The title says it all. There are numerous threads on Iran, irani politics etc. Care to look into pakistan and pakistani politics? Why are you all so obsessed with Iran when your own country is on fire? Some of the people just start a thread to feel "good" that they had so many hits on their thread. Please grow up and stay on the same thread to make it easy for others to comment.
Also why have we suddenly diverted our attention from Drones, swat, talibaan and corrupt politicians to Iran? Is this a deliberate attempt to divert our attention or we are too blind to see our house on fire?
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Put your house in order then poking your pea brains into Irani Politics!
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Heather_Ali
MemberPosted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 11:20 # -
msohail83
Memberlolz Heather_Ali.
Another 'color' revolution is being thurst upon in Iran by guess who?? Expanionist agenda hasn't seemed to have stopped. Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and now Iran. What's next??
Nothing wrong with discussing imperialism. It all goes hand in hand. I agree however that we shouldn't get carried away and foget about the miseries of our own people in SWAT and FATA areas.
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 11:31 # -
Both of the opinions expressed above make sense.
There are three phases to establish the preferences.
1. Primary
2. Secondary
3. Advanced
Pakistan and Pakistanis have not, yet fixed the primary problems and not united upon the solution of the crises.
Unfortunately, still no light at the end of the tunnel is visible. The scenario is getting cloudy day by day to create more confusion.
It is time to forget criticizing Yahood-o-Hanood-o-Nasara and devote the time and energy to reach a consensus about a reasonable, realistic and practicable solution of Pakistan's problems.Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 12:16 # -
NNL
memberJS
your beloved Yahood-o-Hanood-o-Nasara ARE THE PROBLEM the sooner you realize that the faster we can get to the solutions.Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 13:58 # -
Leadership crisis is the real cause of all what has suddenly bloomed since Musharraf left leaving us to face the the aftermath of his blunders. Failure of the Pakistani political system is snowballing. It is already clear that last year’s elections and the next ones too will do little to improve the situation. Take the political parties in Sindh for example. When Pakistan is facing a problem in its northwest that is also being exploited by outside players to revive Pashtun nationalism independent of Pakistani identity, we have elements in Sindh pushing for an ethnic confrontation inside the country. The way Karachi has been paralyzed for the third time since November indicates that this effort is organized and predetermined and qualifies on par for the same treatment meted out to the miscreants in the North.
The choice of words by the Sindh government and by some political parties against a few Pakistani families moving in from Swat is in bad taste to say the least. It is stunning to see ethnic-based political parties creating a precedent for restricting the movement of Pakistanis within their homeland.
If anyone needs evidence of the irreversible failure of our political system, and the twisted democracy spawned by it, this is it. We have groups that can hardly be described as political parties in any fit for any democracy that are generating ethnic friction and hate as a legitimate tool of politics, at a time when Pakistan faces a region-wide destabilization emanating from Afghanistan. Our political system considers ethnic-based parties legitimate and almost all of our parties, including the so-called ‘progressive’ ones, have withdrawn into ethnic shells. Even more disturbing is how our ally, the United States, has cultivated direct, one-to-one contact with all the major and small ethnic-based Pakistani parties.
The Pakistani nation must be given credit here because a majority of Pakistanis have never leaned toward such divisions. If anything, the new generation of Pakistanis – the fifth and sixth generation – is more integrated than their fathers and grandfathers at any time in our modern history. But in the absence of any attractive alternative, the agenda of the hate-mongers will succeed. To overcome our hardships, we have to address this very agenda first of all.
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 14:16 # -
NNL
memberwhy the **** do people keep removing the attention from the source of all problems PUNJAB>
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 14:25 # -
@NNL
What sorts of issues do you have with Punjab?Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 14:29 # -
NNL
memberArey yaar issues people of Punjab se nahin hain.
The issue that the people who have the most share in GOvt Army and Bureaucracy have simply removed light from themselves and have focused it elsewhere. They are in the thick of it and are responsible for the colossal mistakes yet managed to crucify every other ethnic race in the country.
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 14:33 # -
NNL
memberI see the same in MQM and in Sindhi leadership.
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 14:34 # -
Potohari
BlockedWhen Pakistan was created we are supposed to have an independent goverment, but we replaced none Muslims upper class, which was culturally one with us and understood our problems and nature, with aliens from Lakhnow with funny language. They not only wrecked our culture and daily habits but tok control of bureacracy, military etc. Look at autocratic rulers Zia was immigrnt, so was yahya, so was mushy. I have no beef with them, but urdu speakings are taking us for granted.
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 14:37 # -
NNL
memberPoto read my last 2 post and then tell me that if i m being a racist.
My issue isnt with the normal people of Punjab its the people they choose year after year to rule them.
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 14:39 # -
@NNL
As far as 'tackling the majority'-Punjabi majority remains a fact. The best option is to 'lobby for equal representation (No. of seats) for all provinces in the national assembly, regardless of who holds majority population....think about it.Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 14:50 # -
NNL
memberno yaar they can have whatever majority they want the point is that who ever holds the majority should share the blame for all the **** ups cos they werent able to stop it thus being implicit in it by doing nothing. They took part in the looting and pillaging of the country so no matter what issues you blame on anyone as the root cause of everything you have to admit the people complicit in the act. You cant have purging if you dont regulate these complicit people.
You is used in collective sense in this post.
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 16:11 # -
When you will have equal provincial representation in the national assembly, than the distribution of resourses can be released according to the requirements and needs of the provinces-and will help address much of 'only talked about' grievences
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 16:35 # -
We have lots of learn from what is happening in our backyard. Read my post on "jindallah" and you will see.
Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 16:45 # -
@bsobaid
'Putting our house in order' is the issue here and not 'Jindallah'.Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 18:16 # -
Please read the entire post, its not just about jindallah.
Iranian issue is an important one for us and we can learn a lot from it.Posted 2 years ago on 21 Jun 2009 21:37 # -
I don't know why we always move away from the thread topic... and why do we have to bring punjab,punjabi and MQM in every thread..
This topic is about, leaving our home which is already on fire and trying to do "Nazzara" of other's house fire and discussing the potential end, threat rather then saving our own house...Posted 2 years ago on 22 Jun 2009 0:48 # -
Heather_Ali
Member@bsobaid
'Putting our house in order' is the issue here and not 'Jindallah'.Posted 2 years ago on 22 Jun 2009 1:31 # -
Another option to the one previously stated may be, the division of Punjab into three provinces:
Pakistan's 170 million people are divided into six main ethnic groups; Punjabi (44.7 percent), Pashtun (15.4 percent), Sindhi (14.1 percent), Siraiki (8.4 percent), Muhajirs (7.6 percent), and Balochi (3.6 percent). Various nationalist movements are active among Pakistan's different ethnic groups in these provinces. Some of these groups are entangled in mutual enmity and all of them have a different relationship with the dominant Punjab Province. Here Punjab dominates all in population and dividing Punjab may bring Sindh and Pashtunistan at par with Punjab at least.
Posted 2 years ago on 22 Jun 2009 14:24 #
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