msohail83
Member
Education: A universal free-for-all education system with one curriculum and making education until matriculation mandatory for all kids.
Agriculture: Giving subsidies to small farmers (<10 Acres) on Electricity and fertilizer and free seeds to increase production, hence generating revenues.
These were the biggest take away from yesterday's rally. I look forward to their policy on Taxation and Judicial system in the upcoming days.
Have your say.
Anwer Kamal
Member
So easy .Jhoot itna hi aasan hota hay
Has Imran presented anything in 2002-7 assembly when he was MNA.
runaway
Member
Wow..This was so easy. Two liner policies for education and agriculture.
aftab arif
Member
@ runaway
It's work in progress and PTI have said that the detailed announcements will be made in the future. Even today i think they was a mention of think tanks doing work on these proposals. I think it's a game of patience and in a few months, just before elections would be the right time for detailed proposals, on all governance issues.
Anwer Kamal
Member
sipahi
Member
@msohail83
"Education: A universal free-for-all education system with one curriculum and making education until matriculation mandatory for all kids."
Do you know this was tried many times, last time when ZAB took over all privately run schools and made a uniform system of education for all school. That meant, private schools were brought down to the level of government school. This led to destruction of education system.
Or maybe, you are too young to know.
sipahi
Member
@PTI/IK friends
Maybe you can help answer my question?
sipahi
Member
@PTI/IK friends
I am still looking for answer to the policy questions.
"Education: A universal free-for-all education system with one curriculum and making education until matriculation mandatory for all kids."
Do you know this was tried many times, last time when ZAB took over all privately run schools and made a uniform system of education for all school. That meant, private schools were brought down to the level of government school. This led to destruction of education system.
I heard that IK will double Education budget. Lofty goal, but how is he going to do it and also balance the budget and reduce dependency on other countries.
sipahi
Member
@PTI friends
"Education: A universal free-for-all education system with one curriculum and making education until matriculation mandatory for all kids. "
Does this means that education in "BeaconHouse" will be free in PTI government?
Pakistani84
Blocked
@sipahi,
Universal education up to is implemented in many different countries with success.
PTI does not believe in nationalization, so your concerns, if they are genuine, should go out of the window.
Standardizing education and making free for all does not mean taking over private schools, but introducing quality and standards in public schools. Same basic curriculum is absolutely appropriate and implementable.
Pakistani84
Blocked
@sipahi,
"Does this means that education in "BeaconHouse" will be free in PTI government?"
No.
ajamal
Member
Universal education policy means having one examination system, improving standards of government schools (free education) to the levels of yesteryears. I did my matric in '70s and in those days, all tops positions were bagged by students from peela (yellow) schools. It is a matter of raising standards, bringing good teachers, providing facilities to govt schools, helping them compete with private schools and for the people not to feel ashamed sending their kids to govt. schools (as was in the case in '70 - mid '80s).
Again it is a case of ending corruption in the education system.
saadkiakaray
Member
sipahi .u r right that policy is made so many times but cuoldnt work but u know what ''no policy can succssed without impliment''.only pti can apply ,u shud know this.
stingingnettle
Member
The scepticism on people towards policies and promises of any party not in power is justified and understandable. In the land of broken promises, a another promise has been made. I imagine the people of Pakistan have reached saturation when it comes to promises especially with those parties who have had the luxury to rule but little change to show for it.
PTI is not in a position as yet to prove whether this policy or promise will grace the dustbin of time or they will succeed in implementing it since they have not been in power yet. Essentially, PTI like other parties, must puts it's cards on the table for all to see. It's for people to decide whether they want to give PTI a chance to show what they can do.
Universal education and national curriculum are not new ideas. The policy is about setting a minimum standard for education, ie it will be unlawful for a child of school going age to be anywhere but in school. I hope you all can agree in principle with this common sense idea. The quality of education provided by state schools will need to be raised as opposed to insisting that private schools reduce themselves to the lower common denominator of education. Significant invest in our school system needs to be made if you want to demonstrate that we value the life and eduction of our children. Improvement in school buildings, retraining teacher and weeding out those who simply cannot teach.
People with money will always be either able to buy an education or a grade. The point I am trying to make is that if you put a bright student from a private school in a Government school they will never be able to achieve the grade they would in his/her private school. People who have money will provide additional private tuition to their children so that they can achieve a value-added grade. The fundamental principle of education should be that children who attend Government schools should have a good chance of getting the best grades. We need to break the link between state education and failure if we are to create a just society.
My advice to people is take every promise with a pinch of salt. This applies to PTI's promises too. Education reform is the mother of all reforms, it will require some very self-less thinking and application from those who rule us.
Demand better education for your children, don't trust your politicians to serve quality education on a platter to you. Vote for those in the next election who are most likely to bring about change in the education system of our country. I am happy to give PTI a chance but if they fail to deliver, then I will be equally unforgiving.
sipahi
Member
@Pakistani84
But if the education in public schools will be same as in "Beaconhouse", who will be stupid enough to pay big fees to Beaconhouse.
sipahi
Member
@Pakistani84
"Universal education up to is implemented in many different countries with success."
Can you please list those successes, this will help me better understand your point of view.
Pakistani84
Blocked
Finland. Start with it.
Pakistani84
Blocked
@sipahi,
"But if the education in public schools will be same as in "Beaconhouse", who will be stupid enough to pay big fees to Beaconhouse."
You have a habit of simplifying things. Same set of education standards does not mean every facility to be same. A private school may offer additional perks and privileges to students to attract wealthy clients. Happens in many countries.
But the above basically is not PTI's concern.
bsobaid
Member
Sohail,
How can you buy into this and then call it a policy?
Comeon sohail, i know you can do better than this.
sipahi
Member
@Pakistani84
"You have a habit of simplifying things. Same set of education standards does not mean every facility to be same. A private school may offer additional perks and privileges to students to attract wealthy clients. Happens in many countries."
Like majority of Pakistanis, I am a simple person. I like to keep my life simple, so that I do not have to run after money.
So you are saying that education standard will be same as Beaconhouse, it is just that the government school might be housed in a mud house with no chairs/tables, no computers, no internet, no cafeteria, no play area, etc.
Anwer Kamal
Member
His policy
Whose sons and daughter is being taught by Jews, how can he care for our children .
Not more than a dirty cheater .
msohail83
Looks like you don't understand the difference between a policy and a "slogan invented for wall-chalking".
I think you hold an MBBF degree...MBBF=Matric Baar Baar Fail.
zaln
Member
@mshohail
kia aap is baray main batana pasand karain gay :)
Gee, PTI has lot to learn about how this country is run.
By no means this is a policy but some guideline they like to achieve.
Pakistani84
Blocked
@sipahi,
This was a nonsense answer. You deliterabely want not to learn - I don't why?
asif65
Member
@stingingnettle
If you allow I would like to pick 2 points of your post which are worth to be discussed:
The policy is about setting a minimum standard for education, ie it will be unlawful for a child of school going age to be anywhere but in school.
This is a good point but at the beginning unrealistic to implement. To realize this first it should be achieved how the standard of the Govt schools can improved. We have to find the middle point of high standard and low standard.
The fundamental principle of education should be that children who attend Government schools should have a good chance of getting the best grades. We need to break the link between state education and failure if we are to create a just society.
Grades showed not be preference but the creativity of the children.
I would like to introduce here the German education system.
The responsibility for the German education system lies primarily with the states (Länder) while the federal government plays only a minor role. Optional Kindergarten (nursery school) education is provided for all children between three and six years of age, after which school attendance is compulsory, in most cases for 11 to 12 years. The system varies throughout Germany because each state (Land) decides its own educational policies. Most children, however, first attend Grundschule from the age of six to ten or 12.
German secondary education includes five types of school. The Gymnasium is designed to prepare pupils for university education and finishes with the final examination Abitur, after grade 12 or 13. The Realschule has a broader range of emphasis for intermediate pupils and finishes with the final examination Mittlere Reife, after grade 10; the Hauptschule prepares pupils for vocational education and finishes with the final examination Hauptschulabschluss, after grade 9 or 10 and the Realschulabschluss after grade 10. Other than this, there is the Gesamtschule, which combines the approaches. There are also Förderschulen/Sonderschulen for the childern with handicap.
In order to enter university, students are, as a rule, required to have passed the Abitur examination
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