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PPP's Nabil Gabol decides to join MQM

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  1. Shirazi

    Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) former MNA Nabil Gabol has decided to join the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), Express News reported on Sunday.
    Sources said that Gabol will formally announce his decision during a press conference at MQM headquarters Nine-Zero in Karachi later during the day.
    Gabol had developed differences with the senior leadership of PPP, sources added.
    Gabol was elected from a seat in the Lyari constituency in the 2008 elections with 84,217 votes.
    Lyari had seen a great deal of political activity under the PPP-led government. In 2011, the Peoples Amn Committee (PAC) had demanded that Gabol resign for his neglect of the constituency. They claimed that the votes were for Benazir Bhutto and not him.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 8:31 #
  2. Bawa

    پہنچا وہیں پہ آخر جہاں کا بے ضمیر تھا

    پی پی پی کے بدنام زمانہ دہشتگردوں اور بھتہ خوروں کو صرف ایم کیو ایم میں ہی پناہ مل سکتی ہے

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    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 8:33 #
  3. psychonaut

    very interesting!! I never thought gabool would go for MQM.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 8:33 #
  4. Shirazi

    My understanding is this doesn't mean Liyari's PPP seat will be up for grab for MQM. Even the other PPP MNA from Liyari Rafique Engineer may quit PPP soon. Both Gobol and Rafique Engineer were not allowed back in their constituencies by Aman committee's Ozair Bolouch and co. They effectively control Liyari and Nabil Gobol and Rafique Engineer had no other choice. If they can't go to their constituency how will they run elections there?

    Our friends from Karachi can shed some light on this.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 8:38 #
  5. psychonaut

    I think gabool is the leader of gabool tribe and thats where his vote bank is.

    But the people of liyari are with PPP for sure.

    I still dont think he would go for MQM.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 8:40 #
  6. farhansaeed345

    Rafique engineer was MPA from layari.he died around 10 days a go with a heart attack.may almighty ALLAH bless him jant ul firdoos amean.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 8:45 #
  7. LHR42

    i think gabool is going to save his political worth, from 45 days back he is trying to enter PML-N, but mian refuse to take him, so he join MQM now....
    Any comments from u guys

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 8:55 #
  8. Shirazi

    I am not sure what Gabol can get from PMLN - PMLN is non-existent in Karachi. He had two options either MQM or ANP.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 8:58 #
  9. BitterTruth

    Shirazi bhai is right about the dispute between Nabil Gabool and Leadership of PPP and also about Aman committee's Ozair Bolouch and co. who effectively control Liyari.

    But as far as election is concern, Liyari belongs to PPP in any scenario and with any candidate.

    In 1990s, The Most powerful peronality from NA-248 (Liyari) was Ali Mohammed Hangoro but he also could not survive after leaving PPP.

    Even after mystery death of Ali Mohammed, the widespread wall chawking against PPP and several massive protests in Liyari was alarming fall of PPP from Liyari but it did not happened.

    However, the above News might be true as Nabeel Gabool has no more room to survive both in Politics and Karachi. MQM would be a good choice for him as both has common enemy PAC and Zulifiqar Mirza.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 9:12 #
  10. anasyounus

    Express News reports that he will contest from Azizabad on MQM ticket

    If this happens it will be very beneficial for other parties specially the ones who can attract Urdu Speaking votes

    As far as I know, he didnt had much to do with Gang War in Liyari and the Law and order situation created by PAC people in adjoining areas but not everyone (in Urdu Speaking Community) realizes this and associate him with Liyari gangs in one way or the other.

    But this factor alone will be far far from enough for other parties to make serious inroads in Urdu Speaking Community

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 9:16 #
  11. anasyounus

    This joining will only marginally benefit MQM in NA-248 (Liyari) if at all there is any benefit

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 9:17 #
  12. Qaiser Nadeem

    So the "Sardar" of Gabol tribe joins MQM, what about Altaf bhai's war on "Waderana Nizam". :\

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 9:17 #
  13. BitterTruth

    Shirazi bhai,

    Nabeel had offer from PMLN as he could be a representation of PMLN from Karachi but he is hesitated to accept as PMLN, from Lahore, can't protect him from PAC.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 9:20 #
  14. Shirazi

    @BT Sb

    Unfortunately in Karachi politics is very bloody unlike perhaps anywhere else in the country. To survive you have to be one Don or the other - Altaf bahi, Zulfiqar Mira/Ozair Balouch or Shahid sahi. The forces like PMLN and PTI are non existent on grounds.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 9:25 #
  15. BitterTruth

    @Qaiser Nadeem bhai,

    He belongs to a that Sardar clan where when a child born they called him Sardar from first day.

    If he would have been Jagirdar or Wadeera or real Sardar he would have contested election from his land only somewhere between Sindh and Balochistan.

    Gabool tribe in Karachi are still supporting PPP, Nabeel Gabool has no key position in his tribe.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 9:26 #
  16. alltrue12

    @ Qqiser Nadeem

    sir, What war against Waderashahi, you are talking, this is all rubish and bekwas of Altaf kalia, and his paid puppets like Darooq Sattar who for five yeqars licked, and cleaned the shoe of all land lords, and looters.

    again after next election you will see these loons sitting in the lap of Zerdari mafias

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 9:30 #
  17. Shirazi

    Nabeel Gobol doesn't have much to offer to MQM except perhaps cash but MQM has a lot to offer to him. They can keep him alive both figuratively and politically. From this bargain position if he can get MNA seat he is one hell of a negotiator.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 9:39 #
  18. BitterTruth

    @Shirazi Bhai,

    You are right for the violence in karachi politics but not for the party existent:

    beside MQM, PPP and ANP there are:

    PTI exists in one to two constituency
    JUP exists in two to three constituency
    JI exists almost in all constituencies in central area of Karachi.
    JUIF exists in Madarasas in different area.

    PMLN used to exist in karachi but after PMLQ, PMLN has no key resident figure from Karachi. Naeem Adil Shaikh, Aleem Adil Shaikh and Abu Baker Shekhani, all are in politics but with PMLQ.

    No one can deny political violence in karachi, but when JI, JUI, PMLQ, JUIF and PTI are regularly performing their political activities in karachi why PMLN can't? the answer is very clear : PMLN venomous statement and negative vision and mission for karachi.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 9:45 #
  19. Shirazi

    @Bitter Truth bahi

    When I said non existent I meant electorally. If you can't win single national seat out of 20 odd or single provincial seat out of 40 odd then you are non a factor.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 9:57 #
  20. Javed Sheikh

    Bilawal Bhutto could be the next candidate at Lyari constituency.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 10:31 #
  21. adnak

    Dear Javed Sheikh jee

    Bilawal Bhutto or Bilawal Zardari?

    بھٹو کا لفظ تو زبردستی چسپاں کر دیا گیا ہے بے چارے بلاول پر - لوگ اب اور بھی سیانے ہو چکے ہیں

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 10:57 #
  22. BitterTruth

    Bilawal Bhutto could be the next candidate at Lyari constituency

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    @Javed Sheikh Bhai

    Only if Election helds after 20 Septmber 2013 when Balawal will become 25 years and eligible to contest Election as per article 62-1-B-I and 62-1-B-II.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 11:00 #
  23. khanamer

    I thought ANP suits him more, but again politics is funny business... let us see what comes out of this...

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 11:01 #
  24. BitterTruth

    @khanamer sb.

    ANP and Nabeel Gabool is like West and South.

    And against on south-west corner PPP and MQM are standing respectively on NA-239 and NA-240.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 11:08 #
  25. khanamer

    @BitterTruth,

    I agree that they are south and north pole, but MQM and Gabool were like east and west as well... but that is some 5/6 years ago... and i think lots of water is under the bridge.. as i said, politics is funny business... would be interesting to see what Nabeel Gabool can bring on the platter for MQM....

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 11:21 #
  26. BitterTruth

    @khanamer sb.

    If you consider the demography and geography of Liyari, Nabeel Gabool can bring MQM candidate on 2nd position not more than this.

    On other hand as I said earlier MQM partial mandate, in Liyari such as Aagra Taj, closed to MethaDar and KharaDar, can ensure peaceful enternce of Nabeel Gabool in his constituency inspite of PAC threat.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 11:28 #
  27. khanamer

    @Bitter Truth,

    That is what amazes me, Nabeel cannot bring much on table for MQM, although he can offer lot more ( compare what he can bring for MQM) to ANP or PML-Q... but with all this not only MQM is welcoming him but giving him sure ticket to NA...

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 11:57 #
  28. BitterTruth

    although he can offer lot more ( compare what he can bring for MQM) to ANP or PML-Q

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    @khanamer Sb.

    No I dont think so, He can't give anything to any party except anti-PAC votes which He can aggregate easily under MQM as common victim of PAC, those votes are max 5K to 10K which will make no difference in result but can give an improve statistics in MQM toughest constituency in Karachi.

    BTW, here important is that what nabeel can get from his new party especially in current situation when he is not able to step in his constituency, for sure PMLN, PMLQ and ANP can offer him nothing.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 13:34 #
  29. hypocrite

    This movement of politicians from one party to another and at times back and forth is becoming a trend. It was not as prevalent 10 ~ 15 years ago.

    It is impacting the development of ideology and promotion of real democracy. It is strengthening the development of electable and sect/clan/language/ethnicity etc based politics.

    In this case it seems that Nabeel sahib gets an opportunity to extend his political career whereas MQM gets a chance to boast that it has representation from all section of Pakistanis.

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 14:38 #
  30. Zoab_Khan

    Gabol has accepted Altaf Baji as his messiah

    Posted 1 year ago on 17 Mar 2013 22:20 #
  31. Arain

    Nabil Gabol's induction in MQM is a good publicity for MQM that a top ranked non-mahajir has joined MQM. He can't even enter his constituency let alone win from there, and MQM knows that. MQM got a good press out of it and Nabil Gabol will get a Senate seat in return; it's a win win for both of them.

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2013 2:54 #
  32. Dusky

    He knew he is not going to get ticket from PPP in upcoming election and he does not see any PMLN future in Karachi politics either, so he made a wise move to move with MQM rather then any other party. This will secure Lyari for PPP once again, as the anti PPP voters will further divided in Uzair Baloch aman committee (lately back by PMLN)and Nabeel Gabol loyal voters.

    With his induction MQM may get couple of extra provincial seats in south district where they were close second and in return he may get a trip to senate. This is a big blow for PMLN though who was working hard to get into Lyari constituency and was all willing to shake hands with devil if that can secure some traction for them in that particular constituency.

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2013 3:55 #
  33. Na`Maloom(NQM)

    This gangster Arshad Pappu & his men were kidnapped by 50~70 motorcyclists from Defence Karachi and taken back to lyari where they were paraded naked and then gunned down,their bodies were torched. [similarly on 9th april 2008 around 100 MQMized motorcyclists had locked up Tahir Plaza city court and torched around 7 innocent people including a woman alive & wrecked havoc across the city.Ironically neither the victims belonged to rival gang(as was the case in Lyari episode) nor they had any enmity with MQM ]


    Celebrations in Lyari as Pappu falls and Nabeel Gabol jumps ship

    KARACHI:

    Loud bangs rocked Lyari on Sunday evening — and this time, it wasn’t because an entourage of law enforcers had come to town to try to weed out the big fish.

    A fireworks display lit up the sky over the football ground in Chakiwara, where people danced and hugged each other at what they felt was a double treat: the news of the killing of Arshad Pappu, one of the area’s most feared gang leaders, and former MNA Nabeel Gabol’s decision to jump ship from the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) to the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM). All throughout the day, an SMS was circulated among the area’s residents, asking them to join the celebrations outside the football ground.

    Trays bursting with ladoos and gulab jamuns did the rounds as the crowd enthusiastically did the traditional Baloch dance, leva, to ethnic songs blaring in the background. “This is the end of a chapter in Lyari’s history. The cruel man [Pappu] has fallen and Gabol, who we disowned, isn’t connected with the area anymore,” said one of the participants with a toothy grin on his face. “Now it’s time for the people of the area to party!” A boy dancing next to him was clearly optimistic about what the changes meant for the area which has been plagued by chronic violence. “The rule of terror is over now that Pappu is gone. He reaped what he sowed – his fate was the result of the blood he spilled over the years. It’s now time for peace and harmony to reign over Lyari.”

    While talking to The Express Tribune, the leader of the banned Peoples Amn Committee and Pappu’s nemesis, Uzair Baloch, said, “My people love peace and hate criminals. They disliked Pappu and seem to be very happy that he is no longer among us.” He added that Pappu was involved in the kidnapping and killing of his father, Faiz Muhammad alias Mama Faizu. “I’ve seen the way people were celebrating. Lots of them gathered at the spot where Pappu was found dead, carrying pictures of their loved ones who had been bumped off by his group,” said Baloch. “He finally got a taste of the horrid things he’s being doing to people for a long time.” He added that people were also elated at Gabol’s announcement of parting ways with the PPP. “People disliked him and did not want him to come back to this constituency,”

    Zafar Baloch of the PAC also reiterated the fact that the people of Lyari despised Pappu. “The celebrations show that the residents of Lyari had no love for him or his group,” he said, adding that they felt the same way about Gabol.”There was no space left for him in Lyari.”

    The people celebrating on the streets also said that Gabol, who won a seat in the Lyari constituency back in the 2008 elections, had fallen out of favour with the area’s residents long ago. Habib Hasan, the president of the Lyari Resource Centre, pinned all the police operations and atrocities in Lyari on Gabol. “He created rifts among party workers and leadership. He did nothing for his voters so people had already disowned him before he announced that he would join the MQM.”

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/522446/celebrations-in-lyari-as-pappu-falls-and-nabeel-gabol-jumps-ship/

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    It makes no difference if PPP, MQM swap leaders’

    HYDERABAD, March 17: Qomi Awami Tehreek president Ayaz Latif Palejo has said it makes no difference if Nabeel Gabol joins the Muttahida Qaumi Movement or Dr Farooq Sattar switches over to the Pakistan People’s Party because PPP and MQM have the same agenda, corruption, rule and pursue pro-US policies.

    He made the remarks while speaking at a meeting of the Sindh Naujawan Tehreek, according to a QAT statement.

    He alleged that both the parties had usurped rights of the entire nation, particularly the people of Sindh.

    He warned that the two parties had hatched a conspiracy to steal mandate of people by getting a caretaker set up of their choice installed to rig elections.

    He told the meeting that all national institutions including the Pakistan Steel Mill, PIA and Railways were now on the verge of collapse due to corruption by PPP leaders, who failed to provide any relief to the poor people of Sindh over the last five years.

    http://dawn.com/2013/03/18/it-makes-no-difference-if-ppp-mqm-swap-leaders/

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2013 9:48 #
  34. Na`Maloom(NQM)

    Basically Karachi is being currently controlled by criminal gangs,in Liyari no one can enter or stay alive without the permission of Lyari gangsters while in rest of Karachi no one can enter or live safely without MQM's unit & sector gangsters consent.Imran Khan had been barred from entering Karachi few times,similarly Chief Justice Supreme court was also blocked from entering the city by MQMized unit terrorists on 12 may 2007. Similarly Altaf and his MQMized gangsters can't enter Lyari unless Lyari Gang's allows them.Both these gangs are holding Karachi hostage on gunpoint. They're no different from any feudal,jageerdar,wadeera,in fact feudals at most might be holding few hundred people hostage whereas these gangster are holding millions of Karachiites hostage..

    So either other parties create militant wings and go all out against these liyari gangsters and MQM unit & sector gangsters that are already holed up in karachi and start hunting (obviously if they do that then they'd be no different from these criminal gangsters who are already plaguing Karachi). So most rational & prudent solution would be to launch an operation cleanup against these criminal gangster operating in Karachi. Naturally these gangsters & their supporters would whine and weep whenever such operation is launched but there is no other workable solution to liberate Karachi from clutches of such criminal gangs.

    For time being until effective operation isn't launched, whoever is in power will have to negotiate & deal with these liyari gangsters & MQM gangsters operating in Karachi.

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2013 9:49 #
  35. Shirazi

    @Dusky bahi

    I though MQM will give Nabeel Gobol national assembly ticket from some safe seat but you are saying he may be awarded Senate ticket? He may not have much to offer to MQM but at the end he is ex-Minister. How difficult is it for Altaf bahi to give him NA ticket?

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2013 12:25 #
  36. Shirazi

    @Doctor Saab

    There were two major operations in Karachi one by Asif Nawaz and other by Gen. Babar. What was the reult? Did we get rid off gangs in Karachi. I don't think operation is solution. MQM has mandate of Karachi very much like PMLN has of Lahore and Pindi. MQM should be allowed to govern in Karachi like PMLN is allowed in Lahore and Pindi. Will that get rid of gangs - perhaps not, but there will be peace in Karachi. I don't think you can get rid of gangs through military operation either.Karachi's issue is more political than law and order and we need to find political solution. We are reluctant to do operatioins in rural areas like Waziristan and you are saying we should in our commercial hub of 15M people. It's very unrealistic. Remember there were many who supported Lal Masjid operation but when they saw on TV how does operation look like, they started bashing Army for indiscriminate heavy handedness.

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2013 12:35 #
  37. Dusky

    Shirazi bhai, I don't think he will get the NA ticket, my reasoning is, if he can rebel against PPP and aman committee and can survive, what will stop him not to do the same against MQM if time come? In NA number counts matter in senate it's more ceremonial. So it's not what AH wish, it's what politically beneficial for MQM.

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2013 14:27 #
  38. Shirazi

    @Dusky bahi

    You may be right but your rational is very weak. If Altaf bahi doesn't know how to deal with rebel who would? You can't run this empire if you don't have a solution for rebels like Nabeel Gobol.

    BTW, I am still keeping my fingers crossed on Najam Sethi's prediction - an explosion within MQM. Any inside scoop on that?

    :)

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2013 14:46 #
  39. Dusky

    Shirazi bhai that's my opinion, don't know what deal he struck with MQM. It could be a NA ticket in one of those areas where MQM is close second or a senate trip or could be a something else. Will see how does this pan out.
    Regarding explosion, this is in the news since last two years, nothing happen so far and chances are nothing going to happen further either. Rumors are their will be some re-org from top to bottom, which means some of the known MQM faces will go back and new one will come forward. For others this may be an explosion but for MQM that's a routine sort of thing. Interestingly though some of the old comrades already arrive in Karachi, lets see what's cooking.

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2013 15:31 #
  40. Na`Maloom(NQM)

    Unless one isn't in good books of lyari aman gang,chance of him winning seat from lyari is slim. They've neutralized rival gangster Arshad papu by kidnapping him from upmarket defence area that would further consolidate & strengthen their position in next elections. They've already announced that Uzair Baloch or one of his nominee(resident of lyari) will be running for NA seat. Nabil Gabol obviously isn't lyari resident,he too lives in Defence and can't even enter lyari.

    Even organizing public gathering for MQM's election campaign in lyari would be tough for him. During Mush era when MQM was all powerful with their own interior minister,they had tried holding public gatherings there several times but they failed,in one instance their unit guys fled leaving behind govt number cars when lyari gangsters turned up while their public meeting was underway.

    Altaf have no reason to waste his NA seats on Nabil Gabol,if Gabol wants NA seat then he'll have to win one himself for MQM. His neice Nadia Gabol was already MQM's minister for human right in Qaim Ali Shah's cabinet until last week when MQM enacted oppostion drama. At best he maybe able to get a mpa seat or get selected as senator.

    As for operation against criminal gangsters,definitely as you've said such operations are ugly and atrocious but current situation where those being killed don't even know sin as to why they're being killed,had they been some criminal syndicates member,they naturally might have expected retaliation from rival gang,but here dozens of non political random innocent people are being gunned down on daily basis.

    Besides operation,another option could be a clear and strong worded shut-up call like the one given other day(6th march terrorism) by UK's high commissioner & Army to MQM when its NaMaloom unit terrorists went amuck and were screwing up Karachi while defence forces from 30 countries were busy holding naval exercises in Karachi & COAS & CJ both were present in Karachi.

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Mar 2013 18:35 #

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