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  1. paki_politik
    Member

    I have few questions for Imran khan fans.

    1. How much income tax Imran Khan paid for the year 2011?
    2. What is his source of income?
    3. In 2011 how much income he earned in Pakistan?
    4. In 2011 how much income he earned in abroad?

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 9:01 #

  2. siddiqi73
    Member

    @**** Bhai,

    You've stirred a hornet's nest here!! Mein apnee moochain mundwa doon ga if you get a clear answer on your very valid questions.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 9:07 #

  3. sasherwani
    Members

    Hi "new" member ;) Watch Khari Baat from yesterday. Imran said he will show all his assets docs and tax receipts on national tv in the coming days.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 9:17 #

  4. Adonis
    Member

    Why in the "coming" days?

    Does he not know how much income he earned and how much in taxes he paid?

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 9:50 #

  5. scandinavian
    Member

    @Adonis

    Relax, and wait! Don't expect to get immediate attention all the time just like spoiled kids . Nooners will feel the heat with full force when he declares his assets everything with transparency and with documentation - very soon, inshallah!

    @PP
    Btw. I don't know about you but for me the year 2011 has not finished yet and you are talking about the income of this year ;)

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 10:20 #

  6. arif786
    Member

    And also accounts of funds that he has collected over the years in fundraisers, charity galas in the name of Tehreek-e-Insaaf both within and outside Pakistan

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 10:20 #

  7. siddiqi73
    Member

    ^ No sweat pal. Anything since inception till 2010 would suffice for now.

    @Scand,

    So you are trying to imply that he has not honestly declared everything till date?

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 10:34 #

  8. arif786
    Member

    @scandinavian ...why is it an afterthought .. more of a reaction rather then proactively surredering these docs...and then start demanding others and taking the high moral ground

    why are these being prepared..why such delay...these papers should already be with him...this delay suggests either these are being manufactured or forged....morally he should have first declared all his assets then thrown the 1st stone ... anamoly, n a contradiction isnt it... from the moral brigade

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 10:35 #

  9. siddiqi73
    Member

    Lol, just watch how Ilzam Khan would come on live TV and wave his assets on simple A4 size papers and the contents typed on MS Word.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 10:41 #

  10. arif786
    Member

    additionally he needs to explain his position ... as to how he so confidently mentioned HH name in his Oct 30th speech... it is a catch 22 situation...if he was tipped off by ISI ... or he just put 2 n 2 together which is worse ... he considers himself a leader of national stature yet he was doing guesswork and conjecture ...he was not 1005 sure yet he decided to accuse someone...even the 2nd tier anchors were not naming HH because no one was 100 % sure ... ilzamm beghair tehteeq kay agay barha dayna ... is a sign of dishonety from the "revolutionary honest IK"

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 10:57 #

  11. scandinavian
    Member

    ^^ Easy folks, learn to be patient. Nooners have already jumped the gun in several cases. Don't get impatient again just because you are feeling the heat. Don't ask questions of others (PTI). Do also become clean yourself. Let's see what IK does and hopefully your leadership will follow suit - otherwise they will be marginalized - even more than they are now. If they don't react then they will be discarded totally, inshallah!

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:04 #

  12. Adonis
    Member

    The financial year 2011 finished on June 30. Its been five months and still we are told to wait for "coming" days.

    People are still waiting for two years for the case that Ilzam Khan was going to register against MQM. I hope this does not prove to be a similar promise.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:08 #

  13. arif786
    Member

    I think Nooner is a derogatory term which should not be used...i personally dont belong to PML(n)...i have also supported IK on his memeorable Oct 30 public meeting on this forum...have also had soft corner for the much maligned PPP...and I endorse Mian Nawaz Sharifs anti establishment position at present

    The questions raised above are valid questions which IK should answer, if he wants himself to be considered any different from the rest

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:11 #

  14. SufiSoul
    Member

    and I endorse Mian Nawaz Sharifs anti establishment position at present.....

    ///////////////////
    why its so easy to be misguided under so called enemity of any ORGANISATION.....???

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:31 #

  15. salaudin
    Member

    I have few questions for Imran khan fans.

    1. How much income tax Imran Khan paid for the year 2011?
    2. What is his source of income?
    3. In 2011 how much income he earned in Pakistan?
    4. In 2011 how much income he earned in abroad?

    According to my calender, year 2011 is not done yet (as Scandi pointed out earlier as well; we happened to have a similar calander, Scandi...it must be ISI sazish). So Q1,Q3 and Q4 are done and dealt with.
    For question 2, watch the link after 11:30
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ne34oA7r40c#!

    maza aaya, NOONers ??? ;)

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:45 #

  16. Adonis
    Member

    Seems like there is no dearth of morons among ILZAMIs.

    Tax year 2011 ended on June 30, 2011, almost five months ago.

    But I guess one would have to be actually "taleem yafta" instead of merely "zer-i-taleem" to know that !!!!

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:53 #

  17. arif786
    Member

    What if your accounting year ends in June :)))))

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:54 #

  18. siddiqi73
    Member

    @Adonis and Arif,

    I still did not comprehend your reasons to debate with the "Sheep Herd."

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:56 #

  19. arif786
    Member

    should we be saying "mazaya aya now" or would that be too cruel :)))

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:56 #

  20. scandinavian
    Member

    I am no expert in this, but it would be logical for me that the accounting year for 2010 ends in 2010 in the sense that all declarations must be made by end of June for 2010.

    As mentioned I am not an expert. Can a non-nooner please clarify how it should be understood?

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:57 #

  21. Adonis
    Member

    Vist fbr.gov, the official tax collector of Pakistan...

    Gosh, is there no educated person among the Ilzamis....

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 12:04 #

  22. arif786
    Member

    lets not call names .. not nice :)

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 12:06 #

  23. siddiqi73
    Member

    @Scand,

    This is coming from a bona fide NOONER and you can take that to the bank my friend. 2010 financial year started in July of 2010 and ended on 30th June, 2011.

    @Adonis,

    <<<Gosh, is there no educated person among the Ilzamis..<<<

    You still got doubts my brother?

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 12:09 #

  24. Adonis
    Member

    @ siddiqi73

    At least I am not trying to debate with the sheep herd ... I have long ago given up on expecting any logical reasoning from sheep herd.

    Waiting for my car to get serviced and with nothing else to do, was just overwhelmed by the child-like desire to **** some balloons ....

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 12:10 #

  25. arif786
    Member

    ...on a lighter note...chaddo jeee....why cant we keep it civil...why this urge to **** balloons...;)

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 12:12 #

  26. scandinavian
    Member

    ^^

    Cool down nooners. Are we speaking about finance year or are we talking about income year? I suppose these years could be different in terms of dates,

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 12:17 #

  27. arif786
    Member

    for sure accounting and financial year can end in december as well...i dunno about FBR...but for individual companies..it is their directors decision...

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 12:25 #

  28. scandinavian
    Member

    @Arif786

    And now please go the top of the page and see that PP is asking about his personal income :)

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 12:38 #

  29. outspokenloud
    Blocked

    I have few questions for Imran khan fans.

    1. How much income tax Imran Khan paid for the year 2011?
    2. What is his source of income?
    3. In 2011 how much income he earned in Pakistan?
    4. In 2011 how much income he earned in abroad?

    Answers:
    1. for 2011 the income tax will be paid in 2012
    2. lectures, commentary, consultancy & analyst fees ( he is also a Vice-Chancelor of Bredford University
    3. it will be declared in june 2012
    4. there is no declaration required & no tax impsed on income earned abroad by the law in Pakistan
    3

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 17:16 #

  30. Fazooli
    Member

    @ outspokenloud

    nooners can't understand such simple things

    they are here just for "rola bazi" ---- just like their leaders did in faisalabad jalsa --- they have neither the intention to understand anything nor the ability

    poor nooners -- when the "lion leader" N$ does not understand the difference between sales tax and income tax --- what do you expect from his blind followers??

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 17:32 #

  31. raheb
    Member

    ****-politics! what will your measure with your STUPID criterion ?

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 21:37 #

  32. paki_politik
    Member

    Hi guys!

    Declaration of assets is a very serious matter. Accusations counter accusations won't do any good.

    For siddiq73: Have you ever seen income tax return in your life? I'm sure not.

    For outspokenloud: In reply to my first question: how much income tax Imran Khan paid for the year 2011? you say "for 2011 the income tax will be paid in 2012." This is incorrect. You have to discharge you income tax liability, if any, the day you file your income tax return.

    In reply to my 2nd question: what is his source of income? you say lectures, commentary, consultancy & analyst fees, he is also a Vice-Chancelor of Bredford University

    Can you tell me when did IK last time do cricket commentary, delivered lecture? Consultancy and analyst fee for what? You say IK is also a Vice-Chancelor of Bredford University. He is Chancellor not VC. Does he draw any salary from the University of Bradford?

    My 3rd question was: In 2011 how much income he earned in Pakistan? You say it will be declared in june 2012. Again this is incorrect. as I mentioned above, one has to discharge his/her income tax liability, if any, the day he/she files income tax return.

    In reply to my 4th question: In 2011 how much income he earned abroad? you say there is no declaration required & no tax imposed on income earned abroad by the law in Pakistan. Again incorrect. There is 1% Tax on Services rendered/contracts executed outside Pakistan.

    Please come prepared next time!

    Posted 6 months ago on 26 Nov 2011 8:53 #

  33. salaudin
    Member

    @paki_politik
    Following is the link which lists PTI leadership's contact information. You can contact them for the desired information, if you are in a hurry. Most of us are willing to wait besides IK has never been in the government hence his tax returns are not a major issue.

    http://www.insaf.pk/ContactUs/Leadership/tabid/143/Default.aspx

    Again incorrect. There is 1% Tax on Services rendered/contracts executed outside Pakistan.

    It surely needs to be looked into but remittance has no Income Tax in Pakistan.

    Posted 6 months ago on 26 Nov 2011 12:38 #

  34. raheb
    Member

    ............I asked you ****-.......what you want to measure by such questions??????????
    Just forget what tex payed by A.B. or C......... question is competence...........

    At the moment there is at least ONE person who can take Pakistan out from Crises and that is Imran Khan.......come and join him...

    If you Sharif or Bhutoos should be clever enough than Pakistan should not be there where it is today...

    just come and let Imran try to command Pakistan

    Posted 6 months ago on 26 Nov 2011 20:31 #

  35. stingingnettle
    Member

    "I have few questions for Imran khan fans."

    Well splendid questions but very limited in scope; in the spirit of inclusiveness, I suggest you address Altaf Hussain fans, Zaradari-Gillani fans, Sharif brothers' fans, Chaudary Brothers' fans and Fazaul Rehan fans in you question, of course along with Imran Khan fans.

    Perhaps you could also include the following questions in your list;

    1. How much property do you own abroad?

    2. How much money do you have in foreign accounts (especially Swiss)?

    3. Can you tell the difference between sales tax and income tax?

    Sounds fair I think. Well lets have it then.

    Posted 6 months ago on 26 Nov 2011 21:00 #

  36. raheb
    Member

    stingingnettle...............just try to think beyond the term "fans"............for me its not of matter to be a fan or not..........just to see what is good of Pakistan..........

    If a good system is there then nobody can do wrongs, and that's waht Imran's message is..........just come and JOIN Imran for the sake of Pakistan.

    Posted 6 months ago on 26 Nov 2011 21:06 #

  37. stingingnettle
    Member

    Raheb;

    "....just to see what is good of Pakistan.........."

    I couldn't agree more.

    You mustn't have read anything I have written on this forum.

    Never mind.

    The question of financial integrity should be asked of everyone not just of Imran Khan. That is the point I am trying to make. Good institutions are a result of openness and accountability.

    Posted 6 months ago on 26 Nov 2011 21:16 #

  38. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @StingingNettle & Raheb....I am with you guys, you both raised legit points.....

    Yeah, the thread will be more significant if all party leaders are asked to answer these questions, including those inserted later by StingingNettle......

    It should be concern of all Pakistanis and not just fans of a political party, as Raheb correctly pointed out.

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 8:09 #

  39. paki_politik
    Member

    If I accuse someone of acquiring assets through illegal means or concealing them, the person I accuse has every right of questioning how did I acquire my assets or if I'm concealing them.

    IK says he will join opposition if PML-N leadership declares its assets in Pakistan and abroad. This is his one point agenda. Imran Ismail of PTI claimed on a tv channel that "there is no person in Pakistan who is more honest than IK."

    Merely making big claims doesn't prove anyone honest. People will ask questions. You people should be open to questions.

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 11:16 #

  40. sultanalikhan
    Member

    @Paki_politiks......your point is very valid and merits consideration, all leaders without any exception should declare theirs and their family's assets, source of income, nationality, property at home and abroad, tax returns....

    Claims submitted by leaders should be vetted by a highly judicious, unbiased and competent committee....

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 12:28 #

  41. gr8sardar
    Member

    http://www.friendskorner.com/forum/f137/news-list-lotas-have-recently-joined-pti-253316/

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 12:50 #

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