When,foreign world names Muslims and Pakistan a terrorist, entire media, nation, politicians start crying. We start counting our sufferings, sacrifices,double standard of outside world. We feel being victimized, and complain not being dealt with justice... We question every proof given to us of our double game, we don't believe 911 ever happened, We don't believe Osama was killed in Abbottabad. We tend to neglect every credible information pointing towards us?
However the moment we come to domestic issues, we forget all the standard of evidence that we demand from others, now it is sufficient that some criminal mind person carry Quran and accused somebody you hate due to your linguistic bias, we forget his credentials, list can go on and on.
I want to understand how individual Pakistani feel when being accused of terrorist as nation. Then only people can understand feeling of common urdu speaking when people from accross every corner start calling urdu speaking as terrorist may be due to some individual's acts.
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Pakistan a Terrorist country...
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sochopakistani
MemberPosted 8 months ago on 25 Sep 2011 18:36 # -
aftab arif
MemberTake it with a pinch of salt, because the people accusing us are bigger terrorists and murderers, and have more blood on there hands.
Posted 8 months ago on 25 Sep 2011 19:08 # -
scandinavian
Member@sochopakistani
Tum khud socha karo likhney se pehkey! This is a one sided BS rant. Pakistan has EVERY RIGHT to remind the yankees of the immense sacrifices we have had. We should never have supported the thankless Yankees in the war of terror against our own people. The sooner we get out of this war the better for us. If the Yankees want a fight then let it be so. We refuse to kill our own people!
AND STOP SPREADING YOUR PROPAGANDA!!!
Posted 8 months ago on 25 Sep 2011 19:29 # -
banjarbayabaan
Members1. chand dihayaan pehle japan ko dehshat gard kaha gya aur laakhoon logoon ko maar diya gya
2. Vetnaam ko dehshat gard kaha gya aur laakhoon logoon ko maar diya gya
3.Iraq ko dehshat gard kaha gya aur laakhoon logoon ko maar diya gya
4. Afghanistan ko dehshat gard kaha gya aur laakhoon logoon ko maar diya gya
5. Aaj Pakistan ko dehshat gard keh rahe hain aur phir dande ke zor par do teen channels jhoota propaganda karein ge lekin Pakistan is not like any of the above
Why don't people think about the real problem :)
Posted 8 months ago on 25 Sep 2011 19:39 # -
spruce
MemberIf America will attack on Pakistan we should react to attack on India because they have so many consulates working in Afghanistan, either we demand from India to leave the afghan or ready for attack from Pakistan.
Although 2012 is critical for Pakistan because America want India attack on Pakistan, as a result India may not join America for this proposal because they have been concerning in their economy which they may not leave from their hands.
Finally deteriorating propaganda from America, we have to show eyes to India as a result India will put pressure on USA not to take such action which may harm the economy of India.
Posted 8 months ago on 25 Sep 2011 19:50 # -
duago
MemberPakistan and America heading for a serious confrontation over Pak-Nukes
The original goal of the invasion of Afghanistan was not to drop bombs on mud-huts, or fight ghost-terrorists like Al-Qaeda, or to fight some imaginary heavily-armed Guerrilla Groups whom America needs 130,000 troops to contain. The truth is far from it, in fact that truth has been tainted to the extent that the lie has disguised itself as the truth to fool the rest of the world.
Many players are actively participating in the all-western power's attempt to destabilize Pakistan. There is every reason for this to be the objective, since all major western powers are heavily lobbied by Pro-Zionist Power Block that control a hefty chunk of the wealth that circulates in the western world. The power of the Pro-Zionist Block in the western world has been aptly demonstrated by the U.S Housing Market crash in 2008, the Sovereign Debt of Major European countries in 2011, the staggering Gold Appreciation which is currently at $1662/Troy Oz (£1016/Troy Oz), U.S Debt Ceiling fiasco (July 2011) and Credit Rating Firms sudden rise to prominence (2011).
The Pro-Zionist Block views Pakistan as the only credible threat to the existence to the State of Israel. This threat assessment seems a bit disconnected however, since Pakistan doesn't have any direct border with Israel, nor is Pakistan in the same region as Israel. So why is it, that Pakistan is viewed by the Pro-Zionist Block as the most deadly threat to Israel's existence and what is it that Israel has or would done/do to warrant any aggression from Pakistan. The answer is, nothing .... so far! Pakistan has no direct or indirect aggression toward Israel, however, there is something that Israel will do in the future which will provoke Pakistan.
It is not only Pakistan that Israel will provoke, but also the Islamic World at large.
The oldest of the Protocol's of the Elders of Zion, clearly stipulate that the Temple Mount be constructed. It also openly demarcates the area where the alleged Temple Mount used to be, before the time of Jesus the Messiah. The area in question, is one of the three most holiest sites of the Islamic World, i.e Masjid Al-Aqsa and the Dome of Rock. Israel has previously made botched attempts at somehow degrading the structural integrity of the two buildings in order to make them irreparable and that they may be either demolished or they collapse due to weak structural foundations, weakened by the Israelis themselves.
These attempts have met with strong opposition from the Islamic World and was also the flash-point of the Second Intifada.
If we assess the current geopolitical climate, trying to understand how the play runs through the regions and countries around the Holy Land. Then the first countries to be struck off the list as useless and of no threat to Israel are saudi Arabia, Jordan, as they are bought/bribed countries that are aligned to the west and hence non-confrontational toward Israel. Today you have Iraq which is under total occupation of America and its allies, and as such, it poses a Zero Threat Level to Israel.
Iran is another Minor to Zero Threat Level country to Israel, simply because the current regime there is a fake one and has personal agendas rather Israel, as its target. The Iranian Regime considers itself as the representative of the Greater Iranian Regional Power. Their objectives are to establish influence over the Arab World and the Middle Eastern Region at large. Carving out a Major Shia Block in the Middle East which would directly challenge the Sunni Majority Islamic World. This is why it funds Hezbollah in Lebanon, Syria to buffet Israel's reach, Iraq where it is increasing its presence and influence in Guerrilla Groups running and Bahrain, where an up-rising was given imputes by a Shia majority population.
Syria is too weakened by sanctions to offer any challenge to Israel in a military confrontation. For the best part of the last two decades, Syria has nothing except rusted Soviet Era MiGs that make up the bulk of its Air Force and anyone who has even the basic knowledge on military statistics in the Middle East, knows that Israel has a formidable and powerful Air Force. Boasting the largest fleet of F-16 Fighting Falcons, outside the United States, which is 362 --> F-16 A/C/B/D/I Blocks-15/30/40/50s. Other than that, Israel has a substantial fleet of true American Air Power Pedigree, the (78) F-15 Eagle, which is an Air Superiority fighter, that boasts 105-to-0 kill ratio in Air-to-Air Combat. These lethal fighter jets in Israel's air force, puts to rest, any challenge that Syria could muster.
Egypt has a bulked out, large, but useless military with ineffective fire power against Israel, as well. This is despite Egypt having a large fleet of F-16s in its Air Force, but those fighters and the rest of the fighters in Egyptian Air Force, lack any BVR (Beyond Visual Range) Air-to-Air Missiles and Long-Range Airborne Radars to lock on the enemy. Amazingly enough the corrupt, pro-western Mubarak Government had agreed to buy all these fighters (around 200+ F-16s) from America, without any BVR Missiles and Long-Range Airborne Radars. And the reason why this is so surprising, is because Egypt's Air Force, without BVR Missiles, is as helpless as a gazelle stuck between a pack of hyenas.
Looking to the north of Israel, Turkey offers a powerful military challenge to the enemy (Israel). But one needs to understand Turkey, where majority of the population there is Urban (70% Plus) and very secular. Turkey's military, though a powerful one, is totally secular and very close to Israel when it comes to military ties. This in itself renders Turkey useless at the time when Israel would orchestrate a supposed natural collapse of the Al-Aqsa/Dome Complex. Even if Turkey reacted as a nation against Israel, its military would fizzle out before the declaration of war is made against Israel. This is because the powerful elite of Turkey comprise of Masonic-Order Members, Elite-Zionist Businessmen who're in both the military, the bureaucracy and in certain parts of the civil offices.
Now, when you look at Pakistan, it the political landscape is completely different. The picture is very distorted, very dis-figured and extremely volatile. The best thing about Pakistan is also the worse thing about Pakistan. The West, the Zionists, the Masonic-Order, have tried their level best to get a grip at the helm of Pakistan's Power. They've tried it with Pakistan's Military, with Pakistan's Political Leadership, with the People of Pakistan. However, every time they've failed, be it in the shape of Musharraf, Nawaz, Benazir and Kiyani. The Zionist-Masonic Order has failed to understand the fundamentals which govern the Pakistani Mentality, and those are ....... there are none!! The Pakistani people are as divided for politicians as they are united for them, which makes them a very unstable vote bank.
But the reason for Israel being scared or threatened by Pakistan, are many and very significant. To start off,
- Pakistan is the only Islamic Nuclear Power in the world, meaning that in a times of crisis, the Islamic World, would look to for Pakistan to help. It also has developed highly accurate and precision strike weapons in the shape of Ballistic Missiles.
- Pakistan has developed the capability to build its own battle tanks, which can be a source of un-sanctionable military hardware for the Muslim countries in times of War. The MBT-2000, also known as Al-Khalid, boasts 125mm Smooth-Bore Gun, Battle Management System for Net-Centric Warfare and light weight to fight in the desert sand.
- Pakistan is now gaining the self-sufficiency to build its own fighter-jets and that makes it more dangerous, as it expands its horizons in the region as a power. The JF-17 Thunder is the first Sino-Pak fighter to have been developed, giving Pakistan full autonomy to further develop and arm its fighter, built 100% in Pakistan. Oh, and this fighter does have BVR Missiles, unlike the F-16s of Egypt.
- Pakistan has attained transfer of technology to develop its own War-Ships for its Navy, as well as Submarines, which allows it to project power at sea. The F-22P Alamgir Class Missile Frigate is also another example of the Sino-Pak Alliance cooperation. The Missile Frigate has the ability to shoot-down incoming fighter-jets and low-flying cruise missiles. Missile Frigate can also fire upto (72) Pakistani Made Babar Cruise Missiles.
- Pakistan's primary ally is the second largest economy in the world and is poised to take over from the United States as a superpower. China recognizes the strategic importance of Pakistan both geographically and politically. Where America continues to arm hindustan (india) to the teeth, China intends to do the same and more, by arming Pakistan against hindustan and thereby blunting out America's attempt to weaken China.
- There is no Political Party in Pakistan, which can claim absolute power, like the ones in Syria, Egypt, Saudi and Jordan. From the Late Liaquat Ali Khan, to Zulfiqar Bhutto, to Zia-ul-Haq, to Benazir Bhutto, to Nawaz Sharif, to Musharraf and to Zardari. All are temporary bribed and bought politicians that have come into power in Pakistan, illegally and against the will of the silent majority in Pakistan. And all have been removed from power, before they could establish their rule on a permanent basis, like Hafiz/Bashar Assad (Syria), Talal/Abdullah Hussain (Jordan), Saddam Hussain (Iraq), Saud Family (Arabia), Mubarak (Egypt) and Qaddafi (Libya).
Hence, when the Al-Aqsa/Dome-of-Rock Complex collapses due to contrived efforts by the Zionists. The tantamount up-roar in the Islamic World would reach fever pitch and would be out for Israel's blood. Of course, the supposed Arab Up-Rising resultant political powers would realize to their misfortune, how pathetically weak their country's militaries are against Israel. Iran's supposed arsenal of Ballistic Missiles would be worthless against Israel, as the ABM Systems would knock-out any incoming Iranian Missiles. The Islamic World would also get to know that Iranian Regime is an Impostor, one who only ranted against Israel and America because it wanted the Muslim World's support for a Greater Iranian sphere of influence and power.
At particular time, it would not be an open declaration of war by Pakistan's Military, against the illegal State of Israel. However, it would be Pakistan's deadly proxy war tactics, which it has been applying for decades in Afghanistan and Kashmir, against Israel. But the difference would be that when Israel would want to hit back, Pakistan is strong enough to thwart Israel's attack (Unlike the impotent Iraqi Air Force, which couldn't do nothing in the Osirak Strike) and also hit back Israel if it wanted. So it is this sort of threat that Israel would face from Pakistan and the reason why Pakistan would be unaffected by any indian-Israeli collaboration, would simply be because China would keep india pressed firmly under its thumb.
Hence the reason to destabilize and dismember Pakistan. Hence the reason for 130,000 U.S troops, under whose shadow, the Zionists can run their CIA Drone-Strikes, Black-Ops Units, Funded Terrorists Groups and Psychological Warfare against Pakistan. And they have been trying their level best since 2008!
One might ask, why not since 2001 when the American troops landed. The answer is fairly simple, whereby establishing contacts, understanding terrain, developing tactics, assimilating in social culture of the region and developing relationships with groups that can be molded for their purpose, like Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kyrghizis & Azeris.
Then, finally in 2008, when the Govt changes in Islamabad ...... that is when they begin their attacks, their infiltrations, their terrorist attacks and their psychological warfare against Pakistan, the People of Pakistan and its Military Power.
This is all, an elaborate effort to destabilize Pakistan to the extent that it becomes warranted that United States should move in to secure its nukes. That is how the tactics works and that is how they are gaining the upper hand in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And in order for them to be stopped, it is imperative that Pakistanis unite under the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam, 100%.
It is also important that the People of Pakistan, start forming private groups, which run autonomously from the law-enforcement agencies, intelligence agencies, but work for the same goal as them in destroying all infiltrated terrorist groups, black-ops groups and other foreign elements. People of Pakistan should understand the concept of Anti-Body White Blood Cells, and begin to act like them in order to purge Pakistan of America's dirty war.
If Pakistan can survive another 3 years, then it would witness America disintegrate economically and Israel would have to rely heavily on its ties with hindustan and its own black ops to challenge Pakistan. Which would also send them back to the drawing boards, to rethink their strategy.
Posted 8 months ago on 25 Sep 2011 20:38 # -
osakaboy
MemberA powerful presentation of all problem's of America with Muslim world by Dr. Sam Richards
Posted 8 months ago on 25 Sep 2011 21:01 # -
quaidkamazaar
Memberstop giving foreigners access to your country goddanngit how about that???
what the hell are Uzbeks and Afghans doing in Pakistan except plotting against our country?
This is exactly why Pakistan is safehaven for terrorists and u guys need to understand this as soon as possible. Doesnt matter who made Taliban, we just dont want them in our country... PERIOD
get it straight, Pakistan is not a country where all kicked out banned muslims can come and have a party. have some self respect. GA PAK
Posted 8 months ago on 28 Sep 2011 19:44 # -
Adonis
Member" get it straight, Pakistan is not a country where all kicked out banned muslims can come and have a party."..............
-----------------------------------------------------------This golden advice is only for Afghan and Uzbek Muslims or it is applicable to indian, bengali and burmese Muslims as well? If yes, then what is the cut-off date from which it should be implemented? Would it be enforceable retrospectively or only in future?
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 7:09 # -
saladin89
Memberwe are a terrorist country PPP, PML N and MQM are state terrorists, when talking of terrorism we cannot forget these 3.
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 8:10 # -
karim
Memberexactly! ..and the irony is that some *moderately enlightened terrorists* cross our eastern borders frequently into a neighboring country, get training, funding and ammunition and then come back to cause a myahem in the economic hub of Pakistan.
and the biggest irony is that these terrorists get full support and patronage from a certain political party that claims to be a party of mazlooms, middle class, educated and patriotic folks.
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 8:23 # -
quaidkamazaar
Member@Adonis
the golden rule is for anyone... not just Uzbeks and Tajiks and Afghans.... also Indians or Bengalis or anyone...
anyone who is going to use this land for the wrong purposes should not be allowed to make it a safehaven for their evil purposes.
I think the nation needs to have this mindset to tackle terrorism, we are just too soft for our own good.
you guys need to grow up and stop calling political parties terrorists.... they are voted by the people, by us and are our representatives no matter how good or bad they are.... but Taliban and likes are not voted by us and they are nothing but thugs.
a change of mindset is needed, stop letting crazy evil doers take advantage of our country under banner of Islam... its enough. this is not for America's sake, its for our own sake and healthy future.
you can keep thinking about conspiracies, but the truth is that Pakistan is going down the drain and the whole world literally everyone has poor image of this country.
lets have cricket return to Pakistan as well :)
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 15:15 # -
siddiqi73
Member@saladin89,
Bro, don't you get tired of chalti bus mein sawar ho jana? The topic is related to terrorism and Pakistan and you have to yap about political parties.
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 15:54 # -
outspokenloud
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Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 16:01 # -
Dusky
Member@Adonis: "This golden advice is only for Afghan and Uzbek Muslims or it is applicable to indian, bengali and burmese Muslims as well? If yes, then what is the cut-off date from which it should be implemented? Would it be enforceable retrospectively or only in future?"
Ok, what you vouch for?
Should we rename Pakistan as "International Muslim orphanage" and welcome all Muslim outlaws from the globe in Pakistan?
Posted 7 months ago on 29 Sep 2011 16:08 # -
Posted 7 months ago on 30 Sep 2011 16:05 #
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