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mulla1
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yaar, is forum par, hum mein se , kon kon Pakistan se log on hota hai ?

mujhe shaq hai keh hum jo bahir ke mulkoon mein, ac, nokar chakar, dollar, pound or deegar lataif e hayat ke chuskiyan letay hain or asaaman o zameen ke kalabay millatay hain...hum mein se kon hai jo "first hand experiance" kar raha hai aaj kaal, atta crises, sugar crime, yes crime...or laqanooniyat, or zardari-izm....sahi andaza naheen laga saktay!

koi hona chaiye jo humain akhbarat se hat kar, geo sheo se hat kar zameenai haqaiq se mutala karay!

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:11 #
msohail83
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Khurram Zaman

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:14 #
mulla1
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kya khuram zaman double id naheen hai kisi or ki ?

or yeh to aik set islamic agenday par kam kar rahay hain....

or agar hain local to in ko ground reality batani chaiye!

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:16 #
hariskhan
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Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

I'm in Lahore

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:16 #
msohail83
Member

wo Islamabad se ata hai online

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:16 #
mulla1
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haris khan:

what is the condition of sugar prices now ? as compared to a year ago ? do you have a comparative list ? do you do shopping for your family ?

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:19 #
zjshami
Member

Mullah has a positive point.
Looking at the other angle, the information technology has gone so smart that a person living in Pakistan is more aware about rest of the World.
Some of the Discussion Forums and Media also help to provide enough information to understand a situation.
The problem with the foreigners is where they have to do a lot of struggle and home work for watching American, British and Pakistani channels to conceive reality.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:28 #
hariskhan
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Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Sugar is at Rs. 38 on utility stores. Don't know the rest

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:32 #
mulla1
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I say this cause I call pakistan daily almost daily, the day I do not call , they call me!

and always there is some ground reality which is ignored by the media....

for example I inquired about the sugar crime, yes i call it sugar crime and not crises, and I found out that the main architect of this entire issue this time is Ameen Faheem sab and Wayne sab!

now no one on the media, ever said that...

see I usually ask a question, is maslay ka offical zimadar kon hai, yani what ministry or minster of government handles such and such crises....

and that is always shocking so I want this input to come from other people as well. Sometimes when I open my mouth some air conditioned, well fed and never seen a loadsheding mohallay-types living in the west say, oh yaar yeh khabar credible naheen hai!

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:32 #
mulla1
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38 ruppes per kilo...actually islamabad says its 42 rupees kilo..

the jump in prices in ramadhan is considerably high ..

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:34 #
msohail83
Member

lol @ last paragrah

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:34 #
mulla1
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haa na yaar!

humaray haan sach ka riwaaj hi khatam ho gaya hai! woh bhi ghurbat ka sach!

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:35 #
msohail83
Member

Yar its nothing but a scam.

artificial shortage is created to import from outside and then sold at higher 'international' rates. Importing gives them a reason to justify the hike in price. Simple

Pakistan Buys 75,000 Tons of Sugar From Al-Khaleej!!!!!

Dubai se cheeni aa rahi hai. Agay aap samajhdar h0.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601091&sid=anESU5BBj5Ec

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:39 #
mulla1
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yeh zulum ki aik kism hai!

yani gahreeb ko lootna aik ijtimai zulum hai keh naheen ?

khalleej mein sugar kahan se aye ? un ko paas to khud imported hoti hai....

aqal mari howi hai awaam ki bhi!

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:42 #
hariskhan
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Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

The sugar thing is a classic case of 'zakheera-andozi'.

No segment of our society is doing anything about it. :@

'zakheera-andoz' people should be HANGED in OPEN PUBLIC, to make examples out of them, for the entire nation and the rest of the world to see

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:42 #
msohail83
Member

O bhai ye hoarders politicians hain unko kon hang karay ga?

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:44 #
NNL
member

Noorani Mullay ke Yahoodi doost jo IK ko ready kar rahe hain
IK aur Ameriki Raw agent MQM wala yeh sab kuch karainge

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 16:47 #
zjshami
Member

HANGED in OPEN PUBLIC???????
Is it according to the provisions of the Pakistan Penal Code?
We should abstain to recommend a punishment what is Constitutionally and Legally out of sync and proportion.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 17:17 #
mulla1
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shami sab!

kiya zulum humari kitaboon main hai ?

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 17:33 #
LetsDoIt
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The problem is not in the law, its in the implementation. Even if you will make a law to hang those Zakheera andooz in public, police will take their clerks/munshis in its custody and hang these people.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 17:48 #
tamza2k
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AoA,

Mulla Sahib althu i am on protest..........but still having eyes @ a topic opened by you is compelling me to share some personal experiences. Price for sugar & atta differs in different areas, since as i belong to cities more than one simultaneously so let me give a fair idea. In Punjab Atta is more cheap than selling price in Peshawar & Swat. Where as Sugar price in utility stores is Rs:38 per KG but in open market the prices varies as per the market standard. No atta & Cheni is in shortage its an artifical shortage created by few persons, previously the reason for shortage in Peshawar (NWFP) was illegal transfer of wheat to Afganistan but now the problem in overcome upto some extent. Flour quality in Peshawar is as cheap as u can think. My father had worked as Food Sect to Food Deptt NWFP & he himslef is the witness of how the flour mill owners allow rotten wheat to blend with a small quantity of fresh Wheat. A flour Sag of 20 KG we are buying here in Peshawar on 650 PKR & some time if in shortage then bit expensive then that. can u imagine the sitution in Utility Stores?..............sure noops........well we all living out of pak are quite happy with the malls as things are easy to pick up from there within mintues but in Pak..........Letme give u an idea.............Early in the morning outside utilty stores there is standing a Govt.Vehicle ( Usually SHEZORE)supplying Sasta ATTA, GHEE, CHENI, & so many edible (exculding Perishable) itmes with a displaying a price list. Fortunately/unfortunately people cant excess inside the Store/s arena. Now what happens...........before arrving a supply vehicle there is a big crowd of AWAM outside the building & aur jab garee ke amad hotee hai to aksar log dhaky kha kar gir jatay hain khuch mar bhee kah laitay hain lakin hoshyar wahee jo khamsho say agay nikal jaiy. Within an hour sab khalas ..........kia howa? jo laray, giray phir aglay din ka intizar...........sad na? so many times while on my way back to home i saw so many scences like this.

Mulla if u look at to my previous discussion i never rely on news papers & media type things ground realties are quite depressing. i request so many times to all forum memebers to discuss real issues & lets look for a way out.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 18:21 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@zjshami: If you are unaware of Islam, why blame others for your misfortune?

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 18:22 #
hariskhan
member

Walaikum-Assalam-Warahmat-ULLAH,

@tamza2k: What are the real issues?

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 18:26 #
tamza2k
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Haris Sahhib quite upsetting.................u dont know the real issues? Plz do not take my words to your heart but look around your community u ll see how many innocent go to their bed without having bread. how many get justice? how many get employment? there are numerous HOW's happning in our daily life. Are these not real issue?

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 18:36 #
hariskhan
member

No need to feel discouraged. I have no ill intentions.

I'm merely putting up a question. I have discussed many critical issues. Maybe I missed something

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 18:41 #
mulla1
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tamza2k!

jazakAllah this is exactly what I wanted to hear ...

what are you protesting about ? can I ask ?

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 18:44 #
tamza2k
Members

yup.........actually i was protesting against the few forum members & also against the moderators........every topic after few threads turns to abuses & personal war so i request (in ur absence) to all memebers to discuss produtive topis & do not hijack or destory someone's positive discussion.

wo kahtya hain na........Khuda nay aj tak us qoam ke halat nahi badli, na ap jisko khayal apni halat badalnya ka...

with apology from all but we are ignorant qoam balkay dormant i shud use.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 18:49 #
mulla1
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yes we are very backward and resistant to "learning from mistakes"....

nnl starts most of the bad commenting...and there are some paid memebers on this forum to keep repeating non stop on agenda, which is basically bad religion non stop...

thats why fights happen cause we have tested these elements like nnl and bsobaid and now haris khan types who we know that they are not going to allow anyone to talk in length if one has something positive to point out, the moment they fear that me or someone else is about to win some argument and shift someones thought process, they interject ...

our moderators are doing their job but it helps these zalim people who distrack a thread with such phadda!

Mulla~!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 18:56 #
zjshami
Member

@ hariskhan,

You wrote:
"@zjshami: If you are unaware of Islam, why blame others for your misfortune? "

Read both of my postings at this thread and let me know where I mentioned the word Islam?
This is an intellectual Forum where one should not be loose at his/her talk.
Do you want to tell me that HANG IN THE OPEN PUBLIC is the only remedy of every CRIME?
I remember you also recommended the same punishment for some other crimes.

# 1
"Mullah has a positive point.
Looking at the other angle, the information technology has gone so smart that a person living in Pakistan is more aware about rest of the World.
Some of the Discussion Forums and Media also help to provide enough information to understand a situation.
The problem with the foreigners is where they have to do a lot of struggle and home work for watching American, British and Pakistani channels to conceive reality.

# 2
HANGED in OPEN PUBLIC???????
Is it according to the provisions of the Pakistan Penal Code?
We should abstain to recommend a punishment what is Constitutionally and Legally out of sync and proportion.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 18:58 #
mulla1
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is ka illaj yeh hai keh production qouta increase kiya jaye!

cheeni mills nationailse hoon or private badmashoon ke hathoon se nikkaal li jayen!

or amin faheem ki moonchain shave kar di jayen!

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 18:59 #
tamza2k
Members

A Wise man will never stuck in his glorious past instead he will struggle hard to make his present better & rectify his previous mistakes but those who enjoys to live in the past will never notice a person leaving him behind in this race of betterment. A state can't be utopian, a person can't be perfect, a word can't be complete. But what we need to do is to respect everyone's opinion/views & if conflict arises between thoughts then it should be qualified with arguments or logical discussion. I hope u got what i wanted to say.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 19:09 #
mulla1
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tamza2k...

mashallah very nice statement and you will find a friend in me..honest and steadfast!

now are you located in Peshawar and have you yourself heard rumors or seen any "black-water" type stuff ?

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 19:17 #
linkwheel
Member

I Live In Zardari's Republic Of PAKISTAN.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 19:21 #
tamza2k
Members

presently i am locating in peshawar ........didnt go out of home in Ramdhan so cant precisely participate as didnt discuss the topic within my cirlce yet. My bro just arrived from Sweden, he has strong links in Afganistan so he better can give me an idea. Letme discuss with him in his leisure. Waisay bhee pesh again is not safe for roaming openly for girls.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 19:25 #
mulla1
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yes stay away from hashtnagri :)

and keep posting !

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 19:32 #
tamza2k
Members

hmm.....nice to hear Hastnagri.......a historical city of Pesh Located on Sher Shah Suri Road....... :)

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 19:42 #
mulla1
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there is a kabab wala across the street, it used to be there in the 90's....by the way i used to stay in usmania hostel in islamia college as some of my cousins studied there

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 19:45 #
tamza2k
Members

there are two Isamia Colleges .............the one own by Govt & affiliated with Pesh Uni & the other one is a Private Ownership. If not wrong u r talking about the second one bcoz there is no hotel inside the campus as the 1st one is located inside campus of Pesh Uni. regarding kabab wala ab to yahan gali gali kabab wala milay ga as there are no restrications on building upon Dherd eent ke Masjid :(

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 19:53 #
mulla1
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the great islamia college whose picture was on the 100 ruppe bill if I remember correctly...

hostel, not hotel, Usmania is a boys hostels name too and there is a usmania hotel...even in thsoe days, aik din zuhur ke waqat humari ankh khuli to do banday bahir dekhay, poocha haan ji, se khidmat kaum ? bolay usmania hotel ? i laughed and said, the other side of the town not this this is hostel!

common confusion...

there is a botanical garden in islamia college which is worth a visit, it houses rare plants from all over the world!

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 19:57 #
tamza2k
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@ Mulla

is ka illaj yeh hai keh production qouta increase kiya jaye!

cheeni mills nationailse hoon or private badmashoon ke hathoon se nikkaal li jayen!

or amin faheem ki moonchain shave kar di jayen!

I just have missed these above few lones.

Elaj is not increasing production Quota............i mentioned sevral times in my discussions on the forum that we are not running short of atta, cheni, bilji etc etc...... the problem is corruption is running in our body like soul. We prefer personal welfare over general welfare. Masla is not solely of Sugar ( in my 26 years of life i am hearing for 3rd time about Cheeni Crisis) but there also frequent shortage or ATTA & many more consumeables. If u remember Bhottu in 70s took a step toward nationalization............Masla agar yahen per khatam hota to theek hai but there are still some big steel industries who shut down their operation after Bhutoo's Nationalization program. private Ownership calls for competetion & we all know that Pak is not a welfeare state which can afford Industries & Mills. Ok suppose it happens to natioanlization then what ultimately will appear? Pahlay to remove the previus employees & recruit fresh ones ( on ministers choice). Jama hogaya a tabqa willing not to work for masses welfear. Then u can imagine what the final output of a company/mill will be?

Rah gaya Amin Faheem to he is not the single beyond.......there are so many opponents to him in the parliment isee liay bichara screen par agaya, wo jo nahi atay unka ihtisab kon kary ga? with whom everyone is familiar.

Do u remember kay Bahadur Shah Zafar kay time may hee zawal kuin aya tha? Jahan awam sust aur ghafil ho wahan zawal lazmi hota hai. Our consitution has given us every right to accounatable any person so what for we are waiting? CJ nay kahan mairy sath zulam howa bewaqoof balkay farig loog nikal ayy, Benazair aur Nawaz nay pukara to tamshay kay liay nikal ay, apany haq kay liay to kabhi awaz uthan hee nahi sehka. The only need is Inqilab in mental level.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 20:17 #
tamza2k
Members

@ Mulla

is ka illaj yeh hai keh production qouta increase kiya jaye!

cheeni mills nationailse hoon or private badmashoon ke hathoon se nikkaal li jayen!

or amin faheem ki moonchain shave kar di jayen!

I just have missed these above few lones.

Elaj is not increasing production Quota............i mentioned sevral times in my discussions on the forum that we are not running short of atta, cheni, bilji etc etc...... the problem is corruption is running in our body like soul. We prefer personal welfare over general welfare. Masla is not solely of Sugar ( in my 26 years of life i am hearing for 3rd time about Cheeni Crisis) but there is frequent shortage or ATTA & many more consumeables. If u remember Bhottu in 70s took a step toward nationalization............Masla agar yahen per khatam hota to theek hai but there are still some big steel industries who shut down their operation after Bhutoo's Nationalization program. private Ownership calls for competetion & we all know that Pak is not a welfeare state which can afford Industries & Mills. Ok suppose it happens to natioanlization then what ultimately will appear? Pahlay to remove the previus employees & recruit fresh ones ( on ministers choice). Jama hogaya a tabqa willing not to work for masses welfear. Then u can imagine what the final output of a company/mill will be?

Rah gaya Amin Faheem to he is not the single beyond.......there are so many opponents to him in the parliment isee liay bichara screen par agaya, wo jo nahi atay unka ihtisab kon kary ga? with whom everyone is familiar.

Do u remember kay Bahadur Shah Zafar kay time may hee zawal kuin aya tha? Jahan awam sust aur ghafil ho wahan zawal lazmi hota hai. Our consitution has given us every right to accounatable any person so what for we are waiting? CJ nay kahan mairy sath zulam howa bewaqoof balkay farig loog nikal ayy, Benazair aur Nawaz nay pukara to tamshay kay liay nikal ay, apany haq kay liay to kabhi awaz uthan hee nahi sehka. The only need is Inqilab in mental level.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 20:20 #
tamza2k
Members

yup........misunderstood hostel................Islamia College is a famous historical college inaugurated by Sardar Abdul Qayum Khan. Awesome place to stay & relax.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 20:23 #
mulla1
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yes, i agree that on the grass roots level those who are effected have yet to wake up!

but i was suggesting a "short term" solution.

production qouta increase karnay se aik cheez ka supply factor barh jata hai jis se us ki demand kam hoti hai.....yeh aik trick hai.....is par loog munafah ke chakar se baaz a jatay hain...try kar ke dekhna chaiye!

baki shaoor wali baat, us ke liye drones jo a rahay hain!

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 20:25 #
tamza2k
Members

being as an average minded economist production increase leads to further problems, as we know that what so ever is happening in the market is the outcome of price hiking & storage by few big monsters. Supply zaida honay doesnt effect demand but it can adversly affects the prices.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 20:30 #
mulla1
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yes yes yes, thats the key!

now you got it, the price is the issue! thats where the profit margin is and thats what if we hurt, of a commoditiy, the hoarders reject it as a sound investment! its a trick i said!

:)

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 20:34 #
tamza2k
Members

so u stroke the issue? good...... bugamboo khush howa

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 20:37 #
tamza2k
Members

bahi mairy ye sab itna asan nahi jitna we are spending time on its typing....those who are enjoying the economic gains will create further hurdles in the way.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 20:41 #
mulla1
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khala jan!

fikar makawa, apna kaam awareness campagin hai....shoor kartay raho aik din koi to sunay ga!

:)

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 20:42 #
tamza2k
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hmmm.............yahan sunay wala koee nahi not even on this forum ...........why not to enjoy life in Amercia, Europe, Gulf.........wah kia life hai lush lush.......... ;). BTW i am working upon & i have once share my idea on Google group to start a campaing of awareness.

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 20:46 #
mulla1
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insaan andar se mutamin ho to pindi mein bhi khush or andar se tabah haal ho to whitehouse mein bhi pareshan!

is wakat har admi pareshan hai....kuch kam kuch ziyada...
global financial crises ka aik chain effect hai jo har taraf mahsoos kiya ja raha hai khas tour par "mazay lenay walaon" ki zindagi mein...

america mein bhi khoof ka alam hai, loog vacations bhi dar dar kar kartay hain...peechay se job hi na chali jaye!

maskeen ki bad dua se bachna cahiye!

Mulla!

Posted 2 years ago on 02 Sep 2009 20:49 #