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Pictures: New look around Grand Mosque in Makkah

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  1. Pictures: New look of Grand Mosque in Makkah

    Glory to The Almighty (Allah O Akbar) or Spectacle of House of Saud

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    This is what used to be there just eight years ago, the al-Ajyad Castle, a Turkish remnance and a hill.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1748711.stm

    http://www.ottomansouvenir.com/General/Ecyad_Castle.htm

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    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 2:05 #
  2. Ashfaqlahore
    Member

    westerners building in western style building

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 2:24 #
  3. yes i agree .
    its a westernized style of architect .
    are they allowed to have attention diverted from the center of ISLAM 's beliefs ?? the Holy Kaaba Sharif ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 5:52 #
  4. What a MONSTROSITY!!!

    (And what an ugly design! Does it not look like a poor copy of Big Ben?)

    @azizi
    What used to be there 8 years ago was certainly magnificent. But this? (Barf!)

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 6:09 #
  5. The Muslim Nation
    Very good day,
    It is regrettable that the Masajid and other public buildings in Islamic countries depict Masonic symbols like Compass, Set Square, Pyramid, Union Jack/Sex Act, Crescent, Stars, Eagle, Goat, Lion, Obelisk, Beast image etc. (copy attached 7 pages). As an example, sex act/union jack (copy attached 1 page) is found to be emblazoned in the Masjid Nabvi and the Masjid Haram at prominent places. Surely, however, the use of such symbols is unintentional, manifesting lack of information about Freemasons, because no Muslim can, in his right mind, tolerate such symbols in his private home, not to speak of a holy place like a Masjid whose decorum is uppermost in the minds of all Muslims.

    Nimrod/Pharaoh/Queen Semiramas recognized various objects in the universe as gods and goddesses, associating each with different attributes, and not only invoked, when facing difficult situations, their help but also, otherwise, sought guidance from them, thus practicing Polytheism. Such beliefs/practices evolved, with the passage of time, into Masonic secular codes of capitalism which were gradually popularised in the name of art and culture. In the process, the Freemasons devised different methods for polluting the pious souls and tried to divert mankind’s attention away from the Ultimate Creator (Allah Almighty) but such devilish attempts have, as far as strong believers in one God are concerned, come to naught.

    Moon is a Masonic symbol which stood, in ancient Egypt, for growth and prosperity and became, in the Christian era, an emblem of the Virgin Mary. A careful study of history would, thus, reveal that the astrological signs/symbols reflect anti Islamic beliefs which view is supported by the worship, as a god, of the Moon done in the past by the Greeks and practiced at present by the Hindus (Somnat ka Mander).

    The Masonic anti-religion forces have now disguised themselves as devotees of the renowned artists Michael Angelo and Raphael with intent, through the representation of their art, to deviate the believers, in the name of fascination with art, from the right path.

    Accordingly, it is imperative, in the best interest of the Muslim Ummah, that a Fatwa be issued for the removal of such art, images and Masonic symbols etc from the masajid and public buildings all over the Islamic World. As to the Harmain Shareefain, in particular, services of the undersigned, who is blessed as a society architect, are available free of cost for identifying such objects.

    Sincerely yours,
    SYED AMMAR BUKHARI
    Cell: +92-321-2345617
    http://www.maemaar.org.pk
    http://www.maemaar.org.pk/securitycodeofcapitalism/index.htm

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 6:34 #
  6. kawwa chala hans ki chaal.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 6:55 #
  7. (Just for comparison...)

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 7:06 #
  8. Is there a semi-conscious message here: That the 'true' kaaba of 'muslims' IS London...

    Is the House of Saud saying "You know your Maker and we know ours! ;-)

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 7:11 #
  9. Good question, nota.

    And, please, not to overlook A.Aamer Bukhari's comment either. Freemasonry is on the rise. Very much so.

    Heartbreaking. Muslims, its high time our eyes were opened,

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 8:19 #
  10. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Watching all these 'tall' 'buildings' 'in the surrounding' of 'KAABA' makes me shiver with fear.

    It reminds me of the Hadees which warns us/Muslims of the time when there will be tall buildings 'in the surrounding' of 'KAABA'.

    I shiver with fear of this coming time. For it is a time of great slaughter of Muslims.

    P.S. In order to avoid this cursed time of the great slaughter of Muslims, there never! should be tall buildings in surroundings of 'KAABA'.

    I say demolish those tall buildings.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 9:42 #
  11. I say HK is a hundred per cent right. Demolish them straightaway.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 12:06 #
  12. Ashfaqlahore
    Member

    isn't it an irony that saudis who were nomads until last century have become rich and modern while the other muslim societyies that used to be cultured until last century have become backward.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 12:27 #
  13. "isn't it an irony that saudis who were nomads until last century have become rich and modern"

    Rich? Sure. Modern? Only a COMPLETE M*R*N would state such a thing...

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 13:42 #
  14. You witness the hadith prediction in action, bunch of herdsmen would compete in making the high rises.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 13:46 #
  15. Haris Khan and others,

    You made me search for the Hadith references:

    "He (the inquirer [Umar Bin Al-Khitab]) asked [to the Holy Prophet]: Tell me some of its indications [about the hour (of the Doom)]. He (the Holy Prophet) said: That the slave-girl will give birth to her mistress and master, that you will find barefooted, destitute goat-herds vying with one another in the construction of magnificent buildings."

    Note: There are very few Hadith references quoted from Umar Bin Al-Khitab (the 2nd Khalifa). This is one of them

    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/001.smt.html#001.0001
    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/001.smt.html#001.0004
    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/001.smt.html#001.0006
    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/002.sbt.html#001.002.047
    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/088.sbt.html#009.088.237

    Searched from the following link:
    http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/search.html

    Note to the Mods: Delete this comment if this topic is leading to a religious debates and thread is tageted for F&R forum.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 15:03 #
  16. Abdul Rahman
    Member

    The materialistic character of the Haram has started with the oil money.

    No wonder, Prophet SAS predicted that he is not afraid of poverty among Ummah but afraid of wealth that will devour the Ummah.

    During 70 and 80's the pilgrim was in state of shock from the atmosphere of wealth and greed. The honking of cars close to safa marwa overshadowed the ibadat of worshippers who trekked thousands of miles for a serene and peaceful atmosphere. Nowadays, when you walk out of Kabah you run straight to western outlets like "gucci", "christian dior", "armani" etc. How in the world a poor pilgrim can reconcile with those decadent named assocoiated with Western materialism.

    As one friend of mine from "Hijaz" who refused to be called as a "Saudi" said : Nothing good will come out of this country as long as the corrupt to the core royal family is present.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 15:34 #
  17. NNL
    member

    To the people who berate the Saudi Royal family and highlight all the evil in the Saudi people tend to forget things.

    1. They are bitching about the only country in the entire Muslim Ummah which has the balls to enforce Islamic Sharia as it is regardless of immense pressure of the Kuffar from the outside and the munafiqeen from within.

    2. Being a Saudi my friend is not the penultimate sign of being a Muslim. Cos if you take that Analogy to practice then Abu Jahl and Abu Lahb were both Saudis and thus Muslims. WHICH WE KNOW ISNT THE CASE.

    3. There are a lot of Ulema in Saudi who are literally outnumbered by the Munafiqeen 1/10,000. For every 1 Ulema there are atleast 10000 munafiqeen ready to cut their progress in enforcing the Sharia.

    4. Those who are jealous of all the wealth and prosperity of the Saudis and GCC countries and hold them accountable for all their problems fail to realise that despite everything that one claims to be happening as true it still doesnt change the fact that Rasool Of Islam was an Arab and the only reason the Jews didnt like him was that he wasnt from their clan. Are you sure you arent doing the same.

    5. Citing all the bad done by the Saudi Royal family doesnt take away the fact that you are ruled in your country by people who are worse than you ( probably not worse than you but anyways ) SO it takes great audacity to focus on someone's else problem and disown your own.

    6. There is one country in the Muslim Ummah where foreigners have been given power to lead religious affairs and correct the foundations of religion. Name the next country or rather race of people who actually did that ?

    And you still want to whine about the Saudis ???

    Look at yourself and your rulers and then you will the Saudi despite all the evil they may have in them to be way better than your own people.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 18:04 #
  18. @NNL
    What a STUP!D rant! Is it you talking or some Riyals? Your dad got an aqama or did you? I'll bet this is some dinars doing the talking -- nothing more ;-)

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 18:13 #
  19. What are the so-called 'custodians' of the holy places up to?

    Agree with nota. A cheap copy of the big ben indeed.

    They can't even boast about the architecture. No originality at all.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 19:12 #
  20. NNL - Saudis are a DISGRACE to the ummah. Having Sharia (genuine or not let's not get into that) in the country while siding with the forces of evil is pure HYPOCRISY.

    Backstabbers.

    And no , nobody's jealous' of their oil. Please dont be insecure.

    http://www.chemist2go.co.uk/i/products/eno.jpg

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 19:19 #
  21. Nota is right, NNL. Whatever you might say, KSA and GCC are indefensible. They are the best allies of the worst enemies of Islam. Leave them be and come over to our side, do.

    And please, whenever you run out of arguments, you remind us the Prophet (PBUH) was an Arab. You've done this to me several times already. As though we we were in any danger of forgetting. But he was not a Saudi, was he?

    Come on NNL. Use your native wit and critical sense over this. What we are being offered in our holiest place is a horror. At least accept that as a mistake.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 19:26 #
  22. supercreature
    Member

    This looks more like a Grand Hotel rather a Mosque.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Aug 2010 21:49 #
  23. Ashfaqlahore
    Member

    Grand mosque turns gothic

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 Aug 2010 17:45 #
  24. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @Azizi: Perhaps, that's not the right Hadees.

    Look in the program Mere Mutabiq - 24-Oct-2009 around the time reference 9:20 (9min, 20 seconds) for more info on this Hadees.

    This program is available online. If you can't find it, let me know. I'll upload it for you.

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 Aug 2010 20:09 #
  25. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    This is one of the videos I watch, this is one of the items I use, to consistently remind myself of ALLAH ALMIGHTY, of death, of the after-life.

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 Aug 2010 20:22 #
  26. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    The buildings on the holy places were built beatutifully during the Turkish regime. Now, the modern style constructions over the holy places are also good.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Aug 2010 7:44 #
  27. zingaro
    Member

    I could not understand the real purpose of this thread as the building under discussion is a hotel near Haram. They have shaped it as a clock tower and Quranic verses are written on the clock tower. Is the objection on constructing such a building in the proximity of Kaaba? or for giving it a look of clock tower?

    The Hadith which HK has quoted is correct and can be referred to the construction of buildings which are being built in KSA and other GCC countries.

    I also agree with Mr. Bukhari'c comments that Muslims must be very careful in choosing the designs.

    NNL ... I disagree with you .... The name Saudi Arabia is not historic but in the recent past adopted by the rulers. Prophet Mohammad (SAW) was born in an arab tribe but he was Rasool for the whole humanity and I believe you would have read his words that "Kisi arabi ko kisi ajmi pay koi bartari nahi". I don't want to go in details of the laws in KSA .. otherwise a lot can be said .. and it is no rule that if someone is thief then the other also has a right to steal ....

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Aug 2010 15:45 #
  28. d0ct0r
    Member

    Hariskhan@Posted 20 hours ago on 07 Aug 2010 20:09 #

    @Azizi: Perhaps, that's not the right Hadees.

    Look in the program Mere Mutabiq - 24-Oct-2009 around the time reference 9:20 (9min, 20 seconds) for more info on this Hadees.

    http://pkpolitics.com/2009/10/24/meray-mutabiq-24-october-2009/

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Aug 2010 16:20 #
  29. NNL
    member

    You can call whatever you want to regarding my post but it still doesnt change the fact that Saudi Royal Family isnt the epitome of Muslims yet they are far better rulers to their people than what we have as rulers.

    The amount of shirk and bidah taking place in our own backyard is enuf to wipe us all out of existence so we shouldnt be commenting on others

    The biggest reason the rest for the plight of Muslim suffering is the Muslim himself and its from Allah Azza Wa Jal that Muslims be kept that way. GCC or no GCC you would have been in the similar state regardless as Allah has Willed. A concept one should familiarize themselves with. .

    99% of the people when faced with a calamities in their lives believe that oh this is a test from Allah Azza Wa Jal failing to realize that what they are suffering from is not new from those before them had suffered when they disobeyed Allah Azza Wa Jal thus making it a punishment not a test.

    If by using the Arab vs Ajmi clause you think you can berate the Muslims of Saudi or their Ulema than go right ahead but let me warn you they are more in taqwa then you are so be very careful as Allah Azza Wa Jal hold more dear the pious ones. (Oh one more thing why were the

    A lot of people come and say Muhammad Sallaho Alayhi Wa Ala Alayhi Wasallam was for the entire Mankind. YEs He was but retards fail to see the next point which that the entire Mankind be like HIM (literally and figuratively).

    Anyone who thinks that i m in awe of Saudis and their Rulers. yes i am.

    Why

    I respect their Rulers as they have allowed the Sharia Law to prevail over all the laws. And the people cos they still have the courage to enforce religion in their country.

    I dont hold Saudis or anyone responsible for the reprehensible conditions of the Muslims except the Muslims themselves. Cos if that were the case that Saudis are to help to get rid of the poverty of Muslims then why were there 200 Sahabas Radhi Allah Unhu living in Masjid Nabvi due to extreme poverty. Why were there Sahaba Radhi Allah Unhu not having food for 3 days when Uthman AL Ghani and Abdur Rahman ibn Auf ( 2 people who were the most wealthiest people on the planet at that time) ? Why was Rasool Allah Sallaho Alayhi Wa Ala Alayhi Wasallam telling Abu Hurairah Radhi Allah Unhu that to be patient as he had also not eaten for 3 days ?

    Becos my friends Allah Azza Wa Jal is responsible for everyone's Risq not you not me not any White guy only Allah.

    If you are sitting in Fort Knox you will still die as a Beggar Cos Allah Azza Wa Jal Wills it.

    Read my points again and then think over them after your Salah and then ask Allah that I m cursing the people and the rulers of the only place where your Sharia is applied 60% am i right ?

    Saudis are full of faults they arent perfect Muslims but somehow Allah Has Given them Izzah !!! Think over it again Allah Has Given THEM Izzah why ? IS ALLAH PARTIAL ? IS ALLAH UNJUST ?
    If you think yes then please dont call your Muslim and go mess up some other religion.

    If no then think why is Allah Giving them Izzah ? Then look at Pakistan.
    Immediately after the Hijrah from India Pakistan prospered to heights unimaginable. The generation born to the migrated people rose to great heights and were better Muslims then the generation that came after them and the current one. Why ?

    Ponder my friends.

    Ramadan is almost upon us If you arent in Jannah and the rest of the World is then your life was a complete loss and if you are in Jannah and the rest of the World isnt then your life was a success.

    I will quote MG here use your native wit and critical sense on realizing the fact that regardless of all things bad that come from that Saudi nation still people give them respect.

    @ MG
    Yes i have to remind you every time cos you seem to forget that when you go after anything Saudi. I have to remind you not cos i have run out of arguments no no my friend i have to remind you that because amidst all the things evil you find in them you overlook the fact that they are after all the descendants of Rasool Allah and the Sahaba. Do they deserve respect because of this NO definitely not but are there people amongst them who have done a lot for this religion Yes therefore the respect comes in.

    You have a lot of interest in Geo-politics therefore you might understand this. Look the ME map right now and then mark all the Judeo=Christian forces and then mark all the munafiqeen forces ( including the enemies of Rasool Allah Sallaho Alayhi Wa Ala Alayhi Wasallam in his time and present i.e Persians, Rome and their offsprings) ITs the same map that was at the time of Rasool Allah and its the same now. Make comparisons my friend and I hope Allah will open your mind.

    May Allah protect us all from the evil of men and shaitan.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Aug 2010 20:08 #
  30. @NNL
    Sorry but what convoluted gibberish!

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Aug 2010 20:25 #
  31. Abdul Rahman
    Member

    Saudi is the only country in the world named after a dacoit tribe- Saud. That is why a real Muslim in that country once said: "I happen to be born in this country you call Saudi Arabia". He refused to call himself a "saudi" although born there. Jazeerat Al Arab should be the appropriate word he said.

    It should be recognised that the treacheous House of Saud paid allegiance to Mujahideen in the formation of an genuine Islamic State with Shariah. But once they grabbed power they shunted aside the clergy and proclaimed a Kingdom. You cannot compare them to other Muslim countries who are not claiming to rule as per Shariah. These saudis are making a mockery of Sharia. Shariah is abused and misused to silence any legitimate opposition and does not apply to the corrupt royals. The concentration camps in Saudi are full of "poor" citizens where as the royals go scot free for any crime.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Aug 2010 20:33 #
  32. d0ct0r
    Member

    ^ UAE rulers too were also dacoits(sea pirates) before they hit gold..

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Aug 2010 20:59 #
  33. NNL, Thanks for message. One thing I do promise, I'll think it over. But see what nota has to say or Abdul Rahman and dOctOr as well. I think their Islamic credentials are as strong as yours. What to make of it all? We have grown incredibly sectarian, all of us.

    Anyway, if the House of Saud is really descended from the Prophet (PBUH), then what are US soldiers doing in that country and why are they charged with the protection of Saudi rulers? Why is alcohol being sold in the Holy Land in the five star hotels, etc? All this is as bad as the shirk and bidah you seem to have saddled Pakistan with. I fear to say the spirit of Islam is more vibrant in any poor Pakistani than in the rulers of the House of Saud.

    As for Izzah, Allah Almighty tests Muslims in many ways, poverty is one, wealth is another. The Saudis have been given the latter. We have seen what they have made of it. If and when Allah Almighty wishes to act against them, He'll do so. It's not for us to say.

    Still, NNL, as promsied above, I'll keep thinking over your arguments. May Allah keep you safe and well.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Aug 2010 21:20 #
  34. Haris Khan et al,

    I could not find the appropriate Hadiths. Can someone help me find the quote mentioned by Dr. Shahid? I found the following site with the largest database:

    Google Search>> abdullah bin amr makkah canal mountain building site:http://www.usc.edu/

    According to Dr. Shahid Masood, the Hadiths was refered in “Lisanularab” (I could not find any reference to this book) with a quote from Abdullah Bin Amru (I could not find this personality either, might be Doc is referring “Abudullah Bin Amr [RadhiAllahAnhu]”) that When you see canal-like things carved through Makkah and When the buildings rise high to the mountain peaks of Makkah, think of the Hour is close.

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Aug 2010 5:38 #
  35. NNL, P.S. to my above post: Mulling over the geo-political implications you referred to, it suddenly came back to me that I've also heard the future described as a situation in which the children of Kisra face up to the children of Pharoah. When all's said and done, the two visions probably lead us both to the same place.

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Aug 2010 7:38 #
  36. EVOLUTION OF HUMAN CULTURE

    1) FAMILY CULTURE: from ADAM to NOAH
    (Peace be upon him) (Peace be upon him)

    2) TRIBAL CULTURE: from IBRAHEEM to DAWOOD
    (Peace be upon Them)

    IBRAHEEM (pubh) Versus NIMROD(Warrior against Lord)

    All human were speaking same language. Nimrod confused the language by adding present tense and it became language of BABYLON with three tenses. Whereafter all worldly rulers have been using three tenses in their languages.

    The Quran was revealed, in the Arabic language, in the Past and Future tenses alone and, therefore, is not allowed to be recited, during prayers, in any worldly language due to this incompatibility of tenses. However, many scholars, while interpreting the message of the Quran, confuse the meanings on account of the use, in their languages, of three tenses.

    NIMROD (Warrior against Lord) raised the Tower of Babel to compete with Bait-Allah (Makkah) built by IBRAHEEM and ISMAIL (Peace be upon them). While the builder of KAABA is called MAEMAAR and his followers are Believers, Nimrod, the builder of the Tower of Babel, and his followers are called FREEMASONS who have all along been trying to corrupt the believers in revealed religion by promoting such worldly ethics as compromise on don’ts like Free Sex, Alcohal, Gambling, Usury etc.

    (Tribal cum Agri-Culture): from SULEMAN to MUHAMMAD
    (Peace be upon them)
    3)AGRICULTURE: from Muhammad to 18th Century
    (Peace be upon him)

    4)INDUSTRY CULTURE: from 18th Century to 1998

    5)I.T. CULTURE: from 1998 to the End of the time.

    ARAB ORDER

    First Step:
    The location at Cairo of the ArabLeague Headquarters causes the confusion that Arabs are the descendents of daughter of the NILE. The pagan society, which has been evolved by the free masons and promotes free sex, traces genealogy by the mother. However, the religion of God traces genealogy, due to purity of sex, through the father. The Arabs are descendents of ISMAIL, resident of MAKKAH, who was the son of IBRAHIM and brother of ISAAQ.

    It is, therefore, advisable that the Arab League headquarter be shifted immediately to MAKKAH. Since, besides, the difference between Arabs and Non Arabs stands nullified after the Prophet’s sermon delivered on the occasion of his last Hajj, membership of the Arab League should be extended to all Muslim states, with simultaneous change of its name to Al-Jameeat-ul-Islamia.

    Likewise, the O.I.C. should, being a similar organization, be immediately merged into the proposed Al-Jameeat-ul-Islamia.

    Second Step:
    The Saudi Government should identify and rehabilitate the places where the MEETHAQ-ALMADINA and the HUDAIBIA-PACT were signed/solemnized. A MASJID with a conference hall should be built at the site of the HUDAIBIA PACT whose history should be recorded in prominent place. In case the site of MEETHAQ-ALMADINA falls inside the MASJID-ALNABVI, a suitable hall should be marked for the purpose. Otherwise, a MASJID and conference hall should be built on its site. It would be in the fitness of things that the Religious Leaders of Jews and Christians are invited to visit the site of MEETHAQ-ALMADINA where first ever treaty was signed.

    Third Step:
    The foundation of a new university (Jameah Khazaen Al-Ardh) should be laid on the site of BEIRO OTHMAN and the faculties of all subjects pertaining to the land resources (underground as well as surface) should be established there.

    Fourth Step:
    The prayer areas of the two holy Masajid should be divided each into five sections, namely Education, Justice, Defence, Commerce and Executive/Government. Besides, a set of five imams should be named to lead daily prayers in each Masjid whereby each imam would, while leading one of the five daily prayers, head one of the five FACULTIES. An imam must have the qualifications requisite for his FACULTY, besides being well-versed in the knowledge of the SHARIA and be named for a two-year tenure, including the first year as Naib Imam. While one of the Naib Imams should, on the occasion of Haj each year, be named from amongst the citizens of Saudi Arabia, four Naib Imams
    should be elected from among the citizens of other Muslim countries. The five Imams should elect one of them as AMEER every year and the Muslims performing Umra and Hajj should join the sections/faculties of their choice to develop contacts in their professions, thereby promoting Muslim brotherhood for sharing common cultural values and practices.

    Fifth Step:

    PREPARATION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF ECONOMIC MODEL

    As the capitalist, acting as promoter/administrator, invests a minimal/nominal amount of his own in the business (obtaining major funding at concessional interest rates) but is entitled to retain full profit and be liable, in the case of loss, only to the extent of his share holding, the underlying system is inherently oppressive and unjust. It is, therefore, time to introduce a new ECONOMIC MODEL for replacing the secular codes of capitalism which, due to its irrational structure, stands grounded since the very beginning of the 21st century.

    The banks secure deposits from the general public against promise to pay interest at fixed rates without guaranteeing the face value of the pertinent currency prevailing in the international market at the time the money was deposited. In case, therefore, of devaluation of currency, the depositors lose the net worth of their deposits to the extent of devaluation. As happened with the US $, while 87 cents of a $ were equal to one Euro in 2001, $ 1.4925 is equal to one Euro today. Practically, thus the $ has lost 58.29% of original worth. All this is a result of credit based economy and loan based investment.

    As far as the war on terror is concerned, its real cost has been passed on to the countries with US Dollar - based reserves or currencies but, interestingly, the currencies of most European NATO members were, in the year 2000, delinked from the Dollar by floating the Euro as a common EU currency.

    http://www.theradiantpath.com/

    Posted 1 year ago on 09 Aug 2010 7:54 #
  37. Waste of billion dallors,
    Saudi Royal family spend million dallors on Kaswa(Kabah cover)

    Posted 1 year ago on 10 Aug 2010 14:16 #
  38. Do you guys know, who are the builder of these buildings around the Harram?

    Our Beloved, "Bin Laden" Family..... I will post the picture of the company logo in couple of weeks....

    Posted 1 year ago on 10 Aug 2010 19:25 #
  39. KHAN_Sahib
    I know...but that kind of unnecessarily sidetracks the issue so I did not mention it.

    Posted 1 year ago on 10 Aug 2010 19:35 #
  40. Ashfaqlahore
    Member

    NNL is right. We can't blame the ruling family just because we don't like that country's life style. If saudis were unhappy they would have revolted by now. Look at how many times powerful countries like Russia, China, etc has seen revolts. Does any saudi group bomb any of the western shops? If saudi are not happy only then you can blame royal family

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Aug 2010 5:11 #
  41. Ashfaqlahore, Look: You talk of KSA's lifestyle. What on earth should that be? Islamic through and through. And that is what it is not. And yet they want to lay down the law to the rest of the huge Muslim population in the world. You talk of western shops in KSA. Is that what Islam asked us to do: set up western shops on the holy soil of Islam and serve alcohol in the big hotels, and, and, and. Read Anwar Rahman's post above, Our KHAN_Sahib also knows his Saudia. Perhaps he'll tell us once what he makes of that country.

    About Saudi dissident groups, they have all been exiled. You should hear them when they go out to demonstrate. You can be sure they'll make your ears ring. And I return to my original quarrel with the ruling house of Saud. Not only have they never done anything substantial for their Palestinian brethren. They work hand in glove with the enemies of Islam.

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Aug 2010 9:04 #
  42. @ Ashfaq
    As you have seen 'pure gold cover' in above video, shouldn't they need to donate this money to the poor muslims . "Kia Allah Naraz Hojaye Ga?" my question is that what is the diffrence between us and "them"?
    http://www.marbleartifacts.com/dress-jewellery.html

    Posted 1 year ago on 11 Aug 2010 15:53 #
  43. The Muslim Nation
    Very good day,
    It is regrettable that the Masajid and other public buildings in Islamic countries depict Masonic symbols like Compass, Set Square, Pyramid, Union Jack/Sex Act, Crescent, Stars, Eagle, Goat, Lion, Obelisk, Beast image etc. (copy attached 7 pages). As an example, sex act/union jack (copy attached 1 page) is found to be emblazoned in the Masjid Nabvi and the Masjid Haram at prominent places. Surely, however, the use of such symbols is unintentional, manifesting lack of information about Freemasons, because no Muslim can, in his right mind, tolerate such symbols in his private home, not to speak of a holy place like a Masjid whose decorum is uppermost in the minds of all Muslims.

    Nimrod/Pharaoh/Queen Semiramas recognized various objects in the universe as gods and goddesses, associating each with different attributes, and not only invoked, when facing difficult situations, their help but also, otherwise, sought guidance from them, thus practicing Polytheism. Such beliefs/practices evolved, with the passage of time, into Masonic secular codes of capitalism which were gradually popularised in the name of art and culture. In the process, the Freemasons devised different methods for polluting the pious souls and tried to divert mankind’s attention away from the Ultimate Creator (Allah Almighty) but such devilish attempts have, as far as strong believers in one God are concerned, come to naught.

    Moon is a Masonic symbol which stood, in ancient Egypt, for growth and prosperity and became, in the Christian era, an emblem of the Virgin Mary. A careful study of history would, thus, reveal that the astrological signs/symbols reflect anti Islamic beliefs which view is supported by the worship, as a god, of the Moon done in the past by the Greeks and practiced at present by the Hindus (Somnat ka Mander).

    The Masonic anti-religion forces have now disguised themselves as devotees of the renowned artists Michael Angelo and Raphael with intent, through the representation of their art, to deviate the believers, in the name of fascination with art, from the right path.

    Accordingly, it is imperative, in the best interest of the Muslim Ummah, that a Fatwa be issued for the removal of such art, images and Masonic symbols etc from the masajid and public buildings all over the Islamic World. As to the Harmain Shareefain, in particular, services of the undersigned, who is blessed as a society architect, are available free of cost for identifying such objects.

    Sincerely yours,
    SYED AMMAR BUKHARI
    Cell: +92-321-2345617
    http://www.maemaar.org.pk
    http://www.maemaar.org.pk/securitycodeofcapitalism/index.htm

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Aug 2010 7:07 #

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