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PML(N) Using Public Money For Political Campaign.

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  1. insaftak

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    using public money to do membership for PML(N) via Sms 80011 number.

    Facepalm.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 4:40 #
  2. anasyounus

    Self Projection on Public Money...
    Deceiving people into registering for PML-N.... this is an offense under Consumer rights laws

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 4:44 #
  3. Respect

    This is Pakistan my friend anything goes!!!

    The way Noon league are going they will bank crupt Punjab very soon, and they will shift the blame to PPP

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 4:48 #
  4. siddiqi73

    Haters will always hate.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 7:46 #
  5. sam_khan

    insaftak has posted two ad banners on his post. One big and one small. He accuses PMLN using public money to do membership for PML(N) via Sms 80011 number.

    If you look at the bigger ad it does not contain any Sms 80011 number for membership campaign as claimed by insaftak. Yes, the smaller ad showing Sms 80011 number but it is not the part of the bigger ad. I have searched various newspapers but none of the newspapers showing any such "membership campaign via Sms 80011 number" in connection with the distribution of Laptops.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 8:36 #
  6. Imran Qadri

    sam_khan

    If you look closely,the bigger ad does contain sms number 80011 just besides eyouth initiative logo.

    Nevertheless just like on visiting card or letterhead a person uses his contact details(url,email,twitter,facebook,sms number,address etc) similarly CM Shahbaz here simply used his contact details.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 8:55 #
  7. sam_khan

    d0ct0r,

    I did look it closely. There is number but the ad does not mention any membership campaign message.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 9:16 #
  8. Imran Qadri

    sam_khan

    That's what I am saying too. That sms option is merely one of the option among others(twitter,facebook,website etc) to communicate with CM.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 9:19 #
  9. anasyounus

    @Sam_khan and d0ct0r,

    not mentioning the real details of what the SMS number is for is like deciving people into registering for PML-N without actually being aware of what they are doing.. Isnt it fraud?

    It is not just PML-N membership/registration that one would be doing, this also means that they are subscribed to the SMS updates from PML-N again without knowing it...

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 9:21 #
  10. sam_khan

    d0ct0r,

    Yes, you are right.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 9:22 #
  11. Adonis

    The sms number is for sending comments.

    You just right your name (or pseudonym for that matter) and send your comments. It is absurd that to imply that PML-N will magically get sender's CNIC and home address and register him as PML-N member which will somehow tilt next election's results in PML-N's favor.

    The Ilzamis should stop living in the fantasy land of conspiracy theories.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 9:28 #
  12. NonStopleo

    A big corruption scandal of the time....
    12 billions project being used for N league publicity but no court to take action, no media to speak on it.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 9:34 #
  13. Imran Qadri

    anasyounus

    That SMS number does not defrauds the user.Its merely a mode of communication. Smsing on that number won't mean that your vote is being automatically casted in favour of PML N without your knowledge like some of you are trying to portray.

    PML N won't(and isn't) using charity money for political purposes.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 9:35 #
  14. anasyounus

    this is an 'SMS-all' registration number of PML-N, they broadcast thier 'party' updates through this SMS all number..they will run their Election Campaign through this 'SMS-all' facility... they have been advertising this number for regitering people to PML-N for some time now (along with other methods), obviously it doesnt cast their vote (niether does any other method) BUT do you not think that it is the persons right to EXACTLY know what he is subscribing to????

    And can you promise on behalf of PML-N that they will not publish or use the numbers registered to this SMS service to show their 'Party' support? and if they used this in thier favour like this, would you thn call it 'dishonesty'??

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 9:49 #
  15. khanamer

    I think SS did wrong here, he is not CM of Punjab and the PML-N is not ruling party in Punjab, he should have poster of IK there and should have asked people to send feed-back to IK...

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 9:56 #
  16. Adonis

    The OP has called it sms number for membership to PML-N which it is clearly not.

    As for campaign through sms, this method is nothing new and at least for the last five years, political parties have been sending their propaganda messages to consumers through list of active mobile phone numbers obtained from cell phone companies.

    Of course, the consumer can always block such messages through their cell phone company.

    And only a PTI supporter could fantasize that any political party can get any political mileage by publishing mobile phone numbers of their supporters.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 9:57 #
  17. anasyounus

    They advertise it as the registration number for PML-N.. cant help if you wanna live in denial mode..

    Anyways, its no surprise that the use of public money for personal and party projection and registration is no crime or even "ODD" thing for PML-N supporters.. what else one can expect from the supporters of leaders who are doing this for decades...

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 10:04 #
  18. khanamer

    Who is distributing these Laptops? Govt of Punjab or SS
    Is SS using his personal money for the laptops? or it is money of Govt of Punjab?
    who is the CM of the Punjab?
    Which Govt is distributing Laptops?

    Now answering these will answer why we have Shahbaz's picture at the top

    For others?
    Why do IK use his picture for fund raising for SK and Nimal College? doesn't that mean he is using charity money for personal gains and now cashing out those projects ( done by public funds ) for his personal gains in politics???

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 10:29 #
  19. pacemaker

    if SMS < NAME > at 80011 not for membership on phone, then what foR?

    if you follow the above you become member of PML-N wheather you want it or not, I think PML-N SHOULD STOP FOOLING the people of Pakistan

    infact it is another example of copy-cat, PTI successful compaign resulted in more than 350000 member by sms in 3 weeks as compare to PML-N 13000 over the same periode

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 11:22 #
  20. khanamer

    ^^ By Just giving them my name i can become member of Poltical party!!! that is new, is that how PTI claims they have 4/500k members?

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 11:25 #
  21. pacemaker

    party membership is not a certificate, so yes you can, it is true allover world not just PTI

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 11:37 #
  22. Adonis

    Maybe this is the case with PTI, but you can not become a member of PML-N just by sending a name (or fake name) through sms.

    For membership in PML-N, you need to provide your full name, CNIC number and permanent address. The basic membership unit of Muslim League is primary league organized at UC level and you join and vote in party elections based on your local primary league.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 12:02 #
  23. pacemaker

    IK is using his pics to inspire people for charity collection, he is the one initiating and collecting donation for distribution among the people in need, he is not using tax payers money for personal promotion unlike Shebaz & Nawaz, infact nawaz has nothing to do with Punjab govt

    in Lahore houses buldozed and people thrown to the steet without shelter in freezing winter but Shabaz & Nawaz busy in distributing laptops yet a huge burden on Punjab ex-chaquer

    shame on shameless brothers

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 12:02 #
  24. pacemaker

    SMS < NAME > at 80011 not for PML-N membership on phone, then what for?

    may be for Big Boss membership ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 12:07 #
  25. khanamer

    @pacemaker

    i think in PTI< email address is what they use??? CNIC is must for any political party, sending name is simple not enough, may be for PTI< but again, what you guys do when you have two guys with same name?

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 12:09 #
  26. pacemaker

    ^^ reply my question please!

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 12:17 #
  27. khanamer

    which question?

    that BIG BOSS thing, just for you info, it is not a Pakistani program !! !so the question in invalid in its essence

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 12:24 #
  28. pacemaker

    the question is why one should sms at 80011 with < NAME > ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 12:49 #
  29. Imran Qadri

    pacemaker
    Your question had been already answered multiple times,I am sure you intentionally ignored those comments ..

    Nevertheless just like on visiting card or letterhead a person uses his contact details(url,email,twitter,facebook,sms number,address etc) similarly CM Shahbaz here simply used his contact details.

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/pmln-using-public-money-for-political-campaign#post-306250

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    That sms option is merely one of the option among others(twitter,facebook,website etc) to communicate with CM.

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/pmln-using-public-money-for-political-campaign#post-306254

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    The sms number is for sending comments.

    You just right your name (or pseudonym for that matter) and send your comments. It is absurd that to imply that PML-N will magically get sender's CNIC and home address and register him as PML-N member which will somehow tilt next election's results in PML-N's favor.

    The Ilzamis should stop living in the fantasy land of conspiracy theories.

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/pmln-using-public-money-for-political-campaign#post-306257

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 12:55 #
  30. siddiqi73

    @ Pacemaker,

    Don't sweat pal....CM Sharif can also provide you a laptop and all you gotta do is ask. I just don't see a reason for you to get so worked up on this.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 12:59 #
  31. Imran Qadri

    anasyounus

    I got voice message of Imran on my PTCL land line thrice here in Karachi when I had not even 'subscribed' to any PTI list. SMS spamming softwares and companies offering to spam on your behalf(just like the one hired by PTI for its jalsas) readily provide their services so why would shahbaz sharif and PML N painstakingly collect few mobile numbers and spam them against their will when they could easily do so with other easily available options(like the ones used by Imran's party).

    Back in dec some user(I think Sufisoul?)_posted a facebook link of 'official PTI jalsa live video feed' when I clicked the link it took me to a page which said that first "Like" 2 official PTI pages then you will be redirected to Live video feed. Its new and immature party like PTI which resorts to such gimmicks to portray and project its popularity on Facebook and social media using such deceptive tactics and PML N have no reason to follow them in their deceptive and immoral tactics. Dictator Musharraf too used such tactics to increase his face book "Likes" and in the end at the time of Jalsa in Karachi they had to ask the event management company which was outsourced to make stage and seating arrangements was also asked to 'arrange' and hire crowd as well for them(daily wage earners),such thing happens when immature parties start boasting about fake facebook "Likes"

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 13:06 #
  32. sandman

    At least they used pakistani kids in the ad this time :)

    unlike...
    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/pml-n-poster-to-attract-the-pakistani-youth

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 14:07 #
  33. anasyounus

    @d0c0t0r
    Go to PML-N Facebook page and see if it let you see the Content without you have to "Like" the page.. Its same for all..

    Being Subscribed to a 'SMS-All' service and getting broadcast SMS are two different things.. The question is does thios number has anything to do with Punjab Government? or any Punjab government Official? The Answer obviously is NO..

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 14:28 #
  34. pacemaker

    dOctOr,
    so if you want to communicate to CM of Punjab write your name & send sms at 80011 and telepathy will take care rest of the message, lol,
    the person you are supporting has same IQ level as yours
    like leader like supporters

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 14:55 #
  35. anasyounus

    yea agree with Pacemaker.. its only a registration SMS number.. its not a two way communication number.. just a one way "Multicast' number..

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 14:59 #
  36. xero

    dishonesty of Noon league is quite evident here.i am so sorry to c the pathetic efforts made by nooners to justify this absurd act of registering new members without letting them know what is the actuall use of this number. Dear noon league we are not willing to be fooled anymore.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 15:53 #
  37. siddiqi73

    ^^^ Don't worry Xero, we have no intention to make a tool outta folks who have already been conned by a Lota of the agencies.

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 17:15 #
  38. Imran Qadri

    PTIans here are obviously making a mountain out of a molehill..

    @pacemaker
    Indeed its low IQ level(being dumb) that is causing problems here,Shahbaz Sharif's team should have thought about simpletons(like the insafians here) and not so tech savvy ones too while they were producing this ad and should have mentioned his snail mail address as well.. Anyways here is the address for you.

    "Chief Minister Secretariat
    5-Club Road
    GOR-I, Lahore"

    @xero

    Don't worry,no laptops for you.Regardless of you giving us your number or not we would get your number from sms spammers. We would send multiple voice messages on your PTCL land line anyway (using the services of same company which Imran used). Not just that we would also send you voice messages on all your mobile numbers(on all different networks) as well. Besides voice messages you would also be flooded with sms messages.. Same would be the case with you email,twitter and facebook account,we would simply flood you..!

    Posted 2 years ago on 08 Feb 2012 18:20 #
  39. xero

    lol
    Doctor sahib vote fer v na labhu ;)

    Posted 2 years ago on 09 Feb 2012 2:04 #
  40. Qaiser Nadeem

    This is shameful, PMLN started this SMS campaign to increase their membership and asked people to sms and become a member but now the most incompetent and cowardly CM of Punjab uses Laptops as a bribe to increase membership, it's just downright shameful.

    Posted 2 years ago on 09 Feb 2012 4:23 #
  41. Respect

    @Qaiseer Nadeem

    They are shameproof

    Posted 2 years ago on 09 Feb 2012 5:03 #
  42. anasyounus

    For Those Gentlemen who claimed that this SMS number on Punjab Government Ads has nothing to do with PML-N

    http://express.com.pk/epaper/index.aspx?Issue=NP_LHE&Page=Back_Page008&Date=20120804&Pageno=8&View=1

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2012 10:20 #
  43. eagle_pk

    siddiqi73 brother!!
    Now fix vena malik picture with pml-n flag and make it your profile picture.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hahaha

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2012 11:28 #
  44. anasyounus

    @Adonis,

    The OP has called it sms number for membership to PML-N which it is clearly not.

    What you think now about your earlier given 'Fatwa'??

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2012 13:58 #
  45. tsunami

    siddiqi73 brother!!
    Now fix vena malik picture with pml-n flag and make it your profile picture.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hahaha

    :P

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2012 13:59 #
  46. insaftak

    @anasyounus

    nice bump brother. the looters PML N000ra will have to payback all the money the looted from the poor pakistanis.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2012 16:58 #
  47. anasyounus

    And Not a Word from Geniuses who claimed this SMS number has nothing to do with PML-N membership

    Posted 2 years ago on 06 Aug 2012 8:46 #
  48. sandman

    Lol...good catch anas bhai

    Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2012 9:03 #

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