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PTI NA-55 by-election campaign

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  1. hmcheema

  2. Salam

    Is there any understanding/deal between PTI & JI for this seat?

    Posted 4 years ago on 19 Jan 2010 13:21 #
  3. Bilal

    cheema saab wat role will jaazi khan play in the assembly, imran khan should have contested this election, pml n n ji were ready to support him but its become a norm now, he always disapoints be it the general election, long march or by election

    Posted 4 years ago on 19 Jan 2010 14:50 #
  4. change_is_close

    Giving party ticket to Jazi Khan exposes what Imran Khan is capable of doing. Jazi Khan is from the 'same' lot of politicians - pml-n to pml-q to pml-n to pti... more to come!

    I think, more than exposing IK's claim of brining change, it is a realization on part of IK that one needs ppl like Jazi Khan if they want to 'progress' or thrive in this corrupt system.

    Posted 4 years ago on 19 Jan 2010 16:57 #
  5. Salam

    Exactly!

    Posted 4 years ago on 20 Jan 2010 14:57 #
  6. Anonymous

    yar Imran Khan is bringing change first he was part of PMLN then he became part of PMLQ and now he is the part of PTI. dont you think he served PML both times now he is serving PTI...Imran Khan has brought change of two words for Jaazi Khan from "ML" to "TI"....:)

    Posted 4 years ago on 20 Jan 2010 15:48 #
  7. azeem20

    my vote in in NA 55, it is better to vote for Shaikh rashid rather than jazi khan. coz both are same sort of candidates.

    Posted 4 years ago on 20 Jan 2010 19:38 #
  8. Bilal

    na 55 candidate from pml n
    na 123 candidate from pml q
    go PTI!

    Posted 4 years ago on 20 Jan 2010 20:01 #
  9. change_is_close

    @yahya
    yaar, as far as my knowledge goes, after pml-q, he tried to make his way back into pml-n, but although accepted into the party, wasn't given much importance. so he decided to switch sides, as such politicians generally do.

    Posted 4 years ago on 20 Jan 2010 20:02 #
  10. hamesha

    I think PTI campaign is gaining momentum and will peak at the right time, this mud slinging between PLM N and Sheikh Rashid will only benefit ijaz jazi (pti), change my buddy is definitely close.

    Posted 4 years ago on 21 Jan 2010 0:18 #
  11. Salam

    Does anyone know PTI's qualification procedure for allocating party ticket?

    Why PTI gave party ticket to Ejaz Jazi a veteran turncoat?

    Posted 4 years ago on 21 Jan 2010 8:17 #
  12. Beenai

    matter of the fact is that ,everybody knows ,these assemblies are very short lived and wont be going to complete thier tenure ......

    so there is no point in wasting good candidates ...

    Posted 4 years ago on 21 Jan 2010 11:16 #
  13. change_is_close

    @beenai
    what logic, yaar... =D

    at the very least, you agree that jaazi khan is NOT a good candidate. appreciate it!

    Posted 4 years ago on 21 Jan 2010 11:29 #
  14. Anonymous

    I dont understand one thing in Punjab politics people who contest election with the ticket of PML contesting next election by the ticket of PPP or others....

    what is wrong with these politician of Punjab???

    Cant they heard something called loyalty and ideology????

    Posted 4 years ago on 21 Jan 2010 11:41 #
  15. Salam

    yea of course there is loyalty and ideology in punjab known as power & money.

    Posted 4 years ago on 21 Jan 2010 11:47 #
  16. Anonymous

    I dont see such trend in Sindh where there are 2 forces MQM and PPP and I never saw any PPP politician ditched his party and I never saw MQM politician ditched their party but in Punjab even Prime minister has contested elections from the tickets of PML and PPP both and even worse for NA55 election candidate Shaikh Rashid he is known lota until he felt shame this time and instead of contesting from others ticket this time from his own party PML-A

    Posted 4 years ago on 21 Jan 2010 11:52 #
  17. Salam

    Yes, each province has different political history/culture!

    Punjab is more agriculture oriented, Sindh is more vadera oriented, Balochistan is more Sardar oriented and NWFP is Malik oriented.

    Control of power/politics was in the hands of Muslims even before the partition so Muslims of this area were not facing or thinking about the problems of Muslims of UP.

    Anyway..back to NA-55, people will vote for whom they think can win and thus help move their 'applications' forward...

    Posted 4 years ago on 21 Jan 2010 12:03 #
  18. Attack on Sheik Rasheed's office in Khayab-e-syed in rawalpindee few mins ago...two ppl killed so far....Sheik Rasheed got injured....

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 13:51 #
  19. His foot got injured but he has been provided first aid and likely to be released soon.

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 14:04 #
  20. change_is_close

    fired at from the front, but according to his PA, bullets hit his foot... MS DHQ Hospital says that he wasn't hit by a bullet... i wonder what's going on. but i'm sure it will give sheikh rasheed a big boost - sympathy vote, you know!

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 14:05 #
  21. barackosama

    hathi ke daant khanay ke aur dekhay ke aur ..
    Dissembling Punjab politics, they blame PPP, ANP and MQM for chaos in south and while in north their tactics are indistinguishable, PML-N, PML-Q and PTI .. election ke baad hi lar laite .. didn't learn jack from vibrant south.

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 14:06 #
  22. Yes of course. He is lucky to survive this attack plus sympathy vote will work wonders in his favour!

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 14:09 #
  23. Salam

    Look at the timing of this incident just a week before the critical election which means a helping hand for Sheikh Rashid.

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 14:14 #
  24. The question is not what will get from this accident, the question is who is behind this. Apparently the blame will be shifted to PMLN shoulders and they could suffer from this incident.

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 14:19 #
  25. Salam

    of course this is a hit on PML-N and of course the beneficiary is going to be sheeta talli

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 14:21 #
  26. change_is_close

    @salam

    i agree that sheikh will benefit from this, but since pml-n will be the biggest loser, their rival ppp will be the biggest beneficiary... sheikh will just get a seat, and nothing more!

    sheikh was walking... question is, how in the world did the gunmen miss him, the bullets didn't even touch him!

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 14:27 #
  27. Anonymous

    wow Sheeta tali can go that far to paid someone to shot his foot just for bye election for serving members for just 3 years???

    I dont think so that he is that stupid....by looking him in the talk shows I can predict that he is too clever and he would have many other ideas that can be used against PMLN why in the world he would like to go through pain for just one seat????but any way I dont know what is the real story because I dont live in Rawalpindi....

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 14:33 #
  28. Salam

    CiC,

    Right, in bigger perspective PPP is going be the real beneficiary while Sheikh Rashid just winning one seat.

    He remained safe & sound while his guards got hit which seems to be the actual plan :)

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 14:39 #
  29. change_is_close

    @yahya87
    he didn't get shot, and that's the point! he was allegedly walking to a rally, so killing him for a professional shouldn't have been that difficult. i live near that area, and i know how he's been mingling with the common ppl in his election campaign, so i REALLY, REALLY don't think hitting him was big deal.

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 15:00 #
  30. Anonymous

    JJ/Salam

    Wohi khadshaat ke sumundar mein ghotay par ghotay. The fact of the matter is that four people lost their lives.

    Inna Lillahe wa Inna Alehe Rajeoon.

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 15:58 #
  31. aftab

    Sheikha smokes 1000 rupee cigars but somebody should ask him the 4 poor souls who lost they lives did you provide them with bullet proof vests.

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 16:35 #
  32. His chances to win this election in Rawalpinde this time were very less so i dont think so PMLN would do that plus at this time when elections are just a few days ahead why would they do sucha blunder knowing that the fingers will automatically raised towards PMLN if anything happens to Shaik Rasheed as whole world knows about PMLN nd Shaik Rasheed's conflict in past months on conducting these elections in NA 55...

    Posted 4 years ago on 08 Feb 2010 19:48 #
  33. khangee007

    Vote for Dr Kamal...
    The only person with clear background / No corruption no party change. belongs to real middle class, Educated (MBBS)...

    Start the real change, Vote for Dr Kamal

    Posted 4 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 9:03 #
  34. wantinsaf

    No one pointed out what's wrong with Jazi Khan.
    Anyone who is above 30 years has initially been part of PML factions and PPP once at least.So what's wrong with that?
    Is leaving PML N or PML Q or PPP bad?
    It certainly is a good decision and right one.
    We don't have angels in politics,we just have to rely on those who are free of corruption at the moment at least.
    Who has gone through Jazi's heart and came to know that he has joined PTI because he was rejected by PMLN? I reckon he has joined PTI because he has come to know this is the party Pakistan needs.

    Posted 4 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 18:56 #
  35. wantinsaf

    InshahAllah PTI would win election and let shortsighted people know it's just start of new world.
    Imran needs to make sure he goes to constituency once a weak and his party runs a massive and brilliant campaign to make people understand where problem lies and why issues in pakistan don't get solved.
    http://insaf.pk/News/tabid/60/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3537/Imran-Khan-jalsa-at-Mohalla-Raja-Sultan-NA-55.aspx

    Posted 4 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 19:00 #
  36. I heard from many ppl,im not sure if its true or not,that mother of one of the four ppl died,cursed and abused Shaik Rasheed outside his house,Lal Haweli,in Rawalpindee and accused him infront of everyone of this whole incident as according to her Shaik Rasheed himself was behind all these killings infact if you talk to Pindites particularly ppl living in Khayaban-e-Sayed area where it happened,most of them will have the same opinion...this man shouldn't win!!

    Posted 4 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 19:13 #
  37. Anwer Kamal

    Sorry. *RhyMe*
    No news in Pindi about this , It may be from Takht e Lahore.
    From " maharaja Ranjeet Singh" ki aulad.
    Thread about PTI
    IK is a good man but sorry to say that he always act like B team of N$

    Posted 4 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 19:34 #
  38. khangee007

    best candidate in NA 55
    Dr Kamal

    Best candidate in Na 123
    Hafiz Salman Butt

    Vote for jamaat e Islami, Vote for Change

    Posted 4 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 21:22 #
  39. daani

    hafiz salman butt is a ghunda

    Posted 4 years ago on 15 Feb 2010 21:27 #
  40. drgulkhan

  41. gunnerz30

    inshallah pti will win...

    Posted 4 years ago on 16 Feb 2010 15:24 #
  42. msyedh

    we can see very clear coming victory of Mr Rashid in NA 55, let see, how hafiz suleman preform in NA 123, after withdrawal of Nawaz Sharif because 10 years restrictions from saudi arabia, now Hafiz has even greater chance to push Noon league toward riwind.

    Posted 4 years ago on 16 Feb 2010 19:07 #
  43. khangee007

    @daani
    who is not GUNDA in politics....
    Shareef aadmi kee to jagga hee nahin
    So Hafiz Salman Butt is less Ghunda, ghunda gardi ghundon ke saath kerta hey shareefon ke saath nahin

    Posted 4 years ago on 16 Feb 2010 19:12 #
  44. Hi guys,
    latest analysis of NA 55
    kindly follow this link

    http://epaper.dailyjinnah.com/newspaper/2010/February/21/?pg=10

    Read last pargraph , real contest is btw Shakeel Awan and Ijaz Khan .

    As for above questions about Cadidate selection criteria and criticism about Ijaz Khan Jazi , Dear PTI doesn't believe on rumours and false propogandas , We all know no one is perfect in this world and we all are very well aware of our politicians . Jazi have been given ticket after analysing every thing. and shall I ask PMLN and others selection criteria ?? and Mr Sheikh Rasheed Sahib are very well known to all Pakistanis :) a Cigar Friend of Musharaf ... I dont know why our people have very short memories . As for PTI well we are in battle field now and our Captain have taught us never loose hope , nd never be scared of loss . So we are doing our best our case is in Masses if they like it they will vote if not no worries it's their right . insha Allah we will keep on trying and will come back with more force . We have faith on Allah Win or Loss is in Allah's hand we can just try and we are doing it .

    Pray for a peaceful , free nd fare election who ever wins.

    Allah Hafiz

    Posted 4 years ago on 21 Feb 2010 13:54 #
  45. skunk

    @ Furqan, Imran Khan will be giving tickets to the same lot that he and you currently decry as corrupt. I am sure that all these tickets will be given after deep analysis, thought process, rejecting the baseless propaganda and obviously in the supreme national interest. Now that he has establishments blessings, in the next General elections he will be giving tickets to brothers of feuds who were supporting Musharraf if not the feuds themselves, all in the national interest.

    Posted 4 years ago on 21 Feb 2010 19:09 #
  46. RajputPuttar

    Gentleman ,
    I m not from pindi so not in a position about Jazi khan but
    i m from lahore , NA-124 , adjacent to NA-123 where PTI has given ticket to Mian Hamid Miraj.

    Hamid Miraj belongs is son of Mian Meraj ud din (Maja Crown Wala) and nephew of Mian Meraj din (Maja Sikh), both of which are notorioous in baghbanpura / lahore. Hamid miraj , contested last elections on PLM_Q ticket but since he has joined his PTI , he has been dry cleaned.

    I just wonder that how u people consider PTI any different ? IK supports Musharaf but still he is democrat ? He support extra-constituioinal referendum , even thats fine so whats the basis of him being good ? He has apologized ? NS and BB also apologized for misdeeds . So ?

    Posted 4 years ago on 21 Feb 2010 22:17 #
  47. bft1

    Sacha Rajput!!

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 5:07 #
  48. LalBichoo

    Very well-said RP !

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 5:29 #
  49. Salam

    even Jinnah couldn't beat UP in elections and had to switch over UP candidates into AIML so who else can do better?

    we have a tribal/beraderi/community/etc based society where people don't vote based on idea/policy they vote based on tribal/beraderi affiliations-

    imran khan got to learn and reject this colonial authored system-

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 8:37 #
  50. RajputPuttar

    Salam,

    If we speak of these particcular constituencies, there are not bardari based votes.

    I can definately speak of NA-123 , which is adjacent constiuency to my home constitunecy.

    It used to be NA-94 and following is history of this constituency

    85-- Iqbal Ahmad Khan (Law minsiter of Junejo) , not an arian

    88-- BB won general elections

    88-bye elections-- mian umar hayat , won -- Yes he was an arian

    90-- Umar hayat again won on IJI ticket

    93-- Mian abdul wahid , won on PML_N ticket . Noo roots in this area although an arian (He is cousin of begum shafiqa zia and hence mammon of ijaz ul haq)

    97--- Tariq Aziz (Neelam Ghar fame) won on pml-n ticket. A total foriegn

    02--- Javed Hashmi won pml-n ticket. Again a total foriegn

    08--- Javed Hashmi won on pml-n ticket.

    So , u tell me where is bardari /tirbal / community here ?

    U can't insult the sense of masses like this.

    In NA-55

    i m pretty sure that its not a sheikh baradari vote whcih makes Sh.Rasheed win.

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 8:44 #
  51. Salam

    lolzz.. my dear i am talking about national politics, sorry my bad, this thread is only about NA-55

    but i know NA-55 is beradary based!

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 8:45 #
  52. RajputPuttar

    ook , its baradari based thats why the candidate who had been winning since 1985 (sh.rasheed) lost to a total foriegner (Javed Hashmi) so badly.

    In 2002 , bye-elections , sh.rasheed real nephew , lost to Hanif Abbassi.

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 8:50 #
  53. Salam

    i see what you mean, but before i give you more details as a local person, tell me if you used same logic to build conclusion on NA123?

    i'll tell you then the beradari networks of pindi-

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 8:52 #
  54. RajputPuttar

    Sir,

    my point is pretty simple , the politics of urban areas is heavily based on party vote whereas the rural areas are more baradari based. There is a personal vote of candidates in every constituency but in cities , its the party vote which is decisive. Just look at the big cities , start from khi , hyd , multan , lahore, fsd , pindi , peshwar , u will find this trend. if u want , i can give u detailed analysis.

    On the rural side, yes its baradaris and personal votes of candidates which is more dominant and party vote is lesser.

    Again sir , its an analysis not a judgement. Hope u will also not pass a judgement.

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 8:59 #
  55. Salam

    i understand what you are saying, but in my opinion even city politics also rely on various beraderi networks, i don't know about lahore bedaderi networks but here in pindi we have large berader networks and who ever wins support from these networks will win, yes the dynamics are little urbanized but it is not like 100% individual voting, for example here in pindi we have raja beradari network, abbasi network, sati network etc.

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 9:04 #
  56. RajputPuttar

    Sir ,
    i didn't deny this fact , yes there are baradari based vote but in cities its quite less.

    Just to give u example , PML_N is winning cities of punjab since 1993 and in worst possible times (2002) . MQM is winning cities of sindh since 1987 and in worst possible times(1993).

    Sir , democracy is a consistent process, it has been uprooted every 5/10 years and then we blame it . Let the process work and make its roots , educate the people with process and u will get fruits.

    No tree can give fruits untill it has taken roots and every tree has different cycles when it starts fruit. We haven't had a single full cycle of democracy and even then blame it.

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 9:14 #
  57. Salam

    right, the role of various beraderi networks is important and a decisive factor in overall politics of pakistan, at some areas it has more influence and at some areas it has less, but holistically speaking pakistan is a beraderi/tribe based country, mostly all constituencies have been under control of same families, father, son, daughter, relative etc, even MMA did all that-

    these people have history & tradition of swinging and that is how they have been controlling their areas-

    swing from UP to AIML, then swing to PML to ppp to pml-x etc etc, same old people as you already have identified above-

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 9:20 #
  58. irfanali898

    This election will tell us if Imran Khan and Sheikh Rashid still matter in politics.

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 11:12 #
  59. Anonymous

    what this election might end up but one thing is for sure that Rawalpindi is divided between Sheikh Rashid and PMLN and Sheikh Rashid has much better chances as many other supporters have also joined Sheikh Rashid and another reason is that Sheikh Rashid have done work in Rawalpindi and for appreciation of that people will vote for Sheikh Rashid....but on the other hand PTI is also doing heavy campaign and they might get some results of that as well but best strategy for them would be JI withdraw in favor of PTI and this will get PTI won this seat.....but anyway my analysis is based on Kamran Shahid's program yesterday because I dont live in Rawalpindi...

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 12:53 #
  60. Sheikh Rasheed is the only candidate in Pindi who has been selected most of the time here but the work done by him in this city is very less if we look the max chances he had in hand during his tenure,he could have done alot in this long period plus his popularity rate has gone down over the years for some reasons like ppl blame him for allying with Mushy in lal masjid massacre....for changing his loyalties many times to different political parties just to be in powerful position...

    Posted 4 years ago on 22 Feb 2010 19:56 #

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