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PM vs CJ: Get Ready for the RUMBLE...

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  1. From the "Of a 3-month PM,..." link above:

    ...The honourable Chief Justice said a lot, advised a few times, even gave clues to the clueless lawyer about the right way of diluting court’s decisions instead of stubbornly refusing to honour them. But it was one line that stood out and summed up the possible future scenario when while warning the government, through its baffled legal eagle, the CJ sombrely intoned that were the government to stay on the apparent course by avoiding honouring court decisions then it harboured serious consequences. To quote him, “Once you (government) take a decision then there are others who can take their decisions”. And this ominous warning came at the heels of a couple of earlier statements that he had made while addressing the attorney general, who perpetually looked like a deer caught in the headlights of the hunters jeep. The CJ had earlier remarked, “this system has been restored after great difficulty...there is no respect for courts, judges, constitution, judgements....there must be collective rule of law”. And the final warning to the man at the helm of affairs, at least on paper anyway, “the prime minister is a wise man, who must know the consequences well”.

    What the honourable chief justice probably doesn’t know, or maybe would be hoping against hope for the sake of the system that it would not be so, is that the government’s legal team has decided to take on the court on the Swiss letter issue even if its stand meets the same fate as the famous last stand of General Custer. According to insiders, the executive has plans to even take the extreme measure of withdrawing the executive order (whether it can is another matter) responsible for reinstating the incumbent Supreme Court, the political and other consequences of such a confrontation be damned, and attempt replacing chief justice and some of the effected judges with others. Such is the fear of opening the door to president Zardari’s possible prosecution that his people are willing to close down the system. Talk to them and one of their fears is that by agreeing to write the Swiss letter the government would, by implication, be taking away the president’s immunity at home.....

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 6:34 #
  2. Truthlover
    Member

    We are waiting since december but our judiciary seems to be just a paper tiger.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 9:13 #
  3. @Truthlover
    "We are waiting since december but our judiciary seems to be just a paper tiger"

    True! Let's see if judges has any guts...so far they have been pathetic.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 10:01 #
  4. d0ct0r
    Member

    Nobody actually wants to get blamed for derailing the system so all available avenues are being perused to amicably resolve the issue(in reality however things are headed for collision) .  Otherwise if time isn't given to these incompetent jerks then they'll start portraying themselves as political shaheeds..

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 10:13 #
  5. Truthlover
    Member

    @doctor,
    If it's martyrdom they seek, then better give it them, only to fools can they cheat and we have ample of them in Pakistan.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 10:31 #
  6. shimatoree
    Member

    Once again I am forced to quote Comte De Mirabeau-( a Kafir  )-

       1.   Most men lack character.

       2. It is always the MAN who matter , Men do not matter.

        3. In the history of nations- the future is often decided by MOMENTS. A single moment comes and you need a leader who is aware and grabs the moment and history is changed.
    Most of the time you have small men who dilly daly and vacsilate and cannot make up their minds waiting constantly for a better opportunity and thus they miss the moment.

        I think the present lot in Pakistan gives a great definition for the word

                PATHETIC and Misreable.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 12:29 #
  7. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    Who is he to say words to a unanimous elected prime minister ?
    Don't forget his past.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 13:32 #
  8. aftab arif
    Member

    @ Anwer Kamal

    Maybe because PM and his Mrs are loan defaulters and if it were a common person who had defaulted he/she would be behind bars but because it is the Pir of Multan and unfortunately PM of Pakistan he gets of scot-free.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 14:04 #
  9. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    Their loan has been settled already.
    You want those again who handed over Afia to USA.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 14:08 #
  10. aftab arif
    Member

    I wonder what that means exactly when you say loan is settled, so did he pay it all back or did he get a clean slate because he is PM of Pakistan now.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 14:22 #
  11. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    I 'think' it is a better idea for the world economy to collapse before Mr. Chief Justice makes his move in Supreme Court of Pakistan.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 16:08 #
  12. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @Anwer Kamal: When did Mr. Gilani settle that loan ?

    This is wrong. He has not! returned public money that he took. According to the last news I heard about this issue, Mr. Gilani returned 10% or less of the state/public money he embezzled.

    @shimatoree: Can you please spare us these quotes ? I'v had more than enough of this nonsense. This is 'empty talk' to 'provoke' others.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 16:10 #
  13. Zoab_Khan
    Member

    If Gilani was a rickshaw driver with no hookups would his debt be settled for pennies on the dollar? 

    I don't believe that Z-League has decided to sack Rehman Malik, C.Mukhtaar, Salman Farooqi....but they will pull another move to fool the country and the judiciary.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2010 16:58 #
  14. "I don't believe that Z-League has decided to sack Rehman Malik,
    C.Mukhtaar, Salman Farooqi....but they will pull another move to fool
    the country and the judiciary."

    Don't know if this is related but supposedly Salman Farooqi has left for America ("for medical reasons") and Rehman Malik's family has left for London...

    BTW: Gilani is holding a press conference tonight

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Sep 2010 13:14 #
  15. d0ct0r
    Member

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Sep 2010 16:26 #
  16. d0ct0r
    Member

    Zardari's front man Salman Farooqi have already fled . First they were saying he has gone for medical treatment,now PM today said he has gone for 'vacations' and he'd be back soon.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Sep 2010 16:29 #
  17. d0ct0r
    Member

    PM and Zardari met Kiyani on Saturday night, reminds me of kiyani's role during long march.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Sep 2010 21:58 #
  18. d0ct0r
    Member

    Zardari aide flees to US

    President Asif Ali Zardari's aide Suleman Farooqi, who has
    been one of the key beneficiaries of the National Reconciliation
    Ordinance (NRO), fled to the United States Saturday.


    Calls to his office and home went
    unanswered. Farooqi' s
    staff also did not respond to calls.

    Federal Minister for
    Privatization Waqar Khan confirmed
    the report, saying: "Yes he has fled to the United States. Being the
    beneficiary of NRO, he was to face the Supreme Court and orders from the
    prime
    minister
    ."

     Khan added: "Prime Minister (Yousaf Raza Gilani)
    will sack all NRO beneficiaries on Monday because he has committed on
    the floor
    of the Senate that NRO beneficiaries have no place in the government."

     http://arabnews.com/world/article147081.ece

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Sep 2010 22:17 #
  19. d0ct0r
    Member

    Waqar Ahmed Khan privatization minister,his brother and his father are all senators. They buy senate seats for Rs50 million a piece ..

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Sep 2010 22:20 #
  20. @dOctOr
    "Waqar Ahmed Khan privatization minister,his brother and his father are
    all senators. They buy senate seats for Rs50 million a piece .."

    I think they paid 60 million each last time. But it might be more...

    BUT let's not forget the same is true for most (ALL?) senate seats. They are bought by buying the votes of MNAs and MPAs. I have even heard MPAs sometimes getting offered Rs 10-20 Million for a vote for a senator)

    (I remember Farooq Leghari buying his son Jamal Leghari a seat when he got voted out for doing a terrible job as the Distt. Nazim, D G Khan.)

    BTW: Each of those senators will tell you they won by the power of the vote.

    Posted 1 year ago on 27 Sep 2010 2:45 #
  21. Zardari, Gilani met Kayani Saturday night: report

    Posted 1 year ago on 27 Sep 2010 5:11 #
  22. @dOctOr

    Zardari aide flees to US"

    Sharmila kab bhagay gi??

    Posted 1 year ago on 27 Sep 2010 5:12 #
  23. Zoab_Khan
    Member


    How is this SOB Salman Farooqui allowed to leave?  He is a NRO beneficiary, his name should be on the ECL list.  


    Posted 1 year ago on 27 Sep 2010 7:12 #
  24. @Zoab Khan
    "How is this SOB Salman Farooqui allowed to leave?"

    Don't worry -- SC will allow them ALL to leave.

    "his name should be on the ECL list"
    Even if it was -- and it was a little while ago -- it would not make a difference. Remember RM is running that show and the last time someone on ECL who wanted to escape (the accused in Steel Mill Case), FIA invited her to Islamabad and put her on the plane with full VVIP protocol.

    Posted 1 year ago on 27 Sep 2010 10:20 #
  25. Govt has backed down. They did not present SC the summary they had approved last night and said please give us some time. Next hearing: Oct 13.

    Kiyani, Gilani, Zardari are meeting right now.

    Posted 1 year ago on 27 Sep 2010 10:43 #

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