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Pir Sibghatullah made 8th Pir Pagara

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  1. spruce
    Member

    KHAIRPUR: Pir Sibghatullah Shah Rashidi, commonly known as 'Raja Saein', the eldest son of Pir Mardan Shah, has been made new spiritual leader of Hur community, Geo News reported.

    Sibghatullah Shah Rashidi will be 8th Pir Pagara. He was elected Pir Pagara in the meeting of Khalifas of Hur community after the death of Pir of Mardan.

    http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-30587-Pir-Sibghatullah-made-8th-Pir-Pagara--

    Posted 4 months ago on 12 Jan 2012 9:17 #
  2. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    He must follow the footsteps of his great and greater grandfathers and do good for the Muslim community.

    Posted 4 months ago on 12 Jan 2012 10:11 #
  3. zaln
    Member

    چلو کسی نہ کسی درجہ میں پاکستان میں خلافت تو ہے

    Posted 4 months ago on 12 Jan 2012 10:14 #
  4. Khan saab
    Member

    He got the same mustache style. So he is following in his fathers footstep, very impressive.

    Posted 4 months ago on 12 Jan 2012 10:57 #
  5. zaln
    Member

    پیری مریدی میں چھپے وڈیرے کبھی لوگوں کو تعلیم نہیں دینگے کیونکہ تعلیم ان کی پرستش ختم کر دیگی

    Posted 4 months ago on 12 Jan 2012 16:47 #
  6. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    HF
    '
    e must follow the footsteps of his great and greater grandfathers and do good for the Muslim community.
    '
    What good his ancestors did ?

    Posted 4 months ago on 12 Jan 2012 17:04 #
  7. expakistani
    Member

    i bet its must be fun being Peer... i should start my own stuff, Good money in this business.

    Posted 4 months ago on 12 Jan 2012 17:11 #
  8. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    good money , mureeds and especially mreedani :)

    Raja Sian was in dubai for quite few years as he was not on good terms with his father. Used to stay 'tuunn' in the indian club .

    Posted 4 months ago on 12 Jan 2012 17:14 #
  9. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    Sharif Aadmi

    Read the history of Hurs and find what his ancestors did for the Muslim community. Find the meanings of the words "Pir Pagaro". Pagri was the symbol of their knowledge and their flag was the symbol of their jihad against the British. No other community gave such a tough time to the British like Hurs.

    Posted 4 months ago on 13 Jan 2012 9:48 #
  10. spruce
    Member

    HUR MOVEMENT:

    Hur movement was actually started in the days of Sibghtullah Shah Bad Shah.[1831-1779]and reached its peak in the days Sibghtullah Shah Shaheed Suraih Bad Shah, Hurs become active against britishers, so rulers sent every active person to Vasarpur district Ahmed Nangar for Jail in India.

    Sibghatullah Shah 1 provided forces to Syed Ahmed Shaheed to fight against Sikhs and since then these brave people are called as Hurs [free people] freedom struggle was practically started by Syed Sibghtullah Shah Shaheed Awal in 1246[Hijri].

    Pagaras' and their followers fought for freedom against British rulers and their supporters for 108 years from 1843 to 1951.

    In 1922 when Sibghtullah Shah II [Sarah Bad Shah] becomes Pir Pagara he was only 12 years old. Very soon he realized that British officer’s behavior towards Hur Jamat or Sindhi people was insulting and Humiliating, he resented and rose voiced against British rulers. He organized, encouraged and determined to continue struggle against British rulers. As a result Marsha law was imposed by British rulers to control hur movement. Pir Sahib made Grange Bungalow as his general head quarter. He with planning recruited his followers for armed struggle. They were trained for fight and to continue armed struggle. This act of Pir Sahib raised slogan “home land or death”. After the arrest of Pir Sahib Hurs increased their activities against Government.

    Hurs started attacking Police stations, Government buildings, Railway Stations, Telephone System and irrigation system to paralyze Government and to pressurize Government to release their spiritual leader. Government as a result started arrest of Hurs and their leaders. Governments established false cases against them and punished them heavily after summary trials.

    Pir Sahib had succeeded in telling his intensify their struggle and activities if he is arrested. Railway train Lahore mail was derailed by Hurs on 16th may 1942.
    When Hurs attacked army or police they raised slogan of “Bheg Pagara” . To crush Hurs, Grange Bungalow their center was bombarded and destroyed on 26th may 43. Lastly he was arrested on 24th October 1941 & was sent to seoni in India jail. Dargah Sharif & bungalow in pir Jo Goth were also destroyed in 1943.
    In 1942 the important leaders of hur Jamat were also arrested. Pir Sahib was brought back from Seaoni to Sindh in January 1943 and was arrested in Hyderabad central jail. The hurs made makhi forest as their base for activities. Government when failed to control struggle by land forces, started air bombing over grange bungalow, makhi forest and Dargah Sharif.

    Hurs were ordered them not to give daily attendance instead become absconder and to continue struggle and activities. Government ultimately arrested thousands of hur leaders along with their families and kept them in concentration camps [where attendance was taken in morning and evening].They were in camps till 1952 when the present Pir Sahib Pagara was crowned and Gadi was restored.

    Pir Pagara: some facts When colonial rulers of the subcontinent hanged Pir Sabghatullah Shah Rashidi (father of Pir Pagara) on March 20, 1943, in the Central Jail, Hyderabad, Sindh, and abolished his Gaddi (Spiritual Office), Pir Pagara Syed Shah Mardan Shah-II was hardly 15 years old.

    During the same year Dr Sir Ziauddin Ahmad, who was at that time the vice-chancellor of Aligarh Muslim University, took him and his brother to Aligarh.

    At Aligarh both the brothers stayed in English House which was a hostel established specially to house the sons of nawabs and rajas of the subcontinent. In 1946 again Dr SirZiauddin arranged for their education at England.

    Dr Qayyum Pasha, son-inlaw of Dr Sir Ziauddin Ahmad, went to England with Pir Pagara and his brother, through ship from Bombay, and stayed with them as their guardian.

    After the partition in 1947 it was the campaign launched by Pir Ali Muhammad Rashidi, through Sindh Observer, that in fact was instrumental in restoration of the Gaddi of Pir Pagara in 1952.[2]

    http://pirpagara.com/hur.htm

    Posted 4 months ago on 13 Jan 2012 13:20 #
  11. spruce
    Member

    ROLE IN ACHIEVING INDEPENDENCE & MAINTAINING INDEPENDENCE

    Pir Syed Sibghtullah Shah Shaheed started armed struggle against the British in the form of hur movement the rulers were so much scared of the movement that they assassinated Sibghtullah Shah Shaheed to control the movement .Thus Sibghtullah Shah Shaheed gave his life independence.
    Present Pir Sahib thinks it his duty to safeguard & maintain the sovereignty, integrity and independence of the home land. When in 1965 India attacked Pakistan Pir Sahib asked his followers that Almighty Allah has given us a golden chance to serve our country and to give our lives even for maintaining our freedom fight till success or death. About 20,000 volunteers came out and fought very bravely and captured many posts of India.
    Similarly in 1971 by order of Pir sahib his followers volunteered and fought very bravely against army.

    Pir sahib is very peaceful and law abiding citizen. This is proved from the fact that during lingual riots in the days of people from other areas of Sindh migrated to the area under pir sahib’s influence.
    When in 1967 gang of Karo Machi Dacoit played havoc in Sindh & Government was unable to control the Dacoits Pir Sahib ordered his followers to crush the Dacoits and maintain peach. The Hurs fought against the Dacoits and crushed them and maintained peace.
    Again in 1969 an other gang of Abbas Katohar dacoit snatched the peach of people of Sindh, The Hurs on order of Pir sahib crushed Abbas katohar’s gang also and maintained peach.
    It is for the above services of Pir Sahib that he is called as Mohsin-e-Millat. In 1970 Pir sahib got a new paper “States man” published from Karachi whose Editor was Awais. In 1955 Pir Sahib got Dargah Sharif renovated and decorated by an American Company at the cost of RS: 1, 25,000-00 Later on Bungalows and boundary walls were also reconditioned as before. According to some fakir (followers) a beam of light came from Roza Mubarak and fell on Pir Sahib at the time of Dastar Bandi that happened there times within few minutes

    http://pirpagara.com/hur.htm

    Posted 4 months ago on 13 Jan 2012 13:34 #
  12. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Hussain Farooqui

    i know of Hur movement as well but does that entitle all the misdeeds ( sharab ,shabab , races )etc by pirs ???

    Posted 4 months ago on 14 Jan 2012 8:53 #
  13. max786
    Member

    ALL OF PIRS,MACI BUGHTIS AND LIKE SHOUD BE SHOT AND SHOULD BE EXILED TO DUABI AND OTHER COUNTRIES.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 0:59 #
  14. spruce
    Member

    finaly these pir'sare better then altaf bobi pir sahab

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 5:05 #
  15. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    The present day hereditary pirs are no doubt disappointing. These present day pirs have deviated from the path of their ancestors. The contribution of real pirs towards the development of the Muslim society has been undeniably great. That is why I want Pir Sibghatullah to do what his ancestors did for the Muslim community of the subcontinent. The Pirs of Hur movement were the leaders and heroes of the whole subcontinent. Thousands of Muslim youths from all over the subcontinent joined the Hur movement. The Hurs pirs were not leaders like Zardari, Altaf, Nawaz Shareef, Isfandyar,,etc.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 5:53 #
  16. zingaro
    Member

    I heard some lady wrote a book on Pir Pagaro. She used to live amongst them. Can anyone knows about that book, the title, author etc ? Please share if you know.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 8:46 #
  17. This firauniat style line of descent and entitlement continues.

    Oh well, perhaps in next century they could get deliverance.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 9:29 #
  18. max786
    Member

    They have no roll in today society, these so called pir are worthless people on currput politicans pay roll and vice vera.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 21:08 #
  19. qaisernadeem
    Member

    I think unlike his father, new Pir will not be of much importance in Pak Politics. Pir Pagara was a Pir for over 50 years and Chotay Pir Saab already look very old. He won't get as much time to practise his oracle skills.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 21:14 #
  20. Piri mureedi is a big nasoor in our society. It is basically borrowed from Christianity where you give your money to priest and you are free to do all kinds of vile things. Pir will pray for you and your sins will be forgiven.

    It is amazing that most Pirs themselves commit all sorts of vile things and yet people expect that his prayers will deliver them. Leaving the hoax of spiritual deliverance aside, Pirs are big exploiters of poor people in economic terms. Pirs mostly do nothing for a living, yet they are very rich. Their mureeds contribute to hefty nazrana's despite being themselves being mostly poor.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 21:21 #
  21. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    Religion is being exploited as a lucrative business in our society. Jaali Pirs are just donations collectors from their murids and Mullahs have much versatile sources of bushinesses and income. We have no real pirs and no ulma e haq in our society. Our society is religious based society. As are basis have become hollow, so chaos are not unnatural.

    Posted 4 months ago on 16 Jan 2012 8:41 #
  22. Khan saab
    Member

    The problem with piri system is that the power is always passed from father to a son. If father was pious man it automatically does not make son a pious man. Have we seen any example where a non-relative have taken over??

    This practice leads to corruption. You are not promoted because of your own deeds or qualities but because of your father. Either, in politics or religious groups this practice has led Pakistan to where we stand today.

    For me a person is not great when he transfers power to his corrupt or unqualified son. Unless you choose the one who is most qualified for the job you are committing an injustice. And that will lead to disaster.

    Posted 4 months ago on 16 Jan 2012 9:57 #

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