Plz explain Ch Ift Vs Zardari issue in simple wording

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Plz explain Ch Ift Vs Zardari issue in simple wording

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expakistani
Member

yaar who can appoint judges and how the thing work out legally.... i thought President have power to appoint judges in pakistan so Choudri sahib ko kia problem hey....?

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 7:31 #
choosy
Member

expakistani bhai ,
please go to ;
http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/chief-justice-and-supreume-
court-declare-war-on-democratic-government

wohaan baary baary danishwaron ne bataya hay iss mamlay ko khol khol kay ...including Bichoos .

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 7:34 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Bhaee jaan, the law of the land says, President of Pakistan does not have the power to appoint judges on his own.

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 7:34 #
choosy
Member

@Harisbhai ,
issko khud parhh kay faisla karnay do na!

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 7:35 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Well, it is our job to make things convenient for people.

That is the entire meaning of our life, the jobs that we do all day, everyday. If we can make it MORE convenient for someone, that is not something bad.

I accept, that he has to learn on his own, read on his own, make decisions on his own.

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 7:37 #
toamin
member

there are no simple words to explain a constitutional crisis, so either pick side with SC or Zardari :)

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 8:00 #
zingaro
Member

yaar simple words mein ye summary hay kay "aik jana pehchana chor qaanoon ki garift say bachna chahta hay .. isliay wo kabi kisi heelay say kabi kisi bahaanay say panga baazi karta rehta hay"

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 9:09 #
telengr
Member

Zardari wants to portray Ch Iftikhar as the new dictator. Second, he wants to highlight the question, why CJ wants to put Justice Sharif in punjab highcourt?? even if he had to use force. Remember the Shariefs eligibility case is there!

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 10:09 #
choosy
Member

@bhai expakistani ,
tum bhi ssamjhdar hu .
Zardari masoom hu sakta hay ya nahin?
khud samjh lo?

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 10:35 #
hamarapakistan
Member

Bhaie expakistani:
Simple words mein

From Zardari side :
"Chor bi bole chor chor".

From CJ side:
"Na khedan ge na khedan dan ge"

:)

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 17:01 #
NNL
member

Ex Pakistani.

Nothing there is no side to it. Its just that they have to create a story to keep teh awam busy in watching their show while they steal the awam and the country.

Its a simple matter which happens almost all the times
but since the country is in a worse place they have to shift focus to rob us again.

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 17:24 #
Fahim23
Member

@expak bhai

Plz read this: may be it helps you understand the matter.

According to the Constitution of Pakistan (Article 177) on the appointment of Supreme Court judges” “The Chief Justice of Pakistan shall be appointed by the President, and each of the other Judges shall be appointed by the President after consultation with the Chief Justice.”

The constitution clarifies “consultation” thus: “consultation shall, save in respect of appointments of Judges of the Supreme Court and High Courts, mean discussion and deliberation which shall not be binding on the President.”

Thus President Zardari is not bound by the demands of Justice Iftikhar which are illegal and criminal.

Source: http://****.org/****/archives/5834

Khuwaja Sharif the most senior Judge and Saqib Nisar is second in line. President has appointed Kh. Sharif in Supreme court based on his seniority while CJ Iftikhar wants Saqib nisar to come to Supreme court superceding Kh. Sharif and he wants Kh. Sharif to stay in Lahore High court.

Kh. Sharif is believed to have close associations with PMLN. And some are speculating that, the CJ Iftikhar's insistance on the same to stay in Punjab is to make things favorable for PMLN!

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 18:17 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

The constitution clarifies “consultation” thus: “consultation shall, save in respect of appointments of Judges of the Supreme Court and High Courts, mean discussion and deliberation which shall not be binding on the President.”

(sarcasm) @Fahim23: You'r English is awesome!, my friend. (/sarcasm) Explain the part in bold to brother 'expakistani', please.

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 18:36 #
daani
Member

@Fahim23

"save in respect of appointments of Judges of the Supreme Court and High Courts" means

except in respect of appointments of Judges of the Supreme Court and High Courts

and that clearly means in case of appointment of judges, CJ's recommendations are BINDING.

Posted 2 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 18:55 #
expakistani
Member

@Fahim23..thank you bhai, ab samjh ayi
its like we have selection committee for cricket team, that committee take recommendation from coach and caption / VC but committee is not bound to follow orders from caption etc....

theek kara zardari bhai ney... so yeah CH sahib ko kia punga hey... abhi etni muskil se job wapas lagi hey en ki or pher start hogey...

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Feb 2010 5:28 #
choosy
Member

@expakistani ,
ab aik job tu jaye gi ...:):):)
CJ ki yah ...

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Feb 2010 5:30 #
zingaro
Member

Bhai log kuch tawajja Article 177 ki taraf bhi dejiay jis ko hariskhan nay paish kia hay aur daani nay tarjma bhi kar dia hay ... agar phir bhi aap log zidd pay arey rahein to us ka kisi hakeem kay pass koi hal nai hay

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Feb 2010 7:16 #
aristotle
Member

Borya Bistar gool honey wala hay sab ka

ye sab se simple words hen conclusion k ley :)

samjhey Bhayya Expakistani

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Feb 2010 8:05 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

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Article 177 of Constitution of Pakistan;

177. Appointment of Supreme Court Judges.
(1) The Chief Justice of Pakistan shall be appointed by the President, and each of the other Judges shall be appointed by the President after consultation with the Chief Justice.
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Article 260 contains definitions of words used in Constitution. The word 'consultation' is also defined there;

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Article 260 of the Constitution of Pakistan defines the word 'consultation' as -> ["consultation" shall, save in respect of appointments of Judges of the Supreme Court and High Courts, mean discussion and deliberation which shall not be binding on the President.]
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The above shows, CJ is doing exactly what the constitution of Pakistan says.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Feb 2010 8:49 #