expakistani
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Ref:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_pakistan_al_qaida_arrest
now Pakistan have chance to get Dr Affia trade in with another Al Qaida member.
This will give boost to PPP and Zaradari. will finish up JI and PTI's one issue/ agenda.
Pher Mulk main Aman ke fakhta urey gi...
Shock
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@expakistani
Yes, but then they will raise hell for handing over Adam Ghaddan to U.S.
firstbullet
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why the heck we need terrorist afia back no sane person wants a terrorist female who is capable of making biological chemical weapon to destroy her own country.
as far as JI and PTI they always looking to emotionalize the issues this is the only thing they have in their hands instead of public support.
aman ki fakhta jab tak nahi urey gi jab tab tak JI and IJT Terrorist organization declare nahin hojati or un ke sare financial assets block nahi hojate.
RajputPuttar
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very true firstbullet.
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Omer Khan
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@firstbullet:
It is not the case that "we" need her back in Pakistan, It's just that if we are going to extend due process of law to mass murderers like musharraf, zardari, Kiani, or Satan's breastfed minions like benazir et allum and even a national hero like AQ Khan (whose actions by all accounts were potentially cent times more deleterious) then the same should be reserved for Afia, this is assuming that she WAS in fact a terrorist. Now of course, we do not know is she was or wasn't. I'm going to assume at the very least she was sympathetic a la the Tipton 3.
That was never and to his day has not been proven.
What we DO know allegedly by her account and other prisoners in Bagram is that she was gang raped multiple times, tortured and subjected to sexual humiliation (the latter 2 also backed up by her examining doctors and shrink) and really it is not that hard to believe that (and no inquiry or follow up on that btw). And that's what should horrify every single decent human being. This was done to her not by some wayward militant group, or rogue elements of the military or government but by the instrument s of the government itself. Where is the justice and inquiry on that?
There isn't any, that would be a new can of worms and embarrassment.
The horror is that this could happen to any one. The horror is that this was done to her by an evil regime (US/Pak whatever the imagination springs up doesn't matter), breaking its own laws and international standards of decency and laws to which it is a signatory.
Now of course, given that masses and especially those of 3rd world countries are largely apathetic because their ELITES are apathetic (so nothing shocking about your comments really), it is not only refreshing and heartening but also surprising to see an upstanding elite making a principled stand with sound consistent arguments. And that is of course Imran Khan. I don't think any other politician or civil leader apart from a few media personalities come close.
This is not propaganda or gaining political points. This is a willful expending of time, energy and parlance by an individual who is horrified ( and that's why Imran Khan is a weirdo, but I would rather have this sensitive weirdo on my side when they come for me and so would most of you) that no one is bothered by this? And that's why he has said more than once, had this woman been an American or a Western woman you'd see all kinds of activism and anger, from the very liberal to the socialist leftist(dumfvcks) to the likes of Geert Wilders (Wilders is the type who uses tragedy to score political points based on bigotry), everyone coming around this national rallying point. Think of pfc Jessica Lynch who was captured by Iraqi troops. Her honor became the rallying point for all Amerians regardless of how they viewed the war. Of couse when the truth came out that she wasn't raped in fact treated with utmost love and care by the Iraqi medical staff and in fact her life was put in danger by the "daring live" rescue is another matter, and the fact that the most hawkish of the warmongers in the republic than dissed her for being upfront (Kudos to Lynch for telling the truth, but more on that latter). The point is, that there are certain things which rouse resilience in nations, even in he apathetic masses....all masses.
That too is gone from Pakistan.
Hence Imran Khan is clearly a deviation from the avg Pakistani elite, I would liken him to Jinnah in that his mentality is more Western than regional (and I use the term Western cautiously as I don't really believe in such dichotomies, only Universals). This is to an extent disturbing for it would imply that the any spark or shred of anger left in pakistani public is gone. In many ways, pakistan itself is much like Afia, repeatedly gang rape, humiliated, spat upon, accused of things whose truth may never see the light of the day.
The question is that when it comes to Dr. Afia PTI and JI shout from the bottom of their throat but when it comes to average pakistani women going through same situation inside Pakistan then we never saw them even opening their mouth....Why???
Omer Khan
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They do, of course they do. You may add PMLN as well. These 3 do raise their voices more often than other but PTI does it most often, most consistently, and in most honorable ways.
How come they are not heard like their voice of Dr. Afia Siddiqui???when were they did protest for those Pakistani women just like they did for Dr. Afia???
Omer Khan
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well i gtg, my finals week is nest week...and I know for a fact that i'm just procrastinating.
But I can help you out though:
pretty much pick any interview where Imran Khan or PTI is present, any speech, any interview with foreign media, any appearance in any symposium domestic or foreign.
In short let's not ask questions, answers of which we already know.
:)
ciao!
netengr
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Pakistan main koi alqaida nahi ,koi taliban nahi ,yeh sab amreeka ka propaganda hay says Imran Khan & munawer HAsan
Wahid Doyum
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How can mullahs support Aafia who ran away from her husband with the children? Is this allowed in Islam?
zia m
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If true, this is great news!
This may lead to to the capture of Zawahiri.
pappu
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why are we finding terrorist from all over the world in Pakistan? How did they end up in our country?
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
DAWN News: Suspect arrested in Pakistan not Gadahn: officials
Monday, 08 Mar, 2010
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This is what I see on DAWN's website.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@pappu: That's a good! question.
Why don't you ponder on it ? Give us the facts ?
Wahid Doyum
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The answer is obvious. Terrorists were invited by ISI to wage "jihad" on Pukhtuns.
jaypk
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any news abt the previous 5 americans in our custody..??
jaypk
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??
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
I find no news on DAWN, on this issue, after the last one.
jaypk
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wapis to naee bhaij diye US...pooray aizaaz k saath?
LalBichoo
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jaypk,
No, they are still in Pakistan and enjoying chicken broasts from KFC, BigMc from McDonald and Pizzas from Pizza Hut :)))
jaypk
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pakar k rakho sa***n ko...!! punjab police in ki chitrol kyun naee kartee?? sar e aam?? atleast they arent better thn poor hungry nude ppl who were stealing chaawal..!! i bet the whole pakistan would love to see thr phaintee and the ppl who would do tht will def get a medal frm ppl atleast..!
seriously...does anyone know the progress on tht case.?
i m afraid on a daily basis we have a new crisis and in between cheni aata roti kapra makaan cricket hockey loadshedding n all tht.. in a few days time ppl would forget abt them and so does media and they will quietly get a direct flight to US..!!
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