After watching this clip, I have no sympathy with this Naapak Army! I thought that Talibaans were bad but this video proves that they all are same.
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Pakistan Army or Talibaan?
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Posted 2 years ago on 06 Oct 2009 21:33 #
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Asli Moulana
BlockedThere is good theory out there that this all is a coverup done to dilute the patriotism of the Pakistani people and dissolve any and every respect one has for the Army of Pakistan.
Could this entire incident fall under that category ?
Posted 2 years ago on 06 Oct 2009 21:40 # -
Pashtuns actually deserves this! They are fools who thinks that they will live in peace and dignity in this country. Pakistan should rather be called Punjabistan! After operation in FATA,SWAT and now they want operation in Waziristan followed by Baluchistan!
I did raised the issue of Army Operation in Pukhtoonkhwa and Drone attacks but Pakistanis have been pre-conditioned to become "Baygharat" who will listen to leaders like zardari,nawaz shareef,altaf and asfandyar but won't raise an eye brow for these unlucky people of north-west of Pakistan!
I want to now see Drones on Baluchistan and then on Punjab and then on sindh so every pakistani can feel the pain and humiliation with Pushtuns too.
SHAME ON EVERY SINGLE PAKISTANI POLITICIAN, SHAME ON PAKISTAN ARMY GENERALS, SHAME ON EVERY PAKISTANI MEDIA ANCHOR PERSON!
Posted 2 years ago on 06 Oct 2009 21:42 # -
No maulana sahib!
I disagree with your theory...This video is an army personnel video and the way those people who were tortured and humiliated was not fake. Just for one minute...Close your eyes and think of that old man as your father and u will feel the same pain, humiliation and anger which I am feeling rite now!Posted 2 years ago on 06 Oct 2009 21:45 # -
Asli Moulana
BlockedNo Khan Sahib i think you misunderstood me.
What i was saying is that look at whats happening to our country we are being encroached from all sides leading to one big disintegration of the country named Pakistan.
Whether its Punjabi Army or Pushtun Taliban or Mohajir MQM or the Sindhi or Baluchi Separatist all are the criminals. I believe that there was a distinct effort going in country since its conception, so it wouldnt be too far to believe that those groups have finally succeeded to do what they wished to do.
Its not entirely inconceivable is it ?
I m just thinking that the current infrastructure of the Troika of the Pakistan Establishment is hell bent on removing all possible avenues from where there would be opposition to the dissolution of Pakistan.
Posted 2 years ago on 06 Oct 2009 21:51 # -
I agree with your statement, as I always thought that Pushtuns will be the last to say,Yes to the division of Pakistan. I am not saying this just because I am Pushtun but if you go and visit those areas, you will know what I mean!
Pushtuns have been used for over 30 years in the name of JIHAD E AFGHANISTAN initially and were pushed/backed by pretty much >95% of pakistanis at the peak of this JIHAD. But after 9/11 and a bit b4, they were already victimized by the administration. Pakistan army is an institution which was always well respected in north of pAKISTAN. In 1947, after partition, it was these Tribal people of FATA who fought against india in Kashmir and would have captured srinagar, but our so called leaders were too quick to listen to UN and America(as if india has ever cared of them)
Now, the same Pushtuns are victimized and not even a word from punjab or sINDH? I am watching the picture slide of Altaf, Zardari and Nawaz with Fazal ur rehamn on TV! DO you really think that they love Pakistan,ISLAM or even Humanity?
These leaders have no faith,religion or nationality! They have only one thing in common and that is £££$$$ But now I have lost hope from Pak Army chief too... He is actually the Biggest Traitor as these Politicians are civilians but being an Army chief and with an oath to defend pakistan and Pakistanis, He is doing an excellent job by licking american a s s and allowing DRONE attacks, Extending army operation in Baluchistan and God know where!
Posted 2 years ago on 06 Oct 2009 22:13 # -
I apologize for starting this topic while another thread was already started.Just noticed it.
Moderators can merge these threads together.ThanksPosted 2 years ago on 06 Oct 2009 22:41 # -
shikra
Blocked@ Dear Khan Sahib,
The video really offended my feelings for innocent and aged persons.
I guess Pakistan Army behaved the same way in East Pakistan.Hammood-ul-Rahman Commission Report carries some of pathetic stories.
A Revolution must evolve and emerge now.Posted 2 years ago on 06 Oct 2009 23:11 # -
Red-Scorpion
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Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
Wouldn't you fight against Pak Govt. + Pak Army if they allowed America to;
- bomb YOUR house ?
- KILL your loved ones in the masses ?
- bomb your marriage celebration ceremonies?
- bomb gatherings where people are mourning deaths of loved ones ?
- when Pak Army under Musharraf handed over innocent Pakistanis' freely to US for torturing, for putting them in maximum security torture camps, WITHOUT ANY KIND of extradition proceedings held inside Pakistan ?
Why do Pakistani people complain, when people of Waziristan say;
Ok, You want to support America, you want to be their foremost partner in their effort to drop bombs on our houses ?
Ok, we will retaliate, we will commit suicide bombing in YOUR civil areas, we will KILL YOUR people in retaliation for this.
WHO can say they are wrong in doing this ?
When has Pak Govt. or Pak Army EVER treated them good in the last 60+ years ?
WHEN ?!!??!!?!!!!
Their houses are being bombed, their loved ones are being killed. You think they will stay quiet and do nothing ?!?!!!!
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 5:24 # -
Red-Scorpion
Blocked@hariskhan
Wouldn't you fight with Taliboon terrorists and their supporters if
- they destroyed your business by blowing up your CD shop or barbar shop !
- they slaughtered your relatives !
- they destroyed your children's school
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- they killed thousands of innocent your fellow country men/women/children by blowing them into pieced through suicide-bombers !Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 5:30 # -
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
If you want to hear, what is just, what is right, let me tell you.
Taliban are doing Jihad in the name of ALLAH ALMIGHTY, even Pakistani Taliban are justified in what they do. I had this realization, because I heard, people of Waziristan are fighting against Pakistan govt. or its Army, because Pak Govt. is taking side with America who is dropping bombs on them via drone attacks.
What would you do ? PRAISE Pak Govt. or Pak Army ?!?!!!!!
Pak Army in contrast even after being a govt. Institution, is working AGAINST the interests of Pakistan, Pakistani people, 17+ million Muslims of Pakistan.
Pak Army is beating, torturing, killing its own people in FATA, NWFP, for Americans just for $1.5 billion or some of it in military aid. I believe Pak Army wants this so they can enjoy their lives of luxury, or so they can get new military toys.
What do you think will the entire world think about people of Pakistan, when its OWN govt.;
- doesn't respect its people, doesn't respect basic human rights of people of Pakistan ?!?!!!
- hands over innocent people to USA for torturing as war criminals, WITHOUT ANY legal proceedings inside Pakistan ?!?!!
WHAT ?!!?!!!!!
America is against Jihad. Pak Army under Musharraf banned ALL Jihadi groups on behest of USA + Israel + India who were operating in Occupied Kashmir, which is STILL a DISPUTED area.
WHY ??!!?!!!!!!
Pak Army is killing Jihad. Pak Govt. is talking against Jihad. Today, even people of Pakistan are talking against Jihad.
So, why are people of Pakistan complaining, when they have STOPPED Jihad against America, who is continuing with their policy to KILL as many Muslims as they possibly CAN ???
WHY ?!?!?!!!!
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 5:34 # -
Pak Truth
MemberFactious Video – A try to tarnish Army Image
Factious Video – A try to tarnish Army Image
The creation of video against army is a sheer try of defaming Pakistan Security Forces and its intelligence agencies. Armed Forces have carried out operation against terrorists, militants who were sponsored by Afghanistan, India and America. RAW was directly involved in despatching and training militants through RAAM (Khad).Unfortunately, some elements of foreign paid Human Rights Commission Organizations have tried to tarnish Pakistan Security Forces on the instructions of their masters. Basically Mr. Ali and his team directly or indirectly became the part and parcel of malicious campaign against armed forces which was launched by our adversary .I would like to ask those so called protectors of human rights to comments on following?
Where were they when so called Taliban were beheading innocents locals?
Where were they when they slaughter Pakistani Capt Bilal?
Where were they when Taliban found lashing girl in the crowed?
Where were they when Taliban use to abduct innocent children for suicide bombing?
Why where they when Sufi Mummad revealed his own translation about Islam?
Why they have not launched protests against them while visiting Swat?
Where were they when Indians have raped innocent girls in Kashmir?
Why they don’t protest against Americans brutality in Iraq?
Have ever visited the families of soldiers of have scarified their lives for the national cause?
Why they were scared of launching protests against Taliban when they were destroying girls’ schools?
http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/factious-video-%e2%80%93-a-try-to-tarnish-army-image
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 5:36 # -
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@Red-Scorpion: I wouldn't. You know why ? Because Pak Govt. + Pak Army supported USA to bomb their houses, their loved ones, their marriage ceremonies, their gatherings to mourn the loss of loved ones.
They are doing this in retaliation for Pak Govt. + Pak Army's support to USA, who is bombing them via drone attacks.
They are FULLY justified in what they are doing.
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 5:37 # -
SufiSoul
MemberDays are comming when Pak Army and Marines will jointly appear in such video clips TORTURING Pakistani women..
JUST WAIT FOR SOME MONTHS!!!
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 5:37 # -
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@KHAN_Sahib: Why were you quiet when others were being bombed ?
Why do you ONLY react WHEN YOUR OWN HOUSE is being bombed ?
Are others not Muslims ?
I ask this question FROM THE ENTIRE Pakistani nation, from EVERY single person in it.
Didn't Muhammad (SAW) say;
Muslims are like one body. If there is pain in one part of the body, the other parts also feel its effects.
??!?!?!!!!
Why then are you complaining NOW ?!?!!!!! WHY NOT BEFORE ?!?!?!!!!
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 5:41 # -
Pak Truth
MemberFactious Video – A try to tarnish Army Image(2 posts)
http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/factious-video-%e2%80%93-a-try-to-tarnish-army-image
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 5:42 # -
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@SufiSoul: I wonder if we will;
- remain cowards, fearful for our individual lives ?
- wake up before or after that happens ?
- become Muslims OPENLY, BEFORE or AFTER that happens ?
- STAND UP for something, STAND UP for ourselves, Muslims, people of Pakistan ?
- RISE for Jihad, in the name of ALLAH ALMIGHTY ?
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 5:44 # -
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
There's a famous saying;
EVERYTHING is fair in LOVE and WAR
People of Pakistan, as well as Pak Govt. + Pak Army have NO!!! right to complain when people of FATA, NWFP retaliate against them for supporting USA to bomb their homes, their loved ones via drone attacks.
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 5:47 # -
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
ALL of Pakistan SHOULD THANK people of FATA, NWFP, that they are STILL going along with Pakistan.
USA had planned that people of NWFP would start a liberation movement as a DIRECT result of the injustice Pak Army is committing on behest of America in FATA, NWFP.
USA has similar plans for Baluchistan, Sindh. Pak Govt. is ALREADY gearing up for an illegal, un-needed military operation in South Punjab, in Baluchistan.
Are people of Pakistan BLIND ?!?!!!!
Can't they see this happening EVERYDAY, in-front of their own eyes ?!?!!!!
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 5:58 # -
Bhuttobhai
MemberThis is all B.S. and Indian propaganda....against the Pak Army and the good work they are doing against the Raw supported "Taliban" in Pakistan.
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 17:57 # -
pk78611
MemberWell i think some of the people are needlessly being emotional about the video.. There are only two possibilities.
It could be fake video which is very easy to do..specially to malign Pak army specially in view of current possiblity of confrontation between zardari camp and the Army on KL bill and other matters of national security..You can expect any cheap tactic from Zardari camp
The second possiblity is that its genuine..In that case i feel that the some people need this type of treatment to make them understand that if they take law into there hands then someone else can take law in their hands too..It is the ONLY method by which u can make it understood to some people. These people behead innocents..lash women in public and also kill innocents on streets..In that case i think even harder treatment should be given to these people since they are neither muslims not human beings and the only language they understand is that of violance..So no issues at all and ii think its the best strategy...I think these so called protectors of islam shoudl be hanged publicy as well..
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 18:30 # -
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@Bhuttobhai, @pk78611: When you don't take side with JUSTICE, when you become party to injustice, YOU are ALSO responsible for its continuation.
If you are blinded by loyalty to Pak Govt. or Army, that you compromise on JUSTICE, I would say, EVEN animals!! are BETTER than you. You are not doing service to your nation, you are helping in destroying it. For JUSTICE is ONE of the pillars on which a nation STANDS UP.
You forget the Hadees of Muhammad (SAW);
The nation which abandons justice, moves towards destruction
This is EXACTLY what is happening with Pakistan i.e., absence of JUSTICE has brought Pakistan to where it stands today
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 19:19 # -
rocketrevolt
BlockedBhangi Army Must pay for it!!! Better now than later but even Later it would be fine!
Hang these Back stabbers,leeches living on people's blood!
Aey Kiyani ****!
Tujhey Maut hey aani
Teray ghader ki kahani
Teray baap ki zubani!:)
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Oct 2009 19:46 #
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