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Pity the Nation

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  1. A poem by Khalil Gibran in1934

    Pity the nation that is full of beliefs and empty of religion.
    Pity the nation that wears a cloth it does not weave,
    eats a bread it does not harvest,
    and drinks a wine that flows not from its own wine-press.
    Pity the nation that acclaims the bully as hero,
    and that deems the glittering conqueror bountiful.
    Pity a nation that despises a passion in its dream,
    yet submits in its awakening.
    Pity the nation that raises not its voice
    save when it walks in a funeral,
    boasts not except among its ruins,
    and will rebel not save when its neck is laid
    between the sword and the block.
    Pity the nation whose statesman is a fox,
    whose philosopher is a juggler,
    and whose art is the art of patching and mimicking.
    Pity the nation that welcomes its new ruler with trumpeting,
    and farewells him with hooting,
    only to welcome another with trumpeting again.
    Pity the nation whose sages are dumb with years
    and whose strong men are yet in the cradle.
    Pity the nation divided into fragments,
    each fragment deeming itself a nation

    so true for today's Pakistani nation.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 11:24 #
  2. Very well said Beenai with a perfect timing as this is what we need right now telling us what we are or what we have become. Thanks for a nice post.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 11:35 #
  3. gv
    Member

    beenai this has been posted before

    here
    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/poem-by-khalil-jibran-1934#post-172368

    and here

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/khalil-gibran-and-pakistan#post-91446

    dont you guys have some rule about duplicate threads :P

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 11:36 #
  4. saladin89
    Member

    agreed, we are a nation of BEGHARITS!
    We have been pissed on so many times, but still there are people who praise these boot polisher's.

    Maybe we have been drugged or the pollution in the air has corrupted our thinking.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 11:41 #
  5. Can this Gibran be repeated often enough, gv? No duplicate here, I'd say. Simply a reminder of essential wisdom. Some way or the other we must find to express our feelings. Why not Gibran, then? He says it better than we might. BTW, how are you feeling today? Me myself I'm feeling rotten. But even this will pass away.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 11:45 #
  6. @gv,
    it may have been posted before.
    but as you can see,its always apt to post these things and remind people about the stage we have reached.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 11:46 #
  7. gv
    Member

    @mg

    well ive had a couple of my threads deleted by over zealous moderators because there was a similar topic under discussion a year ago... so just making a point... dont like double standards.. thats all.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 11:46 #
  8. @semirza,
    thanks a lot for your kind comments.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 11:47 #
  9. @gv,
    same topics at the same time has been deleted.
    we never deleted a thread which has been discussed a long time back.
    because some topics needs to be discussed again and again with the changing perspectives of things.

    @Mirza Ghalib,
    thanks for your support.
    had any of your thread has been deleted in the past for the reason that they have been discussed year ago?

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 11:50 #
  10. gv
    Member

    @beenai

    if you insist...

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 11:51 #
  11. OK, gv, fair enough. Except we did really need this look into the full-length mirror Khalil Gibran provides. Also, forget the past down to our very yesterday, live in the present and look to the future.

    BEENAI, it's no to your question. No thread of mine has ever been deleted for the reason you mention.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 11:54 #
  12. @gv,
    no im not insisting.
    if other members will say the same thing about the thread,i will close it.
    thanks

    @Mirza Ghalib,
    we are not into bigger things, we always gets involved into the minute details?

    as Iqbal had said;

    Yeh Salik Muqa'maat mein Kho Gaya
    Yeh Ummat Riwayat mein Kho Gayee

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 12:07 #
  13. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    I love! it, when I hear human beings coming back to "DEEN-ALLAH".

    AAlaa!

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 12:09 #
  14. @Hariskhan,
    thanks

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 12:24 #
  15. @beenai
    Do you have link to its urdu translation?

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 13:28 #
  16. scindian
    Member

    This is ever green post posted by me 9 months back.

    It must be repeated ...

    My comments were..

    Few reasons for a national backwardness

    They fail to identify thier national heros,when they recognize,soon been assisinated by other foe nations.

    When idias of minority being imposed on majority.

    when one ethanic region want to control and impose thier idiology to another ethanic region.

    Constitution of any contry is made up for elite class.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 13:39 #
  17. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    This is a real good time. Now we know better about ourselves.
    It is the worst time but it may be the best.
    If we learn from it.
    It is never too late.

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 14:30 #
  18. @LifeH2O,
    unfortunately,i don't have the Urdu translation of the poem.
    here is something i got from somewhere .
    its done by some one else.

    میرے دوستو اور ہم سفرو
    افسوس اس قوم پر جو یقین سے بھری لیکن مذہب سے خالی ہو
    افسوس اس قوم پر جو ایسا کپڑا پہنے جسے اس نے خود بنا نہ ہو
    جو ایسی روٹی کھائے جسے اس نے اگایا نہ ہو
    ایسی شراب پیےجو اس کے اپنے انگوروں سے کشید نہ کی گئی ہو

    افسوس اس قوم پر جو دادا گیر کو ہیرو سمجھے
    اور جو چمکیلے فاتح کو سخی گردانے
    افسوس اس قوم پر جو خواب میں کسی جذبے سے نفرت کرے
    لیکن جاگتے میں اسی کی پرستش کرے

    افسوس اس قوم پر جو اپنی آواز بلند کرے
    صرف اس وقت جب وہ جنازے کے ہم قدم ہو
    ڈینگ صرف اپنے کھنڈروں میں مارے
    اور اس وقت تک بغاوت نہ کرے
    جب تک اس کی گردن مقتل کے تختے پر نہ ہو

    افسوس اس قوم پر جس کی رہبر لومڑی ہو
    جس کا فلسفی مداری ہو
    جس کا فن پیوندکاری اور نقالی ہو

    افسوس اس قوم پر جو ہر نئے حکمران کا استقبال ڈھول تاشے سے کرے
    اور رخصت گالم گلوچ سے
    اور وہی ڈھول تاشے ایک نئے حاکم کے لیے بجانا شروع کر دے

    افسوس اس قوم پر جس کے مدبر برسوں کے بوجھ تک دب گئے ہوں
    اور جس کے سورما ابھی تک پنگھوڑے میں ہوں

    افسوس اس قوم پر جو ٹکڑوں میں بٹی ہوئی ہو
    اور ہر ٹکڑا اپنے آپ کو قوم کہتا ہو

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 14:56 #
  19. gv
    Member

    @Beenai

    I dont have an objection to the thread content. im just pointing out a slight discrepancy in pkp standards.

    see: http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/national-reform

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 May 2011 15:19 #
  20. @gv,
    your thread has been merged in the thread:

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/new-pakistan-reformschangessuggestions/page/2?replies=57#post-241606

    you can go there and see your thread ,i have just merged there.

    thanks
    Beenai

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 May 2011 6:26 #
  21. @beenai
    Thankyou very much for urdu. Each and every line of is written for us.
    افسوس اس قوم پر جس کی رہبر لومڑی ہو
    جس کا فلسفی مداری ہو
    جس کا فن پیوندکاری اور نقالی ہو

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 May 2011 20:45 #
  22. yes,thats why i have posted it.
    its so appropriate for the picture of today's Pakistan.

    Posted 1 year ago on 27 May 2011 5:41 #

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