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alirazaster
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as i type this post, a video is on air on samaa tv
it shows a guy asking rangers for mercy, but rangers shot a couple of fires at him.... killing him in day light

huh! what the hell is happening!

Posted 11 months ago on 08 Jun 2011 21:30 #
bsobaid
Member

very sad.
Where?

Posted 11 months ago on 08 Jun 2011 22:00 #
pirbodla
Member

This is very sad incidence. Whatever was the situation, it was not the way to deal with a captured person. The people involved in this cold blood murder must be given the maximum punishment. This lawlessness needs urgent and strenuous action.
These dogs thriving on public expense are supposed to protect the citizens and not to eliminate them. This has become a routine for our sentinel forces to take law in their hands.

Posted 11 months ago on 08 Jun 2011 22:40 #
syedhussain
Member

The person was a boy who studies in Matric, age 17 years. Rangers killed him near boat basin clifton karachi. The boy was passing by the rangers and must have been something happened between them. Rangers opened fire on him , killed him on the spot. Safraz Shah was the brother of a TV Channel reporter.

Posted 11 months ago on 08 Jun 2011 22:54 #
insaftak
Member

The long list of Police, Rangers and Pak Fauj brutalities continue. I remember starting this thread a while back where pak fauj soldiers killed bunch of kids.

http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/pak-army-killing-suspected-taliban-children-video

Posted 11 months ago on 08 Jun 2011 23:05 #
utopia
Member

"Safraz Shah"

Atleast killing of a shah might open someones' brain cells.If it doesnt then nothing will !

ps. Now imagine thousands if not millions of videos that could be made available but are not made available;what they would reveal?

ps1.Same reproters chose to either not sneak into that area or keep silent even after knowing it.But then sometimes their own videos would appear just like that poor guy.

Posted 11 months ago on 08 Jun 2011 23:33 #
banjarbayabaan
Members

Here is the video link:

جب بارہ مئی کو مسلح دہشتگرد چیف جسٹس کے قافلے پر گولیاں چلا رہے تھے اور آج توی پر بھی گولیوں کی بارش ہو رہی تھی تو یہی رینجرز اور پولیس خاموش کھرے تماشا دیکھ رہے تھے اور پچاس سے زاید لوگ اپنی جان سے ہاتھ دھو بیٹھے. وڈیو میں صاف نظر آ رہا تھا کہ وہ لڑکا اگر ڈاکو، چور بھی ہوتا تو ان کے پاس گھیرے میں تھا. اس کو گرفتار کرنے کی بجاے یوں گولی کا نشانہ بنانے والوں کو سزا دی جانی چاہئے.

Posted 11 months ago on 08 Jun 2011 23:40 #
zoabkhan
Member

no one is held accountable with this gov't. And nothing is about to change because unfortunately they have are in bed with the army.

A long march is needed to Islamabad. All the unemployed people should just go and sit their until Gilani is impeached and Zardari agrees to get the f out of Pakistan.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 1:11 #
khanseena1
Member

What does this killing have to do with Zardari or gillani?

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 2:22 #
runaway
Member

This is the only solution to bring Karachi back under state’s control. Rangers should be given unlimited authority of shoot and kill on the spot all of the target killers, bhuta khors and dacoits etc regadless of their political affiliations and influence. Currently, they are NOT allowed to react by Rehman Malik even if they are fired upon by anyone in Karachi. That is why they are openly beaten and slapped by the armed political budmashs and ghundaz of different parties in Karachi and they could do nothing.

Since i am under permanent moderation..I am responding to the sick comments on the main page.

@sajjadbutt & Exposed

Shameless !!!!

How would you feel if this were your brother ?

Would you still prescribe this option to fix Karachi?

Do you have any proof of Rangers getting beat up or just blowing hot air from back end? Are you talking about PNS Mehran? When 4 terrorists kicked **** of over 2000 military and rangers

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 2:33 #
banjarbayabaan
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sajjadbutt said:
@ ExPosed! Rangers and Police were unarmed and confined to their baricks by Sindh Govt Advisor on Interior, Waseem Akhtar on 12-May and Karachi was totally handed over to the armed terrorists of MQM to sabotage CJ’s reception and rally. Babar Ghauri was Shipping Minister then and he issued empty containers from the seaport for road blocking all over Karachi. Only MQM was responsible for killing of 50 people on 12-May as they accepted Gen. Musharaf’s task of sabotaging CJ’s visit to KHI and we all know well about it. Waseem Akhtar was commanding and monitoring all that operation as head of terrorists in jeans and T-shirt.

@runaway

آپ کی اطلاح کے لئے عرض ہے کہ میں نے سجاد صاحب کے اس کمنٹ سے اتفاق کیا تھا. لگتا ہے آپ کو کوئی غلط فہمی ہو گئی. میں نے اوپر سجاد صاحب کو وہ کنت لگا دیا ہے . جو کمنٹ آپ نے لگایا ہے میرا اس سے کوئی تعلق نہیں ہے.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 2:50 #
runaway
Member

@Exposed

Thanks for clarification.. but if you look on main page. You "agreement" appears right below the offending remarks.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 2:55 #
Rizwan Qaimkhani
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Aik din kay liyae in bhandoon ka khana peena band karo tub samajh main aay ga, yay kiray ka tatoo, riyasati dahshat gard wardi pehan kar khuda samajhtain hain. We Karachiities have had enough, let stop Pakistan's revenue than they will get it. Haram ki kamiee kha kha kar in ki toondain nikal aayen hain. Yeh napak fauj kay haramzaday! If Pakistan breaks again, consider them responsible. Neither China or Russia can stop from breaking this damnned country only God can but seems like he is on the other side.
This what they did to us in 90s but no one believed it, look it from your own eyes senseless idiots.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 3:00 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

This is what happened in Quetta too. Killing of its own citizen.. Thats what these spineless rangers and soldiers are good at…

Nothing will happen and these rangers will be suspended for brief period or perhaps few months of being imprisoned. When you have an eunuch as your chief of army then you could imagine what will happen to the rest of the lot.

It’s time that these **** are also killed by the mob just like the dacoits killed and in some cases burned in karachi.

SHAME ON PASHA, KIYANI ,GILANI …. ALLAH KI MAAR HOE TUM PUR AUR ALLAH TUM KO AIK AZEEYAT NAAK MOUT (DEATH) DAY.. INSHALLAH

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 4:40 #
zoabkhan
Member

Khanseena this has to do with Gilani, Zardari because of the great examples they have set with accountability. Everyone in Pakistan knows right now kill or steal, do anything you want. The corrupt lot will protect you. If necessary they will pardon you.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 5:10 #
banjarbayabaan
Members

Here is another video of the same incident.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 5:56 #
scindian
Member

If boy had a weapon our forces would never touch this boy.

This is an of extremism !!!

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 6:00 #
semirza
Moderator

I don’t see any pistol as reported by this newspaper:

Five men from the Ghazi wing of the Rangers are said to be involved in the incident, of whom two have been arrested.
Video footage of the incident showed the Rangers killing the man, Sarfaraz Shah, who had a pistol in his hand, after beating him up.
Before being shot, Shah had tried to grab the security forces’ weapons.
Initially, the police and Rangers had claimed that they were informed that a dacoit had held a family hostage in Benazir Bhutto Park. The security personnel claimed that they went inside the park and asked the man to surrender. When he refused to do so, the Rangers shot at him in retaliation. Shah was injured and died after reaching Jinnah Hospital, security personnel said.
Shah was the brother of Salik Shah, a reporter of Samaa TV. The family of the deceased along with journalists held a protest at the chief minister’s house in Karachi. The chief minister has taken notice of the incident.
The Sindh information minister, Sharjeel Memon has said that no leniency will be shown to the culprits.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/185274/unarmed-youth-shot-dead-by-rangers-at-point-blank/

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 6:25 #
spruce
Member

is this islam republic of pakistan security forces who learned to deal with innocense people like israil doing with phalistine...

God save pakistan from such crual forces who are provoking people to put guns in thier hands..

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 6:32 #
LifeH2O
Member

Is there any video without interview voice? What those rangers were saying while killing him?

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 7:00 #
LifeH2O
Member

Here is the complete actual footage with voices

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 7:20 #
LifeH2O
Member

See he did not die at the spot, he remained there injured for a long time and died at last. He was shouting to take him to hospital

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 7:22 #
banjarbayabaan
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خروٹ آباد والا حادثہ اور یہ والا حادثہ ان دونون میں ویڈیو کافی قریب سے بنی لگتی ہیں. اس نوجوان کو قتل کرنے سے پہلے جو سویلین تھا اس کے بارے میں بھی پتا کرنا ضروری ہے کہ وہ کون تھا .
ٹکنالوجی کے استعمال کا اتنا فائدہ تو ہوا کہ اب لوگ ایسے واقعات کی ویڈیو بنا کر میڈیا میں کسی نہ کسی طرح پہنچا دیتے ہیں.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 7:23 #
LifeH2O
Member

When sucide bombing was started, everyone was afraid and very suspected about any person with beard. Once my friend went into a bank, with beard and shalwar qamees, everyone including the guard was looking at him.
And suddenly he stood up and pointed his gun at him. My friend got afraid, and came out saying guard that 'i am an educated person'.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 7:30 #
toamin
member

بہت دکھ اور افسوس ہوا، اتنی سفاکی و بیدردی سے قتل کرتے ہیں، بےغیرت بزدل قاتل

یہ فوجی نہیں کرائے کے قاتل ہیں، فوجی تو اپنی سرحدوں کی رکھوالی کرتے ہوے جان کی بازی لگا دیتے ہیں جبکہ یہ سرحدوں پر سو رہے ہوتے ہیں اور خلاف ورزی پر نظر ثانی کی دھمکی دیتے ہیں

لیکن اپنے ملک کے شہری ہوں تو قتل کرنے میں دیر نہیں لگاتے

لگتا ہے کہ فوج کی شامت آ رہی ہے، اب انشاللہ یا یہ تو درست ہو جائیں گے یا پھر عوام ان کو نہیں چھوڑیں گے

بہت ہو گیا ہندستان کی دھمکی دے دے کر عوام کو کھا گئے ہیں

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 8:11 #
zoabkhan
Member

How long did this kid stay on the ground? very very sad.
They aren't brave naujawan rangers. They should be held accountable for what they did and should be shot in their knee caps and left on the ground for a good 30 minutes.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 8:40 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

Something is very seriously noteworthy in this incident! After the tragic incident of Karotabad, another incident of illegal killing by security forces has been recorded. The thing which has to be taken into a serious account is the physiological health of the soldiers of security forces. Are they not losing physiological balance due to unbearable tensions on their heads?

Similar behavior was recored of the American soldiers coming back to America from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 8:53 #
sara m.khan
Member

RANGER barbarian attacked on the innocent boy: as I written several time that our agencies only raised their weapons to their own country men .they coward and incompetent can’t saved our country to the enemies like INDIA,USA,RUSSIAN and ISRAEL but they open fired unarmed boy who beseech them that I am innocent but these infidel can’t hear his voice as Karachi citizen I request to our corrupted government officials that they sacked out these beast from the Karachi premises as soon as they could .the guy who fired that boy look at his face he looking like infidel because their family back ground was nothing neither they had get education and nor they get religion education because if he had one of these education he do not done this barbarian act .

We spend 70 corer rupees per year for them WHY?????? because they killed us in that way without having any evidence only 1 corer spend for their ICE to drink cold water after this act we should be give them GUTTAR KA PANI to pulled out from LYARI CREEK. We don’t need any rangers guy here to our city we request to our Governor to send them back to the JUNGLE because they done good job from their with their FRATERNITY.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 11:39 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

sara m.khan

All our institutions are still colonial style. The British established them to rule over the local people with mercilessness. These agencies don't regard us as the people of their own but the slaves of their British masters. They are simply the mental slaves of the British Raj despite the passage of 63 years time after independence.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 11:46 #
Rizwan Qaimkhani
Member

I don't care what his ethnicity was; he was still human and had every right to be tried in court if he was accountable for any misdeed. For there 'bravery' at Mehran base , they received 11% increase in their funding; probably with this incident, as I am sure they will come out with an ISPR-concocted story, will receive another 11%. Great performance, I'd say!

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 12:30 #
Rizwan Qaimkhani
Member

@HF
We inherited this incompetent military since Pakistan's inception. This institution was corrupt from day one as their sole purpose was to keep Kashmir alive and engulf the majority budget so we would never be able to progress. Fast forward 60+ years; mission accomplished.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 12:33 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

RQ

All the British Raj institutions are burdensome on the country. More than 99 percent army, civil service and judiciary is absolutely useless. The incidents of Abbotabad and PNS Mehran have vividly exposed the efficiency levels of our security forces. They are capable of crushing their own people only.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 13:05 #
Rizwan Qaimkhani
Member

@HF
You are truly right, civil services alone is a very inefficient institution takes away a big chunk of our budget; 65+% along with military with 25+% and now with an increase of 11%. There is a need to reign these white elephants. They are filled with incompetent and corrupt people. As for the judiciary, it is not completely blind, it has still an eye for corruption and self interest; someone has to throw a stone to make it completely blind. Then and only then justice will be served without biases.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 13:13 #
Hussain Farooqui
Member

RQ Bhai,

Judiciary is no different. Justice is sold in the so called courts of law. You can see hundreds of serial killers moving comfortable in the corridors of the court buildings. What they simply have to do is to pay enormous sums of money to judges through their agents called advocates. Justice is for sale in the courts of law. The credibility of our CJ was vividly exposed in Raymond Davis's case.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 13:45 #
aftab arif
Member

These animals should get a public hanging, so that any other law enforcer or security person gets the message loud and clear, that this kind of state terrorism will not be accepted.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 16:53 #
aftab arif
Member

I wish this could be the spark for our country to awake and take all status quo forces too task.

This is such a distressing video, more so because the so called protectors of our society are the criminals too.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 17:02 #
aftab arif
Member

Youth shot dead by rangers was involved in crime: Malik

The Interior Minister added that both sides of the incident would be taken into consideration during the investigation because the murdered youth was involved in criminal activities and was part of a gang of eight criminals.

He told the media that the youth tried to snatch the belongings of a female and the public along with the guard of the park caught him and handed him over to the Rangers.

http://www.geo.tv/6-9-2011/82282.htm

It's because of people like RM that this country cannot get a grip on the law and order situation, head of interior ministry who is a suspected criminal, so will it be fair to say that any security personnel should pick up a gun and blow him away because he is a suspected criminal, or should he be allowed to defend himself in the SC like he has been doing. What an irrelevant and nonsensical statement from this retard.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 17:13 #
alirazaster
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koi in dogs k galay mein rasi baandhay.....
ye beqaaboo ho gaye hain.... jis thaali mein khaatay hain, ushi mein ched kertay hain...

awaam in kutton ko apna khoon paseena ki kamayee say khila khila k mota ker rahi hai.... or ye us he bechari awam k jaan k dushman hain.... asal dehshatgardon, suicide bombers, extremists, or amreeki foj ko tou maarnay k tappar nahin hain is mein..... ek bechari awam pe he in ka bus chalta hai....

this video reminded me of the 92 operation!

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 17:54 #
utopia
Member

"asal dehshatgardon"

In their books/training manual he was an 'asal dehshatgard'. Convince them otherwise! They wont get convinced! I have been trying to do that to ppl with same mentality....even on this forum...:)

ps.Atleast a 'shah' irked some people to get in line.A good sign!

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 17:59 #
alirazaster
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how can you? when you cant identify the heroes and villains openly

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 18:03 #
runaway
Member

Bhaiyoo...khamosh..

Humaray Sipah Salar..Janab General Kiyani nae kaha hae..k Afwaj e Pakistan k mominon aur awam k darmiyan muhabbat kam karnay ke sazish ke jari hae.

Awam ko hukum dia hae k wo APNI fauj k jawanon aur gernailon sae muhabbat ka suboot daen na k on pae ongliyan uthaen.

Mazeed unho nae irshad farmaya hae k Drone hamlay bardasht nahi karengay.... oh bhai koi humaray sipah salar ko pichay haftay k akhbar ke headlines he parh k suna dae.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 18:34 #
zoabkhan
Member

These officers should be hanged in public.

These officers have no problem killing the people they are supposed to protect. But if this is an Amrikan citizen or a gora chamri they would be on their knees.

Did Rehman Malik catch the pictures of this guy snatching the purse on his blackberry. What a freakin *******. If this person is leading anything it is doomed to fail.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 19:20 #
zoabkhan
Member

Is Javed Hashmi's speech available somewhere?
Hamid Mir was talking about it on his show.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 19:25 #
semirza
Moderator

If he was mugging people then why it is not covered/shown in that movie clip?
Only what has been covered is pleas from the victim asking for mercy, to spare his life but alas, murderers won't listen to him!
Rehman Malik as a root cause of all this trouble should be removed from the scene. Isn't he the axis of evil within Pakistan?

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 19:27 #
alirazaster
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a punishment like this should be given to the culprits
http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/15/eye-for-eye-sentence-in-iran.html

all the rangers who were part of it should be shot like that in public....

and same should happen to those jutts who through acid on women, rape etc.... they should be hanged in public....

giving them a very torturous punishment before the public will set good example.... and public's trust in judiciary and law enforcement agencies will be revived

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 19:40 #
aftab arif
Member

Forget that my friend, just listening to Talat and rangers are doing in-house inquiry. So you can imagine what kind of hogwash and fabricated lies that will be written.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 19:43 #
bsobaid
Member

We all have become Nafsiyaati.

Any person you see on the street does'nt appear to be a normal person. We all have become nafsiyaati mareez. Too much violence and feeling of helplessness makes one a nafsiyaati for sure.

These rangers murdered should be dealt with according to law ASAP!! but hold on..CJ is busy hearing Atiqa Odho 2 bottles of liquor case.

I dont understand why:

1) They shot the guy
2) They let him bleed to death
3) They let the other guy record the event

As I said, our awam and specially security forces have become nafsiyaati.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 19:47 #
alirazaster
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this video did not surprise me much.... and to be honest, it wasnt really moving

it was just a grim reminder of the sialkot incident....
sialkot mein 2 bhaiyon ko jo intehai wehshiyana tareeqay say maara gaya thaa.... us mein chotay bachay bhi involved thay... or jo baray loge dand or pathar eentein maar rahay thay.... wo sub chotay bachon ki mojoodgi mein ker rahay thay......
is baat ko samajhna chahiye k wo bachay kitni aasaani say wo manazir apni aankhon k saamnay na sirf hotay huway dekh rahay thay, balkay us barbariyat ka hissa bhi thay!

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 19:56 #
bsobaid
Member

Bayghairat Rehman Malik ko Karachi kay samandar mein phaink doo.

This event is no different than Kahrootabad event and Sialkot event. If no one channelized awami nafsiaati beemari and desperation I fear for a Rawanda style blood bath.

I did'nt watch the video but read somewhere that the victim was trying to snatch Rangers gun. IF this is true then Rangers have to follow the procedure and they shot him at his leg. what I still dont understand is why they did not take him to the hospital and let the other guy video tape it.

They might not have taken him to hospital to save themselves from inquiry and they could have later called this whole event as police encounter, however why they still allowed video taping it? May be video maker was their man but later on somehow the tape got released.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 19:57 #
runaway
Member

Rehman Malik is not the issue here. He is corrupt and his only intention is save Zardari and himself for as long as he can. He will choo mantar from Pakistan on the last day of this govt. And we will never hear his name again.

However, the military and rangers will stay here.

He doesn't want and probably does not have the capacity to take on the mighty Military and Rangers.
So he is being a being a good butt man for DG Rangers.

His tenure as Interior Minister is full of incidents..where he should have resigned a long time ago.

Posted 11 months ago on 09 Jun 2011 20:10 #

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