Only my dead body can be ousted from presidency: Zardari

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Only my dead body can be ousted from presidency: Zardari

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d0ct0r
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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s president Asif Ali Zardari on Sunday pledged to fight back following the annulment of a graft amnesty by the supreme court.

The beleaguered president vowed “to fight back” while chairing a meeting of the PPP’s central executive committee to review the fallout of the apex court’s decision to strike down the National Reconciliation Ordinance.

“They would only lift my dead body from the presidency,” he told party leaders during the meeting, while referring to his opponents. The PPP “reposed full confidence” in Zardari’s leadership and “vowed to rally around him”, a presidential spokesman said.

The party also decided that federal ministers facing graft charges following the scrapping of the NRO by the apex court on Wednesday would defend themselves in court instead of resigning.

Zardari said the PPP “will not be blackmailed into asking its ministers to resign merely on the basis of accusations against them”.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Only-my-dead-body-can-be-ousted-from-prez-chair-Zardari/articleshow/5359988.cms

Posted 2 years ago on 20 Dec 2009 22:21 #
expakistani
Member

if thats his wish then my pray... ya Allah Zardari ko jaldi se utha le...

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 1:15 #
shikra
Blocked

Mr. Zardari has got one advantage where he has become a victim of Pro-Taliban and Anti-Democracy lobby.
PPP is being judged as a symbol of Anti-Terrorism and custodian of Democracy.
Most of the leaders, political parties and media persons who are opposing and criticizing the existing Government have already lost their credibility.
The publically discarded elements are making PPP more popular as a reaction.
Opposition from persons like Gen. Hameed Gul, Pervez Elahi, Imran Khan is actually a qualification for a leader and party to make it more acceptable.
More than 90% people in Pakistan hate Taliban and thier terrorism.
PPP is the only rescue for them.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 2:10 #
expakistani
Member

@shikra
Kia baat hey Jilay .... how about we do a sample servery here here on pkpolitics.....

simple question: Do you trust PPP or Asif Zardari?

if you get 90% vote i will accept you publicly as my political mentor ... if i win....
you are free to take PK 747 to Dubai or Paris or london just like typical PPP leadership.

you wrote:
Mr. Zardari has got one advantage where he has become a victim of Pro-Taliban and Anti-Democracy lobby.

PPP is being judged as a symbol of Anti-Terrorism and custodian of Democracy.

bhai pkpolitics is for serious talk by occasionally we appropriate jokes too ... so thanks

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 4:13 #
sok
Member

@shikra

Mate you got a few things wrong here. PPP is not the only rescue for Pakistan only but the whole world. The whole world looks forward to follow the policies of PPP and Zardari.

"The publically discarded elements are making PPP more popular as a reaction.". How can someone make a party like PPP more powerful. PPP is the MOST popular party in Pakistan and the most successful one.

Jiey Bhutto, Joey Zardari, Jiey Bilawal, Jiey.., Jiey...

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 4:31 #
toamin
member

zardari's days are numbered due to his continuation on zardarism.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 4:35 #
Beenai
Moderator

@Shikra ,
unfortunately ,things are other way around .
not only Hameed Gul and Imran are opposing PPP but the whole nation....

go to the streets of any city ,ask ppl ,whether they love PPP or not ? they will start screaming and complaining about the crisis of electricity ,Gas ,Petrol ,Flour and Sugar .

go to the businessmen community of Pakistan ,they will start telling you ,how bad repo of Zardari as Mr.10% ,has effected the foreign investment ,how bad law and order has effected the small traders ....

go to the students and their parents ,they would be telling you how their education has became a joke ,in Zardari era ,due to law and order related off days .

go to the housewives and they will show you ,how their home economics has badly effected by poor economic policies of the Zardari Govt at Makro level?

go to Balochitan ,they are not happy with this Govt .

go to NWFP ,they have zero sympathise for the present Govt as thousands of their innocent men,women and kids has been killed in the war on terror .

they have became IDPs ...and Govt eaten up their funds too .

only Bilwal house staff and PPP close members who are getting enough share in looted money are happy with the present Govt .

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 4:38 #
netengr
blocked

@shikra

I agree with you ,The strong opposition PPP is facing is in the media not in public ,and in the Media the main opposition of PPP is the one who are not elected members or do not belong to any political party .

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 5:25 #
toamin
member

One needs to live with Pakistani public to see public sentiment... Go to Pakistani public (get visa first) and see what they are saying :)

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 5:28 #
netengr
blocked

Pakistani public votes in the elections and those who are trying to be the "loyal " for Pakistan and "Islam " in the media do not get votes ,Yes We have to keep on eye and have checks on government ,But currently Non elected member opposing PPP and actually Pro Taliban and again trying to make new IJI .

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 5:35 #
toamin
member

if you are not living in Pakistan then you might want to see the surveys and polls conducted recently that tell people sentiments.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 5:51 #
netengr
blocked

Wait for another election people would show their sentiment in the ballot box

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 5:53 #
urazzaq12
Member

'Awaam' is not opposing this government??

There is awaam outside the presidency also, whose sentiments people should keep in mind, before forming a opinion.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 5:54 #
toamin
member

@ballot box -Why ballot box comes after secret negotiations and settlements?

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 6:09 #
netengr
blocked

This is democracy ,Wait for next elections .

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 6:10 #
toamin
member

lolz, it is coloniocracy :)

for nato engrez

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 6:15 #
semirza
Moderator

AZ is clinging on to false promises to him by his jiyalas. This is a similar lot who got Bhutto into trouble many a times. AZ has to go not as a hero or as a martyr but as a convicted criminal back to jail.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 6:25 #
sasherwani
Members

Ameen!!

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 11:24 #
javedsheikh
Members

@ My dear shikra,
What made you change the position? Did you quit Imran Khan's TI?
I, partially agree to your analysis.

@ My dear netengr,
I know the intensity of Anti-Mulla feelings and the hatred against Taliban and religious fanaticism is rapidly growing in Pakistan.
A dominant section of voters, including literates and non-literates, who want to live and enjoy the modern normal and balanced way of life, have no better choice than the PPP.
The judicial murder of Bhutto, orchestrated and supported by right winged religious leaders and murder of BB, has helped to make the PPP as a cult of devotees.

The vote bank of Bhutto, in spite of stupidities of Zardari, would always go for the PPP as habitual obedience.

MQM, ANP and Nawaz League might also cash the Anti-Mulla vote but PPP would stay as a vital pillar of Pakistan's Political Arena.
In 1977 the bang-wagon mentality reflected at the Media indicated as whole of Pakistan had gone against the PPP, but, even Zia-ul-Haq had to admit on TV that PPP was the only majority Party.

A leader more charismatic than Bhutto has yet to come to eclipse the image of Bhuttoism.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 12:04 #
zia m
Member

In the larger interest of the country PPP should be allowed to finish their term,with or without Zardari.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 12:41 #
semirza
Moderator

This slogan from Zardari indicates how desperate he is to equate himself with Z.A Bhutto.

Z.A.Bhutto perished on the gallows 31 years ago. One of the most extraordinary and also the most controversial personalities of Pakistan s politics. Liaquat Ali Khan’s assassination in October 1951 was the first fatal blow to a nascent democracy, and Bhutto’s execution a prelude to a long era of dictatorships.

Liaquat was in the second line of leadership after the Quaid. He was a stalwart and an old guard of the freedom movement while Bhutto was the vanguard of the new generation of politicians.

Pakistan has not produced a crop of leadership in the post independence period that could extricate the country out of the morass into which it has sunk and is still sinking by their mistaken policies and wicked intentions. What this country needs more than anything else is a leader of outstanding caliber imbued with the highest sense of patriotism, a genuine concern for the well being of its population, an iron will to overcome the most dogged resistance of the vested interests who have been living merrily at its expense as businessmen, bureaucrats, bankers, industrialists, speculators, land and license grabbers, black marketers, currency racketeers and a whole lot of parasites that have eaten into its vitals. A class of the new rich in addition to the old which has joined its ranks is engaged in the amassment of wealth without fear of punishment. There is no realization that a harvest of prosperity they accumulated has impoverished the country to the edge of bankruptcy.
Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto – Politics of Charisma, p200-201

This is what Zardari has been busy doing. Amassing wealth without fear of punishment and a total disregard towards national affairs.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 12:44 #
shimatoree
Member

From The Toronto SUN-( Eric Margolis)-

In 2008, Washington sought to rescue Musharraf's foundering dictatorship by convincing the popular but exiled Benazir Bhutto to front as democratic window-dressing for continued military rule. Her price: Amnesty for a long list of corruption charges against her and her husband.

The U.S. and Britain quietly arranged the amnesty for the Bhuttos and thousands of their indicted supporters (and other political figures).

But just before Benazir's assassination, she told me jealous associates of Musharraf were gunning for her.

Asif Zardari then inherited Benazir's People's Party, Pakistan's largest. He became president, thanks to strong U.S. political and financial support.

In return, Zardari supported the U.S. war in Afghanistan and allowed the Pentagon to keep using Pakistan's bases and military personnel. Washington promised at least $8 billion.

That sleazy deal has now come unstuck as Pakistan's newest, rather improbable democratic hero, Supreme Court Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, enforced the law by reinstating the corruption charges.

Zardari has presidential immunity against criminal charges. But his chief lieutenants face prosecution, notably regime strongman, Interior Minister Rehman Malik, and Defence Minister Ahmed Mukhtar. Both are key supporters and facilitators of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan, America's use of Pakistani bases and Pakistan's war against its Pashtun tribesmen.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 12:56 #
toamin
member

A very good summary of what actually happened.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 13:02 #
netengr
blocked

@ Javed Sahab

The vote bank of PPP is being limited to Sind only ,Lets see how PPP will play in Punjab in next elections ,But Yes people would vote for Secular parties ,People would chose "corrupt " PPP ,"bhatta khor" MQM and "Jageer daar " PML but will not vote of religious "Loyal pakistani Islami " religious groups and this is just because people do not want to chose Molvies . Pakistanis are religios and love Islam ,they respect Imama sahab ,Aalim ,Mufti and shaiks but do not chose them as their political leaders.Religious parties should "revisit " their policies ,Unfortunately "Sawat Sharia government " is become the example as they supported this kind of government I do not think people would vote for them now .

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 14:14 #
toamin
member

An excerpt out of good summary above:

Zardari has presidential immunity against criminal charges. But his chief lieutenants face prosecution, notably regime strongman, Interior Minister Rehman Malik, and Defence Minister Ahmed Mukhtar.

Both are key supporters and facilitators of U.S. military operations in Afghanistan, America's use of Pakistani bases and Pakistan's war against its Pashtun tribesmen.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 14:33 #
zingaro
Member

good post by shimatoree ... Zardari & Co. is in race to limit PPP within Sindh boundaries and I hope they will succeed in it. Whether elections are held mid term or after five years .. one thing is sure that PPP is going on back benches for an unlimited period ... This is not any conspiracy but the return of deeds of its chair holders and a silent revolution which is emerging every day in the general public due to easy access of information.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 14:34 #
SufiSoul
Member

Bilawal needs to be son of double shaheed to lead PPP in future and to overcome voices relating to his non-experience........

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 14:59 #
semirza
Moderator

No, this time this 'damned clan' of Bhutto’s is being spared by the army and others. No more martyrs from them. Not any more!
The 'mood' of masses is not in favor of Political Heirs.

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 17:58 #
Fahim23
Member

How can some of you speak on behalf of "Whole Nation"? I personally consider it unfair to even think that "Whole" nation agrees with my views ,,, nevertheless making claims on public forum such is this that "Whole" nation hates PPP/Zardari.

The ultimate test of popularity of any political party is Elections - Not a talk show, Not the newspaper/Columns, and not even Electronic forums. Just recently about 2 months ago we have had Elections in our country (Gilgit/Baltistan) and despite all the controversies and allegations, and everything PPP has emerged victorious!

If one accepts the argument that PPP is hitting the rock bottom of unpopularity then this could also mean that the rest who are in competition with PPP are not acceptable to Pakistani public even when PPP is facing its worst ever crisis! Something for every anti-PPP folk out here to ponder upon!

I as a PPP supporter am hopeful that in the next elections if PPP continued and expedite:

its policy of Reconcilliation with all political forces of Pakistan,
its policy of War against terrorism,
its policy on Balochistan,
Inter-provincial harmony, and
improved its governance and economic Policy

then will again be chosen by the people of Pakistan in the coming elections.

If you want to get to know PPP supporters on web please visit this site. http://****.org/****/

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 22:36 #
Anwer Kamal
Member

He said because they knew how to die

Posted 2 years ago on 21 Dec 2009 23:10 #
shikra
Blocked

@ JS,
Sir,
I am not against Imran Khan fully.
He should come up as a leader not as a follower. A leader is to guide and teach his followers about future developments in poltics.
The anti-american phase is justan emotional and temporary cycle and not real. Imran Khan would be the first to sign and economic and defence Pact with america, if he comes into power.
His soft corner for Taliban showes his weakness.

@ Mr. Metengr,
Yes sir, I agree that at every election in Pakistan the secular, liberal and moderate will win. Religious parties have failed to create their vote bank.
Religious groups can be a part not a whole.

Posted 2 years ago on 22 Dec 2009 1:49 #