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shafiq12
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stingingnettle

Changing Pakistan is not the responsibility of one person but of everyone especially the youth

Yes they are changing it by spreading evil thinking -- Majority of Pakistani youth likes Hindus culture and eager to promote fruits of it--- hidus movies, songs, customs, rituals and stupidity is common in blood of Pakistani youth --- Yes they can change Pakistan by this way -----All what is, This country needs a classic villain --

Pakistan needs leaders who can prioritise our country's needs.

It very easy to say, Pakistan needs this and that but hypocrisy can;t produce such types of leaders -- Majority of Pakistani are hypocrites -- and this hypocrisy is passing from generation to generation --- See, it is very simple, no one is born hypocrite but his environment makes him -- Pakistan environment promote hypocrisy as it is governed by hypocrisy -- rich are becoming more rich, poor are becoming more poor--- You can't change sea of this selfishness -- Are you telling, those selfish rich aren't educated -- Even their education is useless against their diseases --

If I were sitting in the seat of you know who, I would spend a dramatic amount of energy and resources in reforming the education system of Pakistan followed by judiciary, police and health. The rest will have to wait.

false knowledge is more dangerous than ignorance -- What type of education, you will spread in the mind of those children -- Even if you are succeeded in promoting right type of education then how does this education benefit them --- Poverty is very bad, it makes educated uneducated --

What do you think Mr Prime Minister?

Dead men tell no secrets

Posted 6 months ago on 08 Nov 2011 5:36 #
stingingnettle
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Oblivion;

"Yes they are changing it by spreading evil thinking..."

I guess your cynicism and despair is not entirely misplaced. You perhaps point to a wider dissatisfaction with state of political awareness and interest of our youth. Commercial media has its own interests primary of which is to make money, and lots of it. PTV has the love and interest of the ruling party in its heart. So the youth don't really stand a chance unless they look around them and try and understand the misery and deprivation that surrounds them. It is not what they are watching but at the exclusion of what.`Young people need entertainment and because of my personal love for sports I think all young people should have lots of sports opportunities available to them but sadly what I look around, I see very very few facilities and playgrounds. It seems that country is so busy building houses and shops and Juma to Ittivar bazars that it has forgotten that our youth might need some space to kick a ball around like a park or a ground. The grounds I grew up playing in have now got bazars, buildings and roads built on them and most of them were supposedly dedicated sports grounds. To me taking part in a sport is always infinitely better than sitting in front of a television.

"Majority of Pakistani are hypocrites"

Sadly once again I think you are perhaps not too far from the truth. Also since there is not culture of accepting your mistake as we live in a fault-proof society where the biggest abuse you give someone is to say they are wrong. Introspection in Pakistan is stuff of dreams. I am utterly clueless as to how to get rid of hypocrisy in Pakistan however one thing I know; the solution does not lie in more religious education or more prayers. The greatest danger is not from false knowledge but from knowledge that claims to be true and infallible. To educate yourself, you have to first understand that you know little and then have the humility to learn from all irrespective of religion, region, country or culture. Once we stop torturing our children by thrusting half-baked quasi-historical-theocratic opinions down the throats of our youth, we will realise that they do want to listen and learn.

The disconnect we feel from the effects of our hypocrisy on others and on Pakistan is total and unchangeable. This disconnect perhaps provides us the numbness that we need to carry on living our highly hypocritical and dishonest lives.

The only cure for poverty is education. It's not a quick fix; it is a long term fix.

Posted 6 months ago on 08 Nov 2011 18:46 #
shafiq12
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stingingnettle

I guess your cynicism and despair is not entirely misplaced. You perhaps point to a wider dissatisfaction with state of political awareness and interest of our youth.

he who risks hope, risks pain-- I have no hopes -- Present youth of Pakistan is incapable to build Pakistan -- The reason is simple, they are receiving education of selfishness and selfishness begets selfishness - That is true, stingingnettle, you said,

Commercial media has its own interests primary of which is to make money, and lots of it. PTV has the love and interest of the ruling party in its heart.

Every kid grows up by watching the same media -- The media corrupts these kids, These kids grow up seeing everything in prism what media has taught them -- PTV is great pisser at the heart of this play, still pissing on minds of our generations -- Every brain, every thought is imprisoned by its stupidity -- Media is an important source of education -- It shouldn't be used for personal interests like money making etc ---- See,i give you example of cricket, Cricket is an illusion -- Who created this fantasy. it's media -- Media creates interest in the minds of people for cricket -- Base ball isn't common in Pakistan, why? because media doesn't spread it -- All fault lies with the media which is under grip of selfish giant -- Majority of Pakistani youth is wasting their lives on these stupid activities and are unable to find enough time to think for future-- I am not saying you are not allowed play or watch cricket -- but our media has gone too far in the field of cricket -- and see what your cricketer had done -- Your hero brings shame to every pakistani in the world -- Is this what you all are watching -- I would like to p!ss on all these stupid heros and their fantasy which is pure fiction and has got nothing to do with reality -- Pakistan had won world cup in the year 1992-- How this world cup has changed Pakistani problems-- See, stingingnettle, you are on right side of track with your generation

the solution does not lie in more religious education or more prayers.

You know, the greatest hypocrites on the earth are real atheist-- Religion doesn't taught hypocrisy , It's lack of religion which makes people hypocrites -- See, majority of Pakistan youth is getting away from Islam-- Only 5 or 6% muslims in Pakistan are practicing muslim,on the other hand, 90% are hypocrites----- Religion is an important source of education for mental or heart diseases -- Your material education can't change selfishness/greed/envy/heart sickness, unless you follow Islam --- I have already said, Why majority of Pakistani leaders are selfish -- Aren't they educated -- Why do education unable to change their minds for the future of generation

The only cure for poverty is education. It's not a quick fix; it is a long term fix.

That's not true, I know majority of educated people still wandering with their poverty in the desert of existence --

Posted 6 months ago on 09 Nov 2011 6:51 #
stingingnettle
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Oblivion;

"I have no hopes.."

Without hope there is not much point in anything. You may not have the kind of hope you want but there is always hope. Not all the youth of Pakistan are a lost cause, there are some remarkable young individuals who can act as a catalyst for change. What these people need to do is to get political and get active. I am talking about the silent majority youth who has not spoken yet; who are sitting of the sidelines wondering if they should do something or not.

"Your material education can't change selfishness/greed/envy/heart sickness, unless you follow Islam"

No amount of material education (whatever you mean by that) or Islamic education can change anyone if they do not want to change. But only a small amount of any education can change a person completely if they want to change. Muslims were not the inventors of all things moral, they were only a step-up transformer for what was already known and understood. Following any religion is a highly personal thing and they moment you make public, it becomes depersonalised and ends up becoming a job that you have got to do. It simply becomes a ritual. There is no compulsion in faith, and for this reason let people practice it at home and properly. In civic life, there is compulsion; Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal etc....

Proximity or distance to faith or the atheism or secularism or whatever is not the cause of the rot, it's the exclusive linking of moral living with your personal faith that is the problem.

Everyone can be made to conform out of fear, that is not faith -- it's simply fear.

Your faith is your private hotline with the maker and that is how it should remain.

"I know majority of educated people still wandering with their poverty in the desert of existence --"

Everyone has to do a bit of wandering in life, it's not a bad thing provided you do your wandering on a full belly.

Posted 6 months ago on 09 Nov 2011 23:10 #
shafiq12
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stingingnettle

I am talking about the silent majority youth who has not spoken yet; who are sitting of the sidelines wondering if they should do something or not.

You live in fantasy -- There is no such silent youth -- They are talkative like you --- The so called silent youth is zero in when it comes to sacrifice --- You cant acquire change unless change is colored with blood --- The youth which you are talking about, lives in fantasy like you --- They create fantasies to torch their reason -- In Pakistan, Majority of youth is wasting their lives to fill their stomach -- This is dangerous life cycle, one can't get rid out of this cycle -- The rich are enjoying and poor are dying -- See, stingingnettle, let talk about reality -- In reality, will you waste your blood for future of Pakistan -- The answer is obviously, no -- Your blood is precious like silent blood of youth

No amount of material education (whatever you mean by that) or Islamic education can change anyone if they do not want to change. But only a small amount of any education can change a person completely if they want to change

What effects a person, that's the environment in which he living -- Islamic system can control environment and corruption in the society -- Islam isn't merely a religion like many other religions -- It's a way of life -- A way of life adopted by each Prophet -- Today Pakistani youth/leader are corrupt because they lack such environment -- A shopkeeper cheats his customer to fill his stomach -- He has nothing to do except to cheat inorder to make his living easy -- Islam makes society balance with it principles --

Everyone can be made to conform out of fear, that is not faith -- it's simply fear.

That's impossible -- grim is necessary to control human nature -- A nature which tends toward evil -- If robber doesn't fear then his robbery will continue ---

Everyone has to do a bit of wandering in life, it's not a bad thing provided you do your wandering on a full belly.

The educated are wandering to full their belly -- In order to fill their belly they become uneducated

Posted 6 months ago on 10 Nov 2011 5:56 #
Hussain Farooqui
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All the countries of the world get engulfed by variety of problems from time to time. Their sincere leaderships solve problems with sincerity and intelligence. Our leaderships are neither sincere nor intelligent. Our Bengali brethren had some problems. Their problems were badly ignored and then inadequate military operation were conducted in East Pakistan. Resultantly, our enemies found a golden opportunities to create rifts and thus cause the division of our beloved country in 1971.

Even the tragic event of 1971 failed to give any lessons of sincerity and intelligence. Similar mistakes were then repeated in Sindh during Zia's regime, in Karachi during BB's regime in the hands of Gen. Baber, in KPK during Musharaff's regime, in Baluchistan during all regimes.

Posted 6 months ago on 10 Nov 2011 6:18 #
stingingnettle
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Hussain Farooqui

"Their sincere leaderships solve problems with sincerity and intelligence. Our leaderships are neither sincere nor intelligent."

And what are you going to do about that? Pray as hard as you can?

Perhaps this is all God's vengeance and we might as well except it.

Any solutions?

Posted 6 months ago on 10 Nov 2011 21:37 #
stingingnettle
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Oblivion;

"You live in fantasy"

We all do in Pakistan, it is easier to live that way. The actual time that we are alive is no longer than flash of light, the rest of the time we essentially are in a state of waiting.

The colour of change does not have to be red, this is an archaic concept. Change can only come when you are able to see the glass one quarter full instead of three quarter empty.

"Islamic system can control environment and corruption in the society"

It seems you live in a fantasy land too. Where you ever given any other option in terms of beliefs when you were in your formative years? Did you get a fair chance to make your own mind up about what works and what doesn't? Did you spend your tender years being told as opposed to being told to think critically yourself? You live in a complex age and simplicity is for those who don't want to feel their existence. Confusing religious education / deen with moral living is the ultimate fantasy we muslims indulge in. We didn't invent the wheel, so stop making the claim.

Fear does not educate, convince or convert; it simply generates the worst kind of hatred ie inner hatred. There is another place and another time where people do not fear but respect laws because that is the right thing to do.

Posted 6 months ago on 10 Nov 2011 21:53 #
shafiq12
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We all do in Pakistan, it is easier to live that way. The actual time that we are alive is no longer than flash of light, the rest of the time we essentially are in a state of waiting.

So you've agreed there is no thing such as silent youth -- you've created fantasy like silent youth-- and in that fantasy you are leading that silent youth and whipping corrupt politicians's ar$es until they glow red like hell itself --- You are in state of waste, You are wasting your brain--- i don't waste my brain i have no hopes -- Hope is to wait and also hope is to risk pain -- I have no hopes, doesn't it mean i am hopeless -- Please, don't create another fantasy -- Feel pity for your brain -- give some touch of reality to your infallible fantasy

The colour of change does not have to be red, this is an archaic concept. Change can only come when you are able to see the glass one quarter full instead of three quarter empty.

You talk talk and talk but can't walk -- Your talk can't bring change unless you walk -- You are selfish giant,stingingnettle, who is state of wait to enjoy the feast -- You want feast without any hardship --- That's impossible ---carry on living in your fantasy unless death finish your "state of wait"--- Change isn't kid's play -- Its needs sacrifice -- and you aren't willing for it -- Meaning your blood is still cool -- You'r talking about future of Pakistan just for time passing --

It seems you live in a fantasy land too. Where you ever given any other option in terms of beliefs when you were in your formative years?

There is no other option -- West have tried all of them, with their vast development,still they are suffering with mental/spiritual diseases ---- Islam is guide for your inner self and material education is guide for your outer self -- If you aren't educated about your inner self then your outer self is of no use -- It's reality you can't ignore -- The connection of vice and virtue relates to your inner self and you want your out self shining with abandoning your inner self --- great are thou arts!!

Did you get a fair chance to make your own mind up about what works and what doesn't? Did you spend your tender years being told as opposed to being told to think critically yourself? You live in a complex age and simplicity is for those who don't want to feel their existence. Confusing religious education / deen with moral living is the ultimate fantasy we muslims indulge in. We didn't invent the wheel, so stop making the claim.

I have all chances in my limited life --- Islam isnt merely a religion a way of life -- A way of life to shine your inner self ---

Confusing religious education / deen with moral living is the ultimate fantasy we muslims indulge in. We didn't invent the wheel, so stop making the claim.

The wheel is invention of material education -- islam prefers it -- You see, today American, they are using their technology to waste mankind, why because they aren't educated about their inner self -- The greed,envy and there many other heart disease which your material education can't finish in the minds ---

Fear does not educate, convince or convert; it simply generates the worst kind of hatred ie inner hatred. There is another place and another time where people do not fear but respect laws because that is the right thing to do.

Fear creates pain in mind -- The pain which brings suffering to human --- If you don't fear then you can do whatever you want -- You can't kill other human as you don't fear -- Why your politician are corrupt because they don't fear ---

Posted 6 months ago on 11 Nov 2011 6:14 #
stingingnettle
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Oblivion;

"You are wasting your brain--- i don't waste my brain i have no hopes -- Hope is to wait and also hope is to risk pain -- I have no hopes, doesn't it mean i am hopeless "

Perhaps I am wasting my brain but I cannot be without hope. I do not really know if you are completely hopeless or not but it is evident that you are not in a very happy place as far the state of affairs of Pakistan are concerned. To hope is to have the belief that nothing is impossible. Hope does not have to mean wait but those who confuse the state of waiting for hope are the kind of fatalist who will never be part of something great. We need to focus on people who are full of hope but not in a state of wait.

"Your talk can't bring change ..."

You state the obvious, every rational person knows that. Walking the walk is not that easy, you have to walk the walk in the right direction and not towards the edge of a cliff.

"There is no other option -- West have tried all of them,..."

But were you given to option? Did you get a good education in your school? Was your education free of bias? Was it fair?

"Fear creates pain in mind -- The pain which brings suffering to human --- If you don't fear then you can do whatever you want"

The way to produce a quality mind is not through fear but through love. Pain is not a suitable tool to train or educate 'ashraf-ul-makhlooqat'. The school system in Pakistan is such a monumental failure because they think hurting a child is the best way to make them learn their this-worldly or other-worldly education. To create a humane society, treat everyone with dignity, fairness and compassion.

Pakistan's woes are a product of a desensitised mindset, a mindset that does not find violence odd or unacceptable. I am still only talking about schools.

Here is a question that I want an honest answer to;

You say, 'I have all chances in my limited life..'

Question: Did you get to learn about other religions and history in a non-biased way when you were young?

To me, if you say you were given all the chances, then you must have been given a chance to make up your own mind. I am only referring to your formative years.

Posted 6 months ago on 11 Nov 2011 21:58 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

The country is in a very chaotic condition. We are ourselves responsible. Let us start doing something in our individual capacities before it gets too late.

Posted 6 months ago on 14 Nov 2011 5:41 #
cutenice62
Member

@Hussain Farooqui

its impossible, yahan pay kisi ko yeh tameez nahi hai k hamsayee may koi bemar hai ya koi soo raha hai woo adhi raat ko apnay ghar k bahar aa k pori qowat say paaaaaaaan paaaaaaan karna shoro kar deta hai or pori gali ko / sarak waloon ko utha deta hai......this third class nation (i am not saying country) should be doomed, without blood shed this nation can't progress. I am ready to bet on my words.

Posted 6 months ago on 14 Nov 2011 5:57 #
shafiq12
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Perhaps I am wasting my brain but I cannot be without hope.

Your hope is useless -- as it doesn't inspire your cause -- You are hoping and hoping till the bird of death comes

I do not really know if you are completely hopeless or not but it is evident that you are not in a very happy place as far the state of affairs of Pakistan are concerned.

The states of Pakistan is p!ssed by its own people -- People like you who are in state of wait and still pissing on its future --They are waiting for some comic character like Batman -- who will finally,free themselves from the grip of joker -- Your all kind live in same hope

To hope is to have the belief that nothing is impossible.

To hope for water in a desert which runs out of water, is like suicide --

Hope does not have to mean wait but those who confuse the state of waiting for hope are the kind of fatalist who will never be part of something great. We need to focus on people who are full of hope but not in a state of wait.

Hope brings wait, when you are going to change -- There are people full of hopes with sex/greed -- They believe in fantasy like you --

You state the obvious, every rational person knows that. Walking the walk is not that easy, you have to walk the walk in the right direction and not towards the edge of a cliff.

Every rational person, then why, chooses the easy path waiting and hoping -- It exposes hypocrisy of every rational personal --

But were you given to option? Did you get a good education in your school? Was your education free of bias? Was it fair?

The connection of vice and virtue is related to innerself -- If you're uneducated about your self then no good education would educate you about right and wrong -- It's your inner self, which teaches you biases and all sort of mental illness -- Your education will free of bias when you would know your inner self -- No material education will educate you about your innerself -- ;)

The way to produce a quality mind is not through fear but through love. Pain is not a suitable tool to train or educate 'ashraf-ul-makhlooqat'. The school system in Pakistan is such a monumental failure because they think hurting a child is the best way to make them learn their this-worldly or other-worldly education. To create a humane society, treat everyone with dignity, fairness and compassion.

Love is first option -- But he must fear who doesn't understand language of love -- Fear is tool to make people understand language of love -- No fear, no love

Pakistan's woes are a product of a desensitised mindset, a mindset that does not find violence odd or unacceptable. I am still only talking about schools.

It is because people aren't educated about their innerself --

Did you get to learn about other religions and history in a non-biased way when you were young?

When you are educated about your inner self -- You will easily find all biased source -- Islam is way to educated your inner self -- A way of life with unbiased source i.e Quran -- Christianity and Juadasim both are biased because their's book got corruption from human mind --

Posted 6 months ago on 14 Nov 2011 9:12 #
bsobaid
Member

insaani almiaa...

Human tragedy...
There are numerous such tragedies all around us but we act as if they dont exist, only if god forbid we become one too...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/urdu/2011/11/post_741.html

Posted 6 months ago on 14 Nov 2011 20:52 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

cutenice

What you are expressing is true. It is mostly due to lack of good education. Let us individually try to promote good quality education.

Posted 6 months ago on 16 Nov 2011 5:51 #
stingingnettle
Member

Oblivion;

I will leave you with your 'innerself'.

Belief is something that you think is true, but often there is no way of proving one way or the other.

When the people of my country will have a fully belly, then I am sure they will find the time to find their inner self but until then they just need the kind of eduction that will allow they to earn a dignified living in this life.

I wish to lots of fear as it is a language you understand. I don't doubt your honesty, I just don't agree with it at all. Fear might make you pray but it will never make you believe.

Pakistanis are suffering now because they are paralysed by fatalism and other-worldism. They can solve lots of their problems by realising that their destiny lies in their hands.

Pray to God for wisdom and clarity but don't ask him to solve your problems for you because that is not the way the whole thing works.

And last but not the least; I am not in a state of wait, I am a part of the change that is unfolding in Pakistan.

Posted 6 months ago on 16 Nov 2011 22:20 #
expakistani
Member

@stingingnettle
Brother your doing your part of Jehad, jehad against jhealat.

Keep up the good work.

Posted 6 months ago on 17 Nov 2011 1:57 #
shafiq12
member

stingingnettle

When the people of my country will have a fully belly, then I am sure they will find the time to find their inner self but until then they just need the kind of eduction that will allow they to earn a dignified living in this life.

That's the whole point which i am trying to explain but it seem you've swear not to understand ti -- When When the people of your country will have a full belly, --- They are cheating others in order to full their belly --- Again you have created fantasy -- Now i am done --

Posted 6 months ago on 17 Nov 2011 4:29 #
stingingnettle
Member

Oblivion;

"Now i am done -- "

That's good, so have am I.

Posted 6 months ago on 17 Nov 2011 8:07 #
shafiq12
member

stingingnettle
There are two way to full one's belly
Halal and haram --
You said

When the people of my country will have a fully belly, then I am sure they will find the time to find their inner self but until then they just need the kind of eduction that will allow they to earn a dignified living in this life.

It's religion which defines what is good way to full your belly -- If you neglect religion inorder to full your belly then surely fire goes into your belly --
I am not undone yet ;)

stingingnettle, please go to doctor

Posted 6 months ago on 17 Nov 2011 8:32 #
stingingnettle
Member

Oblivion;

I wish you lots of fear, religion and a very full belly.

If I need a definition of halal and haram, I will read up the stuff myself. I am not here to express my religiosity to anyone or to hear about other people's idea of faith. I am here to make sense of the Pakistan and everything Pakistani.

I will see a doctor if you promise not to preach again on pkpolitics. Well, are you up for it?

Posted 6 months ago on 17 Nov 2011 21:52 #
shafiq12
member

stingingnettle
i am not preaching, you are contradicting yourself, you claimed,

When the people of my country will have a fully belly,

A person whose belly is full with corruption, He will propagate corruption -- The right way, to fill the belly, is defined by Islam ----

I will see a doctor if you promise not to preach again on pkpolitics. Well, are you up for it?

I ain't preaching, i am giving you the reason -- Why educated pakistani, educated politicians are filling their bellies with corruption -

Posted 6 months ago on 18 Nov 2011 4:37 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

Bellies of corrupt elements are too large to be filled up.

Posted 6 months ago on 18 Nov 2011 5:56 #
shafiq12
member

Hussain farooqi
That's what i am trying to explain but he is saying, first one should fill his belly,

When the people of my country will have a fully belly, then I am sure they will find the time to find their inner self

I am saying a person should know before filling up his belly, the other hand, he is saying, a person should know after filling up his belly -- What do you say? Hussain farooqi

Posted 6 months ago on 18 Nov 2011 6:03 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

Greed of greedy people can never be satisfied. However, the poor and needy people can be satisfied by provision of basic necessities.

Posted 6 months ago on 19 Nov 2011 5:47 #
stingingnettle
Member

There is a difference between our politician's stealing millions and a pauper stealing a piece of bread. This is a point that Hussain Farooqui has understood.

The starvation and deprivation of a huge number of Pakistanis is the causal effect of the plundering and dishonesty of our ruling classes. Sorry, this is just stating the obvious.

You want to make people make smart decisions; well, don't expect them to do that on an empty stomach.

Yes, no amount of food or money will ever be enough for our rich, corrupt and infamous that we fondly call our leaders.

Posted 6 months ago on 19 Nov 2011 11:49 #
stingingnettle
Member

Another aspect our troubles is quite simply incompetence;

Here is my theory, where there is honesty and will to do the right thing, there is often a stark lack of competence, imagination and expertise to deliver the goods. I think the lack of competence might be as important as corruption in vying for the top position for what ails Pakistan.

I am not sure which is easier to cure, incompetence or corruption.

If I had to have a go at one, I would probably aim at competence.

Posted 6 months ago on 19 Nov 2011 11:53 #
Hussain Farooqui
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Middle class is the class whose basic needs are fulfilled adequately. In a developed society, the majority of people are supposed to be middle class. In an undeveloped society like ours, middle class is much smaller than poor class. Corruption, bribery and crimes mostly find room in a society like ours.

Posted 6 months ago on 19 Nov 2011 12:44 #
stingingnettle
Member

Hussain Farooqui

"Middle class is the class whose basic needs are fulfilled adequately."

I don't agree with what you consider middle class. Whilst I appreciate that the definition of middle class changes from country to country but in Pakistan, my perception is that people call themselves middle class to put clear distance between themselves and the have-nots. The middle classes of Pakistan do not go on holidays or own nice cars or even houses.

To belong to a middle class implies MORE than just your basic needs are met. Pakistan does not really have a proper middle class, you I suspect are referring to a upper working class.

Pakistan has a defining class of a different kind, the Non-Tax-Paying class. This is the biggest hurdle to full bellies in Pakistan. Recently I watched a programme in which PML N's Siddique Al Farooq mounted a hilarious defence of why Nawaz and co did not pay any income tax; the reason he gave was as follows;

Since everything is provided to Nawaz by his company, he has no income tax liability! I bet you are killing yourself laughing. And, yes you guessed it, his company pays sales tax which he implied was akin to tax being paid on Nawaz and co.'s very austere life.

So we need tackle the Non-Tax-Paying class before you begin talking about a middle class.

Posted 6 months ago on 19 Nov 2011 14:07 #