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    Is There A Connection Between
    Ancient Indian And Hebrew Language?

    A scholar finds compelling evidence for
    ancient Indian influence on a global scale.

    ViewZone welcomes this highly researched work by scholar, Gene D. Matlock, which is part of his complete manuscript showing the global influence of ancient India's culture and language. We welcome your comments and thoughts.

    Had you been a cartographer and geographer working for the British East India company in the 17th and 18th centuries, you would have found all over India thousands of Hebrew-like place names with similar meanings in both languages as well. The map excerpt on this page shows a small section of ancient Seuna-Desa (Zion Land) in what is now Maharashtra (to right). At the bottom right of the excerpt is the city of Paithan, on the banks of the river Godivari. The Indo-Hebrews named the part of the river passing through Paithan's territory Paithan (Pison, Phison), according to their traditions. In the upper left-hand corner is the city of Satana. According to the legends of the Yadavas (Indo-Hebrews), Satana would have made the folks in Sodom and Gomorah envious. The Seunas and the Satanas decided to resolve their moral and religious differences on the battlefield. The forces of "Satan" lost, but their defeat didn't dishearten them. Eventually, we came to think of "Satan" as a being who lost the battle but not the war. The bible tells us that such a peace treaty hasn't yet been signed between these two ancient enemies.

    In that part of India, the holiest of holies for the Indians, the names of many towns end in the appendage gaon. In Hebrew, gaon means "genius; great rabbinical scholar." Also in this region is an area that was once the favorite of Yadava royalty: Nashik, the exact Hebrew name for "Royal Prince." Satan is near the district called Khandesh (Land of Cain). There is also a Kodesh. Kod and Khad are Sanskrit terms for "First," "The Beginning," or "God." In Hebrew, Khadesh = "The first day of a Jewish calendar month." Notice that all these names have similar meanings and religious connotations in both languages. I invite my readers to investigate this anomaly for themselves.

    The similarity of these Indian and Hebrew names certainly traumatized European colonists. Unwilling to admit that the Jews had never sprouted spontaneously in the Arabian desert, or were from outer space as I read recently, but were from the East as the bible itself tells us, they merely erased these matters from their minds or convinced themselves that they were "coincidences," even though the "coincidences" numbered in the thousands and were peppered over every region in India.

    A 19th Century British Scholar Explains Why the Western World Never Learned About the Indian Origins of the Jews.

    Though not generally known in this day and age, Godfrey Higgins (1772-1833), archeologist, politician, humanitarian, social reformer, and author, was one of the most enlightened and educated men of early 19th century England. He was a well-known iconoclast, rationalist, and admirer of the Jews, who vehemently opposed any kind of persecution of this ancient religious group. He wrote two oversized volumes, totaling around 1600 pages of fine print, about the Jews' Indian origins. These two volumes, entitled Anacalypsis, are extremely rare. The last printing was done in 1965 by University Books, NY. It's a difficult book to read because the author painstakingly proved the minutest of details in his dissertation. Even good readers need several weeks to finish it.

    The first printing consisted of only 200 copies, twenty of which he had to give away. Only a few of the remaining 180 copies were sold. For nearly thirty years, the religious communities of England and Europe quietly suppressed the book. It has since been reprinted three times, but including the first printing, the total copies printed never totaled over a thousand. Only occasionally can it be found in a library. Even so, many authors have quoted and plagiarized it. Not a few spiritual charlatans, such as fraudulent mystics, psychics, and the Presbyterian preacher who wrote the novel on which The Book of Mormon is based, used Anacalypsis to produce their respective heresies and agendas. The famous 19th century mystic and founder of Theosophy, Madam Blavatsky, took advantage of the world's nearly total ignorance of this magnificent document, using much of Higgin's information, to convince the gullible that she had acquired her "mystical knowledge" from "otherworldly" sources called "Akashic records."

    Godfrey Higgins gave an opinion that I have always espoused, which explains in part why the similarities of peoples, languages, philosophies, and place names between India and the Middle East became lost to the memory of mankind after Christianity and Islam took over the West.

    "The outlines of the history of the extended empires, which I have here exhibited, would have been more conspicuous had our makers of maps and histories recorded the names of the places as they must have appeared to them. But from their native religious prejudices and necessary ignorance of the nature of the history, it seemed to them absurd to believe, that there should be places or persons in the East having exactly the same names as places and persons in the West; and to avoid the feared ridicule of their contemporaries, which in fact in opposition to the plainest evidence, and which they themselves could not entirely resist, that they thought well-founded, they have, as much as possible disguised the names. Thus, that which otherwise they would have called David-pouri, they called Daud-poutr, Solomon, Soleiman; Johnguior, Jahanguior, etc., etc. In the same way, without any wrong intention, they have been induced to secrete the truth, in many cases, from themselves, by hastily adopting the idea that the old Jewish names of places have been given by the modern Saracens or Turks, the erroneousness of which a moment's unprejudiced consideration would have shewn...I shall here merely add, that...I have observed...a great similarity in the countries where the tribes of Judah were settled in the East and in the West. The Western country seems, as much as possible, to have been accommodated by the Eastern..." (Vol. I, pp. 437-438.)

    "When Mahmud of Gazna, the first Mohammedan conqueror, attacked Lahore, he found it defended by a native Hindoo prince called Daood or David. This single fact is enough to settle the question of the places not being named by Mohamedans." (Vol. I; p. 432.)

    "I beg my reader to look at the ruins of the ancient cities of India: Agra, Delhi, Oude, Mundore, etc., which have many of them been much larger than London, the last for instance, 37 miles in circumference, built in the oldest style of architecture in the world, the Cyclopean, and I think he must at once see the absurdity of the little Jewish mountain tribe (the "Lost Tribes") being the founders of such a mass of cities. We must also consider that we have almost all the places of India in Western Syria...I think no one can help seeing that these circumstances are to be accounted for in no other way than by the supposition that there was in very ancient times one universal superstition, which was carried all over the world by emigrating tribes, and that they were originally from Upper India." (Vol. I; p. 432.)

    "...the natives of Cashmere as well as those of Afghanistan, pretending to be descended from the Jews, give pedigrees of their kings reigning in their present country up to the sun and the moon, and along with this, they shew you the Temples still standing, built by Solomon, statues of Noah, and other Jewish Patriarchs...the traditions of the Afghans tell them, that they are descended from the tribe of Ioudi or Yuda, and in this they are right, for it is the tribe of Joudi noticed by Eusebius to have existed before the Son of Jacob in Western Syria was born, the Joudi of Oude, and from which tribe the Western Jews with the Brahmin (Abraham) descended and migrated. (Vol. I; p. 740.)

    "In the valley of Cashmere, on a hill close to the lake, are the ruins of a temple of Solomon. The history states that Solomon, finding the valley all covered with water except this hill, which was an island, opened the passage in the mountains and let most of it out, thus giving to Cashmere its beautiful plains. The temple which is built on the hill is called Tucht Suliman. Afterwards Forster says, 'Previously to the Mahometan conquest of India, Kashmere was celebrated for the learning of the Brahmins and the magnificent construction of its temple.' Now what am I to make of this? Were these Brahmans Jews, or the Jews Brahmins? The inadvertent way in which Forster states the fact precludes all idea of deceit...

    "The Tuct Soliman of Cashmere in the time of Bernier, was described by him to be in ruins, and to have been a temple of the idolaters and not of the Mohamedans. The Mohamedans reported that it was built by Solomon, in very ancient times. All this at once does away with the pretence that it was a building of the modern Mohamedans; and is a strong confirmation of the Jewish nature of the other names of the towns - Yuda-poor, Iod-pore, etc., etc. Bernier goes on to say...that the name of Mousa or Moses is common among the natives, that Moses died at Cashmere, and that they yet show the ruins of his tomb near the town. This is curious when connected with the fact, that the Jews of Western Syria say, no one ever knew where he was buried." (Vol. I; p. 771.)

    An article in the April, 1997 issue of the Jewish magazine Moment discusses the possibility that a heavy Jewish presence once dominated India.

    "A tribe of Sunni Moslems called the Pathans, now living in parts of Pakistan, number at least 15 million. The Pathan language bears traces of biblical Hebrew, and the Pathans themselves claim lineage from King Saul. They are said to follow, in varying degrees of observance, some 21 'Jewish' customs, including lighting candles on Friday night, wearing a four-cornered prayer garment, and performing circumcision on the eighth day.

    Then there are the Kashmiris from Northern India, who number about five million; although they too are predominantly Sunni Moslems, many bear biblical-sounding names like Cleb (Caleb), Israel, Hahana, and Lavni..." (Searching for the Lost Tribes, by Winston Pickett, p. 51.)

    Aramaic, a language as similar to Hebrew as Spanish is to Portuguese, originated in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Both Afghanistan and Pakistan were once part of India. Afghanistan seceded from Indian in the 1700s. Pakistan was cut out of India when the two nations were partitioned after World War II. Aramaic also is the source of modern Hebrew's square alphabet, used in Israel today. The Hebrew square alphabet and the truth that Hebrew is just an Aramaic dialect confirm the Indian origin of the Jews.

    Those Christian and Jewish authorities who don't want it to be true that ten to thirty million Jews once lived in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Northwestern India say that it is just a "coincidence" that so many tribes and places there have biblical names. Others insist that the Moslems christened all those tribes and places. As Godfrey Higgins tells us, many of those tribes and places had already received their so-called "biblical names" millenniums before Islam was a gleam in Mohammed's eyes and many centuries before those same names started showing up in the Middle East. Some of Israel's tribal and place names also started appearing in Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Northwestern India when Sargon II and Nebuchadnezzar exiled most of the Jews to that part of the world. The confusion about the origin of those tribal and place names will always exist as long as we stubbornly refuse to give the Indo-Hebrews their rightful place in history. The Aryans and Indo-Hebrews began to overrun parts of India and the Middle East around 2000 BC, perhaps more than a thousand years previously if there is any truth to the story about the progeny of Noah.

    Somehow, our brainwashed minds blank out the face that the Ancient Egyptian and Akkadian names for Hebrew, Habiru and Apiru were derived from Indo-Hebrew dialects and meant "Sons of Ophir." The truth about the origins of the Hebrews has been screaming in our faces for thousands of years, but our benumbed minds have chosen not to hear it.

    What Inferences Can You Draw From the Following List?
    .
    Well-Known Names in the
    Western World Equivalent Names in
    Indian Languages
    Minoa (Ancient Greek nation). Meena (Indian ancestors of the Minoans)
    Turbazu (Palestinian clan) Turvazu (Indo-Hebrew tribe)
    Kopt; Guptas (Ancient Egyptian dynasty) Gupta (Ancient Indian ruling dynasty)
    Saracens (Ancient Turks) Sauresena (Territory and people of Ancient India)
    Arabea (Arabs) Arabi(Original inhabitants of Indo-Hebrew Makran, now part of Pakistan)
    Islam (Mohammedan religion) Ishalayam (Temple of God)
    Khurus or Khouros (Powerful Arab tribe to which Mohammed belonged) Kurus (Ancient Indo-Hebrew tribe)
    Mecca (Islam's most sacred city.) Makka (Capital of Arabi Makran)
    Riyadh (Saudi Arabian capital) Ray (Wisdom) + Yuddha (Warrior)
    Mohamed (Father of Islam) Maha-Atma (Great Soul)
    Jidda (Saudi Arabian city) Juddha, Yuddha (Warrior)
    Cabul (Town in Israel) Kabul (Capital of Afghanistan)
    Bashan (Region of Jordan) Bazana; Vashana (Ancient capital of Gujarat)
    Manesseh (Territory and tribe of Israel) Manasa (Himalayan lake, near Mount Meru; also the name of a snake deity)
    Laish (City of Canaan) Laish (Town in Afghanistan)
    Cutha (Fort and city in ancient Southern Mesopotamia) Kuth; Cathia; Cutch (Part of Gujarat)
    Hellenes (Ancient people and territory in Greece) Hellenes; Alinas (People and territory of Ancient India).
    Javan (Father of Greeks; mentioned in Genesis). Yavana (Ancient Indo-Hebrew tribe)
    Iberia (Spain) Abhira (Indo-Hebrew nation)
    Brit (Great Britain) Bharat (True name of India)
    Angles (Ancient people of England) Anguli (Ancient people of India)
    Jutes, Jutis (Eastern tribe that invaded and settled in Europe) Yuddhi (Ancient Indian warriors)
    Goths (Eastern tribe that invaded and settled in Europe) Guti; Gauda (Ancient Indian tribe that migrated to the Middle East)
    Yemen (Arab country) Yamuna (River of India)
    Yehudi (Jewish People) Yutiya; Yah-Khuda (Sanskrit name of the Indo-Hebraic Yadus)
    Roma (Rome, Italy) Roma; Romaka (People and territory of Northern India)
    Dubai (Nation of Arab Emirate) Dwab (Territory of ancient Afghanistan)
    Sheba (Ancient Ethiopian kingdom) Siva; Sibi (Territory of ancient Yaudheyapura, India)
    Syria (Middle Eastern home of the ancient Jews) Suriya (Mythical Indian territory)
    Succoth (Place near Jordan and in Egypt) Sukhothai (Ancient Indian and Thai kingdom)
    Talmud (Written Jewish teachings) Tal-Mudra (Sacred Indian teachings written on palm leaves)
    Tallit (Jewish prayer shawl) Tal-Ata (Palmyra leaves worn on the shoulders as a raincoat)
    Kippot (Skullcap worn by Orthodox Jews) Kaparda (Hair top-knot once worn by the first ancestors of the Indo-Hebrews)
    Shalmanezer (Assyrian king who deported the "Lost Tribes" to India) Shalmanev (Tall, impressive person)
    Baal (Golden calf first worshiped by the Jews) Balesar (Holy bull worshiped in India)

    Linguistic Similarities Between Hebrew and Kashmiri

    Holger Kersten wrote in Jesus Lived in India,

    "The relation between ancient Israel and Kashmiri can most clearly be demonstrated linguistically. Kashmirian is different from all the other Indian languages, the origins of which are Sanskrit. The development of the language of Kashmir has been greatly influenced by the Hebrew. Abdul Ahad Azad writes, 'The language of Kashmir derives from Hebrew.' According to tradition, in ancient times Jewish peoples settled here, whose language changed into the Kashmirian of today. There are many Hebrew words that are quite obviously connected with the language of Kashmir." (pp. 68-69.)

    I have inferred from Kersten's comments that he believes Kashmiri did not spring from Sanskrit. I disagree. When I was culling out Hebrew words from Grierson's Dictionary of the Kashmiri Language, I discovered that there are many more Sanskrit words in Kashmiri than Hebrew terms. However, I do agree that the Hebrews made more than a notable contribution to this little-known tongue.

    "Since the Jews i.e. the Yedu tribes of Lord Krishna left the Dwarka region, the original Sanskrit that they spoke during Lord Krishna's time has undergone considerable change of pronunciation and admixture of words, so what was Sanskrit 5,742 years ago is now Hebrew." (World Vedic Heritage; by P. N. Oak; p. 530.)

    In the Spanish edition of the German author Siegfried Obermeir's book on Jesus' life in Kashmir, ?Murio Jesus en Cachemira? (Did Jesus die in Kashmir?), the author acknowledges the Sanskrit origins of the language.

    "One could perhaps ask whether the language called 'Kashmiri' could in some way be a close relative of Hebrew and Aramaic...The reply is a resounding 'no.' Kashmiri descends from Sanskrit. There exists only one explanation. The Jews who emigrated (to Kashmir) introduced their language there." (p.150.)

    Professor Fida Hassnain, a Kashmiri authority on the life of Jesus Christ in his country, wrote in A Search for the Historical Jesus, "Today the Kashmiri language contains 30% Persian, 25% Arabic and 45% words from Sanskrit and other languages, including 9% from Hebrew." (p. 10.) Professor Hassnain mentioned in his book an Aramaic inscription beside the ruins of Gondaphorus' castle in Taxila, which actually confirms that St. Thomas was there: "A highly regarded foreign carpenter, who is a pious devotee of the Son of God, built this palace of cedar and ivory for the great king." The phrase "Son of God" confirms that Jesus actually existed. A stone relief of Thomas stands near this inscription. Indian archeologists have confirmed this fact.

    Since the ancient Jews never forced their language on the peoples in their ambience, just their religion, I concur with authors Obermeir and Hassnain on this point.

    In old times, Kashmiri didn't exist as a distinct language as it does today. The Kashmiri historical treatises state that the Brahmans and Kashatriya castes spoke Sanskrit; the Vaishyas and the Sudras spoke a language called Ap-Abram-Sha, which was supposed to be a degraded form of Tamil. Was this the original Asura language, or, perhaps, prototypical Hebrew? Some Hindu scholars think so. Abraham was the father of several different peoples, religions, and Semitic dialects. Abraham's influence formed at least part of the foundations of Judaism, Greek and Roman religious practices, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, and others. When the "Lost Tribes" were taken to Northern India, they found a people with a similar religion, language, and cultural traits. It took no great effort for the "Lost Tribes" to assimilate completely. Later on, Hebrew, Dardic, Apabramsha, Sanskrit, Arabic, and other languages merged to form what we now call Kashmiri. Some scholars say that the Moslem invaders forbade the speaking of Apabramsha and Hebrew in Kashmir.

    The Buddhists say that the Abhiraans spoke "Abhira." The Yadavas, the actual proto-typical Hebrews still living in India, also claim to have spoken a language called Abhiri. "The Natyasastra of Bharata described the language...as Abhiri or Sabari. It is well known that Abhiri was the language of the Abhiras." (Yadavas Through the Ages, by Yadav Singh; Vol. II, p. 4.) Yadav Singh's opinion on this matter may prove to be correct. Even today, Israeli Jews whose roots sink deep into Israeli soil are called "Sabaras."

    I have taken from my Kashmiri dictionary a long list of words that are similar in pronunciation and meaning to Hebrew. I could have easily provided a list containing hundreds more, many of which I shall mention in later chapters. However, I hope that the following list will convince you that the Kashmiri language, one of the most little-known languages in the world, deserves more attention and study.

    Judaism and Shaivite Hinduism Share the Same Names for God.

    Judaism Shaivism
    Ish; Yish; Is; Isa; Issa; El; Al; etc.
    (Suffixes and prefixes for "God") The same in Shaivism
    Yahve; Jahve; Tseeva (God) Shiva; Shaiva; Siva (God)
    Elohim; Elokhim (God intellectualized) Lakhimi (Goddess of Prosperity); Lokhi; Lukh (Shiva)
    El Shaddai (The Almighty) Saday; Sada (Shiva)
    Ha-Kadosh (The Holy One) Hakh-e-Kheda (God's Duty)
    El Elyon (Possessor of Heaven and Earth) Il Layun (Absorption in God)
    Yesoda (Dual Sexual Nature of Life) Yeshoda (Shiva's Dual Sexual Nature)

    Similar sacred symbolism and iconography are associated with both the Hebrew Yah-Veh and the Kashmiri Shaiva: The Holy Trinity; the flame; the cherub; the guardian angel; the snake; the bull; blowing of bull's horn, etc.

    Hebrew and Kashmiri Cabalistic Terminology Is About the Same.

    Hebrew Kashmiri
    Ani (he spark of life) Agni (Vedic god of fire)
    Avoda (work; labor) Vud; Wud (skilled labor)
    Ayeen (void; non-being) Ayen (eternity)
    Cabala (acceptance) Cabul (acceptance)
    Guevara (force) Gav'r (surrounding and attacking)
    Keter (crown) Kash'r (crown of the head)
    Kijum (destiny) Ko-Yimi (path to death)
    Klim (nothing) Kholi (nothing)
    Malkuth (kingdom) Mulakh (kingdom)
    Nefesh (soul) Naph's (soul; spirit self)
    Sephiroth (spiritual energy centers) Sipath (spiritual energy centers)
    Yesu; Yesh; Yeh; Yahu; Yakhu; Yah; Yao; Ie
    (The Material Universe) The same as in Judaism
    Yesh me Ayeen (The Goal of Creation) Yech me ayen (Creation Fused to the Void)
    Zohar (brilliance) Swar; Svar (Heaven; light; brilliance)

    More Linguistic Proof of the Linkage Between India and the Middle East

    My investigations into the Indian origins of the Jews and Holy Land place names are not the first to have been made. In the mid-part of the 19th century, the Identification Society of London, an organization dedicated to searching for the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, published the following list to prove that the Afghans, Tibetans, Kashmiris, and other Northwest Indian tribes are either descended from the Israelites or vice-versa. Not all the tribes, castes, and subcastes on their list have preserved their Jewishness. However, nearly all of them acknowledge their Jewish roots. As you read this list of names, remember that they exist in the area that Josephus said was peopled by the descendants of Shem. "These inhabited from Cophen, an Indian river (the Kabul river) and in part of Asia adjoining it. (Josephus...; Chapter VII-4.)

    Many scholars believe that the Dravidians could have been the ancestors of the prototypical Jews, the Meluhhans, who came from the Tibetan plateau or from the Turanian homeland of Central Asia - the area originally peopled by the progeny of Shem.

    As Kauleshwar Rai wrote in Ancient India,

    "...there was a time when the Dravidians inhabited the whole of India including Sind, Baluchistan and the Punjab. Gradually, they migrated to Mesopotamia also." (p. 19.)

    In the following list, all references to Indian tribes, castes, subcastes, and places will be listed at the left. Biblical and Hebrew names will be listed after each Indian word, accompanied by their biblical references. You will note that the comparative words are either identical or nearly identical. The differences are trivial. Even a non-linguist can notice that all these words sprang from the same source. The similarities are too abundant to be coincidental. Wanting to remain as conservative as possible, I present only a partial list. However, as conservative and brief as this list is, I believe I have presented enough examples to convince anyone that India did, indeed, at one time dominate in Bible Land.

    Tribes, Castes, and Subcastes

    Abri- Ibri (1 Chr. 24-27)
    Amal - Amal (1 Chr. 7:35).
    Asaul - Asahel (2 Chr. 17:18)
    Asheriya - Asher (Gen. 30:13)
    Azri - Azriel (! Chr. 5:24)
    Bal. - Baal (1 Chr. 5:5)
    Bala; Balah - Bala (Josh. 19:3)
    Bakru - Bokheru (1 Chr. 7:6)
    Baktu - Baca (1 Chr. 8:38)
    Banniya - Baana (1 Chr. 11:30)
    Bellu - Bela (Gen. 14:9)
    Bera; Baru - Beerah (1 (Chr. 5:6)
    Basaya - Basseiah (1 Chr. 6:40)
    Beroth - Beeroth (2 Sam. 4:2)
    Bilgai - Bilgah (Neh. 12:5)
    Buhana - Bohan (Josh. 15:6)
    Buir - Beor (Ps. 23:4)
    Butt - Bath (1 Ki. 7:26)
    Caleb; Kleb - Caleb (1 Chr. 2:18)
    Dar; Dhar; Darku - Dor (1 Ki. 4:11)
    Dara - Dara (1 Chr. 2:6)
    Dum - Dumah (1 Chr. 1:30)
    Gabba - Geba (Josh. 18:24)
    Gaddar - Gedor (1 Chr. 4:4)
    Gadha - Gad (1 Chr. 2:2)
    Gaddi - Gaddi (Nu. 13:11)v Gani; Gani - Guni (1 Chr. 1:40)
    Gareb - Gareb (1 Chr. 7:13)
    Gomer - Gomer (Gen. 10:2)
    Hahput - Hatipha (Neh. 7:56)v Iqqash - Ikkesh (1 Chr. 11:28)
    Ishai - Ishui (1 Sam. 14:49)
    Israel - Israel (Gen. 32:28)
    Kahan Masu - Kahana; Kan, Kanah (Josh. 19:28)
    Kalkul - Calcol (1 Chr. 2:6)
    Kanaz - Kenaz (Ju. 3:9)
    Kar - Careah (2 Ki. 25:23)
    Karrah - Korah (Nu. 26:9)
    Kaul - Caul (Isa. 3:18)
    Kadu; Kaddua; Khadu - Cauda (Act. 27:16)
    Kotru - Keturah (Gen. 25:4)
    Laddu - Lud (1 Chr. 1:17)
    Lavi; Laveh - Levi (1Chr. 2:1)
    Magar - Magor (Jer. 22:3)
    Mahlu - Mahali (Ex. 6:19)
    Maikri - Machir (Josh. 17:1)
    Malla; Maula - Maaleh (Josh. 15:3)
    Mallak - Mallouck (1 Chr. 6:44)
    Matri - Matri (1 Sam. 10:21)
    Meresh - Meres (Esther 1:14)
    Mir - Mearah (Josh. 13:4)
    Mahsa; Mahsi - Massah (Ex. 17:7)
    Moza - Moza (1 Chr. 7:36)
    Musa - Moses
    Nehru - Nahor (1 Chr. 1:26)
    Opal; Upal - Ophel (2 Chr. 28:3)
    Pareh - Paruah (1 Ki. 4:17)
    Phalu; Pau - Phallu; Puah; Pua (Nu. 26:23)
    Poot; Put - Phut; Put (a Chr. 1:8)
    Raina - Rinnah (1 Chr. 4:20)
    Raphu - Raphu (1 Ki. 11:23)
    Reshu; Resh; Reshi - Rhesa (Luke 3:27)
    Reu; Reu-wal - Reu (Gen. 12:18)
    Reual - Reuel (Nu. 2:14)
    Sachu - Sechu (1 Sam. 19:22)
    Sam - Shem (Gen. 5:32)
    Sapru; Sapra - Saphir (Mic. 1:11)
    Seh - Siah (Neh. 7:47)
    Shahmiri - Shamir (1 Chr. 24:24)
    Shaul - Shaul (1 Chr. 4:24)
    Shavi - Shaveh (Gen. 14:17)
    Shora - Sherah (1 Chr. 7:2)
    Shuah - Shuah (1 Chr. 4:11)

    Posted 10 months ago on 28 Jul 2011 19:39 #
  2. NNL
    member

    Hmm makes a lot of sense now dunnit ?

    Posted 10 months ago on 28 Jul 2011 19:39 #
  3. @NNL
    Interesting! Though many questions remain unanswered. The following article supports what you say above:

    In 1979 the Oriental Institute at Baroda published a paper entitled "The Hebrews belong to a branch of Vedic Aryans." This was a follow-up to a previous article on the same topic published by the same author, Prof. Madan Mohan Shukla, in the Vishveshvaranand Indological Journal in 1976. The basic thesis of these papers is that the Hebrews represent an offshoot of Vedic Brahmins. It may be instructive to review Shukla's papers as they serve to illustrate the common origin of the Jews and Brahmins. As Shukla's papers are very difficult to obtain both within and outside India, and are virtually out of reach for laypersons, I am reproducing extensive tracts from them for reference purposes.

    1. VOCABULARY
    One of Shukla's strong points is the considerable vocabulary shared by Hebrew and Sanskrit. Indeed, M.M. Shukla has concentrated on providing a large list of of words which are common to Hebrew and Sanskrit. Thus, he provides the following examples:

    "The word, 'Svah' means 'heaven' or 'paradise' in Sanskrit. This word, written as 'svam' may assume the form, 'Sam-yim' which means, 'sky' and/or 'heaven' in Hebrew, while it may become 'Asvah' under the influence of the principle of vowelization. Sometimes, the sound 'a' may change to 'ya' and thus, the derivation, 'Asvah' or 'Asuah' may change to 'Yasuah' which is nearer to a Hebrew word, 'Yasuah' (salvation).... It may be mentioned that 'Appa' is a Marathi word. The derivation 'Appa' may further change to 'Abba', which is a Hebrew word... Now let us consider the root - word 'Svas'. It may change first to 'Vas' and thence to Bas or 'Bes' which is a Hebrew word though with different meaning, ie. 'daughter'." (Shukla 1979, p.45)
    He also suggests that Surios gave rise to Kurios, or Kur (ibid., p.48) Shukla notes that 'Abru' and 'Uparohita' exist in Persian and Avadhi Hindi, distinct from Skt. bhru and purohita (Shukla 1979, p.44)

    Describing the process of vowelization, he notes, "the Punjabis would pronounce the words station, putra and Krsna as satation, puttar, and Kishan respectively." (Shukla 1976, p.41)

    Building upon this, he writes, "the word Joasava may be transformed into Joasaph, from which the derivation of the word Joseph is a simple matter. Thus we can see that the Biblical name Joseph can be derived from an ancient Indian name, jayasva." (Shukla 1976, p.42)
    Continuing in this line, he notes, "Adam. This word seems to have been derived from the Sanskrit word A-dityam, from the Vedic pronunciation of this word as A-ditiam." (Shukla 1976, p.45)

    In addition, "The meaning of the root-word as in Sanskrit is 'to eat', and 'to enjoy' or 'to be merry'. Hence if we pronounce the term upasana as 'upasana', then it would mean, 'Eating before God', and 'Being merry before God.'" (Shukla 1976, p.46)

    Another striking similarity exists with regard to script: "Now, the Hebrew script, like those of Arabic and Kaithi, does not use the word signs to indicate the pronunciation of its consonants." (Shukla 1976, p.44).

    2. PRIESTHOOD
    One of the strongest points for a common Brahmin-Jewish origin is the fact that in both communities have been endogamous priests from the earliest times of their recorded history: "Chosen People of God: It may also be observed in this respect that the Hebrews, as well as their Indian counterparts, Brahmins, consider themselves as the "Chosen People of God". The Hebrews started their corporate career in history as a "Kingdom of Priests" (Exodus/19/6). Likewise, the Brahmins have also been a "Community of Priests" since the dawn of their history." (Shukla 1979, p.54)

    The colonialists were the first to notice the similarity between Brahmins and Jews, namely that Brahma not only corresponds with Abraham, but that his consort Sarasvati corresponds to Sarah. Shukla also notes the story in Genesis 29, 32-33, 20/12.

    3. BIBLICAL FIGURES
    Citing his own work 'The Holy Bible - A Source book of Ancient Indian History', a paper submitted to All Indian Oriental Conference (1976) held at Dharwar, he notes that "We have already tried to equate Brahma, Sarasvati, Manu and Bali with the Biblical Abraham, Sarai, Noah and Peleg." (Shukla 1979, p.53) Not only that, but Shukla holds that the Jewish Laban and Brahmanic Lavana coincide:
    "It is noteworthy to note in the above context that the sister of Lavana on the Indian side becomes the daughter of Laban in the Biblical account. It may also be mentioned in this respect that while Sarasvati is said to be the daughter of Brahma in accordance with the Indian tradition, her Biblical counterpart, Sarai, has been described as the sister of Abraham. In this context, we would like to remind our readers of a previous discussion of 'Svas', the root-word of the Sanskrit 'svasar' (sister) which becomes 'Bes' to mean 'daughter' in the Hebrew language." (Shukla 1979, p.54)

    Equally striking is Shukla's derivation of 'Mary' from 'Matri': "the words 'Mary' and 'Mariam' could be derived from a Sanskrit word, matr, meaning 'mother'." (Shukla 1976, p.42)

    "Similarly the word, 'Mari' or 'Mary' may also be derived from Sanskrit 'Matri'." [and Shukla notes that Mary is worshipped as a mother goddess.]... "The word Adam is derived from a Hebrew word, 'Adamah' which means 'the earth'. Similarly the Skt. 'Adityam' is derived from 'Aditi' which also means the Earth. Hence the primary meaning of both the words, 'Adam' and Adityam would be 'earthly one'. (Shukla 1979, p.47)
    His papers provide detailed etymologies of the word 'Abraham':

    "The word 'Adam' can also be derived from Sanskrit 'Adityam' with the help of the rule of haplology also. Haplology is the name given by Bloomfield to the phenomenon where of the two similar syllables following each other, one is dropped. The word 'Adityam' will change to 'Adam' under the influence of this rule in the following way: -
    Adityam -> Adatam -> Adadam (t -> d) -> Adam (Haplology)
    It would be interesting to note here that the Sanskrit 'Adityam', represented by the same rule would change to 'Aton':

    Adityan -> Aditan -> Atadan (d -> t) -> Atan ->: Aten /Aton (Shukla 1979, p.48) This is interesting, for it provides an Indo-European derivation for the Egyptian God Aton.
    Moreover, "the Vayu Purana mentions Manu as Bharata" (Shukla 1979, p.56)
    Intriguing is Shukla's derivation of Rcam: "We may consider another Sanskrit word, 'Rcam' which may become Arcam and then 'Aleichem' (r -> l) which is a Hebrew word." (Shukla 1979, p.46)

    Shukla also provides certain other etymologies, and repeatedly derives Adam from Adityam, and Mary from Matr (Shukla 1979, p.46) He also postulates a derivation of Gr. Adonis from Aton, and notes that Heb Adonay -> Lord. (ibid., p.48).

    "It can be shown that the Hebrew word, 'Elohim' can be derived from the Skt. 'Brahma':
    Brahma -> Ibrahim (rule of vowelization) -> Ibrahim (rule of stress) - > Ilohim (r -> l) -> Elohim
    Hence the expression 'Adonay Elohim; becomes equivalent to the Skt. 'Aditya-Brahma'." (Shukla 1979, p.48)
    Furthermore, he notes, "Savitr -> Savitru (r -> ru) -> Sabiru (v -> b) -> Habitru (s -> h)" -> Habiru -> Habiru -> PR Egyptian, Apiru, Ibru, Ibri, Ibrin." (Shukla 1979, p.51)
    Another etymology is: (Shukla 1979, p.53)
    Iksvaku -> Issvahu (no k) -> Issahu (va -> a) -> Ishak, Isaac.
    Further, Shukla writes, "It may also be mentioned here that Satarupa, the name of the daughter-wife of Manu, is also one of the names of the daughter-consort of Brahma" (Shukla 1979, p.53) From this we may note the case of Noah's daughters and Manu, the flood survivor.

    Another interesting derivation is also supplied: "Krsna -> Christ. We know that the Bengali pronounciation of the word Kr.s.n.a is Kriste. 'Christo' or 'Christ' is only a matter of spelling." (Shukla 1976, p.42)
    Moreover, "Yehasua has been derived from a Sanskrit word, Yasasva." (Shukla 1976, p.42)

    It would also appear that Jehova is also related to a Sanskrit word: "This word [Jehova] could, however, be equated with the Vedic word jahvuh, which may be considered, grammatically, both as an adjective and a proper noun. In the former sense, the word, jahv.uh has been used at least four times in the R.gveda. Thus, it has been used as an {p.44} attribute of Lord Agni (RV 3.1.12), as an attribute of Lord Indra (RV 8.13.24), as an attribute of Lord Soma (RV 9.75.1) and as an attribute of Lord Agni (RV 10.110.3)."

    4. BHARATA, IBHRI, IBERIA HEBREWS
    One of Shukla's most striking points is his discovery of an etymological connection between the words 'Hebrew' and 'Bharat':

    "Hebrews and Rigveda: Let us first understand the real nature of the Rig Veda. As observed by Sri D.P. Mishra, "Both Devdasa and Sudasa belonged to the tribe of the Bharatas or T?tsu-Bharatas and won a number of victories over their Dasa and Aryan enemies. It is their wars and victories which have been repeatedly sung by their priests in the Rig Veda, and we have therefore no hesitation in naming it as (p.56) 'Bharata-Veda' or the Veda of the Bharatas and the Bharatas themselves as the Rigvedic Aryans. If the Rigveda supposed to deal with the entry of the Aryans into India, we would like to argue that it deals only with the entry of Bharatas ..." 34 [34. Studies in the Proto-History of India", D.P. Mishra, p.133]" (Shukla 1979, p.55)
    Further, "Bharata was the first king according to Jaina traditions" (Shukla 1979, p.56)

    "Now let us consider the word "Bharata'. This word is formed from the Sanskrit 'Bhara', which under the sway of the rule of vowelization (Prothesis), may assume the form 'Ibhar', 'Iber', 'Ibhray', 'Ibhri', 'Ibri', 'Ibrini' etc. which have been equated with the term Hebrew." (Shukla 1979, p.56) He then continues:
    "[T]he Hebrews may be related to the Rigvedic Aryan tribes of Bharatas ... In this way, we can confidently say that the statement 'Rigveda is essentially the Bharata-Veda', means that it is the 'Veda of the Hebrews'. It is hence no wonder to find close similarity between the Rigveda and the Holy Bible." (Shukla 1979, p.56)

    Intriguing is his statement that, "The famous Vrsakapi and some other allied Saktas can be best understood and appreciated only in the form of the Book of Esther." (Shukla 1979, p.56) "Further discussion of the term 'Hebrew': We have mentioned earlier that another meaning of the term Savitr (the Sanskrit form of the term Hebrew) is Brahmana. Now let us consider the word 'Brahmana'. If we remove the suffix 'mana' from this word, then it becomes 'Brah', which, if pronounced repeatedly, gives the word, 'Habra' which is nearer to the word 'Hebrew'. Also that both the words, written without vowel signs, would give 'BRH' and 'HBR' respectively. The similarity is evident.

    It would be interesting to note another Sanskrit word, 'vipra' (a synonym of 'Brahmana') in the same connection. The word 'vipra' becomes 'Ipar' in colloquial Marathi. Now consider the word 'Ipar'. This word may assume the forms 'Iber' (p -> b), Ibri, Ibhray, Ibrani, etc. and, on being subjected to the reverse operations of the rules of prothesis and anaptyxis in succession, would reduce 'Pr' to 'Prm', which we have already shown to be the [other form] of Hebrew'. This leads us to the conclusion that the Hebrews can be identified unhesitatingly with these Indian Brahmins who had migrated from India in the very early dawn of the Vedic period." (Shukla 1979, p.54)

    The rule of prothesis Shukla describes as the process of vowels developing before consonants, eg. Skt. rudhira, rajah, laghu, nr, nakha, naman which he claims led to Greek eruhtros, erobos, elakus, aner, onuch, onoma (ibid, p.44). The rule of anaptyxis is the insertion of vowel betwen combination of words (ibid, p.44).
    Also, in both Avestan and Avadhi Hindi, the words Manthara and Manthra are used, and not the Sanskrit mantra (Shukla 1979, p.47).
    Finally, he notes, "We have derived the word 'Hebrew' from the Sanskrit word, 'Savitr' (Shukla 1979, p.52)
    More controversial would be Shukla's following statement:
    "On the basis of the above since some similiarity of Jews and Arabs Sabeans."

    5. CUSTOMS
    Describing the strength of his evidence, Shukla notes, "Sometimes, these evidences become so strong as may lead one to suspect that the Hebrews might have really been an offshoot of Vedic Aryans." (Shukla 1976, p.41)
    Some of his strong evidence relates to common customs:
    "It may also be mentioned here that like a devout Jew, a devout Hindu is also required to pray three times a day, morning, afternoon and evening (traikalika-sandhya).
    To cite still another similarity in religious practices between the Hindus and the Jews, Hayyim Schauss notes in his Jewish Festivals, p.64: "When all is ready, the Samaritans form groups about the {p.47} sacrificial animals, and after uttering the prescribed blessings, fall upon the roast meat, pulling it hastily to pieces with their hands. Portions are brought to the women and children in the tents. Everybody eats rapidly and in twenty minutes all that is left is a mound of bones."

    Here it is worthwhile to note: (a) Though turned largely vegetarians now, the Brahmins of India present almost similar scenes of eating hastily in their religious and ritual grand-feasts.
    (b) Like Hebrews, the Hindu womenfolk also sit in seclusion to eat their share in their public feasts.
    (c) Any person, who eats too rapidly (hurridly, impatiently), or too much, is called a 'haboru' in the Hindi language, particularly in the Avadhi dialect... The resemblance between the words Hebrew and Haboru is particulary striking" (Shukla 1976, p.46-47) "there is a strong case to suspect or speculate that either the Hebrews really belong to a branch of Vedic Aryans, or that they had been in direct touch with the latter at some remote and unrecorded period of their history." (Shukla 1876, p.47)

    6. ANTHROPOLOGY
    Citing evidence from anthropology for his thesis, Shukla notes:
    "The above discussion also leads us to the conclusion that the term 'Bharatavarsa' (-> India) actually means 'the land of the Hebrews', a conclusion which is fully supported by the observation of Prof. S.K. Chatterji that, "the third Mediterranean strain, the so-called 'Oriental' one, commonly miscalled the Semitic or Jewish, with a pronouncedly long nose and fair in skin, is found in the Punjab, in Sind, in Rajputana and in Western UP, and .... in other parts of India" [R.C. Majumdar, ed. Vedic Age, 1965, p.145-6]" (Shukla 1979, p.57)
    To this we may add the brachycephaly common to both Jews and Brahmins.

    7. SABEANS
    Shukla agrees with the generally accepted concept of a common bond between Jews and Sabaeans or Yemenites:
    "Now, let us consider the word, 'Sabean'. We have already mentioned that 'Savi' is the root-word of the term 'Savitr' and hence the term 'Sabean' can be shown to be the equivalent of the word, 'Savitr', ie. Hebrew. What we mean is that the Sabeans and the Hebrews were 2 twigs of the same branch." (Shukla 1979, p.55)

    8. COW-WORSHIP
    It may be instructive to cite additional facts in favour of the common origin of Jews and Brahmins which have arisen after Shukla's work. One striking common feature linking Brahmins with Jews is that of cow-worship. When Moses descended from Mt. Sinai, he found the Jews worshipping the golden calf. Likewise, "Ex. xxxii. attributes the making of a golden calf to Aaron at Mount Sinai," and "Jeroboam, in making the sanctuaries of Beth-el and Dan the recipients of his royal patronage, placed in them images of Yhwh made of gold in this calf form, the fame of which went far and wide (compare I Kings xii. 23; II Kings x. 29; II Chron. xi. 14, 15)." (Jastrow Barton 1906) Cow-worship was common amongst Hebrews:

    "Among the Hebrews, as among the other agricultural Semites, the bull was associated with deity in a sacred character (see Ox). The form in which this thought found expression in Israel was in their representation of Yhwh by an image of an ox or bull made of gold (compare I Kings xii. 28)." (Jastrow Barton 1906).

    There was also a "representation of Yhwh by an image of an ox or bull made of gold (compare I Kings xii. 28)." Finally, "the twelve oxen on which rested the great laver in the Temple of Solomon (I Kings vii. 25; II Kings xvi. 17; Jer. lii. 20) are regarded as evidence that there was some sacred character attached to the bull," [ibid.].
    The sacredness of the cow is likewise a fundamental part of Brahmanism:
    "Dying, without the expectation of a reward, for the sake of Brahmanas and of cows, or in the defence of women and children, secures beatitude to those excluded (from the Aryan community, vahya.)" [Manu, X.62]
    "I call on you the Sons of Dyaus, the Asvins, that a dark cow to my red kine be added." [Rig-Veda, Book X, Hymn 61].
    "He shall not touch with his foot a Brahmana, a cow, nor any other (venerable beings)." [Apastamba, Prasna I, Patala 11, Khanda 31]

    9. MOON-WORSHIP
    However, in his section on "Sun-worship", M.M. Shukla has made a mistake, for it is moon-worship which links Jews and Brahmins rather than sun-worship. Selenolatry (moon-worship) was common to both Brahmans and Jews. Sun-worship is a natural outgrowth of a cold northern climate, where the nourishing warmth of the Sun is considered the bringer of life. It is hence a characteristic of Indo-European populations, compare the Ahura Mazda of Zoroastrianism, the Mithra of Mithraism, Sol Invictus of Rome, Asshur of the Assyrians, and the Surya of the Sauras of India.
    By contrast, moon-worship is a natural phenomenon of warm and desert regions, where it symbolises the refreshing coolness of the night, the opposite of the harsh and inhuman desert day. It thus arose amongst the Sumerians, where the capital was "Ur, the central home of the Semitic moon-cult" (Waddell 1929, p.388). The Old and New Testaments bear ample testimony to selenolatry amongst Hebrews (Deut. xxxiii. 14; Jer. vii. 18, xliv. 17; Job, xxxi. 26-27;, Judges viii. 21, 26; Isa. iii. 18; Cant. vi. 10; Ps. lxxii. 5, 7, lxxxix. 37; Isa. xiii. 10 xxiv. 23; Joel ii. 10, ii. 31; Amos vii. 5; I Sam. xvii. 14).
    The Jewish Encyclopedia further demonstrates selenolatry amongst Jews:

    "In Job (xxxi. 26 et seq.) there is an allusion to the kissing of the hand in the adoration of the moon ... Thus, the fact that Terah, Abraham's father, had lived first at Ur of the Chaldees, and that later he settled at Haran (Gen. xi. 31), two cities known from Assyrian inscriptions as places of moon-worship, shows that Abraham's parents were addicted to that form of idolatry ... The golden calf, Hommel declares, was nothing more than an emblem of the moon-god, which, in the Assyrian inscription, is styled 'the youthful and mighty bull' and the lord of the heavenly hosts (comp. "Yhwh Zeba'ot," which term is intentionally omitted from the Pentateuch). He assigns the same character to the two calves made by Jeroboam several centuries later (I Kings xii. 28) .... The close similarity between the ancient Hebrews and the southern Arabs has led Hommel furthermore to find allusion to moon-worship in such Hebrew names as begin with "ab" (-> "father"), as in "Abimelech" and "Absalom," or with "'am" (-> "uncle"), as in "Amminadab" and "Jeroboam," because these particles, when they appear in the names of southern Arabs, refer to the moon." (Seligsohn 1902, p.528)

    The reappearance of the moon is sanctified, like the entrance of the Sabbath or festivals, by the recitation of benedictions known in liturgy as "K.iddush ha-Lebanah" or "Birkat ha-Lebanah."

    Sinai is likewise a centre for selenolatry: "Those scholars who incline to establish a connection between moon-worship ("Sin" -> "moon") and the monotheism of Israel ("Sinai") find a corroboration of their theory in the fact that Abram's original home was the seat of the worship of Sin." (Hirsch 1902, p.380)

    'India' and 'Hindu' are likewise derived from Indu, the name of the moon-god, also called Soma. The Somanath temple in Gujarat is dedicated to the moon-god. In the name of Rama, Rama-Chandra, the suffix Chandra is derived from the Semitic 'Sin'. Parashu-rama, 'Rama with the Axe', one of the incarnations of Vishnu, is the foremost deity for many Brahmins; the Parashu-rama is derived from Param-Sin, a title of the Moon God Sin. Thus both Ramas are votaries of the moon.

    Another common point shared by Jews and Brahmins is the concept of negative memories regarding "Asuras". Historians have long wrestled with this question, as to why the "Asuras" are treated with such fear in the Vedas. However, this fear of Asuras amongst Brahmins becomes understood when one considers that the Assyrians deported the Jews. If the Brahmins share a common descent with Jews, it is only natural that they preserve in their collective memory a negative conception of their oppressors. Another 'mystery' is solved.

    10. STAR OF DAVID
    Mysteriously, the Star of David is common to both Judaism and certain forms of Tantrism in India, as noted by Barbara G. Walker:
    "The familiar design of two interlocked triangles is generally supposed to have represented the Jewish faith since the time of David, or Solomon; therefore this hexagram is known as Magen David (Shield of David), or the Star of David, or Solomon's Seal.... {p. 402} The downward-pointing triangle is a female symbol corresponding to the yoni; it is called 'shakti.' The upward-pointing triangle is the male, the lingam, and is called 'the fire' (vahni). ... Cabalists used the hexagram as Tantric yogis used it, to represent the union of God with his Female Power, Shekina, the Jewish form of Shakti-Kali." (Walker 1983, p.401-402) The oldest undisputed example of the six-pointed star, as recorded in the Encyclopedia Judaica, is on a seal from the seventh century B.C.E. found in Sidon north of Tyre and belonging to one Joshua ben Asayahu, the name indicating that the owner was Jewish. In the Second Temple period, the hexagram was often used alongside the pentagram (the five-pointed star), and is found in the synagogue of Capernaum (second or third century C.E.). This is before the attested appearance of the Tantric six-pointed star, indicating that it is derived from the Jewish Star of David. Perhaps it was imported via Kabbalic sects. Be that as it may be, this indicates a common origin of Jews and Brahmins.

    11. Conclusion
    Hence, there are several features which link Jews and Brahmins, indicating a common origin. From this M.M. Shukla and his followers would have the Jews descended from Vedic Brahmins, while the present author and other researchers would have the Brahmins descended from a "Lost Tribe of Israel". Whatever the details, Shukla's detailed researches assist in the establishment of a common origin of Jews and Brahmins. We may thus conclude with the words of the Enlightenment researcher Godfrey Higgins (1772-1833):
    "Now, what am I to make of this? Were these Brahmins Jews, or the Jews Brahmins?" ("Anacalypsis", Vol.I, p.771, cited in Matlock 2000, p.70)

    Dr. Samar Abbas, Aligarh, India
    http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/connections/Hebrews-and-Vedic-Brahmins.php

    Posted 10 months ago on 29 Jul 2011 4:45 #
  4. Adonis
    Member

    It seems to be pretty ridiculous "research". Godfrey Higgins is quite clearly an idiot and his whole thesis is pot-marked with holes.

    For example, Takht Suleman is not in Kashmir but near Zhob in Baluchistan.

    Mahmud Ghaznavi did not fight a battle with a "hindu" prince named Daud who was defending lahore. It was actually the battle for Multan which was at that time ruled by Qaramata, a heretic sect of arabs, and the ruler's name was Daud.

    And the supposed similarity of words is so far fetched, it is laughable. Such remote "similarity" can even be found between language of Incas in South America and Arabs. This does not mean that that Incas are a lost branch of Arabs.

    These imaginary similarities are being created since India and Israel started close relations. To give it a tone other than Muslim-enmity, a historic link to the relationship is being manufactured, which actual anthropologists and historians are not taking much seriously.

    Posted 10 months ago on 29 Jul 2011 5:59 #
  5. gv
    Member

    utter gibberish...... what a waste of time..

    Posted 10 months ago on 29 Jul 2011 9:27 #
  6. Prehistory. Not all is gibberish. As I have mentioned, both articles raise a lot of questions,and they will perhaps remain unanswered cuz, IT is being used as a tool to falsify history. Some civilizations are doing their best to prove they were the first. Both posts, by NNL and me are but theories posted by researchers who thought their views should be published. Now it is up to us to agree or disagree!

    Posted 10 months ago on 29 Jul 2011 10:42 #
  7. scindian
    Member

    Interesting !

    Research but statically non-significant
    one cant find the origin of any race through tracing oral myths and there must be some genome mapping and phenotype similarities among populations.

    Matching few words of two languages out of Millions of words is not significant thing.

    Posted 9 months ago on 31 Jul 2011 9:18 #
  8. scindian
    Member

    How ever topics is very interesting because upto now thousands of Jew origin people has been air lifted ti State of Israel from india, more recently more 500 persons has left karachi for Israel during 2002

    Posted 9 months ago on 31 Jul 2011 9:21 #

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