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Peer current shah....!! we are joking with islam..!

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  1. jaypk

    Posted 3 years ago on 30 Aug 2011 13:03 #
  2. fear

    jay pak
    he is sufi, sufis follow their own religion and rituals, and clip is 1 year old, and please for jaysus's sake don't behave like kids, as kids watch something new they started crying like you

    Posted 3 years ago on 30 Aug 2011 13:43 #
  3. @oblivion

    he is sufi, sufis follow their own religion and rituals

    Just curious to know if Sufis who follow their own religion is actually Deen-e-Islam and rituals are according to or within the confines of 'Islamic Jurisprudence' if Islam is the Deen being followed..

    (Proper forum for this type of discussion is 'Faith and Religion').

    Posted 3 years ago on 30 Aug 2011 14:05 #
  4. Scandinavian

    @Jaypk

    He could make a good living with all that current...this fraudia!

    Posted 3 years ago on 30 Aug 2011 14:08 #
  5. fear

    S.E mirza

    Just curious to know if Sufis who follow their own religion is actually Deen-e-Islam and rituals are according to or within the confines of 'Islamic Jurisprudence' if Islam is the Deen being followed..

    Deen e Islam is what that had been given to us by prophet muhammad (pbuh).... any thing which is out of islam that is Jahilliya not islam.... if someone is saying the rituals which are posted in above video and followed by sufis, are islam and are taught by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) then he isn't honest to the Islam and message of Islam... even i am sorry to say he isn't honest to the message of muhammad

    Posted 3 years ago on 30 Aug 2011 14:15 #
  6. @oblivion
    You missed this one! I am asking not saying..No where I have mentioned in my post above that 'rituals in the above video and followed by sufis are according to Islam as taught by Prophet Muhammed(PBUH).

    Kindly with a cool mind answer my questions:

    This one is for you, as you said

    he is sufi, sufis follow their own religion and rituals

    -Do you mean sufis have their own religion and that is not Islam?
    -Sufis follow Islam and associated rituals that are Islamic as shown in the above video?

    Posted 3 years ago on 30 Aug 2011 14:28 #
  7. fear

    S.e Mirza

    Do you mean sufis have their own religion and that is not Islam?

    I am very cool minded person, i think my post is quite clear, i said,"sufis follow their own religion" which means they follow their own man made religion and rituals that aren't islam--- infact the three pious generation after the prophet aren't familiar with the word "sufism"... i hope you would get the point

    Posted 3 years ago on 30 Aug 2011 14:34 #
  8. @oblivion

    sufis follow their own religion" which means they follow their own man made religion and rituals that aren't islam

    Jizak Allah khair brother. Very true. Thanks

    Posted 3 years ago on 30 Aug 2011 15:06 #
  9. jaypk

    sorry...was out of town..and a bit busy...so couldnt reply..

    so oblivion......coming to you..!

    1) its JAYPK..nt jay pak..i m sick and tired of fools like you who dont read..who dont look...and start kicking the dust...!

    2) the video is 1 year old....not 100 YEARS OLD as if you are saying...besides if it is 1 year old ...do you think that the whole world has watched it..?? WTF

    3) check my post...i have just written his name as it comes in the video...I HAVENT SAID A WOrd in the post except the caption...so how come you are saying that " i m crying like a kid"...whd makes you say that...stop giving premature assessments...!!

    i think you are a new kid on the block..so you better get outta this smarty replyin pents of you...and start acting mature before opening your chatterz..othwrise i ll get ruff as well...!

    as for the topic....i dont even consider you mature enough to talk on the topic....so i better not...but just a thought...if it gets a grasp in your first floor which is vacant..

    what is "their own religion"....islam is islam...if its their OWN religion...they shouldnt call it ISLAM...and should be out of islam..so they should be declared kafir as well for spreading all these BIDA'Ats....so if you have the balls to come back...discuss the topic...with a rationale....!

    Posted 3 years ago on 03 Sep 2011 20:27 #
  10. jaypk

    @SE mirza....sir..i think you tried well but this is also my point of raising this ....!

    Posted 3 years ago on 03 Sep 2011 20:31 #
  11. Side B

    I believe the word 'sufi' in our society is misinterpreted for 'fake ulama'.
    the people in the video should not be labelled sufi because sufism in itself is not an objectionable concept,
    infact it is simply defined as:

    "Two origins of the word 'sufi' have been suggested. Commonly, the lexical root of the word is traced to ṣafā (صَفا), which in Arabic means "purity". Another origin is ṣūf (صُوف), "wool", referring to the simple cloaks the early Muslim ascetics wore.

    According to the medieval Iranian scholar Abū Rayḥān al-Bīrūnī the word sūfi is a derivation from the Greek word "sofia" (σοφία), meaning wisdom."
    (wikipedia)

    So a humble request, please do not associate fake ulamas with the concept of sufism, not even if the fake ulamas wish to be called sufis because they aren't.

    Posted 3 years ago on 03 Sep 2011 22:19 #
  12. jaypk

    rite said^^^...ya this is just an excuse to be labelled as sufism..so that they can do all this khurafaat under the banner of islam...

    Posted 3 years ago on 03 Sep 2011 22:56 #

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