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Pakistan Navy Gets Its Drones

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  1. Navy inducts unmanned aerial vehicles in its fleet

    Staff Report

    ISLAMABAD: The first squadron of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) was formally inducted in Pakistan Navy’s fleet during a ceremony held at the navy’s airbase, Mehran, on Wednesday.

    Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Noman Bashir graced the occasion as chief guest. The indigenously developed UAVs are equipped with state-of-the-art equipment and sensors and can successfully be employed in support of Maritime Interdiction Operation (MIO) in the coastal areas. The induction of UAVs in Pakistan Navy will enhance its operational capabilities.

    Admiral Noman, while addressing the audience, congratulated all those who were involved in the UQAB-II programme and expressed satisfaction on induction of UAVs. He said that prevailing maritime environment poses multifarious challenges to navies across the globe. In addition to traditional roles, navies are now increasingly confronted with emerging challenge of deterring maritime terrorism. Owing to their small size, ease of operation and maintenance versatility in employment and low risk of loss, UAVs are regarded as force multipliers and are increasingly being used by combat forces worldwide.

    Admiral Noman reiterated that UAVs induction is a manifestation of PN’s commitment and resolve towards self-reliance and indigenisation. Cognisant of the heightened surveillance measures at all times, the induction of UQAB-II UAVs will provide essential experience to Pakistan Navy and necessary impetus to utilise this particular segment of warfare to the best use of naval objectives.

    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=20117\21\story_21-7-2011_pg7_15

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 9:31 #
  2. toamin
    member

    Drone is like mercedes and UAV is like a CD-70 motorcycle.

    Pakistan has long been developing UAVs locally, but they have a lot of technical limitations.

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 11:52 #
  3. Anonymous

    Can this thing fire a bullet? .. a stone? .. anything?

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 11:59 #
  4. toamin
    member

    It's not a drone, can't load anything except a camera, even that camera has limited capabilities as high-res technologies are subject to control regulations.

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 12:12 #
  5. siddiqi73
    Member

    These morons in the Navy don't need eyes in the sky but rather CCTV cameras mounted around their installations to thwart terrorist incursions. Any news about these sell-outs in uniform make my blood boil.

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 13:02 #
  6. Adonis
    Member

    One of these UAVs fell down over a factory in Korangi during test flight a couple of days ago. So much for the efficiency of our men in uniform.

    A previous naval chief was famous for using naval police for occupying farm land. This one is notorious for his BMW. Is their no honest soul left in uniform?

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 13:13 #
  7. toamin
    member

    سب چکر ٹھیکے اور کمیشن کا ہے، اس معمولی سے کھلونے پر بھی امیر البحر صاحب فوٹو سیشن کروا رہے ہیں، ظاہر ہے یہ انہی کا ٹھیکہ ہوگا

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 13:21 #
  8. scandinavian
    Member

    "One of these UAVs fell down over a factory in Korangi during test flight a couple of days ago. So much for the efficiency of our men in uniform."

    Was it the unmanned aircraft that crashed in the area with oil tanks etc?

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 13:23 #
  9. Adonis
    Member

    Yes.

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 13:26 #
  10. scandinavian
    Member

    Then I am amazed that test flights are conducted over highly risky inflammable areas.....INCOMPETENCE!

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 13:51 #
  11. When the war on terror began, Pakistan requested predator drones for the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) so that the Pakistanis could monitor the 2500 kilometer long Durand Line. The request was refused. Pakistan also requested helicopters, and asked the USA to launch a satellite for Pakistan. The requests fell on deaf ears. Pakistan also requested 80,000 M-16s or Klashnikovs for the Frontier Corps who are still using WW2 vintage rifles. The guns have still not arrived.

    However Pakistan was asked to “Do More.”
    Pakistan as a Major Non-Nato Ally (MNNA) and a founding member of SEATO and CENTO has not been given a single Predator or Reaper. Pakistan has an indigenous UAV capacity, but its drones cannot fire armaments.

    At present the laser guided technology helps it to identify targets and then relay that information to a helicopter gunship or a plane.

    Islamabad is in desperate need of UAV that can fire at the target. Need predicates development, and necessity is the mother of invention. It is like being under sanction.

    Pakistan was under sanctions when it designed and built the JF-17 Thunder with the Chinese. Now the latest UAVis being built with Turkish and Chinese help. Pakistan’s latest UAV is called the Burraq named after a mythical flying horse.

    ISLAMABAD — After years of watching U.S. drones operate along its Afghan border, Pakistan is working on its own Predator-like unmanned aerial vehicle to undertake the same mission, sources here said. The sources said the country’s air force and government-owned defense conglomerate, the National Engineering and Scientific Commission, are flight-testing a new-design aircraft to be equipped with a NESCom-designed laser designator and laser-guided missiles. The Burraq UAV is named for a winged horse creature in Islamic tradition, similar to Pegasus.

    According to local news reports, Pakistan is focusing its unmanned aircraft efforts on upgrading various older UAVs with Chinese help. But the sources note that no domestically produced UAVis large enough to heft both a missile and a targeting system. The military’s most capable UAV is the air force’s Selex Galileo Falco, which can laser-designate targets for other platforms but cannot deliver munitions.

    Officials with the Ministry of Defence and Ministry of Defence Production here refused to confirm or deny the program’s existence. A spokesman for the military’s Inter Services Public Relations said it was “not ready to give a statement on the issue at this time.” One former air force officer said the notion of a Pakistan-developed hunter-killer UAV is credible. “You only have to see our track record,” said Kaiser Tufail, a retired air commodore. “We have some fantastic achievements in the field of defense.”
    Tufail said Pakistan needs such a weapon. Anti-terror operations on the frontier require “hours and hours of round-the-clock reconnaissance,” married with the ability to strike quickly when a target is spotted, he said. Help from China? Analysts were more dubious about Pakistan’s ability to produce a laser-guided missile, but they noted that help might be found in China or Turkey. Turkey, with whom Pakistan has an agreement to cooperate on UAV development, is seeking an armed UAV, preferably the Predator or MQ-9 Reaper. This UAVmay someday be armed with the UMTAS infrared guided anti-tank missile being developed by the Turkish firm Roketsan to arm the T-129 attack helicopter.

    Pakistan could simply produce China’s new CH-3 unmanned combat air vehicle, “or co-produce any number of Chinese components to assemble a unique UCAV,” said Richard Fisher, China specialist and senior fellow at the International Assessment and Strategy Center in Washington. “China has also developed the unique AR-1, a 45-kilogram, laser-guided attack missile, apparently designed specifically for light winged or helicopter UCAVs,” he said. Pakistan reported developing armed UAV By Usman Ansari – Staff writer, Saturday May 9, 2009

    The Burraq is based on the Falco – SELEX GALILEO technology. We produce information on the Selix Galileo so that an adequate comparision can be made with the Burraq.
    The FALCO UAV System is a Medium Altitude Endurance & Tactical UAV designed for optronic and electronic surveillance roles. The basic mission is target detection, localization, identification and designation through its on-board sensors suite which typically include a thermal imager, a color TV Camera and a spotter, or a laser designator.

    The best features of the FALCO System include automatic take-off and landing (with STOL performance), fully redundant and fault-tolerant control systems, digital buses and control link equipment, automatic area surveillance modes and near-real-time target image processing.
    The Burraq also uses the design if the Pegasus HALE UAV. The information on the Burraq is similar to the information on the Hale.

    Until today, the use of unmanned aircraft has been hindered by the sheer size of the wingspan needed to carry the weight of the payload. With payloads often weighing up to 100 kg, the wingspan required would extend to 60 or 70 metres, creating a total weight of as much as 1000 kg. Aircraft with this weight and wingspan will not become operational for the next couple of years due to issues of air traffic control, safety regulations and technological hurdles such as the development of appropriate fuel cell technology.

    We bring you Pegasus, an integrated approach to mission-specific payload, aircraft, control systems and data processing technology. By developing a new generation of ultra light and extremely compact remote sensing equipment, we have been able to reduce the aircraft wingspan to just 16 metres and total flying weight to a mere 18 kg. Furthermore, because these aircraft are designed to be raised into place using the same kind of balloon that is used for weather sounding, no airstrips are required and air control regulations do not apply. The aircaft are taken up in an almost vertical position and reach their operational altitude within 90 minutes. Once in place, the solar powered engines are started and the aircraft is ready to act on instructions received from ground control. The recorded images are then sent to the central database at the ground station from where they are sent on to the customer. Using highly sophisticated software technology, the data can also be processed and analysed, and delivered in a wide variety of graphical and mapped formats, as required.

    Pakistan has been using its own drones which it has been manufacturing for a decade.

    http://pakistanibychoice.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/a-complete-detailed-analysis-of-pakistan-made-drones-and-uavs/

    http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=21360

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 14:00 #
  12. Just_one
    Member

    @Adonis & @siddiqi,

    You both are hypocrites of the first order. If you were really concerned with incompetence and corruption, you would not associate with a corrupt and incompetent leader like Nawas Sharif.

    His whole party is full of corrupts, land mafia and thugs.

    And worse, from your perspective, he is an illegitimate child of the army you so despise.

    Got that?

    PS: this is not the defend the army leadership, but to put the PMLN goons to their places.

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 15:32 #
  13. Adonis
    Member

    Don't force your views on others.

    All the things that you accuse Nawaz Sharif of, in my opinion are instead true for Imran Khan.

    You are entitled to your opinion and I to mine. Ultimately, the decision has to be of the people of Pakistan.

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 15:43 #
  14. Bird hit brings down Navy drone
    By: Mansoor Khan | Published: July 20, 2011

    KARACHI - A Pakistan Navy’s pilotless surveillance plane crashed near National Oil Refinery located in Korangi industrial area here on Tuesday.

    Police sources said an experimental flight of Navy’s remote-controlled plane crashed at the compound of National Oil Refinery situated in Korangi’s industrial area. The rescuers of various organisations, police and Ran-gers reached the spot soon after the crash. Fire brigade officials said two fire tenders reached the spot to extinguish the fire.

    SHO Asif Jakhrani said a remote-controlled plane of Pak Navy was taking a test flight when it hit the land owing to some technical faults.
    However, sources said the plane weighing around 15 Kg, was having two batteries and two surveillance cameras. Sources said plane, brought to Pakistan couple of days back, was hit by a bird after it took off during a test flight.
    Agencies add: “A Pakistan Navy UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) crashed after a bird hit it. It fell near an oil refinery and there was no (other) damage,” navy spokesman Commodore Irfan ul Haq told AFP in Islamabad.

    http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/20-Jul-2011/Bird-hit-brings-down-Navy-drone

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 16:36 #
  15. Just_one
    Member

    @Adonis,

    What are those things? Say with a straight face:

    Is Imran corrupt? Has he looted the national wealth? Does he has assets abroad? Has Imran been in power twice and did nothing? Has Imran built his industrial empire by misusing his power? Does he has huge corruption scandals against him?

    Did Imran moved from a house in Model Town to the palace of Raiwind after coming to power on the shoulders of agencies?

    Was Imran's party created by agencies and is largely made of feudals, thugs and land mafia?

    Come on answer these questions. How can you compare a corrupt buffoon like Nawas Sharif with Imran Khan?

    Posted 10 months ago on 21 Jul 2011 19:15 #
  16. siddiqi73
    Member

    Typical fan club nonsencical drivel. @just_one, read the title of this thread home boy; its not concerning your great leader who has a pending case of skipping child support in a CA court but rather UAV's of our Navy.

    As for PML (N) being a party of mafia, thugs and land grabbers; a certain Ijaz Jazai rings a bell and so does a candidate from NA-123 who were rejects of PML (N) but still your one man show party gave them tickets to contest during by-elections. Now that's what called hypocricy.

    Posted 10 months ago on 22 Jul 2011 5:09 #
  17. Just_one
    Member

    @siddiqi,

    How does Imran's personal life concerns the massive corruption that Nawas is responsible for?

    Hypocrisy means professing what you do not believe. You supposedly oppose the army for its alleged corruption and incompetency, but associate with a corrupt and incompetent political leader. How does this make sense? Does this not make you a hypocrite?

    As for Jazi Khan (or whatever), again - are you not showing further hypocrisy? Taking issues with two by-election candidates - who were former PMLN members anyway - of a party which is mostly consisted of new and accomplished faces, with an honest leader to boot - while associating with a party like PMLN which is full of corrupts and land mafia?

    There is no hypocrisy on my part. Even if we accept N's version regarding two by-election candidates of PTI, I am still associating with a far lesser evil compared to you. PTI is still a party headed by an honest person. PTI is still a party that never compromised for power and mostly consist of educated accomplished professionals. As such, I can argue that I have no option but to choose the far lesser evil.

    Get this: If you sincerely oppose corruption and incompetency, you should condemn Nawas Sharif and PMLN. If not, you will be called a hypocrite whenever you condemn anyone for corruption and incompetency.

    Posted 10 months ago on 22 Jul 2011 19:03 #
  18. @all
    Topic at hand is 'Pakistan Navy Gets its Drone'. Kindly stay on topic.

    Posted 10 months ago on 22 Jul 2011 19:08 #
  19. siddiqi73
    Member

    @just_one,

    When your ONE seat wonder becomes a PM; he can go all guns blazing against corruption,all the other vices which ails our country and oh yes....against Nawaz Sharif as well. Until then, stay on the topic...if you can't shed any light on military technology or UAV's..I would suggest that you take a hike and start some new thread on the greatness of whoever you worship (I can guess) or against someone you abhor the most (I can guess that as well!!).

    Posted 10 months ago on 23 Jul 2011 5:54 #

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