Pakistan Movement - For Muslim Majority State or Islamic Nation

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Pakistan Movement - For Muslim Majority State or Islamic Nation

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gv
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Were the leaders of the Pakistan Movement (1940-1947)more concerned with establishing a Muslim Majority state within the Indian sub-continent OR with establishing an Islamic State?

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 13:32 #
rhyme
Members

Im more concerned on how,when and who will become a reason to save Pakistan from existing danger and destruction....

Pakistan is a reality now whether "anyone" was in favor of it as an Islamic/UnIslamic state or against it so shouldnt we be more worrying about it?

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 15:25 #
ali-pk
Member

Islamic state.

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 15:27 #
aftab arif
Member

Islamic State but that should not be interpreted as a Theocratic State.

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 17:09 #
samrash
Member

Islamic state. In present day Pakistan, we need to understand this now more than ever, only Islam can be a binding force for all in Pakistan. Islam k naam per bana tha, issi k asoolon per chal ker hee qaim rahayga. Hope we understand this before its too late.

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 17:52 #
Dusky
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Islamic Nation? Their is no such thing.

We are Sunni, Shia, Wahabi, Deobandi, Baralvi, Salfi, Aghakhani, Bohri, Zaidia and what not? So which Islamic state you are referring gv?

In current day Pakistan, religion is more of a dividing force.

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 18:48 #
gv
Member

@dusky

its just an academic question.. but thanks for your input anyway

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 22:45 #
Anwer Kamal
Member

It was simply demanded a state for the areas where Muslims are in majority.
Nothing more or less.

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 23:15 #
expakistani
Member

In my opinion its was both.... for people living in muslim minority area idea was presented as Pakistan, "Islamic state for for all muslims".

For muslims living in majority areas idea was presented as "State for muslim majority".

I came to this opinion
1: by looking at following link and Iqbal's Allahbad speech

2: Number of people migrated from Hindu/sikh majority area to Pakistan leaving behind their own land

3: Liberal life style of muslim leadership during Pakistan movement.

This idea of Islamic state for All muslims was from Ch. Ellahi while Iqbal's idea of Pakistan was little different.
later onl Ch. Elahi was announced Persona non grata with his ideas.

Ref:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allahabad_Address

Iqbal's clarification about his Address

Following is the letter, Allama Iqbal wrote to Prof. Edward John Thompson of Oxford University.

Dr. Sir Mohd Iqbal, M.A., Ph.D. Barrister-at-Law

Lahore 4 March 1934

My Dear Mr. Thompson,

I have just received your review of my book. It is excellent and I am grateful to you for the very kind things you have said of me. But you have made one mistake which I hasten to point as I consider it rather serious. You call me a protagonist of the scheme called “Pakistan”. Now Pakistan is not my scheme. The one that I suggested in my address is the creation of a Muslim Province – i.e.; a province having an overwhelming population of Muslims in the North-West of India. This new province will be, according to my scheme, a part of the proposed Indian Federation. Pakistan scheme proposes a separate federation of Muslim Provinces directly related to England as a separate dominion. This scheme originated in Cambridge. The authors of this scheme believe that we Muslim Round Tablers have sacrificed the Muslim nation on the altar of Hindu or the so called Indian Nationalism.

Yours Sincerely,

Mohammed Iqbal

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 23:17 #
Rizwan Qaimkhani
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This was Chaudhary Rehmat Ali's Pakistan:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bGKILRSXZEM/TkdwCnmpCuI/AAAAAAAAALA/c9tGgBUiTXc/s1600/Now%2Bor%2BNever%25253B%2BAre%2BWe%2Bto%2BLive%2Bor%2BPerish%2BForever.jpg&imgrefurl=http://asalam-co.blogspot.com/2011/08/chaudhry-rehmat-ali-is-unfortunate-to.html&h=556&w=585&sz=86&tbnid=6HFBdFlq2R8ocM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=95&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dchaudhry%2Brehmat%2Bali%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=chaudhry+rehmat+ali&docid=fyqTOHAtugYnOM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VoVuTqirMOXpsQK-hsSzBA&sqi=2&ved=0CFQQ9QEwCw&dur=255

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 23:19 #
gv
Member

@ex pk

as per Rizvan sahib's post above it was Chaudhry Rehmat Ali not Chaudhry 'Elahi' who coined Pakistan as a concept but thank you for elucidating Iqbal sahib's point of view as concurrent with the rest of the aiml.

@ak

thank you! my point precisely

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 23:28 #
expakistani
Member

Sorry yaaron... thats what i ment ...

only sharif chudary in our history

(:

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 23:45 #
NNL
member

Aftab wrote

Islamic State but that should not be interpreted as a Theocratic State.

Do you know the difference if yes please explain.

Thank you.

Posted 8 months ago on 12 Sep 2011 23:48 #
spruce
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Posted 8 months ago on 13 Sep 2011 1:18 #
spruce
Member

i will secrifice for pakistan and my children will secrifice for pakistan.ZA Bhutto

Posted 8 months ago on 13 Sep 2011 1:30 #
Anwer Kamal
Member

See the difference. This great man was between 42-47 when these pictures were taken.
See the faces of the 60 years Jokers now a days.with colored ,transplanted hairs,Whigs, Make up on their dented faces,

Posted 8 months ago on 13 Sep 2011 1:57 #
spruce
Member

Dard e dil waasaty paida kea insaan ko
Warna tayat kay leay khuch kam na thay KAroobAyaan!

(IqBal)

Posted 8 months ago on 13 Sep 2011 2:02 #
spruce
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Posted 8 months ago on 13 Sep 2011 2:10 #
spruce
Member

mother of alama iqbal

father of alama iqbal

Posted 8 months ago on 13 Sep 2011 2:13 #