]

hahaha

That's where these "Religious Munafiqs" fail to explain the contrast found between their nice and cute religious rhetoric & worldly acts!!!

So rocketrevolt, is is that hard to let go of music?

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 15:22 #
sasherwani
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ucsher, you just hit him where it probably hurts em the most ;)

Chechen, how easily you change history.. Aurangzeb killed his brothers and fathers is a fact which you just cant gulp down I guess. Now go burn the US or Pakistani flag shoo..

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 17:53 #
demitri_indian
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pakistan has such radical people on forums.chechen is supporting taliban.this guy is a ascetic.u better don use any technology,don see movie nd listen to music.this guy is a hypocrite.moderator plz ban them.they are not civilized enough to discuss anything.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:02 #
sasherwani
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Demitri,

I dont think anyone should be banned unless they come down to using abusive language. I am unsure if any of them has usen abusive language so far. I do remember one of them wrote something as a reply to my post but Beenai deleted it. I wonder if that dude (rocketsomething) was actually abusing me.
Anyway, personal advice, dont abuse them back or else there will be no difference between you and them.

:)

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:07 #
rocketrevolt
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First of all quit writing with dual ID ucsher&sasherwani thats a typical Bhangi attitude you need I guess banging again.Nope,its you whose a real munafiq!
I am not chechen but I can understand him,where it shows munafaqat?
While hating religion you still are muslim;thats what is munafaqat.

:)

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:10 #
sasherwani
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Actually Demitri, Latentry, Beenai and sasherwani are all the same ;)

When you cant beat em, blame of being schizopreniac.. hehe.. now go burn the Pakistani or US flag.. shooo

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:12 #
demitri_indian
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i am not going to abuse but i felt these people do all hogwash.they are all ****.how can someone talk against an artists that too nusrat fateh ali khan.this guy was a legend nd these members are living in 700A.D..

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:12 #
sasherwani
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Demitri,

These people detest anything that they find even slightly similar to Western Culture. They believe Fateh Ali Khan was the devil because he promoted the message of peace and love via music (which these fundoos consider haraam).

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:16 #
rocketrevolt
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No its more like "All great Bhangis talk the same crap"But you and ucsher have the same writing and only IP address can confirm it.
But

ALLAH KNOWS THE BEST

Now suck on this one.

:)

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:18 #
sasherwani
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Allah does know the best but you seem to be as sure as Allah when you declared me as UCSHER. So your God now?

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:21 #
demitri_indian
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i was watching khuda ke liye nd i found like few of them type of people posting here.i was little curious to to know .so what percent of people in pakistan have similar line of thinkin?people are very religious on this forum nd every thread has some religious information as my threads has more of indian nationalism in it:).i sometimes feel that people should keep their religious norms to oneself.its u who is close to god nd if you feel u really are,then dont be an altruist.there are books nd every one have them and the way to reach salvation is known to all of us.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:27 #
ucsher
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o prawa rocket confuse mati huwo , mai ashar ee haiga waan ;)...

was busy so couldn't come to the forum ;)

btw, why do you presume so much?

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:27 #
rocketrevolt
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What a non sense.I am not God.Bhangi hates Allah and to **** him off God remembrance must be performed.

ALLAH KNOWS BEST!

:)

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:27 #
sasherwani
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(This post strictly for Demitri, it wont be comprehended by the fundoos so they can skip this post)

Demitri,

I am a Pakistani born in Saudi Arabia. I lived there till I was about 12. I then moved to the United States and lived in California for about 10 years. After I graduated and started my professional career in Barcelona Spain. In the last 6 years I have lived in Larnaca (Cyprus), Rome (Italy), Paris (France) and more recently in Dubai (UAE). I am not pretending to be Ibn Battuta here. I just want you to know that I have been to a lot of places with very different cultures. Pakistanis too in all these different countries were very different in their political and religious orientations.
You just said that you find people on this forum "very religious". I disagree. Primarily because your defination of being "very religious" is wrong. People on this forum are just very "vocal" about their version of Islam. Being very religious has got nothing to do with abusing people on a forum, declaring music haraam or encouraging people to terrorize their neighborhoods.
Pakistanis in general are God-fearing souls. They love their prophet and they are willing to give their lives for their religion. What the fundoos are trying to do now is brainwash these god-fearing souls into believing that spreading terror within Pakistan is "Jihad" because Pakistan is involved in an illegal war and it should be punished.
Fortunely, most of the Pakistanis (both inside and outside Pakistan) are not ready to buy this defination of Islam. This forum DOES NOT portray a typical Pakistani's beliefs and ideoligies.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:42 #
chechen
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Demitri the clown from BJP run India is talking about fundus when his own counry is under grip of terror let loose by BJP hoodlums. How many states are run by BJP? What about the mass murderer Modi that was directly responsible for killing, raping and burning of thousands of Muslims in Gujarat. Even independant enquiries found him guilty. He is still free man and Demitri has nerve to talk about Taliban.

Your mentor Israel is currently run by the fundus too. Common Demitri, just don't start the fundus mantra when your country is under spell of BJP thugs from Kashmir to Karnataka.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:46 #
demitri_indian
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yes bjp ministers teach us religious lessons daily:-)bangalore accomodate about 1lak foreign nationals:-)to work in more than 1000 r&d labs.talk about me nd u.forget the nation.by the way congress run india.nd bjp are not taliban.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 18:54 #
rocketrevolt
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"They love their prophet and they are willing to give their lives for their religion"

Do you even realize what laughing stock you are making urself now?You are ranting here and there.They offcourse love their prophet and would be willing to fight for it but when Bhangis in Pakistan would start it,they shouldnt care? cause your masters said so?.You are a brainwashed as per your growth and are simply confused.Bhangis must be confronted be they inside pakistan or out.

Enough said.

:)

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 19:09 #
chechen
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Keep those R&D labs to yourself. Your masters- US, NATO who run all the R&D's of the world are getting good beating in Afghanistan that will eventually lead to collapse of capitalism just as Taliban put last nail in coffin of communism. It is called asymmetrical warfare. No need R&D.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 19:11 #
sasherwani
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That post wasn't for the less fortunate ones. See message above the post.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 19:11 #
skyfacts
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demitry-indian,

You are loosing ur attitude at the forum.I know you are having bhand as religion so every where NACH GAANA is your culture to earn money but muslims not munafiq dont like such things.
Muslims have clear cut instructions about hurmat of music and all its shapes.....But the muslims of pakistan having indian culture have genetic problem of indian pagan culture.This genetic pagan culture is in action as,filmi dunya,innogorating new recording studieos and things,basant,dewali,mujras,celebrity night etc.....We are trying much to get rid of this genetic pagan culture but still as you may observe that we have some genetic patients to treat..........

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 19:24 #
chechen
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Jazakallah Brother Skyfact, You said it right. I will add one more thing. In addition to pagan culture from East they have pagan culture permeating from the West too. The so called pagan pop culture.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 19:29 #
misalligned
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This is something about which even scholars are divided. please educate me if there is a clear cut hukam about the hurmat of music.

I feel its hypocracy to produce the same voices from mouth and to call it halal and if the very same voices are generated by some instruments you call it haram. The listener is not even able to identify if the voices are generated by mouth or by instruments.

adultry and nudity is clear cut haram in islam and the music which takes you to this is clear cut haram but why i dont see even a single HUKAM against music in general, please educate me.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 22:20 #
chechen
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The voices with instruments are associated with satan. You cannot say that for voices emanating from mouth are same. These are the references from Quran and Hadith:

http://islam-qa.com/en/ref/5000/music

or click on any of these sub-links in this link

http://islam-qa.com/en/search2/music/ExactPhrase/t%2Cq%2Ca/+

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 22:46 #
misalligned
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Thanks a lot brother for providing me these useful links. I have one more question in this regard. You know, all the history books are filled with this. how common was music at the time of prophet Muhammad PBUH? then why we dont see a clear wording in Quran about that??????

The most authetic book of hadith is also quiet about that, only one hadith in Bukhari whose authenticity is not clear.

i want to draw you attention toward alcohal. That was also common like music in arabs. So the first verse revealed about it was in surab baqra, i dont remember that by heart but the meaning was that there are some advantages for you in liquor but there are also disadvantages and disadvantages are more than the advantages

Haz. Umar (RA) heard this verse and said, no this is not clear and i pray to Allah to give us the clear cut Hukam so we could abondon that. Then there is a verse in surah Nisa (i guess if i am not wrong, please ck the reference yourself). Again Haz. umar (RA) said that we are not sure about the hurmat of liquor so i pray that the clear cut hukam should be revealed and till that time alcohal was common and lastly then in surah maida the clear cut hukam arrived and it was only then when muslim stopped consuming alcohal.

Then why we dont see such a thing about music, i have seen a refernce of surah luqman but i sincerely find that the order in surah baqra about consuming liquor was more clear than this and still Haz Umar (RA) said its not clear we could not declaire it haram and even Prophet Muhammad PBUH did not ordered any thing.

haram and halal are from Allah not from some one , if Allah wanted this to declaire haram then why a clear cut Hukam is missing??? this was so common in arabs, even more than drinking alcohal, how come Quran at one place is even teaching them how to speak is silent about music.

Bukhari the most authetic book is providing only one clear cut hadith despite of the fact how common it was? i am really confuse about this matter even i am not a great admirer of music and dont even find lot of time to hear music. But still i think this is not a strict matter.

Please also tell me if prophet Muhammad PBUH ever granted some punishment to some one on listening music or no one was doing this at that time. Show me even a single punishment which was given because of music in the time of Prophet PBUH

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 23:21 #
chechen
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During the time of Prophet SAS they listened and they obeyed. There were no one that opposed the verdicts of Quran and saying of Prophet SAS. I am no scholar but with my limited knowledge there was no such punishment given to anyone. Probably they never even listened to music so there was no question of punishment. Also remember punishment were applied after all other avenues failed and guilt was absolutely proven. Even the punishment of stoning a woman to death was applied once during Prophet SAS life time and it was a heart breaking event.

A woman committed adultery and came to Prophet SAS admitting her guilt and asking for stoning. Prophet SAS turned her away . She cam again and Prophet SAS turned her away. She came third time and insisted on the punichment. Then she was stoned to death and Prophet SAS prayed her funeral prayer. Some Companions RA asked why are you praying for a adulterer? Prophet SAS replied you will not understand her repentance. She wanted to cleanse her sins in this world for preparation to hereafter. You know how hard it is to provide proof for adultery. They have to have 4 witnesses of the actual act.

Posted 2 years ago on 14 Jul 2009 23:37 #
rocketrevolt
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Anyway bro...on a side note with bhangis I think my attitude is the right one.Otherwise they gonna make everything smell.

:)

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Jul 2009 5:44 #
peterpan773
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Chchaen wrote

"........Also remember punishment were applied after all other avenues failed and guilt was absolutely proven.......
"

Sahi Muslim,Book 037, Number 6676:

Anas reported that a person was charged with fornication with the slave girl of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to 'Ali: Go and strike his neck. 'Ali came to him and he found him in a well making his body cool. 'Ali said to him: Come out, and as he took hold of his hand and brought him out, he found that his sexual organ had been cut. Hadrat 'Ali refrained from striking his neck. He came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah's Messenger, he does not even have the sexual organ with him.

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Jul 2009 6:53 #
chechen
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http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php

Nowhere to be seen. Concocted lie or fabricated Hadith

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Jul 2009 10:23 #
chechen
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Sorry, Saw the Hadith. It is authentic.

Now trying to interpret the Hadith, the key word is "charged". What I feel is that he was "charged" with the act and every one knows what it means. There was evidence ( that requires 4 witnesses observing the act) and the verdict was given. Later he may have cut his own organ. Allahu Alam. Need to investigate more about the interpretaion. As far as I know there were negligible cases of meting out punishment during the life time of Rasoolallah SAS.

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Jul 2009 10:37 #
rocketrevolt
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peterpan its for you....:)

"I dont think you trust in my self righteous...soul(truer? dual? side?) inside"

"Father","Father","Father"

"Why have ...you forsaken me....

in your eyes forsaken me
in your heart forsaken me
in your thoughts forsaken me ....

IIII...I cry when angel deserves to die
in my self-righteous soul inside
"

Enjoy!

:)

ps.this portion starts after 2 minutes of video....That should be enough for your bible thumping....lol...its your sufi kalam....lmao

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Jul 2009 21:17 #
misalligned
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chechen

my dear i agree with you that companions of prophet Muhammad PBUH were like we heard and we obey but not every one was like this. many still were consuming alcohal, Prophet Muhammad PBUH gave punishment to those, although no HAAD was issued on this but punishment was given.
thieves were brought in front of him, people reverted from islam, munafiqeen were there, we have seen lot of punishments in that time so how come all of them stopped listening music. no punishment was given, not even a single proof. Not even in the time of rightly guided caliphs, not even a single punishment. then how come it is haram.

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Jul 2009 22:40 #
chechen
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Brother misalligned,

Those days of prophethood and immediate aftermath of his death was dedicated to the establishment of first Islamic state. The resources were fully stretched and Jihad was raging on all fronts. Sahaba Karaam RA were immersed 24X7 in establishment of Deen of Allah to save mankind from eternal abode of hell. As they say, they were fighting like lions during the day against the enemies trying to crush the new Islamic State and weeping like babies and praying during the night for fear of Allah SBT. Where in the world they would have got time for "entertainment"? The struggle for supremacy of Allah's words to mankind and constant Jihad to fulfill that goal kept them busy 24X7. We are indebted to those pioneers for our belief of Kalima La Ilaha Ilallah Mohammad ur Rasoolallah.

That nascent Ummah of ProphetMohammad SAS burst out of deserts of Arabia and within a span of less than 100 years had reached the frontiers of France in West after sweeping through Iberian peninsula ie Spain and borders of China and India on East. That was no ordinary feat and required immense energy and belief. That kind of zeal made them masters of the world. There was no time for music and hoopla for any of the Ummati and hence the Blessings of Allah SBT poured like rain on them. There is still hope to reverse the present state of Ummah if we emulate those stalwarts and return to Quran and Sunnah.

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Jul 2009 23:26 #